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The TX shooting is 100% Obama's fault
Posted by: he failed us all ()
Date: November 07, 2017 12:12PM

In 2103, he signed a Presidential Memorandum entitled "Improving Availability of Relevant Executive Branch Records to the National Instant Criminal Background Check System."

Clearly the Air Force under his watch did not abide by his guidance. How many other federal agencies have been derelict in their duties to add relevant records to NICS?

https://obamawhitehouse.archives.gov/the-press-office/2013/01/16/presidential-memorandum-improving-availability-relevant-executive-branch

President Obama, Eric Holder, and Loretta failed the good people of that church.

President Trump needs to fix this mess fast.

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Re: The TX shooting is 100% Obama's fault
Posted by: 4VDEE ()
Date: November 07, 2017 12:20PM

Wow. Amazingly stupid post, even by FFXU standards.

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Re: The TX shooting is 100% Obama's fault
Posted by: he failed us all ()
Date: November 07, 2017 12:25PM

4VDEE Wrote:
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> Wow. Amazingly stupid post, even by FFXU
> standards.

Wrong, asswipe. Look at the facts. Obama ordered all federal agencies to put all relevant records into NICS. They didn't and he didn't do shit. Trust me, when the facts come out, Devin Kelley will not be the only missing record. He begged for more gun control laws and he couldn't even manage to enforce the ones on the books.

Look at the facts. They are indisputable.

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Re: The TX shooting is 100% Obama's fault
Posted by: P6KVP ()
Date: November 07, 2017 12:29PM

he failed us all Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> 4VDEE Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Wow. Amazingly stupid post, even by FFXU
> > standards.
>
> Wrong, asswipe. Look at the facts. Obama ordered
> all federal agencies to put all relevant records
> into NICS. They didn't and he didn't do shit.
> Trust me, when the facts come out, Devin Kelley
> will not be the only missing record. He begged for
> more gun control laws and he couldn't even manage
> to enforce the ones on the books.
>
> Look at the facts. They are indisputable.

Doubling down on stupid.

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Re: The TX shooting is 100% Obama's fault
Posted by: President Trump FTW! ()
Date: November 07, 2017 12:37PM

he failed us all Wrote:
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> 4VDEE Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Wow. Amazingly stupid post, even by FFXU
> > standards.
>
> Wrong, asswipe. Look at the facts. Obama ordered
> all federal agencies to put all relevant records
> into NICS. They didn't and he didn't do shit.
> Trust me, when the facts come out, Devin Kelley
> will not be the only missing record. He begged for
> more gun control laws and he couldn't even manage
> to enforce the ones on the books.
>
> Look at the facts. They are indisputable.


Did Obama enforce any law? He didn't even enforce Obamacare.

It's great to have a real president like we have with president Trump who loves all Americans and enforces our constitution.

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Re: The TX shooting is 100% Obama's fault
Posted by: Blood on Obama's hands ()
Date: November 07, 2017 12:40PM

Kenyan bitch.

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Re: The TX shooting is 100% Obama's fault
Posted by: trumpitality ()
Date: November 07, 2017 12:47PM

OP is absolutely correct. If the laws on the books were enforced we'd be in a much better state.

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Re: The TX shooting is 100% Obama's fault
Posted by: CE9VP ()
Date: November 07, 2017 12:50PM

Trump has had almost a year to fix the Obama failure to enforce the "Improving Availability of Relevant Executive Branch Records to the National Instant Criminal Background Check System" and he did NOTHING. Now this massacre. The blood is on Trump's hands.

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Re: The TX shooting is 100% Obama's fault
Posted by: he failed us all ()
Date: November 07, 2017 12:52PM

P6KVP Wrote:
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> he failed us all Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > 4VDEE Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Wow. Amazingly stupid post, even by FFXU
> > > standards.
> >
> > Wrong, asswipe. Look at the facts. Obama
> ordered
> > all federal agencies to put all relevant
> records
> > into NICS. They didn't and he didn't do shit.
> > Trust me, when the facts come out, Devin Kelley
> > will not be the only missing record. He begged
> for
> > more gun control laws and he couldn't even
> manage
> > to enforce the ones on the books.
> >
> > Look at the facts. They are indisputable.
>
> Doubling down on stupid.


Dispute one thing I said. You're an idiot and have no substantive information to offer.

