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Kim Jong Un’s Estranged Brother Murdered in Malaysia
Posted by: Ludwig ()
Date: February 14, 2017 10:42AM

https://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2017-02-14/kim-jong-un-s-half-brother-murdered-in-malaysia-yonhap-says

Kim Jong Un’s Estranged Brother Murdered in Malaysia

by Sam Kim and Kanga Kong
February 14, 2017, 6:39 AM EST February 14, 2017, 9:41 AM EST
Murder involved poison, South Korean government official says
Kim Jong Nam killed by women with needle at airport: report

The oldest half-brother of North Korean dictator Kim Jong Un was murdered in Malaysia on Monday, according to a South Korean government official.

Kim Jong Nam, the eldest son of former leader Kim Jong Il, had lived outside the country for years. The official, who asked not to be identified due to government policy, said poison was involved in his death, but provided no other details.

Two unidentified women killed Kim Jong Nam at Kuala Lumpur’s airport with a poison needle before fleeing in a taxi, YTN television station reported, citing a government source. Malaysia’s police didn’t immediately respond to a request for comment.


Kim Jong Nam, aged in his mid 40s, fell out of favor with his father after he was caught trying to enter Japan using a fake Dominican Republic passport in 2001, according to Japanese reporter Yoji Gomi, who wrote a book about him. Kim Jong Nam had been critical of Kim Jong Un, reportedly saying in 2012 that he “won’t last long” because of his youth and inexperience. The two brothers have different mothers.

It appeared as if Kim Jong Un was behind the murder, according to Kim Young-woo, a South Korean lawmaker who leads the National Assembly’s national-defense committee. He didn’t cite any specific evidence to back up that view.

Macau Trip

“You don’t remove someone who has been wandering around away from home for a long time -- without being up to anything important really -- out of the blue,” Kim Young-woo said. It indicates that Kim Jong Nam had followers and his brother “felt insecure about it," he said.

Kim Jong Nam was waiting to board a flight to Macau when he fell ill suddenly, the Associated Press reported, citing Malaysian district police chief Abdul Aziz Ali. His body is in the forensic department of Putrajaya Hospital to undergo a post-mortem examination, AP said, citing a staff member it didn’t identify.

News of the murder comes two days after Kim Jong Un test-fired a ballistic missile as part of efforts to develop North Korea’s nuclear-weapons capability. The provocation drew a rebuke from the United Nations Security Council, with U.S. President Donald Trump vowing to deal with the threat “very strongly.”

Kim Paranoia

North Korea remains largely cut off from the world, with information tightly controlled by the government. Kim has carried out a series of executions since taking power in 2011, the most high profile of which was the 2013 killing of his uncle and one-time deputy Jang Song Thaek.


Kim Jong Nam was born in 1971 to a mother who was forced by Kim Jong Il to leave her husband and live with the dictator, according to Cheong Seong-chang, a North Korea leadership analyst at Sejong Institute near Seoul. For that reason, Kim Jong Nam was considered an illegitimate son and grew up in seclusion and loneliness, Cheong said.

While Kim Jong Nam enrolled in an international school in Geneva in 1980, his grandmother brought him back to Pyongyang in his late teens because he started to frequent bars, Cheong said.

If Kim Jong Nam was killed by a North Korean spy, it indicates that Kim Jong Un felt a sense of paranoia about his own future and wanted to remove any potential successors, according to Namkoong Young, who has been teaching inter-Korean politics at Hankuk University of Foreign Studies for more than 25 years.

“Jong Nam has been in exile for years away from North’s politics for a long time but he is still the eldest son of Kim Jong Il,” Namkoong said. “And if there was any move or plan by some elite there to have him replace Jong Un, he probably should be removed.”

A spokesperson for South Korea’s unification ministry declined to comment. Malaysia’s foreign ministry is still waiting for information from the police on the identity of the deceased man, a spokeswoman said via text message. The death is under the purview of the home affairs ministry, she said.

Kim Jong Un had about 50 officials executed in 2014 on charges ranging from graft to watching South Korean soap operas. Two senior officials were executed with an anti-aircraft gun in August last year on Kim’s orders, South Korea’s JoongAng Ilbo newspaper reported, citing people it did not identify.

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Re: Kim Jong Un’s Estranged Brother Murdered in Malaysia
Posted by: eesh ()
Date: February 14, 2017 04:27PM

The truth is probably more boring than the conspiracy theories. He could have been involved in a drug deal gone bad, or owed money to some hookers.

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Re: Kim Jong Un’s Estranged Brother Murdered in Malaysia
Posted by: Reality Checked. ()
Date: February 14, 2017 04:51PM

eesh Wrote:
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> The truth is probably more boring than the
> conspiracy theories. He could have been involved
> in a drug deal gone bad, or owed money to some
> hookers.

