There are many many people who would like to see this site shuttered for good. The Morenos, Leisers, David Trinnes, Meade and a few people I know with security clearances who are registered users to name but a few. How much longer can the fun last?

Never give in. Never surrender.

Fuck off Miz, or whoever you are. This site is good entertainment and isn't going anywhere. Sharon Moreno does not have a security clearance, and she and Miz both love the site as an excuse to bait and antagonize eesh. Leisers don't care at all, and Trinnes actually referred to this drama in his official bio. I seriously doubt anyone with a security clearance would post here.

Even if it did go away, and you were under review/getting a clearance, wouldn't you still have to report your usage on this site on the paperwork?

sf-86 Wrote:
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> Even if it did go away, and you were under
> review/getting a clearance, wouldn't you still
> have to report your usage on this site on the
> paperwork?

No. Usage of this site or any other does not need to be reported, ipso facto. You would report online interactions with foreign persons, with the same conditions/caveats as if they were in-person interactions.

not reportable Wrote:
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> sf-86 Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Even if it did go away, and you were under
> > review/getting a clearance, wouldn't you still
> > have to report your usage on this site on the
> > paperwork?
>
> No. Usage of this site or any other does not need
> to be reported, ipso facto. You would report
> online interactions with foreign persons, with the
> same conditions/caveats as if they were in-person
> interactions.


For how long though? we'll have to wait and see where the Consolidated Appropriations Act lands on the matter of social media and consequentially "public forums" like the under ground.

https://news.clearancejobs.com/2016/02/24/hold-a-security-clearance-using-facebook-can-cost-you-your-job/

This only applies to publicly-available information. That means anything that can be seen without a password. Unless you are a suspect in a criminal investigation, you will not be asked for your password. More to the point, there is no requirement to disclose your user name or on-line "handles" when filling out the paperwork for an investigation or reinvestigation. So theoretically you can post here as "Goatfuckerer2" and not be required to disclose it. If, however, an investigator became aware during the course of the investigation that you posted questionable material here using that name, they would definitely ask you for an explanation.

Furthermore, if someone such as Sharon Moreno had a clearance, and posted here after being banned in violation of the rules, they would be asked to explain themselves--if and only if the investigator somehow got wind of it. Anything posted to the public is fair game.

enemies in all quarters Wrote:
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> There are many many people who would like to see
> this site shuttered for good. The Morenos,
> Leisers, David Trinnes, Meade and a few people I
> know with security clearances who are registered
> users to name but a few. How much longer can the
> fun last?


Till eesh hangs himself.

Metaphorically or literary.

clarification Wrote:
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> This only applies to publicly-available
> information. That means anything that can be seen
> without a password. Unless you are a suspect in a
> criminal investigation, you will not be asked for
> your password. More to the point, there is no
> requirement to disclose your user name or on-line
> "handles" when filling out the paperwork for an
> investigation or reinvestigation. So
> theoretically you can post here as "Goatfuckerer2"
> and not be required to disclose it. If, however,
> an investigator became aware during the course of
> the investigation that you posted questionable
> material here using that name, they would
> definitely ask you for an explanation.
>
> Furthermore, if someone such as Sharon Moreno had
> a clearance, and posted here after being banned in
> violation of the rules, they would be asked to
> explain themselves--if and only if the
> investigator somehow got wind of it. Anything
> posted to the public is fair game.


Isnt everyone here in suspicion of being a suspect of investigation?

say what? Wrote:
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> enemies in all quarters Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > There are many many people who would like to
> see
> > this site shuttered for good. The Morenos,
> > Leisers, David Trinnes, Meade and a few people
> I
> > know with security clearances who are
> registered
> > users to name but a few. How much longer can
> the
> > fun last?
>
>
> Till Miz hangs himself.
>
> Metaphorically or literary.

FIFY.

Miz has a history of being suicidal, which is usually a good indicator he will try again. All the other characters including eesh for the most part like the forum.

