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Mark Warner Finally Shows Up to Work
Posted by:
Jim Webb
()
Date: November 10, 2009 01:37PM
...and actually makes sense. Go figure.
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Warner: Obama misplayed health care debate
Joseph Weber
EXCLUSIVE:
Freshman Sen. Mark Warner, Virginia Democrat, said Tuesday that President Obama has misplayed his attempt to reform U.S. heath care by focusing on insurance coverage instead of explaining that the current system is headed toward a financial meltdown.
"I wish the president would have started the debate by explaining to the American people that our current health care system is not financially sustainable, for even another decade," Mr. Warner said. "Driving down health care costs should have been the focus of the debate."
Mr. Warner, 54, made millions investing in technology ventures before he became Virginia's governor from 2002 to 2006 and helped cut the state's $6 billion deficit through a tax package.
On Tuesday, he told The Washington Times' "America's Morning News" radio show the key points of the debate should be that the largest contributor to the U.S deficit is federal spending on health care, Medicare will go bankrupt in the next seven years and the average American family will spend 40 percent of its disposable income on health care insurance.
He also said the cost of insurance on U.S. businesses is increasing their costs, making them less competitive in the worldwide market.
"As a former business guy, I believe America has to stay competitive in the global economy," Mr. Warner said.
The effort by the Democrat-controlled Congress to fulfill Mr. Obama's goal of reforming health care in his first year began this summer, with contentious debates on Capitol Hill, then in town-hall-style meetings across the country.
The House last week passed a reform bill, but the Senate has yet to hold a full vote. Among the major issues are cost, a potential government-run system and now abortion funding.
Mr. Warner also said Tuesday that he, along with some Republicans and fellow Democrats in Congress, think the economy will never fully recover from the recession unless the roughly $1.4 trillion federal deficit is brought under control.
He said old methods are not working and advocated for a bipartisan commission to make a new set of regulations on which Capitol Hill lawmakers could vote only "yes" or "no."
"I'm a new senator, but I don't see how we're going to get the deficit under control if we do it through the regular order in the Senate in which people can add and protect their own programs."
He said some Democrats also are saying they might not vote to extend the ceiling on the debt without a commitment to create the commission.
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Warner: Obama misplayed health care debate
Joseph Weber
EXCLUSIVE:
Freshman Sen. Mark Warner, Virginia Democrat, said Tuesday that President Obama has misplayed his attempt to reform U.S. heath care by focusing on insurance coverage instead of explaining that the current system is headed toward a financial meltdown.
"I wish the president would have started the debate by explaining to the American people that our current health care system is not financially sustainable, for even another decade," Mr. Warner said. "Driving down health care costs should have been the focus of the debate."
Mr. Warner, 54, made millions investing in technology ventures before he became Virginia's governor from 2002 to 2006 and helped cut the state's $6 billion deficit through a tax package.
On Tuesday, he told The Washington Times' "America's Morning News" radio show the key points of the debate should be that the largest contributor to the U.S deficit is federal spending on health care, Medicare will go bankrupt in the next seven years and the average American family will spend 40 percent of its disposable income on health care insurance.
He also said the cost of insurance on U.S. businesses is increasing their costs, making them less competitive in the worldwide market.
"As a former business guy, I believe America has to stay competitive in the global economy," Mr. Warner said.
The effort by the Democrat-controlled Congress to fulfill Mr. Obama's goal of reforming health care in his first year began this summer, with contentious debates on Capitol Hill, then in town-hall-style meetings across the country.
The House last week passed a reform bill, but the Senate has yet to hold a full vote. Among the major issues are cost, a potential government-run system and now abortion funding.
Mr. Warner also said Tuesday that he, along with some Republicans and fellow Democrats in Congress, think the economy will never fully recover from the recession unless the roughly $1.4 trillion federal deficit is brought under control.
He said old methods are not working and advocated for a bipartisan commission to make a new set of regulations on which Capitol Hill lawmakers could vote only "yes" or "no."
"I'm a new senator, but I don't see how we're going to get the deficit under control if we do it through the regular order in the Senate in which people can add and protect their own programs."
He said some Democrats also are saying they might not vote to extend the ceiling on the debt without a commitment to create the commission.