At an airport? Ya, no. This was almost certainly a hit. Certain foreign countries were grooming Kim Jong Nam to assume the throne if Kim Jong Eun were to suddenly "disappear."

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Re: Kim Jong Un’s Estranged Brother Murdered in Malaysia
Posted by: fyi, ()
Date: February 14, 2017 04:54PM

Just letting you know I reported this thread. We already have 4 fucking threads on this lobby alone about this. We don't need anymore.

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Re: Kim Jong Un’s Estranged Brother Murdered in Malaysia
Posted by: eesh ()
Date: February 14, 2017 04:56PM

fyi, Wrote:
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> Just letting you know I reported this thread. We
> already have 4 fucking threads on this lobby alone
> about this. We don't need anymore.




Wasn't Ludwig's thread the first?

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Re: Kim Jong Un’s Estranged Brother Murdered in Malaysia
Posted by: Thread still alive ()
Date: February 14, 2017 04:57PM

fyi, Wrote:
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> Just letting you know I reported this thread. We
> already have 4 fucking threads on this lobby alone
> about this. We don't need anymore.

Wait, what? Reported the thread? Have you seen the threads on EEsh, Miz, Meade, Lizzie? Maybe report them.

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Re: Kim Jong Un’s Estranged Brother Murdered in Malaysia
Posted by: Ludwig ()
Date: February 14, 2017 05:03PM

eesh Wrote:
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> The truth is probably more boring than the
> conspiracy theories. He could have been involved
> in a drug deal gone bad, or owed money to some
> hookers.



Now that you mentioned it, he was a heavy gambler.

More information on his death................

Kim Jong Un's half-brother apparently assassinated in Malaysian airport

JAKARTA, Indonesia — The older half-brother of North Korean leader Kim Jong Un died after being attacked at Kuala Lumpur International Airport by a woman who covered his face with a liquid, Malaysian police said Tuesday in what appears to have been an assassination carried out by a North Korean agent.

Malaysian police official Fadzil Ahmat told Bernama, a Malaysian news site, that the victim was Kim Jong Nam, who was at the airport to catch a flight to Macau, China, when he was attacked.

"While waiting for the flight, a woman came from behind and covered his face with a cloth laced with a liquid," Fadzil said. "Following this, the man was seen struggling for help and managed to obtain the assistance of (an airport) receptionist as his eyes suffered burns as a result of the liquid. Moments later, he was sent to the Putrajaya Hospital, where he was confirmed dead.”

Kim Jong Nam, who was 46 according to a police report, was the eldest son of North Korean leader Kim Jong Il, and was at one time considered the heir apparent to rule the isolated country, which has been governed by three generations of the Kim family.

In 2001, he was arrested at Tokyo’s Narita Airport after trying to enter Japan on a forged passport from the Dominican Republic. He told police he wanted to visit Tokyo Disneyland.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2017/02/14/north-korean-leaders-half-brother-reported-assassinated-malaysia/97886974/

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Re: Kim Jong Un’s Estranged Brother Murdered in Malaysia
Posted by: Ludwig ()
Date: February 16, 2017 11:09AM

2 more people arrested in mysterious death of Kim Jong Un's half-brother

By Ben Westcott and Joshua Berlinger, CNN
Updated 8:38 AM ET, Thu February 16, 2017

(CNN)Two more people have been arrested in connection with the death of North Korean leader Kim Jong Un's half brother, Malaysian authorities said.

News of the arrests come a day after South Korean's National Assembly Intelligence Committee chairman said Kim Jong Nam died Monday morning after being poisoned at the airport.
A 26-year-old Malaysian man, who is the boyfriend of another suspect, was arrested Wednesday in the city of Anpang, Selangor State Police Chief Abdul Samah Mat said.
He helped lead police to his girlfriend, Mat said.
She was arrested carrying an Indonesian passport at about 2 a.m. Thursday local time, the Royal Malaysian Police said in a statement.
Indonesia's Ministry of Foreign Affairs confirmed she is a national of the country and is requesting consular access.
Police did not say where she was detained, only that she had been identified on closed circuit TV footage from Kuala Lumpur International Airport, and was alone at the time of her arrest.

A man watches a television showing news reports of Kim Jong Nam, the half-brother of North Korean leader Kim Jong Un, in Seoul on February 14, 2017.
The first arrest was made on Wednesday when a woman carrying a Vietnamese travel document was taken into custody by police at the airport. Both women have been remanded in custody for seven days, according to police.
The Vietnamese Ministry of Foreign Affairs did not confirm to CNN whether the woman was a Vietnamese citizen.
"Our Vietnamese relevant authorities are working closely with their Malaysian counterparts to clarify the information," Nguyen Phuong Tra, an official with the ministry, said in an emailed statement to CNN.
Mat later confirmed to CNN that a still image from closed circuit television, which was published in the Malay Mail, showed one of the female suspects in Sepang on Monday.