In addition to suicides, there is a good chance that when Lizzie is released from jail there will be some violence which may result in the death of her the other party. But there is no guarantee that Miz's suicide or some killing related to the site would cause it to be shut down.
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^^^^that pic is gold...."Lizzie I have ligature marks...do you want to see them...look what you made me do..." FUCKING AWESOME. LMFAO!

Pure gold. One of the greatest moments in FXU history.
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clarification Wrote:
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> This only applies to publicly-available
> information. That means anything that can be seen
> without a password. Unless you are a suspect in a
> criminal investigation, you will not be asked for
> your password. More to the point, there is no
> requirement to disclose your user name or on-line
> "handles" when filling out the paperwork for an
> investigation or reinvestigation. So
> theoretically you can post here as "Goatfuckerer2"
> and not be required to disclose it. If, however,
> an investigator became aware during the course of
> the investigation that you posted questionable
> material here using that name, they would
> definitely ask you for an explanation.
>
> Furthermore, if someone such as Sharon Moreno had
> a clearance, and posted here after being banned in
> violation of the rules, they would be asked to
> explain themselves--if and only if the
> investigator somehow got wind of it. Anything
> posted to the public is fair game.


Doesn't this count as "publicly available?". Can you imagine if eesh was applying for a clearance,and they did ask for his internet activity, including handles and passwords? That would be a very interesting conversation when they asked him about all of his posts on ffxu.

solidification Wrote:
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> clarification Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > This only applies to publicly-available
> > information. That means anything that can be
> seen
> > without a password. Unless you are a suspect in
> a
> > criminal investigation, you will not be asked
> for
> > your password. More to the point, there is no
> > requirement to disclose your user name or
> on-line
> > "handles" when filling out the paperwork for an
> > investigation or reinvestigation. So
> > theoretically you can post here as
> "Goatfuckerer2"
> > and not be required to disclose it. If,
> however,
> > an investigator became aware during the course
> of
> > the investigation that you posted questionable
> > material here using that name, they would
> > definitely ask you for an explanation.
> >
> > Furthermore, if someone such as Sharon Moreno
> had
> > a clearance, and posted here after being banned
> in
> > violation of the rules, they would be asked to
> > explain themselves--if and only if the
> > investigator somehow got wind of it. Anything
> > posted to the public is fair game.
>
>
> Doesn't this count as "publicly available?". Can
> you imagine if eesh was applying for a
> clearance,and they did ask for his internet
> activity, including handles and passwords? That
> would be a very interesting conversation when they
> asked him about all of his posts on ffxu.

Again, they will not ask for passwords unless a crime has been committed. They won't ask for usernames either, but in eesh's case that is publicly known. Eesh hasn't been banned, so unless he posted photos of him engaging in illegal activity, there's no problem.

People most often get questioned about photos of them drinking while underage and using drugs.

I'm completely sure this site is a giant honeypot.

The location of the servers, the constant political shilling without any purpose or goal, the abrupt change in "cary"s writing style.

Helpinstill, meade, cary. Even the names sound fake.

People have been threatening this site for years, nothing happened. this site is actually pretty good now, the discussions are both informative and accurate. Back in the day when guys like tuttle, washingtonelocain, bloody blisters, conie, frisky dingo and lizzie with miz were here this site really hit the low skids and sucked. It was gotten a lot better since they varmoused like varmits

The incarceration of Lizzie has done wonders. That made a huge difference and the site is 200% better now that she is gone. Miz still posts here regularly, but he usually gets shut down pretty quick when he crosses the line. His ongoing baiting and provocation of eesh is a bit annoying though.

