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Issues Raised About Hasan on Bush's Watch
Posted by:
WashingTone-Locian
()
Date: November 11, 2009 08:21PM
For six years, administrators at Walter Reed expressed concerns about Hasan's behavior. The Bush Administration did nothing...
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=120313570
...Bush was more concerned about recording EVERYBODY's phone conversations instead of responding to valid concerns raised by officers in the military.
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http://bible.cc/1_corinthians/13-11.htm
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=120313570
...Bush was more concerned about recording EVERYBODY's phone conversations instead of responding to valid concerns raised by officers in the military.
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http://bible.cc/1_corinthians/13-11.htm
Re: Issues Raised About Hasan on Bush's Watch
Posted by:
Registered Voter
()
Date: November 12, 2009 02:46AM
WashingTone-Locian Wrote:
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> For six years, administrators at Walter Reed
> expressed concerns about Hasan's behavior. The
> Bush Administration did nothing...
>
> http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?story
> Id=120313570
>
> ...Bush was more concerned about recording
> EVERYBODY's phone conversations instead of
> responding to valid concerns raised by officers in
> the military.
If that is the standard, then Clinton truly was responsible for 9/11.
If you can’t model the past, where you know the answer pretty well, how can you model the future? - William Happer Cyrus Fogg Brackett Professor of Physics Princeton University
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> For six years, administrators at Walter Reed
> expressed concerns about Hasan's behavior. The
> Bush Administration did nothing...
>
> http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?story
> Id=120313570
>
> ...Bush was more concerned about recording
> EVERYBODY's phone conversations instead of
> responding to valid concerns raised by officers in
> the military.
If that is the standard, then Clinton truly was responsible for 9/11.
If you can’t model the past, where you know the answer pretty well, how can you model the future? - William Happer Cyrus Fogg Brackett Professor of Physics Princeton University
Re: Issues Raised About Hasan on Bush's Watch
Posted by:
Gravis
()
Date: November 12, 2009 04:49AM
WashingTone-Locian Wrote:
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> For six years, administrators at Walter Reed
> expressed concerns about Hasan's behavior. The
> Bush Administration did nothing...
>
> http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?story
> Id=120313570
>
> ...Bush was more concerned about recording
> EVERYBODY's phone conversations instead of
> responding to valid concerns raised by officers in
> the military.
i could be wrong, but i dont think the bush administration established the military protocols for putting a doctor on probation or expelling them. it's all 20-20 in hindsight but if it were so blaringly obvious at the time, this wouldnt have happened.
blaming the past is not going to help fix the future.
"the wisdom of the wise will perish, the intelligence of the intelligent will vanish."
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> For six years, administrators at Walter Reed
> expressed concerns about Hasan's behavior. The
> Bush Administration did nothing...
>
> http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?story
> Id=120313570
>
> ...Bush was more concerned about recording
> EVERYBODY's phone conversations instead of
> responding to valid concerns raised by officers in
> the military.
i could be wrong, but i dont think the bush administration established the military protocols for putting a doctor on probation or expelling them. it's all 20-20 in hindsight but if it were so blaringly obvious at the time, this wouldnt have happened.
blaming the past is not going to help fix the future.
"the wisdom of the wise will perish, the intelligence of the intelligent will vanish."
Re: Issues Raised About Hasan on Bush's Watch
Posted by:
bush is bad obama ...
()
Date: November 12, 2009 05:16AM
WashingTone-Locian Wrote:
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> For six years, administrators at Walter Reed
> expressed concerns about Hasan's behavior. The
> Bush Administration did nothing...
>
> http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?story
> Id=120313570
>
> ...Bush was more concerned about recording
> EVERYBODY's phone conversations instead of
> responding to valid concerns raised by officers in
> the military.
bush is bad obama is good bush is bad obama is good
[repeat 206 times]
[yawn]
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> For six years, administrators at Walter Reed
> expressed concerns about Hasan's behavior. The
> Bush Administration did nothing...
