How will we fund the 20 billion dollar wall?

How will we fund mass deportation?

What is the plan for replacing ACA and how much will it cost?

Russia is taunting us with military maneuvers and wont budge on Crimea - what is the President doing about this?

Where is the investigation into massive voter fraud and how much will it cost?

Why are we spending 3 million per weekend for trips to FL; why are we paying $500,000 per DAY to keep the 1st lady and Baron in a building our President owns?

When does the investigation into Russia's attack on the US this past election year commence?

Lets start with the basics and move forward from there. Does Trump know his ass from a hole in the ground?

Does Gerry the beta boi know that Mommy wants him to wash his ass before his shift at 7-11?

Gerrymanderer2 Wrote:
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> Lets start with the basics and move forward from
> there. Does Trump know his ass from a hole in the
> ground?


You know Gerry - you are the problem. So easily baited into the insults. Who cares if you like or dont like him? Ad hominem is the weakest position on Trump. People didnt like Obama because he was black, fuck them and fuck you Gerry.

Focus on the issues dumbass.

I'm not insulting anyone, I'm very serious. Does Trump know his ass from a hole in the ground? Trump lives in his own delusions, he's not a fact based or reality based individual. He has a variety of mental and personality disorders that drives his thought process. He doesn't operate mentally within the confines of the Constitution, our laws and our treaties.

That's one of the reasons he needs conflict to operate. Right now it remains domestic, he's still running for office for some reason. What's very troubling is when he pivots to foreign policy and searches for that conflict to feed his narcissistic personality with foreign conflicts.

Beta Shitstained Sandnigger say what?

Gerrymanderer2 Wrote:
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> I'm not insulting anyone, I'm very serious. Does
> Trump know his ass from a hole in the ground?
> Trump lives in his own delusions, he's not a fact
> based or reality based individual. He has a
> variety of mental and personality disorders that
> drives his thought process. He doesn't operate
> mentally within the confines of the Constitution,
> our laws and our treaties.

So look at the result of your statement - you help misdirect focus on real issues to an amorphous evaluation of the President mental state. Im very liberal and I hate you more than any conservative here. Fuck off idiot.

Why were there not these concerns when black people were spending our taxpayer dollars like niggers at Harbor Thing?

Trump could save billions if he stops paying the professional brood sows welfare money.

Wouldn't anyone rather see a glorious border wall rather than having fatherless, ignorant , violent savages running around?

cPhHm Wrote:
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> How will we fund the 20 billion dollar wall? Taxes on remittances that mexicans send home, plus entry fees.
>
> How will we fund mass deportation? Seize assets acquired by the illegals while living here, plus any ill gotten gains the criminal Mexicans have acquired.
>
> What is the plan for replacing ACA and how much
> will it cost? Everyone is covered by a Medicare style plan. Doctors bill directly to a payment clearing house run by a public/private concern. Coverage is paid for by a tax on "food" that is deemed to be unhealthy (they tax cigs and booze like this). Most fast food, sugary sodas, chips, etc etc would have a tax added - the tax going directly to the clearing house fund just mentioned. Veggie and fruits, etc would be tax free and possibly even subsidized. Hey we gotta do something about this lard ass nation we've become.
>
> Russia is taunting us with military maneuvers and
> wont budge on Crimea - what is the President doing
> about this? Fuck Russia and China. Serve notice that we're not going to police the world, however, if our interests are infringed upon then we will respond appropriately. And then do so (no more fake lines in the sand like queerbait Obama did with Syria).
>
> Where is the investigation into massive voter
> fraud and how much will it cost? Once again, fuck it. If Hillary was committing fraud they need to wrap that shit in with her email debacle and add a few years to her sentence.
>
> Why are we spending 3 million per weekend for
> trips to FL; why are we paying $500,000 per DAY to
> keep the 1st lady and Baron in a building our
> President owns? Bullshit. If it costs 500k a day to watch the building in New York I will suck your dick and give you half an hour to sell tickets to the show. This is more like fake BS media crap again. I don't believe it. As far as Mar-A-Lago, he's the president, he can go where he wants. 3 mil is probably another lie though.
>
> When does the investigation into Russia's attack
> on the US this past election year commence? Attack? What attack? All I saw was some rube (Podesta) getting his email looked into because he didn't have enough brains to create a secure password.

