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Shooting at Fort Hood 11 Dead - Three gunmen
Posted by: Shooting ()
Date: November 05, 2009 03:31PM

Shooting at Fort Hood 11 Dead - Three gunmen multiple location on base

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Re: Shooting at Fort Hood 11 Dead - Three gunmen
Posted by: Johnny Walker ()
Date: November 05, 2009 03:36PM

Fort Hood, Fairfax County, Va.

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Re: Shooting at Fort Hood 11 Dead - Three gunmen
Date: November 05, 2009 03:38PM

If only everyone was armed, this never would of happened.

Oh...nevermind.

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Re: Shooting at Fort Hood 11 Dead - Three gunmen
Posted by: Gunny ()
Date: November 05, 2009 03:48PM

WashingTone-Locian Wrote:
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> If only everyone was armed, this never would of
> happened.
>
> Oh...nevermind.

Maybe they need more powerful weapons to defend themselves... oops

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Re: Shooting at Fort Hood 11 Dead - Three gunmen
Posted by: MrMephisto ()
Date: November 05, 2009 04:29PM

WashingTone-Locian Wrote:
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> If only everyone was armed, this never would of
> happened.
>
> Oh...nevermind.

The only military personnel on-base with weapons would have been the on-duty Military Police. But yes, if they were all armed, this definitely never would have happened.

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Re: Shooting at Fort Hood 11 Dead - Three gunmen
Posted by: Wow ()
Date: November 05, 2009 04:30PM

This was posted before Fox News had it, wow. Unbelievable.

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Re: Shooting at Fort Hood 11 Dead - Three gunmen
Posted by: MrMephisto ()
Date: November 05, 2009 04:34PM

9 dead, 20 wounded.

My guess is the gunmen are US soldiers.

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Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 11/05/2009 04:38PM by MrMephisto.

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Re: Shooting at Fort Hood 11 Dead - Three gunmen
Posted by: eesh ()
Date: November 05, 2009 04:34PM

As of this moment, there is a third gunman on the loose. Good luck finding him, Fort Hood is fucking enormous.

Blessed are the murderous.

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Re: Shooting at Fort Hood 11 Dead - Three gunmen
Date: November 05, 2009 04:35PM

MrMephisto Wrote:
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> WashingTone-Locian Wrote:
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> > If only everyone was armed, this never would of
> > happened.
> >
> > Oh...nevermind.
>
> The only military personnel on-base with weapons
> would have been the on-duty Military Police. But
> yes, if they were all armed, this definitely never
> would have happened.


Like the military shouldn't have seen this kind of threat...


http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/05/08/AR2007050800465.html

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Re: Shooting at Fort Hood 11 Dead - Three gunmen
Date: November 05, 2009 04:46PM

Apparently the shooting took place at a theater that was prepping for a graduation ceremony today. Heard a report that one of the shooters was an officer from the base.

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Re: Shooting at Fort Hood 11 Dead - Three gunmen
Posted by: More Complete ()
Date: November 05, 2009 04:49PM

MrMephisto Wrote:
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> My guess is the gunmen are US soldiers.

Your guess is as good as anyones but I would guess that they are NOT soldiers. For the most part military folks share a comradeship that tends to prevents something like this.

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Re: Shooting at Fort Hood 11 Dead - Three gunmen
Date: November 05, 2009 04:49PM

More Complete Wrote:
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> MrMephisto Wrote:
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> >
> > My guess is the gunmen are US soldiers.
>
> Your guess is as good as anyones but I would guess
> that they are NOT soldiers. For the most part
> military folks share a comradeship that tends to
> prevents something like this.



News just said it was an Army Major with "an Arabic sounding name."

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Re: Shooting at Fort Hood 11 Dead - Three gunmen
Date: November 05, 2009 04:52PM

12 dead. 31 wounded. One shooter is dead. Two soldiers detained as suspects. Opened up on guys getting ready to deploy.

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Re: Shooting at Fort Hood 11 Dead - Three gunmen
Posted by: eesh ()
Date: November 05, 2009 04:53PM

Fort Hood's website has crashed from all the visitors.