>
> http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?story
> Id=120313570
>
> ...Bush was more concerned about recording
> EVERYBODY's phone conversations instead of
> responding to valid concerns raised by officers in
> the military.
bush is bad obama is good bush is bad obama is good
[repeat 206 times]
[yawn]
Re: Issues Raised About Hasan on Bush's Watch
Posted by:
RestonLass
()
Date: November 12, 2009 06:12AM
Gravis Wrote:
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> i could be wrong, but i dont think the bush
> administration established the military protocols
> for putting a doctor on probation or expelling
> them. it's all 20-20 in hindsight but if it were
> so blaringly obvious at the time, this wouldnt
> have happened.
>
>
> blaming the past is not going to help fix the
> future.
>
>
It wouldn't have mattered if Bush established protocols or not, a complaint has to be filed before any action can be taken.
As the news reports reveal more about Hasan's past, he was described as argumentative, belligerent and sometimes aggressive when discussing the Iraq and Afghanistan wars and Islam.
Although his peers felt he was teetering on the edge, they also felt if they filed complaints against him, they might be misinterpreted as religious intolerance subjecting themselves to possible disciplinary measures (for failing to be PC)
Instead, the internal board (strongly) encouraged Hasan to attend lectures about terrorism and the true meaning of the Islam faith in hopes it would re-channel his anger. He attended the classes, but obviously the message didn't get through to him.
Political Correctness has it’s place, but it’s become such a touchy issue. It is often abused either for personal gain or to avoid dealing with difficult situations, such as this.
If a group of highly educated professional doctors are concerned about the emotional stability of a peer but afraid to do anything about it because of the “rule of PC,” maybe it’s time to redefine the term.
Obama is pro "stick your head in the sand" in the best interest of PC - far more so than Bush who often choked on his ankle nearly everytime he opened his mouth.
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> i could be wrong, but i dont think the bush
> administration established the military protocols
> for putting a doctor on probation or expelling
> them. it's all 20-20 in hindsight but if it were
> so blaringly obvious at the time, this wouldnt
> have happened.
>
>
> blaming the past is not going to help fix the
> future.
>
>
It wouldn't have mattered if Bush established protocols or not, a complaint has to be filed before any action can be taken.
As the news reports reveal more about Hasan's past, he was described as argumentative, belligerent and sometimes aggressive when discussing the Iraq and Afghanistan wars and Islam.
Although his peers felt he was teetering on the edge, they also felt if they filed complaints against him, they might be misinterpreted as religious intolerance subjecting themselves to possible disciplinary measures (for failing to be PC)
Instead, the internal board (strongly) encouraged Hasan to attend lectures about terrorism and the true meaning of the Islam faith in hopes it would re-channel his anger. He attended the classes, but obviously the message didn't get through to him.
Political Correctness has it’s place, but it’s become such a touchy issue. It is often abused either for personal gain or to avoid dealing with difficult situations, such as this.
If a group of highly educated professional doctors are concerned about the emotional stability of a peer but afraid to do anything about it because of the “rule of PC,” maybe it’s time to redefine the term.
Obama is pro "stick your head in the sand" in the best interest of PC - far more so than Bush who often choked on his ankle nearly everytime he opened his mouth.
Re: Issues Raised About Hasan on Bush's Watch
Posted by:
Ray Leatherby
()
Date: November 12, 2009 10:40AM
WashingTone-Locian Wrote:
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> For six years, administrators at Walter Reed
> expressed concerns about Hasan's behavior. The
> Bush Administration did nothing...
>
> http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?story
> Id=120313570
>
> ...Bush was more concerned about recording
> EVERYBODY's phone conversations instead of
> responding to valid concerns raised by officers in
> the military.
BOO HOO HOO
-----------------------------------
I am now in control of your internets.
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> For six years, administrators at Walter Reed
> expressed concerns about Hasan's behavior. The
> Bush Administration did nothing...
>
> http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?story
> Id=120313570
>
> ...Bush was more concerned about recording
> EVERYBODY's phone conversations instead of
> responding to valid concerns raised by officers in
> the military.
BOO HOO HOO
-----------------------------------
I am now in control of your internets.
Re: Issues Raised About Hasan on Bush's Watch
Posted by:
Chris Van Hollen
()
Date: November 12, 2009 10:44AM
Another WTL post deflecting the fact that Obama's presidency is a failure thus far. Big surprise.