Reasonable questions.



cPhHm Wrote:
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> How will we fund the 20 billion dollar wall?

We may have to eat the $$ and add it on to our deficit, but it is deemed an emergency and acceptable. Over just 3 or 4 years the 20 billion will be recouped at least twice over through new trade agreements (Penalties) for Mexico and the money saved on welfare / benefits for illegals. Add to that the money saved by deporting illegals or housing them in our jails.

Overall, a few years and it will actually be making our country money.


> How will we fund mass deportation?

Unfortunately, there will be no mass deportation. There will be a high peak, my guess in in mid 2018, but even then the vast majority of deportations will still be criminals.

Once SINGLE people are being deported, the numbers will go up. That will be the peak and my guess is maybe around half (5 million or so) of illegals will be gone.

The cost will be high in the beginning, but like above in your first question, the actions will actually make our country money in the long run. Think of the above points + educating, feeding, housing and medical care NO LONGER being needed due to illegal immigration slowing to a trickle.


> What is the plan for replacing ACA and how much
> will it cost?

This one is interesting. The cost is irrelevant if it is better. The new health care is supposed to keep some of the good from the ACA (No preexisting conditions or term limits) while bringing the costs down and benefits up.

If our government resists acting like children and work together, forcing competition between health providers (Much like Trump did with the military contracts) then we should get what was promised.

This one I highly doubt will make it through the swamp and to the people. I just do not see our government putting aside their personal party bullshit and actually coming through for the country.


> Russia is taunting us with military maneuvers and
> wont budge on Crimea - what is the President doing
> about this?

The POTUS is very calculated on this. I am guessing with a lot of advice from our military leaders. First of all, if the EU and NATO have not done anything about Crimea, then why on earth should we? Maybe let Russia have that little piece of the pie to allow for a relationship to develop between the USA and them.

Wiping out the radical groups of Islam will be so easy with a partner like Russia - Russia is not as diplomatic in their "Rules of engagement" as the majority of first world countries. Letting Russia loose on the ME would be great for the world.

As for the "taunting" - that is all just fluff. Putin has to look tough to his people and we are big enough to let some shit slide. We are talking about bigger goals and more important long term enemies.

Add that Russia would do the majority of the combat themselves and we save trillions upon trillions while still eradicating the world of radical (Plus most moderate) Islam.

The world is now waking up to the fact that Islam is the greatest threat to all civilizations worldwide. I would even guess that nukes will be used at some point. I wish we could save the children (Who have no fault in where they were born) and the peaceful Islamists, but that is just no longer an option.


> Where is the investigation into massive voter
> fraud and how much will it cost?

There will be some investigation and I would say all the illegal voting will be found out. The numbers may climb to a couple million, but no where near what they are expecting.

The POTUS should have been more reasonable about this issue in the first place. Just to investigate with the intentions of cleaning up the voting system overall.

It will cost too much and result in less than expected - fail fail for the POTUS.



> Why are we spending 3 million per weekend for
> trips to FL; why are we paying $500,000 per DAY to
> keep the 1st lady and Baron in a building our
> President owns?

Those numbers are wrong, but it does not really matter too much. Every POTUS wastes tons of money going anywhere. Whether it is on vacation, a trip to meet a leader from another country (When a phone call would have been enough) or to visit the site of any national disaster. This POTUS has been very good about using a phone and skipping the unneeded "Respectful" face to face meetings. He has also cut a lot of money from the usual expenses a POTUS is granted in general.



> When does the investigation into Russia's attack
> on the US this past election year commence?


First, it was not an attack on the USA. The Russians hacked the DNC successfully and were unsuccessful in hacking the RNC. The Russians put out little to no information at all. Why? Because they found little information in the first place.

The CIA, DHS, FBI etc.....should waste no time investigating this at all. If the DNC or RNC want to raise THEIR OWN MONEY (Not tax payers) and investigate, they can on their own.

As much as people would like to think it changed the election, it did not.