Back in the day if you were not part of the clique here, the "Misery/Tuttle/conie/wtL" clique, you were not even acknowledged by them. Miz got too powerful and power will corrupt

not going away, sorry Wrote:
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> Fuck off Miz, or whoever you are. This site is
> good entertainment and isn't going anywhere.
> Sharon Moreno does not have a security clearance,
> and she and Miz both love the site as an excuse to
> bait and antagonize eesh. Leisers don't care at
> all, and Trinnes actually referred to this drama
> in his official bio. I seriously doubt anyone with
> a security clearance would post here.

https://www.cbc-law.com/team-members/david-m-trinnes/

Mr. Trinnes obtained one of the largest jury verdicts ever awarded for online harassment on behalf of his clients in Moreno v. Basl, et al., CL96073-00, (Loudoun Cir. Ct. 2016) (Stalking, Defamation, Intentional Infliction of Emotional Distress – $1,355,907.88 awarded by a jury). During this case he utilized evidence in computer and digital forensics to obtain numerous sanctions and spoliation findings for intentional destruction of evidence by the adverse party.

He's bragging about beating somebody who is too poor to afford an attorney. In his defense, eesh did get absolutely raped. $1,355,907.88 OMFG!

It's more than just bragging about winning a case against someone too poor to afford an attorney. He's effectively bragging that he took money from clients when they had absolutely nothing to gain, regardless of the verdict. That shows his greed and lack of concern for clients' best interests.

"These are good people!!! these are good god fearing people!"

never happen Wrote:
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> People have been threatening this site for years,
> nothing happened. this site is actually pretty
> good now, the discussions are both informative and
> accurate. Back in the day when guys like tuttle,
> washingtonelocain, bloody blisters, conie, frisky
> dingo and lizzie with miz were here this site
> really hit the low skids and sucked. It was
> gotten a lot better since they varmoused like
> varmits


So true. They all pretty much sucked. Treated this like their personal playground. Once we anons took over and drove them out, this place improved noticeably.

never say never Wrote:
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> never happen Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > People have been threatening this site for
> years,
> > nothing happened. this site is actually pretty
> > good now, the discussions are both informative
> and
> > accurate. Back in the day when guys like
> tuttle,
> > washingtonelocain, bloody blisters, conie,
> frisky
> > dingo and lizzie with miz were here this site
> > really hit the low skids and sucked. It was
> > gotten a lot better since they varmoused like
> > varmits
>
>
> So true. They all pretty much sucked. Treated
> this like their personal playground. Once we
> anons took over and drove them out, this place
> improved noticeably.


and we did take over, big tough guy tomahawk used to criticize the anon poster, but where is he now? He used to act like tomahawk was his true identity, what a dreeb. I'm still waiting for some of the old niks to post so I can give them what for,

getting worried Wrote:
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> not reportable Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > sf-86 Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Even if it did go away, and you were under
> > > review/getting a clearance, wouldn't you
> still
> > > have to report your usage on this site on the
> > > paperwork?
> >
> > No. Usage of this site or any other does not
> need
> > to be reported, ipso facto. You would report
> > online interactions with foreign persons, with
> the
> > same conditions/caveats as if they were
> in-person
> > interactions.
>
>
> For how long though? we'll have to wait and see
> where the Consolidated Appropriations Act lands on
> the matter of social media and consequentially
> "public forums" like the under ground.
>
> https://news.clearancejobs.com/2016/02/24/hold-a-s
> ecurity-clearance-using-facebook-can-cost-you-your
> -job/


it's true, people have lost their jobs over that

HOWEVER.

None of the anonymous posters ever agreed with FFU to "share information of or spy upon users", as FFU has no mechanism to spit out such a crooked legal form.

the fact is USA has been promoting more and more privacy and anonymity of government workers and agencies

any claim citizens have no right of anonymity but big business and gov and rich DO ...

will fail

It was Bill Clinton presidency that turned the internet and traceability into a LAN you attach to regulated by police and your local politicians

They tore down traceability so crooks like them could hide from the public.

I ALWAYS HOPE WHEN I INSULT THEM THEY WILL FLIP AND CHALLENGE ME. UNFORTUNATELY THEY HAVEN'T.

hang in there Miz Wrote:
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>
> In addition to suicides, there is a good chance
> that when Lizzie is released from jail there will
> be some violence which may result in the death of
> her the other party. But there is no guarantee
> that Miz's suicide or some killing related to the
> site would cause it to be shut down.