Re: Issues Raised About Hasan on Bush's Watch
Posted by:
Connie Morella
()
Date: November 12, 2009 11:37AM
Chris Van Hollen Wrote:
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> Another WTL post deflecting the fact that Obama's
> presidency is a failure thus far. Big surprise.
Hey - Chris. I thought you were a Democrat!
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> Another WTL post deflecting the fact that Obama's
> presidency is a failure thus far. Big surprise.
Hey - Chris. I thought you were a Democrat!
Re: Issues Raised About Hasan on Bush's Watch
Posted by:
WashingTone-Locian
()
Date: November 12, 2009 11:40AM
Chris Van Hollen Wrote:
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> Another WTL post deflecting the fact that Obama's
> presidency is a failure thus far. Big surprise.
"Thus far" aside, it's still too early to determine that the Obama Presidency is a failure. However, if the topic is discussing Presidencies that did fail, George W. Bush's would be right on topic.
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http://bible.cc/1_corinthians/13-11.htm
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> Another WTL post deflecting the fact that Obama's
> presidency is a failure thus far. Big surprise.
"Thus far" aside, it's still too early to determine that the Obama Presidency is a failure. However, if the topic is discussing Presidencies that did fail, George W. Bush's would be right on topic.
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http://bible.cc/1_corinthians/13-11.htm
Re: Issues Raised About Hasan on Bush's Watch
Posted by:
Chris Van Hollen
()
Date: November 12, 2009 11:48AM
WashingTone-Locian Wrote:
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> Chris Van Hollen Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Another WTL post deflecting the fact that
> Obama's
> > presidency is a failure thus far. Big
> surprise.
>
>
> "Thus far" aside, it's still too early to
> determine that the Obama Presidency is a failure.
> However, if the topic is discussing Presidencies
> that did fail, George W. Bush's would be right on
> topic.
"Thus far" is not aside, as it is an intrigal part of the statement. I specifically used the term "thus far" to make that point. I can still say the Redskins suck thus far into the season. If they win the Super Bowl, the season will have been a success. Likewise, Obama's Presidency may be a success, but he has yet to right the ship so to speak.
Great, you are comparing Obama to Goerge W. Bush. Way to set the benchmark high,
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> Chris Van Hollen Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Another WTL post deflecting the fact that
> Obama's
> > presidency is a failure thus far. Big
> surprise.
>
>
> "Thus far" aside, it's still too early to
> determine that the Obama Presidency is a failure.
> However, if the topic is discussing Presidencies
> that did fail, George W. Bush's would be right on
> topic.
"Thus far" is not aside, as it is an intrigal part of the statement. I specifically used the term "thus far" to make that point. I can still say the Redskins suck thus far into the season. If they win the Super Bowl, the season will have been a success. Likewise, Obama's Presidency may be a success, but he has yet to right the ship so to speak.
Great, you are comparing Obama to Goerge W. Bush. Way to set the benchmark high,
Re: Issues Raised About Hasan on Bush's Watch
Posted by:
Reality Check
()
Date: November 12, 2009 11:54AM
Chris Van Hollen Wrote:
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> WashingTone-Locian Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Chris Van Hollen Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Another WTL post deflecting the fact that
> > Obama's
> > > presidency is a failure thus far. Big
> > surprise.
> >
> >
> > "Thus far" aside, it's still too early to
> > determine that the Obama Presidency is a
> failure.
> > However, if the topic is discussing
> Presidencies
> > that did fail, George W. Bush's would be right
> on
> > topic.
>
> "Thus far" is not aside, as it is an intrigal part
> of the statement. I specifically used the term
> "thus far" to make that point. I can still say
> the Redskins suck thus far into the season. If
> they win the Super Bowl, the season will have been
> a success. Likewise, Obama's Presidency may be a
> success, but he has yet to right the ship so to
> speak.
>
> Great, you are comparing Obama to Goerge W. Bush.
> Way to set the benchmark high,
Time to face some facts: George W Bush is a complete loser.
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> WashingTone-Locian Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Chris Van Hollen Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Another WTL post deflecting the fact that
> > Obama's
> > > presidency is a failure thus far. Big
> > surprise.