Did Obama issue a Presidential Memorandum entitled "Improving Availability of Relevant Executive Branch Records to the National Instant Criminal Background Check System" in 2013? Yes or no.

Was Devin Kelley court martialed in 2012 where he pleaded guilty to the aggravated assault against the child and the assault against his wife? Yes or no.

Did Devin Kelley serve 12 months in confinement and released in 2014? Yes or no.

Based on current law, was Devin Kelley prohibited from purchasing or possessing a firearm under 18 USC 922(g)(1) or (9)? Yes or no.

Did the USAF provide the relevant records to the NICS system pursuant to federal law and the Presidential Memorandum? Yes or no.

Did all of this happen during the Obama administration? Yes or no.

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Re: The TX shooting is 100% Obama's fault
Posted by: Truth and Facts! ()
Date: November 07, 2017 12:54PM

he failed us all Wrote:
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> P6KVP Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > he failed us all Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > 4VDEE Wrote:
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > > -----
> > > > Wow. Amazingly stupid post, even by FFXU
> > > > standards.
> > >
> > > Wrong, asswipe. Look at the facts. Obama
> > ordered
> > > all federal agencies to put all relevant
> > records
> > > into NICS. They didn't and he didn't do shit.
>
> > > Trust me, when the facts come out, Devin
> Kelley
> > > will not be the only missing record. He
> begged
> > for
> > > more gun control laws and he couldn't even
> > manage
> > > to enforce the ones on the books.
> > >
> > > Look at the facts. They are indisputable.
> >
> > Doubling down on stupid.
>
>
> Dispute one thing I said. You're an idiot and
> have no substantive information to offer.
>
> Did Obama issue a Presidential Memorandum entitled
> "Improving Availability of Relevant Executive
> Branch Records to the National Instant Criminal
> Background Check System" in 2013? Yes or no.
>
> Was Devin Kelley court martialed in 2012 where he
> pleaded guilty to the aggravated assault against
> the child and the assault against his wife? Yes or
> no.
>
> Did Devin Kelley serve 12 months in confinement
> and released in 2014? Yes or no.
>
> Based on current law, was Devin Kelley prohibited
> from purchasing or possessing a firearm under 18
> USC 922(g)(1) or (9)? Yes or no.
>
> Did the USAF provide the relevant records to the
> NICS system pursuant to federal law and the
> Presidential Memorandum? Yes or no.
>
> Did all of this happen during the Obama
> administration? Yes or no.


Ah sheeeeet! You're throwing down some truth and facts. Libtards gunna riot!

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Re: The TX shooting is 100% Obama's fault
Posted by: FWY9J ()
Date: November 07, 2017 12:56PM

he failed us all Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> P6KVP Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > he failed us all Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > 4VDEE Wrote:
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > > -----
> > > > Wow. Amazingly stupid post, even by FFXU
> > > > standards.
> > >
> > > Wrong, asswipe. Look at the facts. Obama
> > ordered
> > > all federal agencies to put all relevant
> > records
> > > into NICS. They didn't and he didn't do shit.
>
> > > Trust me, when the facts come out, Devin
> Kelley
> > > will not be the only missing record. He
> begged
> > for
> > > more gun control laws and he couldn't even
> > manage
> > > to enforce the ones on the books.
> > >
> > > Look at the facts. They are indisputable.
> >
> > Doubling down on stupid.
>
>
> Dispute one thing I said. You're an idiot and
> have no substantive information to offer.
>
> Did Obama issue a Presidential Memorandum entitled
> "Improving Availability of Relevant Executive
> Branch Records to the National Instant Criminal
> Background Check System" in 2013? Yes or no.
>
> Was Devin Kelley court martialed in 2012 where he
> pleaded guilty to the aggravated assault against
> the child and the assault against his wife? Yes or
> no.
>
> Did Devin Kelley serve 12 months in confinement
> and released in 2014? Yes or no.
>
> Based on current law, was Devin Kelley prohibited
> from purchasing or possessing a firearm under 18
> USC 922(g)(1) or (9)? Yes or no.
>
> Did the USAF provide the relevant records to the
> NICS system pursuant to federal law and the
> Presidential Memorandum? Yes or no.
>
> Did all of this happen during the Obama
> administration? Yes or no.

All of those are yeses, except the next to last, and you're still an idiot. Amazingly stupid.