Lizze goes to confront miz, things get ugly, lizzie loses her shit and reflexively shoots miz. Police converge, and the little monkey realizes she's going back to the can for life. She decides to go out in a 'blaze of glory' ( I seem to recall she was using such terminology right before her 9/11 chimpout) and engages SWAT team in a shootout.

Thsi would not cause FFU to shut down; however, the moronos might try to sue FFU. (Won't work, but the lawyers would get some much-needed money.)

ntynu Wrote:
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> not going away, sorry Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Fuck off Miz, or whoever you are. This site is
> > good entertainment and isn't going anywhere.
> > Sharon Moreno does not have a security
> clearance,
> > and she and Miz both love the site as an excuse
> to
> > bait and antagonize eesh. Leisers don't care at
> > all, and Trinnes actually referred to this
> drama
> > in his official bio. I seriously doubt
> anyone with
> > a security clearance would post here.
>
> https://www.cbc-law.com/team-members/david-m-trinn
> es/
>
> Mr. Trinnes obtained one of the largest jury
> verdicts ever awarded for online harassment on
> behalf of his clients in Moreno v. Basl, et al.,
> CL96073-00, (Loudoun Cir. Ct. 2016) (Stalking,
> Defamation, Intentional Infliction of Emotional
> Distress – $1,355,907.88 awarded by a jury).
> During this case he utilized evidence in computer
> and digital forensics to obtain numerous sanctions
> and spoliation findings for intentional
> destruction of evidence by the adverse party.
>
>
> He's bragging about beating somebody who is too
> poor to afford an attorney. In his defense, eesh
> did get absolutely raped. $1,355,907.88 OMFG!

Trinnes' picture could easily be part of a submitted portfolio for casting of a Batman movie -- YES you guessed it "THE JOKER"

cftnv Wrote:

>
> I ALWAYS HOPE WHEN I INSULT THEM THEY WILL FLIP
> AND CHALLENGE ME. UNFORTUNATELY THEY HAVEN'T.
>

They haven't because like the rest of the world, they don't give a shit about you or your opinions.

You just ain't that important to the scheme of things.

>
> Mr. Trinnes obtained one of the largest jury
> verdicts ever awarded for online harassment on
> behalf of his clients in Moreno v. Basl, et al.,
> CL96073-00, (Loudoun Cir. Ct. 2016) (Stalking,
> Defamation, Intentional Infliction of Emotional
> Distress – $1,355,907.88 awarded by a jury).
> During this case he utilized evidence in computer
> and digital forensics to obtain numerous sanctions
> and spoliation findings for intentional
> destruction of evidence by the adverse party.
>


Ha ha. The cocksucker getting greased by a retard and another cocksucker is going to be a part of elementary case study in law schools throughout the nation.

Lawyers will remember the name Michael Josef Basl (it will be on the final exam) as the troll who supertrolled himself.

Dumbfucker

dumfuck trolled himself Wrote:
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> >
> > Mr. Trinnes obtained one of the largest jury
> > verdicts ever awarded for online harassment on
> > behalf of his clients in Moreno v. Basl, et
> al.,
> > CL96073-00, (Loudoun Cir. Ct. 2016) (Stalking,
> > Defamation, Intentional Infliction of Emotional
> > Distress – $1,355,907.88 awarded by a jury).
> > During this case he utilized evidence in
> computer
> > and digital forensics to obtain numerous
> sanctions
> > and spoliation findings for intentional
> > destruction of evidence by the adverse party.
> >
>
>
> Ha ha. The cocksucker getting greased by a retard
> and another cocksucker is going to be a part of
> elementary case study in law schools throughout
> the nation.
>
> Lawyers will remember the name Michael Josef Basl
> (it will be on the final exam) as the troll who
> supertrolled himself.
>
> Dumbfucker

The legal community will remember how a local law firm bilked a gullible elderly couple out of thousands of dollars on a worthless lawsuit.

Sorry, but because it was an "unopposed victory" and no precedents were set, the case won't make it into any law school curricula. The case had no merit and would never have moved forward if the defendant had had legal counsel. Moreover it is highly likely the verdict will eventually be striken or discharged.