Now, the Snowden / Podesta information destroyed the DNC because factual information was released that proved mass corruption. Simply put, if the DNC had never did anything illegal and corrupt, there would have been nothing to release. This is not "Russian hacking" information, only information Snowden had. The fact he was in Russia is irrelevant. He could have been in Canada and the DNC corruption would still have been shown to be exactly the same.




Further on the costs of everything. I think the way we interact as a country will change drastically. For example - the money seized from drug cartels will be evidence for as long as it takes to count it, then directly used by the US government. I hope underhanded shit happens a lot that we never hear about, like selling a few captured drug lords back to their countries for billions in cash a person. Fuck that ethical shit. We catch Nacho Gomez and his Nicaraguan drug cartel offer 10 billion for him back, YES we do it and as many times as we catch them. Even sell back the seized drugs - valued at 5 billion, we will sell it back to them at 7 billion, fuck ethics. Maybe even seize the same 5 billion worth again and sell it back again. Why pay to house Nacho Gomez in our prisons or burn 5 billion in drugs?

The gangs being dismantled in this country alone will equate to billions saved over a few years. The criminals being taken out of our schools so they can function properly will save billions. Basically, getting crime out of everyday life, instead of throwing money at it and hoping things get better, will pay off big time.

The cost of taking care of 1 illegal immigrant - of housing 1 illegal immigrant criminal - of deporting 1 illegal immigrant and so on, which is now in the millions, which costs us trillions - will be almost gone completely. So, in just a year or two we are talking about trillions of funds not being used for these purposes.

I agree that the first year or two will be tough and the wall will be costly, but the results from the legal reforms, criminal expulsions, illegal expulsions, mass self deportation (This will happen) and illegal immigration slowed to near nothing will have the intended results. These results include the trillions, multiplied every year, put back into our country.

The best part is those trillions can be spent on things the USA WANTS to INVEST in verse being FORCED to WASTE on account of an incompetent government who has implemented horrible immigration policy and has passed the bill (and crime) to the citizens of this nation.

they'll bitch about a 20 billion dollar wall, but won't bat an eye at 20 billion in welfare to illegal aliens.

wHPLY Wrote:
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>
> Overall, a few years and it will actually be
> making our country money.
>
>
>


Yes, because walls work and pay taxes to the federal government.

Answerman Wrote:
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> cPhHm Wrote:
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> > How will we fund the 20 billion dollar wall?
> Taxes on remittances that mexicans send home, plus
> entry fees. so a tax on international banking transfers - great idea we should tax all offshore transfers of cash
> >
> > How will we fund mass deportation? Seize assets
> acquired by the illegals while living here, plus
> any ill gotten gains the criminal Mexicans have
> acquired.I doubt the 'assets' of illegal immigrants will cover the costs of detaining and deporting 11 million people - 12 year honda accords wouldnt cover airfare for a family

> >
> > Russia is taunting us with military maneuvers
> and
> > wont budge on Crimea - what is the President
> doing
> > about this? Fuck Russia and China. Serve notice
> that we're not going to police the world, however,
> if our interests are infringed upon then we will
> respond appropriately. And then do so (no more
> fake lines in the sand like queerbait Obama did
> with Syria).so far Trump is crying like a bitch about nuclear holocaust and letting Russia ass-fuck us daily
> >
> > Where is the investigation into massive voter
> > fraud and how much will it cost? Once again,
> fuck it. If Hillary was committing fraud they need
> to wrap that shit in with her email debacle and
> add a few years to her sentence.didnt answer
> >
> > Why are we spending 3 million per weekend for
> > trips to FL; why are we paying $500,000 per DAY
> to
> > keep the 1st lady and Baron in a building our
> > President owns? Bullshit. If it costs 500k a day
> to watch the building in New York I will suck your
> dick and give you half an hour to sell tickets to
> the show. This is more like fake BS media crap
> again. I don't believe it. As far as Mar-A-Lago,
> he's the president, he can go where he wants. 3
> mil is probably another lie though.

Those numbers are from Judicial Watch - a conservative watchdog group http://www.businessinsider.com/cost-of-protecting-trump-secret-service-2017-2

Three trips to Mar-a-Lago since Trump's inauguration may have cost about $10 million, based on a government report from October that analyzed White House travel, The Post said. The expenses include the cost of US Coast Guard patrol boats on the shoreline.