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Re: The TX shooting is 100% Obama's fault
Posted by: Dylan Roof ()
Date: November 07, 2017 01:01PM

Same thing with Dylan Roof. They failed to enter to correct information when he was arrested for drug possession that would've prevented him from buying a gun.

Of course, liberal leadership like Obama preaching hatred and his administration and the entire DNC promoting violence and calling for the assassination of conservative Americans doesn't help either.

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Re: The TX shooting is 100% Obama's fault
Posted by: AlbertEinstein ()
Date: November 07, 2017 01:04PM

trumpitality Wrote:
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> OP is absolutely correct. If the laws on the books
> were enforced we'd be in a much better state.


Yet when it comes to gun control laws your standard retort is "criminals dont follow laws".

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Re: The TX shooting is 100% Obama's fault
Posted by: he failed us all ()
Date: November 07, 2017 01:04PM

FWY9J Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> he failed us all Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > P6KVP Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > he failed us all Wrote:
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > > -----
> > > > 4VDEE Wrote:
> > > >
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > >
> > > > -----
> > > > > Wow. Amazingly stupid post, even by FFXU
> > > > > standards.
> > > >
> > > > Wrong, asswipe. Look at the facts. Obama
> > > ordered
> > > > all federal agencies to put all relevant
> > > records
> > > > into NICS. They didn't and he didn't do
> shit.
> >
> > > > Trust me, when the facts come out, Devin
> > Kelley
> > > > will not be the only missing record. He
> > begged
> > > for
> > > > more gun control laws and he couldn't even
> > > manage
> > > > to enforce the ones on the books.
> > > >
> > > > Look at the facts. They are indisputable.
> > >
> > > Doubling down on stupid.
> >
> >
> > Dispute one thing I said. You're an idiot and
> > have no substantive information to offer.
> >
> > Did Obama issue a Presidential Memorandum
> entitled
> > "Improving Availability of Relevant Executive
> > Branch Records to the National Instant Criminal
> > Background Check System" in 2013? Yes or no.
> >
> > Was Devin Kelley court martialed in 2012 where
> he
> > pleaded guilty to the aggravated assault
> against
> > the child and the assault against his wife? Yes
> or
> > no.
> >
> > Did Devin Kelley serve 12 months in confinement
> > and released in 2014? Yes or no.
> >
> > Based on current law, was Devin Kelley
> prohibited
> > from purchasing or possessing a firearm under
> 18
> > USC 922(g)(1) or (9)? Yes or no.
> >
> > Did the USAF provide the relevant records to
> the
> > NICS system pursuant to federal law and the
> > Presidential Memorandum? Yes or no.
> >
> > Did all of this happen during the Obama
> > administration? Yes or no.
>
> All of those are yeses, except the next to last,
> and you're still an idiot. Amazingly stupid.

So, you concede I am correct. Thank you. And if the USAF entered the records, Devin Kelley would have been prohibited from purchasing the firearm he murdered all those people with.

C'mon, moron, you've got nothing here. You should be embarrassed, but you're just to stupid to know shame.

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Re: The TX shooting is 100% Obama's fault
Posted by: see the difference? ()
Date: November 07, 2017 01:05PM

AlbertEinstein Wrote:
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> trumpitality Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > OP is absolutely correct. If the laws on the
> books
> > were enforced we'd be in a much better state.
>
>
> Yet when it comes to gun control laws your
> standard retort is "criminals dont follow laws".


The problem here is the government (under Obama) didn't follow the laws.

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Re: The TX shooting is 100% Obama's fault
Posted by: Couldn't throw a baseball ()
Date: November 07, 2017 01:34PM

Obama was and is a huge fag.

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Re: The TX shooting is 100% Obama's fault
Posted by: Guvgvivy ()
Date: November 07, 2017 01:56PM

Going with them here
So any blunder by local, state, federal government or any branch of the government while trump is president is trumps fault?

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Re: The TX shooting is 100% Obama's fault
Posted by: he is to blame ()
Date: November 07, 2017 02:02PM

Guvgvivy Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Going with them here
> So any blunder by local, state, federal government
> or any branch of the government while trump is
> president is trumps fault?


Well, according to Trump haters it is. Have you been asleep for the past 10 months?

Although, nobody is blaming Obama for state and local government blunders.

If you can't see the direct nexus to Obama in this situation, you are being willfully blind. Read the memorandum. Look at what happened.