The shootings happened at the Soldier Readiness Center. This is where they train soldiers getting ready for deployments. The shooters were probably on some agenda like the soldier that threw the grenade in the officers' tent back in 2003.

Blessed are the murderous.

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Re: Shooting at Fort Hood 11 Dead - Three gunmen
Posted by: More Complete ()
Date: November 05, 2009 04:57PM

Report just stated that they were all US Soldiers, I stand corrected.

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Re: Shooting at Fort Hood 11 Dead - Three gunmen
Posted by: Enlisted Man ()
Date: November 05, 2009 05:03PM

This is why enlisted men should be able to carry pistols.

Or don't you trust me, Officer Dick?

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Re: Shooting at Fort Hood 11 Dead - Three gunmen
Posted by: MrMephisto ()
Date: November 05, 2009 05:07PM

Ok, how much Republican outrage will there be over Obama not addressing the shooting first thing at the Native American thing?

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Re: Shooting at Fort Hood 11 Dead - Three gunmen
Posted by: Obama ()
Date: November 05, 2009 05:25PM

It's Bush's fault.

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Re: Shooting at Fort Hood 11 Dead - Three gunmen
Posted by: RestonLass ()
Date: November 05, 2009 05:31PM

I was a military dependent and we never heard of anything like this happening on a base. This is just crazy-scary.

In the early 70s, there was some crazy stuff going at Clark AFB in the Philippines, but the instigators were the restless natives not the troops.

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Re: Shooting at Fort Hood 11 Dead - Three gunmen
Posted by: Frank ()
Date: November 05, 2009 05:38PM

MrMephisto Wrote:
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> 9 dead, 20 wounded.
>
> My guess is the gunmen are US soldiers.

No, they are Muslims pretending to be US soldiers.

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Re: Shooting at Fort Hood 11 Dead - Three gunmen
Posted by: RestonLass ()
Date: November 05, 2009 05:41PM

CONVERTED Muslims - even more dangerous.

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Re: Shooting at Fort Hood 11 Dead - Three gunmen
Posted by: pgens ()
Date: November 05, 2009 05:42PM

WashingTone-Locian Wrote:
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> If only everyone was armed, this never would of
> happened.
>
> Oh...nevermind.

Sure, we should ban guns from soldiers so there is no possibility of this extremely rare occurrence from happening, real smart. By the way, when the news says "Gunman Dead" it isn't likely he was hugged to death, he was likely shot. With a gun. That someone had on him. And Maj. Malik Hassan (or whoever of the three are dead) couldn't move on to kill more.

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Re: Shooting at Fort Hood 11 Dead - Three gunmen
Posted by: Rep. John D. Lewis (D-GA) ()
Date: November 05, 2009 05:59PM

Now I suppose the right-wing looney tunes are going to try to use this as an excuse for race-based profiling.

Not on my watch.

http://www.aclu.org/racial-justice/aclu-applauds-legislation-prohibit-race-based-profiling-customs-service

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Re: Shooting at Fort Hood 11 Dead - Three gunmen
Posted by: eesh ()
Date: November 05, 2009 06:01PM

Major Malik Nadal Hasan was the shooter; he had two handguns. Yikes, I didn't think an officer would do this.

Blessed are the murderous.

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Re: Shooting at Fort Hood 11 Dead - Three gunmen
Posted by: graymoose1 ()
Date: November 05, 2009 06:10PM

What say you Vince1?

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Re: Shooting at Fort Hood 11 Dead - Three gunmen
Posted by: TheMeeper ()
Date: November 05, 2009 06:19PM

eesh Wrote:
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> Major Malik Nadal Hasan was the shooter; he had two handguns. Yikes, I didn't think an officer would do this.


What was his major malfunction?

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Re: Shooting at Fort Hood 11 Dead - Three gunmen
Posted by: MrMephisto ()
Date: November 05, 2009 06:20PM

graymoose1 Wrote:
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> What say you Vince1?

"He worked hard... paid his taxes... we need more like him..."