Palm Beach County officials say they will request reimbursement of tens of thousands of dollars per day from the White House for their deputies who provided security and logistical support around the city.

Police officials estimate that it would cost New York $500,000 a day, or $183 million a year, to guard Trump Tower, where first lady Melania Trump and son Barron Trump live.

Secret Service and US embassy employees paid about $100,000 in hotel room bills during Eric Trump's trip to Uruguay, where he promoted a Trump-branded building.
If the Pentagon secures rental space in Trump Tower — needed for when the president returns to New York — it could cost $1.5 million per year, according to the building's website.

moron Wrote:
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> wHPLY Wrote:
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> > Overall, a few years and it will actually be
> > making our country money.
> >
> >
> >
>
>
> Yes, because walls work and pay taxes to the
> federal government.


you must be fucking ignorant

the wall will:

stop 90% of new illegals
resulting in trillions saved on housing, feeding, medical, educating.....the next few millions of illegals

add that we will not be paying for hunting them, judicial services, jailing, deporting millions more

add the mass tariffs on and unsent aide to Mexico, that is billions more

add the amount of money not being sent back across the border (millions) + money seized from drug cartels + jobs taken by illegals going back to citizens + the taxes from those citizens now doing the jobs legally

and you get 100X the 20 billion back + more in just a few years

if you do not understand basic math and economics, then just stfu

You Spend 20 Billion..And Build the Wall..Since when did 20 bil stop Obama from doing anything?? He got a trillion squandered on Obamacare!!

The Wall is MUCHO MUCH MORE IMPORTANT!!

kYtWp Wrote:
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> moron Wrote:
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> > wHPLY Wrote:
> >
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> > -----
> > >
> > > Overall, a few years and it will actually be
> > > making our country money.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > Yes, because walls work and pay taxes to the
> > federal government.
>
>
> you must be fucking ignorant
>
> the wall will:
>
> stop 90% of new illegalsmost illegals simply overstay legal visits or visas - so wrong
> resulting in trillions saved on housing, feeding,
> medical, educating.....the next few millions of
> illegalsbarely qualifies as English but wrong again (see point above)
>
> add that we will not be paying for hunting them,
> judicial services, jailing, deporting millions
> more part a = wrong (see above) part b wrong, you will need to 'hunt, detain adn deport them estimates are at 20 Billion
>
> add the mass tariffs on and unsent aide to Mexico,
> that is billions moretariffs and trade wars are not unilateral; increased inflation and lost jobs would occur here in the us in a trade war like that with our #2 trade partner
>
> add the amount of money not being sent back across
> the border (millions) + money seized from drug
> cartels + jobs taken by illegals going back to
> citizens + the taxes from those citizens now doing
> the jobs legally
>
> and you get 100X the 20 billion back + more in
> just a few yearsno see above
>
> if you do not understand basic math and economics,
> then just stfu

you sir are quite ignorant of basic statistics and economics.

would self harm or carving his name into someones body work

40 percent of illegal immigration is the result of over staying visas. Lets say you spend 50 billion dollars and build the great wall of Trump and reduce cross border illegal immigration by 80 percent. You'll still have only addressed half of a problem that wasn't significant to begin with.

You can just make Trumps companies stop hiring illegal immigrants and they would go home.

And actually Mexican illegal immigration has been net negative as of recent.

Gerrymanderer2 Wrote:
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> 40 percent of illegal immigration is the result of
> over staying visas. Lets say you spend 50 billion
> dollars and build the great wall of Trump and
> reduce cross border illegal immigration by 80
> percent. You'll still have only addressed half of
> a problem that wasn't significant to begin with.
>
> You can just make Trumps companies stop hiring
> illegal immigrants and they would go home.


$50 billion for 80% is a no brainer. If Trump makes that happen he will be the Greatest President in the modern era. That will pay for itself very quickly, which will cost mexico's billionaire ruling elite big time. Truly it is mexico who will pay dearly for the wall, and rightly so.

80 percent of 60 percent is still only 50 percent.

for 50 billion, when for a couple billion you could enforce e-verify and the Mexicans show a propensity for leaving when there's no work.