> >
> >
> > "Thus far" aside, it's still too early to
> > determine that the Obama Presidency is a
> failure.
> > However, if the topic is discussing
> Presidencies
> > that did fail, George W. Bush's would be right
> on
> > topic.
>
> "Thus far" is not aside, as it is an intrigal part
> of the statement. I specifically used the term
> "thus far" to make that point. I can still say
> the Redskins suck thus far into the season. If
> they win the Super Bowl, the season will have been
> a success. Likewise, Obama's Presidency may be a
> success, but he has yet to right the ship so to
> speak.
>
> Great, you are comparing Obama to Goerge W. Bush.
> Way to set the benchmark high,
Time to face some facts: George W Bush is a complete loser.
Re: Issues Raised About Hasan on Bush's Watch
Posted by:
Connie Morella
()
Date: November 12, 2009 11:56AM
Chris Van Hollen Wrote:
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> Great, you are comparing Obama to Goerge W. Bush.
> Way to set the benchmark high,
Hey. How about this - let's compare Obama to other community-organizing Chicago thugs! Obama's a success!!!!
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> Great, you are comparing Obama to Goerge W. Bush.
> Way to set the benchmark high,
Hey. How about this - let's compare Obama to other community-organizing Chicago thugs! Obama's a success!!!!
Re: Issues Raised About Hasan on Bush's Watch
Posted by:
DR. TEETH
()
Date: November 12, 2009 02:04PM
WashingTone-Locian Wrote:
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> For six years, administrators at Walter Reed
> expressed concerns about Hasan's behavior. The
> Bush Administration did nothing...
>
> http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?story
> Id=120313570
>
> ...Bush was more concerned about recording
> EVERYBODY's phone conversations instead of
> responding to valid concerns raised by officers in
> the military.
Shut your hole penis boy.
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> For six years, administrators at Walter Reed
> expressed concerns about Hasan's behavior. The
> Bush Administration did nothing...
>
> http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?story
> Id=120313570
>
> ...Bush was more concerned about recording
> EVERYBODY's phone conversations instead of
> responding to valid concerns raised by officers in
> the military.
Shut your hole penis boy.
Re: Issues Raised About Hasan on Bush's Watch
Posted by:
Robert Gibbs
()
Date: November 12, 2009 02:56PM
WashingTone-Locian Wrote:
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> For six years, administrators at Walter Reed
> expressed concerns about Hasan's behavior. The
> Bush Administration did nothing...
>
> http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?story
> Id=120313570
>
> ...Bush was more concerned about recording
> EVERYBODY's phone conversations instead of
> responding to valid concerns raised by officers in
> the military.
-------------------------------------------------------
> For six years, administrators at Walter Reed
> expressed concerns about Hasan's behavior. The
> Bush Administration did nothing...
>
> http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?story
> Id=120313570
>
> ...Bush was more concerned about recording
> EVERYBODY's phone conversations instead of
> responding to valid concerns raised by officers in
> the military.
Re: Issues Raised About Hasan on Bush's Watch
Posted by:
ThePackLeader
()
Date: November 13, 2009 12:09AM
Registered Voter Wrote:
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> WashingTone-Locian Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > For six years, administrators at Walter Reed
> > expressed concerns about Hasan's behavior. The
> > Bush Administration did nothing...
> >
> >
> http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?story
>
> > Id=120313570
> >
> > ...Bush was more concerned about recording
> > EVERYBODY's phone conversations instead of
> > responding to valid concerns raised by officers
> in
> > the military.
>
> If that is the standard, then Clinton truly was
> responsible for 9/11.
Well, he and his Administration were in fact responsible for allowing the situation to arise, which did in fact lead to it.
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> WashingTone-Locian Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > For six years, administrators at Walter Reed
> > expressed concerns about Hasan's behavior. The
> > Bush Administration did nothing...
> >
> >
> http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?story
>
> > Id=120313570
> >
> > ...Bush was more concerned about recording
> > EVERYBODY's phone conversations instead of
> > responding to valid concerns raised by officers
> in
> > the military.
>
> If that is the standard, then Clinton truly was
> responsible for 9/11.
Well, he and his Administration were in fact responsible for allowing the situation to arise, which did in fact lead to it.