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Re: Shooting at Fort Hood 11 Dead - Three gunmen
Posted by: Strangely enough ()
Date: November 05, 2009 06:27PM

TheMeeper Wrote:
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> eesh Wrote:
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> >
> > Major Malik Nadal Hasan was the shooter; he had
> two handguns. Yikes, I didn't think an officer
> would do this.
>
>
> What was his major malfunction?


Apparently he was a mental health professional — an Army psychologist or psychiatrist.

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Re: Shooting at Fort Hood 11 Dead - Three gunmen
Posted by: Frank ()
Date: November 05, 2009 06:28PM

Rep. John D. Lewis (D-GA) Wrote:
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> Now I suppose the right-wing looney tunes are
> going to try to use this as an excuse for
> race-based profiling.
>
> Not on my watch.
>
> http://www.aclu.org/racial-justice/aclu-applauds-l
> egislation-prohibit-race-based-profiling-customs-s
> ervice

Nothing to do with race, just a sick religious ideology common to billions.

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Re: Shooting at Fort Hood 11 Dead - Three gunmen
Posted by: Tiny Archibald ()
Date: November 05, 2009 06:29PM

I heard that Mahmoud Abdul Rauf and Kareem Abdul Jabbar were the other two suspects that were caught. What is this World B. Free coming to?

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Re: Shooting at Fort Hood 11 Dead - Three gunmen
Posted by: ashburn boy ()
Date: November 05, 2009 06:37PM

Frank Wrote:
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> No, they are Muslims pretending to be US soldiers.


What a bunch of racist imbeciles'. What actual knowledge do any of you have about what has or has not gone on? There are very few people that even have a clue and the rest of you hate-mongers are just using this as an excuse to show how small your little minds are. Where the hell do you get off as the voice of America? I would hope any USA loving person would reject hate filled ignorant tirades as reminders of the "good 'ol days" that some of you obviously miss. What you are saying and doing don't help anyone or bring anyone to justice or bring us closer to what really went on. So go put you f-ing sheets back on your heads, and just tell your people not to shoot up anymore museums or kill anymore innocent security guards.

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Re: Shooting at Fort Hood 11 Dead - Three gunmen
Posted by: eesh ()
Date: November 05, 2009 06:40PM

ashburn boy Wrote:
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> Frank Wrote:
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> > No, they are Muslims pretending to be US
> soldiers.
>
>
> What a bunch of racist imbeciles'. What actual
> knowledge do any of you have about what has or has
> not gone on? There are very few people that even
> have a clue and the rest of you hate-mongers are
> just using this as an excuse to show how small
> your little minds are. Where the hell do you get
> off as the voice of America? I would hope any USA
> loving person would reject hate filled ignorant
> tirades as reminders of the "good 'ol days" that
> some of you obviously miss. What you are saying
> and doing don't help anyone or bring anyone to
> justice or bring us closer to what really went on.
> So go put you f-ing sheets back on your heads, and
> just tell your people not to shoot up anymore
> museums or kill anymore innocent security guards.



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Re: Shooting at Fort Hood 11 Dead - Three gunmen
Posted by: BillyBob99 ()
Date: November 05, 2009 07:07PM

Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan - Virginia Tech grad, just another proud moment for "Hokie Nation." He's too old but I'm sure if we search long enough we can find a connection to Westfield HS.

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Re: Shooting at Fort Hood 11 Dead - Three gunmen
Posted by: Sgt Bilko ()
Date: November 05, 2009 07:11PM

I'm surprised shit like this doesn't happen more often.

They scour the trailer parks, McDonald's, and ghettos for impressionable kids that aren't too bright to start with, then indoctrinate them with a bunch of horseshit about "fightin' turrah", give them high powered weapons and turn them loose in sovereign nations that had nothing whatever to do with 9-11. War is hell, especially if it's based on a big lie.

It's predictable that a small number of them are eventually going to figure out that they are just pawns in a cynical game. And a few of them will go postal.

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Re: Shooting at Fort Hood 11 Dead - Three gunmen
Posted by: graymoose1 ()
Date: November 05, 2009 07:15PM

so, how many virgins does he get?