Re: Mark Warner Finally Shows Up to Work
Posted by:
Bill Clinton
()
Date: November 10, 2009 05:10PM
Warner is irrelevant. The Clintons took him out without trying so he definitely has skeletons in his closet. Warner will never emerge as anything beyond what he has already done.
Re: Mark Warner Finally Shows Up to Work
Posted by:
Bobbey McDonnell
()
Date: November 10, 2009 05:47PM
Just like little Bobbey McDonnell, winner of the 3rd grade class presidency who basically promised to extend recess by 5 minutes and put more Twinkies in the school snack machine.
Re: Mark Warner Finally Shows Up to Work
Posted by:
RestonLass
()
Date: November 10, 2009 06:55PM
If he votes NO with the other Senators, I'll vote for him .... again.
Re: Mark Warner Finally Shows Up to Work
Posted by:
ThePackLeader
()
Date: November 10, 2009 07:11PM
A family member of mine actually met Warner before, and they said he's definitely a Moderate, and an overall good person. Some friends of mine up in NY are also close friends of his, and I heard the same from them as well. I do hope that he votes "NAY" on this bill in the Senate, because that's more or less what I expect of him.
Re: Mark Warner Finally Shows Up to Work
Posted by:
Vince(1)
()
Date: November 10, 2009 09:34PM
ThePackLeader Wrote:
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> A family member of mine actually met Warner
> before, and they said he's definitely a Moderate,
> and an overall good person. Some friends of mine
> up in NY are also close friends of his, and I
> heard the same from them as well. I do hope that
> he votes "NAY" on this bill in the Senate, because
> that's more or less what I expect of him.
He'll be a one term senator if he does. This is a time when the men are seperated from the boys..the boys will be asked to leave. Warner's future is with the progrssive arm of the democratic party...republicans within the commonwealth will never give a moderate republican or democrat any quarter. This is the age of the radical republican....no abortions..no birth control...no new taxes..extremism!
Registered Voter...a Big talking coward..big man on FFXU...little man in life.
Edited 5 time(s). Last edit at 11/10/2009 09:37PM by Vince(1).
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> A family member of mine actually met Warner
> before, and they said he's definitely a Moderate,
> and an overall good person. Some friends of mine
> up in NY are also close friends of his, and I
> heard the same from them as well. I do hope that
> he votes "NAY" on this bill in the Senate, because
> that's more or less what I expect of him.
He'll be a one term senator if he does. This is a time when the men are seperated from the boys..the boys will be asked to leave. Warner's future is with the progrssive arm of the democratic party...republicans within the commonwealth will never give a moderate republican or democrat any quarter. This is the age of the radical republican....no abortions..no birth control...no new taxes..extremism!
Registered Voter...a Big talking coward..big man on FFXU...little man in life.
Edited 5 time(s). Last edit at 11/10/2009 09:37PM by Vince(1).
Re: Mark Warner Finally Shows Up to Work
Posted by:
RestonLass
()
Date: November 11, 2009 05:45AM
Actually this is the age of the conservative Democrat and Indepependent, both joing in a common cause to take the country in a direction of recovery - something the empty suit in the Oval Office can't seem to do.
Nearly a year into this term, he is demonstrating to Americans what he really is - one heck of an orator and campaigner, who can't follow through on anything.
Nearly a year into this term, he is demonstrating to Americans what he really is - one heck of an orator and campaigner, who can't follow through on anything.
Re: Mark Warner Finally Shows Up to Work
Posted by:
Vince(1)
()
Date: November 11, 2009 07:16AM
Youre gonna have healthcare reform..that's more then Bush did in 8 years.
Registered Voter...a Big talking coward..big man on FFXU...little man in life.
Registered Voter...a Big talking coward..big man on FFXU...little man in life.
Re: Mark Warner Finally Shows Up to Work
Posted by:
Vince(1)
()
Date: November 11, 2009 07:24AM
And as is fitting..our soldiers get the best medical care we can provide...a govt run medical system.
Registered Voter...a Big talking coward..big man on FFXU...little man in life.
Registered Voter...a Big talking coward..big man on FFXU...little man in life.
Re: Mark Warner Finally Shows Up to Work
Posted by:
Leonard Matlovich
()
Date: November 11, 2009 07:40AM
Vince(1) Wrote:
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> And as is fitting..our soldiers get the best
> medical care we can provide...a govt run medical
> system.