You idiots are building walls when your elite are the ones hiring them. Including your motherfucking president. Youre fucking being scammed, there will be no wall to begin with. Stop being distracted by a visual you ________.

What the fuck is wrong with you, gerry?
Get yourself to a hospital. YOU ARE SICK

Gerrymanderer2 Wrote:
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> You idiots are building walls when your elite are
> the ones hiring them. Including your
> motherfucking president. Youre fucking being
> scammed, there will be no wall to begin with.
> Stop being distracted by a visual you ________.
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Ive said this before but it bears saying again, Im VERY liberal on social issues and I swear to Christ I fucking hate Gerry - you alone could push me to the dark side. You beat the dead horse to the point I would support Trump. You are mentally ill. If you are not simply eesh posting under another screen name you certainly could be.

Gerrymanderer2 Wrote:
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> And actually Mexican illegal immigration has been
> net negative as of recent.


That's great, then the wall will make net negative mucu bigger. Trump is a genius!

kYtWp Wrote:
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>
>
> add the mass tariffs on and unsent aide to Mexico,
> that is billions more



Mexico will just charge us more for the products to offset the tariffs. You obviously never took micro and macro economics.


>
> add the amount of money not being sent back across
> the border (millions)



What about all the money these illegals spend on rent, food, entertainment and gas in the US, dummy? That will be gone as well.



> jobs taken by illegals going back to
> citizens + >



Americans don't want those jobs and most of those jobs are off the books, because they are illegal aliens, so blame the American corporations illegally employing them; besides, most of those will be outsourced to temporary foreign labors with j4 visas, because it's cheaper than paying Americans and many of them will be Mexicans, who will continue to live in Mexico, come over the border legally to work and still take their money back to Mexico. You obviously don't know how the migrant farmer programs in California and the Southwest work, because they already do this there, moron.



> and you get 100X the 20 billion back + more in
> just a few years
>
>


No, we won't; take your idiotic Trump "logic" and shove it up your ass, dumb ass.

Time for Trump to.go jail for treason. What to do with the rest of his traitor supporters?

Gerrymanderer2 Wrote:
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> Time for Trump to.go jail for treason. What to do
> with the rest of his traitor supporters?


Advocating civil unrest on a community forum. Not too smart buddy.

Unrest? Trump is a traitor "buddy." He is under FBI and Senate investigations. He had front companies for contacts with Russian intel during his campaign. Trump is going to jail. And you supported a traitor. And you still promote and support a traitor.

Sweden and Jefferson and the Media are the enemy of the people isn't going to distract that he is the enemy of the people, he's a traitor. And all you Trumptards are doing at this point is potentially being complicit in high crimes.

Gerrymanderer2 Wrote:
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> Unrest? Trump is a traitor "buddy." He is under
> FBI and Senate investigations. He had front
> companies for contacts with Russian intel during
> his campaign. Trump is going to jail. And you
> supported a traitor. And you still promote and
> support a traitor.


you're trying to incite civil unrest it's blatantly obvious. Hopefully some 3 letter agency will be having a chat with you soon.

The more I ear about this wall, the more I like it. I'm not a big Trump fan, but trying to keep an open mind.

see something say something Wrote:
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> Gerrymanderer2 Wrote:
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> > Unrest? Trump is a traitor "buddy." He is
> under
> > FBI and Senate investigations. He had front
> > companies for contacts with Russian intel
> during
> > his campaign. Trump is going to jail. And you
> > supported a traitor. And you still promote and
> > support a traitor.
>
>
> you're trying to incite civil unrest it's
> blatantly obvious. Hopefully some 3 letter agency
> will be having a chat with you soon.

How do you know I'm not a three letter agency? Maybe I'll pay you a visit.

lol, is that a threat? Nice, another thing to add to my anonymous tip

now you sound like eesh.

I just sound fucking STUPID as usual.

Gerrymanderer2 Wrote:
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> Lets start with the basics and move forward from
> there. Does Trump know his ass from a hole in the
> ground?


Basics:

Trump ran for and won the office of the President of the United States

Gerry runs his mouth and has never done or won a single thing in his short life worthy of note