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Re: Shooting at Fort Hood 11 Dead - Three gunmen
Posted by: Bunk ()
Date: November 05, 2009 07:23PM

Sgt Bilko Wrote:
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> I'm surprised shit like this doesn't happen more
> often.
>
> They scour the trailer parks, McDonald's, and
> ghettos for impressionable kids that aren't too
> bright to start with, then indoctrinate them with
> a bunch of horseshit about "fightin' turrah", give
> them high powered weapons and turn them loose in
> sovereign nations that had nothing whatever to do
> with 9-11. War is hell, especially if it's based
> on a big lie.
>
> It's predictable that a small number of them are
> eventually going to figure out that they are just
> pawns in a cynical game. And a few of them will
> go postal.


Nice spin, Bilko.

Blame it on everything except the real reason -- the pernicious influence of radical Muslim ideology.

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Re: Shooting at Fort Hood 11 Dead - Three gunmen
Posted by: eesh ()
Date: November 05, 2009 07:25PM

Sgt Bilko Wrote:
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> I'm surprised shit like this doesn't happen more
> often.
>
> They scour the trailer parks, McDonald's, and
> ghettos for impressionable kids that aren't too
> bright to start with



The shooter was a VT graduate, not Bubba from an Alabama trailer park.


>
> It's predictable that a small number of them are
> eventually going to figure out that they are just
> pawns in a cynical game.


You mean like all the kids from poor countries that join Al Qaeda? Are they not pawns in a game too? Don't they recruit from the lowest classes of society?


BTW, statistically speaking, a large number of recruits in the US military come from lower middle class backgrounds. Lower middle class does not mean ghetto trailer park trash like you referred to.

Blessed are the murderous.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 11/05/2009 07:27PM by eesh.

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Re: Shooting at Fort Hood 11 Dead - Three gunmen
Posted by: InvisibleBox ()
Date: November 05, 2009 07:26PM

msnbc.com is reporting 13 as dead now....

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Re: Shooting at Fort Hood 11 Dead - Three gunmen
Posted by: saddened ()
Date: November 05, 2009 07:36PM

According to Fox News interview with the Major's cousin, he graduated from a NOVA high school but I can't find out which one...any ideas? My thoughts and prayers go out to the entire Ft. Hood family. What a sad day for the Army and all military families.

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Re: Shooting at Fort Hood 11 Dead - Three gunmen
Posted by: eesh ()
Date: November 05, 2009 07:49PM

I wonder if he used his own firearms or somehow used Army weapons. It's kinda difficult to get hold of them since they are kept locked and secured in armories.
Very few personnel have access to them, much less ammunition.

Blessed are the murderous.

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Re: Shooting at Fort Hood 11 Dead - Three gunmen
Posted by: ThePackLeader ()
Date: November 05, 2009 09:06PM

Sgt Bilko Wrote:
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> I'm surprised shit like this doesn't happen more
> often.
>
> They scour the trailer parks, McDonald's, and
> ghettos for impressionable kids that aren't too
> bright to start with, then indoctrinate them with
> a bunch of horseshit about "fightin' turrah", give
> them high powered weapons and turn them loose in
> sovereign nations that had nothing whatever to do
> with 9-11. War is hell, especially if it's based
> on a big lie.
>
> It's predictable that a small number of them are
> eventually going to figure out that they are just
> pawns in a cynical game. And a few of them will
> go postal.


Are you related to Vince?

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Re: Shooting at Fort Hood 11 Dead - Three gunmen
Posted by: ThePackLeader ()
Date: November 05, 2009 09:10PM

Gunny Wrote:
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> WashingTone-Locian Wrote:
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> > If only everyone was armed, this never would of
> > happened.
> >
> > Oh...nevermind.
>
> Maybe they need more powerful weapons to defend
> themselves... oops


You've obviously never been on a MIL base before, because weapons are HIGHLY regulated. Even when checking in at Post Hotels, you're required to check-in knives. The Armory controls any and all Firearms and Ammunition on base, even those that are privately owned must be registered with and kept at the Armory. Only the Branch-Specific Investigative Services and Base MP/SP's can carry Sidearms outside of Maneuvers. Sometimes certain Officers and Intelligence Personnel can carry as well, but it's ALL up to the Base Commander.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 11/05/2009 09:10PM by ThePackLeader.

