Here's a stimulus success story: In Arizona's 15th congressional district, 30 jobs have been saved or created with just $761,420 in federal stimulus spending.

so, when can we expect each person to pay back the $25K they cost us?


"the wisdom of the wise will perish, the intelligence of the intelligent will vanish."

Gravis Wrote:
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> so, when can we expect each person to pay back the
> $25K they cost us?


They likely pay it back in income taxes. Try this one on for size, In Connecticut's 42nd district the recovery.gov Web site claims 25 jobs created with ZERO stimulus dollars!

It takes small businesses a while to ramp up to a hiring mode once they have cut people. If the stimulus funds allow these businesses not to cut people in the first place, or to be a little more confident in the short term to hire people with the belief they will be able to keep them on once the economy starts to come back, I think it is a good investment of taxpayer dollars.

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WashingTone-Locian Wrote:
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> It takes small businesses a while to ramp up to a
> hiring mode once they have cut people. If the
> stimulus funds allow these businesses not to cut
> people in the first place, or to be a little more
> confident in the short term to hire people with
> the belief they will be able to keep them on once
> the economy starts to come back, I think it is a
> good investment of taxpayer dollars.

Exactly, not only is the program putting people to work, it is putting them in homes. Recovery.gov says $34 million in stimulus money has been spent in Arizona's 86th congressional district in a project for the Navajo Housing authority!

Gravis Wrote:
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> so, when can we expect each person to pay back the
> $25K they cost us?


If they were lower-paying jobs for people that pay no federal income tax anyway, then a whole buncha years of NEVER.

pgens Wrote:
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> Gravis Wrote:
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> > so, when can we expect each person to pay back
> the
> > $25K they cost us?
>
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> If they were lower-paying jobs for people that pay
> no federal income tax anyway, then a whole buncha
> years of NEVER.

That's not the point, the point is that 40.3 people got jobs created in the 99th congressional district of the U.S. Virgin Islands with only $8.4 million spent.

I believe the point was that there is no 15th congressional district in AZ.

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/jobs-saved-created-congressional-districts-exist/story?id=9097853

SomeGuy Wrote:
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> I believe the point was that there is no 15th
> congressional district in AZ.
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> http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/jobs-saved-created-
> congressional-districts-exist/story?id=9097853

Whatever, naysayer, just because these Congressional districts don't exist doesn't mean it isn't helping the people of AZ's 15th!!

SomeGuy Wrote:
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> I believe the point was that there is no 15th
> congressional district in AZ.
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> http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/jobs-saved-created-
> congressional-districts-exist/story?id=9097853


In that case, someone needs to be losing their job for putting that out without fact-checking.

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It's kind of scary that these folks work for the Federal government and can't be expected to do some basic fact checking before they post this stuff. And by doing so, it brings into question everything they have promoted with saving jobs and such.

But wait, I thought the only one doing investigative journalism these days was Jon Stewart....

If you can’t model the past, where you know the answer pretty well, how can you model the future? - William Happer Cyrus Fogg Brackett Professor of Physics Princeton University

WashingTone-Locian Wrote:
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> In that case, someone needs to be losing their job
> for putting that out without fact-checking.


If you fired everyone that screwed this waste-of-money up then there would be a net loss after all of the smoke cleared.

Sad thing about this - any job that might have REALLY been created is most likely either temporary or a government job - one that doesn't produce anything but a warm body.

WashingTone-Locian Wrote:
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> It takes small businesses a while to ramp up to a
> hiring mode once they have cut people. If the
> stimulus funds allow these businesses not to cut
> people in the first place, or to be a little more
> confident in the short term to hire people with
> the belief they will be able to keep them on once
> the economy starts to come back, I think it is a
> good investment of taxpayer dollars.


Ridiculous.

F small businesses wanting my tax dollars. Who the f are they to characterize confiscation of money from my back pocket as a "good investment."

Completely assinine.

WashingTone-Locian Wrote:
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> It takes small businesses a while to ramp up to a
> hiring mode once they have cut people. If the
> stimulus funds allow these businesses not to cut
> people in the first place, or to be a little more
> confident in the short term to hire people with
> the belief they will be able to keep them on once
> the economy starts to come back, I think it is a
> good investment of taxpayer dollars.


small businesses fail all the time. i simply dont like that there are handouts being given to save a few.


"the wisdom of the wise will perish, the intelligence of the intelligent will vanish."