David Trinnes is free to brag to the general public as if he "won", but the case was as worthless as the verdict. The hourly fees collected from the Morenos paid for a couple months of drinking for Trinnes, and that's about it.

Lawyers will remember what? Wrote:

> David Trinnes is free to brag to the general
> public as if he "won", but the case was as
> worthless as the verdict. The hourly fees
> collected from the Morenos paid for a couple
> months of drinking for Trinnes, and that's about
> it.

You forget, there might be a Miata with a personalized license plate that reads.
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It made eesh an infamous loser. Remember, it went viral. On the web and b&w.
Reality still exists. You can deny, deflect, and blame all you want but nothing is different

vindicated

reality bites Wrote:
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> It made eesh an infamous loser. Remember, it went
> viral. On the web and b&w.
> Reality still exists. You can deny, deflect, and
> blame all you want but nothing is different


It is long ago in internet time... people have moved on and couldn't care less...heck people have moved on from 'daddy of five' and that was just two months ago....whereas the Morenos have fucked their nest-egg up for life...
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Eesh (anon) and his teen boy toy continuously post about the players involved. They still stew over the loss but deny reality.
As to the retards spending their retirement, well, it was worth it to them (Sharon via Wapo). Eesh is broker than them. He will lose the house when daddy passes and will walk the streets with a shit stained mattress tied to his back.

He lost to losers. Anything else said is bullshit.

Stick that up your ass and smoke it

Hey Miz you must feel like Gerry2, being the FFXU punching bag. LOLZ!

and the survey says Wrote:
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> Eesh (anon) and his teen boy toy continuously post
> about the players involved. They still stew over
> the loss but deny reality.
> As to the retards spending their retirement, well,
> it was worth it to them (Sharon via Wapo). Eesh is
> broker than them. He will lose the house when
> daddy passes and will walk the streets with a shit
> stained mattress tied to his back.
>
> He lost to losers. Anything else said is bullshit.
>
>
> Stick that up your ass and smoke it

The shit-stained mattress belongs to Miz (see attached pic). It's an interesting question who is "broker". Eesh has to keep his income off the books lest the Morenos attempt to levy it. The Morenos for their part have to pay their shyster attorney every time they make another fruitless attempt to squeeze anything from eesh. This will continue until eventually the judgment is reversed or discharged in bankruptcy, either of which be yet another cost for the Morenos.

Even when the Morenos "win", what have they won? If it wasn't about the money, what did they accomplish? They showed they could pay tens of thousands of dollars to a sleazy law firm and get a worthless judgment against a defendant without an attorney. In the process they exposed themselves for being stalkers, liars, criminals, and general scumbags. Then William decided to shack up with another convicted pedophile, which removed any doubt whatsoever that Miz's posts were in fact indicative of his true nature all along.

Regardless of the verdict, the Morenos are definitely the losers in this war.
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not guilty Wrote:
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> clarification Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > This only applies to publicly-available
> > information. That means anything that can be
> seen
> > without a password. Unless you are a suspect in
> a
> > criminal investigation, you will not be asked
> for
> > your password. More to the point, there is no
> > requirement to disclose your user name or
> on-line
> > "handles" when filling out the paperwork for an
> > investigation or reinvestigation. So
> > theoretically you can post here as
> "Goatfuckerer2"
> > and not be required to disclose it. If,
> however,
> > an investigator became aware during the course
> of
> > the investigation that you posted questionable
> > material here using that name, they would
> > definitely ask you for an explanation.
> >
> > Furthermore, if someone such as Sharon Moreno
> had
> > a clearance, and posted here after being banned
> in
> > violation of the rules, they would be asked to
> > explain themselves--if and only if the
> > investigator somehow got wind of it. Anything
> > posted to the public is fair game.
>
>
> Isnt everyone here in suspicion of being a suspect
> of investigation?


Some of these people haves ties to Russia. If that's what you mean.....

hang in there Miz Wrote:
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> when Lizzie is released from jail there will
> be some violence

...