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Re: Shooting at Fort Hood 11 Dead - Three gunmen
Posted by: TheMeeper ()
Date: November 05, 2009 09:16PM

The shooter isn't dead! Wow.

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Re: Shooting at Fort Hood 11 Dead - Three gunmen
Posted by: ThePackLeader ()
Date: November 05, 2009 09:16PM

RestonLass Wrote:
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> I was a military dependent and we never heard of
> anything like this happening on a base. This is
> just crazy-scary.
>
> In the early 70s, there was some crazy stuff going
> at Clark AFB in the Philippines, but the
> instigators were the restless natives not the
> troops.


When my Mom was on-base in Panama, they had "Peeping Toms" sometimes (Locals who would try to spy on the Americans), but that was about it. They had no assaults, or thefts. I've always felt safer on base than anywhere else imaginable, and I can freely just walk about at all hours of the night without any concern for my safety. The worst problem I ever heard of on base was a drunken fight or two, but that was about it.

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Re: Shooting at Fort Hood 11 Dead - Three gunmen
Posted by: ThePackLeader ()
Date: November 05, 2009 09:17PM

TheMeeper Wrote:
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> The shooter isn't dead! Wow.


They're saying that the DOD LEO has recovered after surgery as well. I sure hope it's for real, because that's great news.

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Re: Shooting at Fort Hood 11 Dead - Three gunmen
Posted by: Primitive Screwhead ()
Date: November 06, 2009 12:53AM

NY Times: Having counseled scores of returning soldiers with post-traumatic stress disorder, first at Walter Reed Army Medical Center in Washington and more recently at Fort Hood, he knew all too well the terrifying realities of war. “He was mortified by the idea of having to deploy,” [a cousin] said. “He had people telling him on a daily basis the horrors they saw over there.”

Comment: How does it make any ounce of sense for Maj. Hasan to claim that he wanted to avoid the trauma of being deployed yet he is able to cold-bloodedly murder his fellow soldiers in the States?


WaPo: On the rare occasions when he spoke of his work in any detail, [his] aunt said, Hasan told her of soldiers wracked by what they had seen. One patient had suffered burns to his face so intense "that his face had nearly melted," she said. "He told us how upsetting that was to him."

Comment: The poor, sad, tortured fellow can't deal with a soldier whose face was burned. Ah, but he can maim and kill dozens of people, right up close and personal. Funny, I know there's a logical inconsistency here somewhere, just can't quite put my finger on it. Maybe I can find the answer somewhere in the Koran...

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Re: Shooting at Fort Hood 11 Dead - Three gunmen
Posted by: ThePackLeader ()
Date: November 06, 2009 12:59AM

Primitive Screwhead Wrote:
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> NY Times: Having counseled scores of returning
> soldiers with post-traumatic stress disorder,
> first at Walter Reed Army Medical Center in
> Washington and more recently at Fort Hood, he knew
> all too well the terrifying realities of war. “He
> was mortified by the idea of having to deploy,”
> said. “He had people telling him on a daily basis
> the horrors they saw over there.”
>
> Comment: How does it make any ounce of sense for
> Maj. Hasan to claim that he wanted to avoid the
> trauma of being deployed yet he is able to
> cold-bloodedly murder his fellow soldiers in the
> States?
>
>
> WaPo: On the rare occasions when he spoke of his
> work in any detail, aunt said, Hasan told her of
> soldiers wracked by what they had seen. One
> patient had suffered burns to his face so intense
> "that his face had nearly melted," she said. "He
> told us how upsetting that was to him."
>
> Comment: The poor, sad, tortured fellow can't deal
> with a soldier whose face was burned. Ah, but he
> can maim and kill dozens of people, right up close
> and personal. Funny, I know there's a logical
> inconsistency here somewhere, just can't quite put
> my finger on it. Maybe I can find the answer
> somewhere in the Koran...


+1

It's like being a Hippy protestor who says that they're against violence and war, yet during their protest they smash store windows, break dozens of different laws, and deface memorials.