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Re: The TX shooting is 100% Obama's fault
Posted by: Joe "Shotgun" Biden ()
Date: November 07, 2017 02:16PM

“And to your point, Mr. Baker, regarding the lack of prosecutions on lying on Form 4473s, we simply don’t have the time or manpower to prosecute everybody who lies on a form, that checks a wrong box, that answers a question inaccurately.”

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Re: The TX shooting is 100% Obama's fault
Posted by: That's a 0.00058 rate ()
Date: November 07, 2017 02:18PM

In 2010, prosecutors considered just 22 cases of information falsification, according to a 2012 report to the Department of Justice by the Regional Justice Information Service. Forty additional background-check cases ended up before prosecutors for reasons related to unlawful gun possession.

In all, prosecutors pursued just 44 of those 62 cases. More than 72,600 applications were denied on the basis of a background check.

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Re: The TX shooting is 100% Obama's fault
Posted by: it's all true ()
Date: November 07, 2017 02:24PM

That's a 0.00058 rate Wrote:
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> In 2010, prosecutors considered just 22 cases of
> information falsification, according to a 2012
> report to the Department of Justice by the
> Regional Justice Information Service. Forty
> additional background-check cases ended up before
> prosecutors for reasons related to unlawful gun
> possession.
>
> In all, prosecutors pursued just 44 of those 62
> cases. More than 72,600 applications were denied
> on the basis of a background check.

Exactly. The Obama administration was a complete joke when it came to taking gun crimes seriously. All one has to do is realize that he granted clemency to serious violent felons who had weapons convictions on their records. Democrats wanted to ignore all of it. They talked a big game on guns but actually made us less safe.

Ever notice it is Democrats who derive the most joy from mass shootings? It's almost like they can't wait for the next one so they can talk about their useless gun control ideas. Meanwhile, they didn't even enforce the ones on the books.

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Re: The TX shooting is 100% Obama's fault
Posted by: Eric Holder ()
Date: November 07, 2017 02:40PM

it's all true Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> That's a 0.00058 rate Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > In 2010, prosecutors considered just 22 cases
> of
> > information falsification, according to a 2012
> > report to the Department of Justice by the
> > Regional Justice Information Service. Forty
> > additional background-check cases ended up
> before
> > prosecutors for reasons related to unlawful gun
> > possession.
> >
> > In all, prosecutors pursued just 44 of those 62
> > cases. More than 72,600 applications were
> denied
> > on the basis of a background check.
>
> Exactly. The Obama administration was a complete
> joke when it came to taking gun crimes seriously.
> All one has to do is realize that he granted
> clemency to serious violent felons who had weapons
> convictions on their records. Democrats wanted to
> ignore all of it. They talked a big game on guns
> but actually made us less safe.
>
> Ever notice it is Democrats who derive the most
> joy from mass shootings? It's almost like they
> can't wait for the next one so they can talk about
> their useless gun control ideas. Meanwhile, they
> didn't even enforce the ones on the books.


Yeah, but it's racist to prosecute young urban black 15-24 yr old males who are responsible for about 75% of gun homicides. Even though most are other young urban black 15-24 yr old males.

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Re: The TX shooting is 100% Obama's fault
Posted by: he's right ()
Date: December 12, 2017 02:44PM

he failed us all Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> 4VDEE Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Wow. Amazingly stupid post, even by FFXU
> > standards.
>
> Wrong, asswipe. Look at the facts. Obama ordered
> all federal agencies to put all relevant records
> into NICS. They didn't and he didn't do shit.
> Trust me, when the facts come out, Devin Kelley
> will not be the only missing record. He begged for
> more gun control laws and he couldn't even manage
> to enforce the ones on the books.
>
> Look at the facts. They are indisputable.


Very prescient comment.

http://www.businessinsider.com/air-force-background-gun-check-texas-church-shooter-2017-11

This appears to be a systemic problem. That's poor leadership that starts at the top.

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Re: The TX shooting is 100% Obama's fault
Posted by: Sharky8 ()
Date: December 12, 2017 04:51PM

The Obama Administration (and Hillary and company for that matter) should be widely investigated for their negligence and criminal activity. The findings in the very least should be published in an easy to read book so that Americans understand how badly these criminals abused the system and broke the law.

Time will tell more about these crooks.

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