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> And as is fitting..our soldiers get the best
> medical care we can provide...a govt run medical
> system.
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WASHINGTON, DC - Servicemembers United, the nation's largest organization of gay and lesbian troops and veterans and their allies, announced today that the American Medical Association (AMA) has passed a resolution calling for full repeal of the "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" law.
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Re: Mark Warner Finally Shows Up to Work
Posted by:
ITRADE
()
Date: November 11, 2009 09:28AM
Vince(1) Wrote:
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> ThePackLeader Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > A family member of mine actually met Warner
> > before, and they said he's definitely a
> Moderate,
> > and an overall good person. Some friends of
> mine
> > up in NY are also close friends of his, and I
> > heard the same from them as well. I do hope
> that
> > he votes "NAY" on this bill in the Senate,
> because
> > that's more or less what I expect of him.
>
>
> He'll be a one term senator if he does. This is a
> time when the men are seperated from the boys..the
> boys will be asked to leave. Warner's future is
> with the progrssive arm of the democratic
> party...republicans within the commonwealth will
> never give a moderate republican or democrat any
> quarter. This is the age of the radical
> republican....no abortions..no birth control...no
> new taxes..extremism!
Whatever. Have you actually noticed that the last three democratic governors/candidates could only win by acting moderate or republican.
A NE liberal would NEVER win statewide office in Virginia - not in my lifetime.
You keep arguing that the DNC in VA needs to make a hard left. Every major political science expert in Virginia - Bill Connolley at W&L, Larry Sabato at UVa, etc. - all agree that a liberal candidate could not win an election. If you think that the embarrassment of Dirty Deeds was bad, imagine what Brian Moran would have been. 2/3s of moderates voted for McDonnell. I can guarantee you that with Brian's positions, the VA election would be more like 70-30 as opposed to 60-40.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 11/11/2009 09:28AM by ITRADE.
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> ThePackLeader Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > A family member of mine actually met Warner
> > before, and they said he's definitely a
> Moderate,
> > and an overall good person. Some friends of
> mine
> > up in NY are also close friends of his, and I
> > heard the same from them as well. I do hope
> that
> > he votes "NAY" on this bill in the Senate,
> because
> > that's more or less what I expect of him.
>
>
> He'll be a one term senator if he does. This is a
> time when the men are seperated from the boys..the
> boys will be asked to leave. Warner's future is
> with the progrssive arm of the democratic
> party...republicans within the commonwealth will
> never give a moderate republican or democrat any
> quarter. This is the age of the radical
> republican....no abortions..no birth control...no
> new taxes..extremism!
Whatever. Have you actually noticed that the last three democratic governors/candidates could only win by acting moderate or republican.
A NE liberal would NEVER win statewide office in Virginia - not in my lifetime.
You keep arguing that the DNC in VA needs to make a hard left. Every major political science expert in Virginia - Bill Connolley at W&L, Larry Sabato at UVa, etc. - all agree that a liberal candidate could not win an election. If you think that the embarrassment of Dirty Deeds was bad, imagine what Brian Moran would have been. 2/3s of moderates voted for McDonnell. I can guarantee you that with Brian's positions, the VA election would be more like 70-30 as opposed to 60-40.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 11/11/2009 09:28AM by ITRADE.
Re: Mark Warner Finally Shows Up to Work
Posted by:
Doc
()
Date: November 12, 2009 10:56AM
Vince(1) Wrote:
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> And as is fitting..our soldiers get the best
> medical care we can provide...a govt run medical
> system.
Yeah, it's been a shining light of health care in America, you moron.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/03/04/AR2007030401394.html
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> And as is fitting..our soldiers get the best
> medical care we can provide...a govt run medical
> system.
Yeah, it's been a shining light of health care in America, you moron.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/03/04/AR2007030401394.html
Re: Mark Warner Finally Shows Up to Work
Posted by:
Doc
()
Date: November 12, 2009 09:43PM
Actually, I'm the moron. Sorry for posting such drivel. I hadn't taken my anti-depressants when I posted this morning and my boss at the Taco Bell had just finished yelling at me for letting the cheese sauce burn. I'm a fucking failure.