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Re: Shooting at Fort Hood 11 Dead - Three gunmen
Posted by: Gravis ()
Date: November 06, 2009 01:27AM

some real info
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Deadly shootings at US army base


A US army major has opened fire on fellow soldiers at the Fort Hood military base in Texas, killing 12 people and injuring 31, officials say.


Base commander Lt Gen Bob Cone said that the gunman had not been killed, as earlier stated, but was in custody.

Two other suspects were questioned, but the army now says only one gunman was involved in the incident.

Lt Gen Cone said the motive for the shooting was not known. One of the dead was a policeman, others were soldiers.

President Barack Obama described it as "a horrific outburst of violence".

Speaking at a press conference in Washington, he said: "It is difficult enough when we lose these brave men and women abroad, but it is horrifying that they should come under fire at an army base on US soil."

He extended his condolences to the families of the victims, adding: "We will make sure that we get answers to every single question about this horrible incident."


'Racial harassment'

Eleven victims were initially reported dead, but one of the injured died, bringing the death toll to 12.

The gunman has been named as Major Nidal Malik Hasan. He is now said to be wounded after being shot a number of times, but in a stable condition in custody.

"His death is not imminent," said Lt Gen Cone.

Maj Hasan, aged 39, was a military psychiatrist and was reportedly due to be sent on a mission to Iraq.

His cousin said Maj Hasan - a US-born Muslim - had been resisting such a deployment.

"He hired a military attorney to try to have the issue resolved, pay back the government, to get out of the military. He was at the end of trying everything," Nader Hasan told Fox News.

He also said that Nidal Malik Hasan had been battling racial harassment because of his "Middle Eastern ethnicity".

Prior to Fort Hood, Maj Hasan served as a psychiatrist at the Walter Reed Army Medical Center in Washington, which treats wounded troops from combat zones.


Witness' account

The shooting had begun at about 1330 (1930 GMT) on Thursday at a personnel and medical centre at Fort Hood, where soldiers who are preparing to deploy go for last-minute medical check-ups, Lt Gen Cone said.

He said the gunman had two weapons, one semi-automatic, which "might explain the rate of fire".

Asked whether the shootings were a terrorist act, Lt Gen Cone said: "I couldn't rule that out but I'm telling you that right now, the evidence does not suggest that."

Two more suspects were apprehended in an adjacent facility, he said, but eyewitness accounts suggesting there might have been more than one gunman were later discounted.

A serviceman stationed at Fort Hood who asked to remain anonymous told the BBC: "I heard the emergency announcement over the speakers outside and saw people rushing to get indoors."

Local congressman John Carter, speaking to NBC News, said gunfire had erupted half an hour before a graduation ceremony was due to begin.


Like a city

Fort Hood, near the town of Killeen, is the largest US base in the world.

Home to about 40,000 US troops, the base lies between Austin and Waco, about 60 miles (100 km) from each city.

The BBC's Adam Brookes in Washington says units at Fort Hood are among those deployed in Iraq and Afghanistan, and some will have returned from there.

The base has a centre that deals with combat stress, our correspondent adds.

Hilary Shine, of the Killeen Fire Department told the BBC's News Channel Fort Hood was like a small city.

"It has schools, a hospital, a convenience store even. And it has a large daytime population - including civilians working on the base - with as many as 80,000 in this area during the daytime."


"the wisdom of the wise will perish, the intelligence of the intelligent will vanish."095042938540

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Re: Shooting at Fort Hood 11 Dead - Three gunmen
Posted by: ThePackLeader ()
Date: November 06, 2009 01:39AM

The two original suspects were actually trying to neutralize the gunman. They ran into a building looking for him (ie, Hunting down the muji bastard). The fourth suspect, I have no idea what the deal is with him, but I got word from someone at the base that they were sending up Helos after him. He was located, apprehended, and no update has been put forth since.

I also know for a fact that rapid rifle-fire was heard, and they now officially admit that Major Haji did have a semi-auto. If he did have an AR/AK, he would've had a 30-Round Magazine, on top of a possible 15-Round Sidearm, and in such a scenario he wouldn't have even needed to re-load to cause the damage which he did. The "Two Handgun" story sounds far fetched in terms of the subsequent damage, but a Rifle and Sidearm is completely plausible.

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Date: November 06, 2009 02:12AM


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Re: Shooting at Fort Hood 11 Dead - Three gunmen
Posted by: Gravis ()
Date: November 06, 2009 02:21AM

hmm... it seems he wanted to avoid killing an fellow muslims, so he killed some infidels. fantastic. -_-;


"the wisdom of the wise will perish, the intelligence of the intelligent will vanish."095042938540

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Re: Shooting at Fort Hood 11 Dead - Three gunmen
Posted by: Interesting ()
Date: November 06, 2009 09:11AM

Gravis Wrote:
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> hmm... it seems he wanted to avoid killing an
> fellow muslims, so he killed some infidels.


The news coverage I've seen so far emphasized that he was reluctant to be deployed
because of the physical and psychological injuries he had seen in returning soldiers.

What we learn in this video casts a whole new light on his reluctance.

It shores up my intuition that the family members who have been interviewed are
spinning things wildly and suppressing facts to create as sympathetic an image of
the man as possible.

Also, someone pointed out somewhere how unlikely or exaggerated the allegations
of harassment would seem to be, given his rank of major. No one beneath that
rank would be in any position to harass him, and while there can be loose cannons,
doubtless most or all of those at or above his rank would be well-trained to
avoid giving even the appearance of religious-based harassment.

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Re: Shooting at Fort Hood 11 Dead - Three gunmen
Posted by: MrMephisto ()
Date: November 07, 2009 01:11PM

MrMephisto Wrote:
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> Ok, how much Republican outrage will there be over
> Obama not addressing the shooting first thing at
> the Native American thing?

http://www.nbcchicago.com/news/politics/A-Disconnected-President.html

Totally called it.

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Re: Shooting at Fort Hood 11 Dead - Three gunmen
Posted by: ThePackLeader ()
Date: November 07, 2009 06:52PM

MrMephisto Wrote:
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> Ok, how much Republican outrage will there be over
> Obama not addressing the shooting first thing at
> the Native American thing?


It's not just that he addressed the NA "thing" first, it's that he even thought it appropriate to act like some ignorant street bum giving "Shout outs" before taking notice of a terror attack on Ft. Hood. He's so full of himself, and he doesn't know how to act like a mature adult.

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Re: Shooting at Fort Hood 11 Dead - Three gunmen
Date: November 07, 2009 07:24PM

The guy was a mentally ill loser. He was 39-years-old and had no wife. He had an MD but even the military only let him practice in a clinical setting for one year. He had poor performance reviews. He wanted out of the military, yet was being deployed to Afghanistan. He was a failure and he needed an excuse for his failures. That excuse was his religious beliefs.

Now, before you think I have changed my mind and am blaming Islam, I am not. I am blaming this asshole, who is a failure, for killing people and using Islam has his excuse.

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Re: Shooting at Fort Hood 11 Dead - Three gunmen
Posted by: MrMephisto ()
Date: November 07, 2009 08:18PM

ThePackLeader Wrote:
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> It's not just that he addressed the NA "thing"
> first, it's that he even thought it appropriate to
> act like some ignorant street bum giving "Shout
> outs" before taking notice of a terror attack on
> Ft. Hood. He's so full of himself, and he doesn't
> know how to act like a mature adult.

Oh, come on. It was a pre-scheduled event. I didn't see anything wrong with him acknowledging the people who were there to see him and make a statement for teir organization before addressing the shootings. If he had just jumped right into the shootings, an article would be written saying he doesn't care about Native Americans.

He looked rather distraught, so I'm willing to give him a pass. That's not an easy situation to be in as president, I would imagine.

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Re: Shooting at Fort Hood 11 Dead - Three gunmen
Posted by: eesh ()
Date: November 24, 2009 03:11PM

*bump*

Latest News: http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D9C5JJHO0&show_article=1

Major Hasan's attorney is considering a temporary insanity defense as he engaged in "conduct that is completely contradictory to his lifestyle and military career."

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