Speaking to the press Thursday, Malaysian Deputy Prime Minister Ahmad Zahid Hamidi said the North Korean embassy in Malaysia had confirmed Kim Jong Nam's identity. Kim had been traveling with two passports, under the name Kim Chol.
North Korea has requested Kim's body through the embassy and Malaysia would comply once the autopsy was complete, Hamidi said. He added that no next of kin had asked for the body.
When asked about reports alleging North Korea's involvement in Kim's death, Hamidi said it was "only speculation."


Who killed Kim Jong Nam? 02:42
How it happened
Kim was about to board a flight to Macau, a Chinese territory, to see his family, when he was killed.
It is still unclear who attacked him and how, but South Korean's National Assembly Intelligence Committee Chairman Lee Cheol Woo told a press briefing Wednesday that Kim had been attacked by "two Asian women."
He didn't reveal how South Korea knew this or how Kim had been poisoned.
Kim went to a counter at the Kuala Lumpur airport asking for help, Royal Malaysia Police said.
A Malaysian official told CNN that he was then taken to an airport clinic, which decided to send him to the hospital. He died en route.

Many unsubstantiated reports of how Kim was attacked have been circulated since his death, but so far Malaysian police have revealed few details.
An autopsy of Kim's remains was completed on Wednesday evening, according to reports by Malaysian state media, but his cause of death was still unknown on Thursday morning.
Sepang District Police chief ACP Abdul Aziz Ali told local media he wouldn't comment on what the autopsy revealed or when Kim's remains would be claimed from the hospital.

A car with a North Korean flag was seen entering the hospital mortuary on Tuesday, prior to the autopsy, but the North Korean Embassy in Malaysia has so far said they have no information about the murder.
Kim's death has not been publicized in North Korea and is unlikely to be, given political sensitivities, according to CNN's Will Ripley, who is in Pyongyang.

Kim's fall from grace
Kim Jong Nam was born in 1971 to former North Korean leader Kim Jong Il's favored mistress Song Hye Rim.
He was the North Korean dictator's eldest son.
Current leader Kim Jong Un was born years later to another mistress, Ko Yong Hui.
He was for a time the most public of all Kim Jong Il's sons but reportedly lost his father's favor after using forged documents to try to visit Tokyo Disneyland in 2001.

The brothers never met due to the North Korean practice of keeping heirs separate but Kim Jong Nam told Japanese author Yoji Gomi that he didn't think his younger sibling was up to leading the country.
After he left North Korea, the elder Kim sibling gained a reputation as an international playboy who was willing to speak openly about his family.
His absence from his father's funeral in 2011 fueled rumors he had been banished from North Korea.
"He spoke out against his father's 'military first' police," Gomi told CNN in 2012. "He wants North Korea to embrace economic reform and open its doors."

http://www.cnn.com/2017/02/16/asia/kim-jong-nam-arrests-autopsy/



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 02/16/2017 11:12AM by Ludwig.

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Re: Kim Jong Un’s Estranged Brother Murdered in Malaysia
Posted by: Doesn't Play Games ()
Date: February 16, 2017 11:24AM

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Re: Kim Jong Un’s Estranged Brother Murdered in Malaysia
Posted by: Tom Vu ()
Date: February 16, 2017 11:42PM

RIP my brother!!

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Re: Kim Jong Un’s Estranged Brother Murdered in Malaysia
Posted by: nYu9C ()
Date: February 17, 2017 07:04PM


the USA jewmedia is too quick to blame his brother

it could be propaganda not planned by his brother

it could be an attack by south korea

it could have been for revenge. that part of the word is not exactly "safe" ... and on that matter many USA presidents have had assasination *attempts*

it well could have been for extortion

or even a debt owed


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Re: Kim Jong Un’s Estranged Brother Murdered in Malaysia
Posted by: E7v7n ()
Date: February 17, 2017 07:09PM

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WHO WILL OBAMA SEND TO MEET KIM JONG UN ?

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Re: Kim Jong Un’s Estranged Brother Murdered in Malaysia
Posted by: UjJXK ()
Date: February 17, 2017 07:10PM

who will Trump send to meet Kim Jong Un ?

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Re: Kim Jong Un’s Estranged Brother Murdered in Malaysia
Posted by: Ludwig ()
Date: February 17, 2017 09:31PM

Body just got cold and then this happens.............

North Korea will ‘categorically reject’ autopsy of leader’s half brother by Malaysia

By Anna Fifield February 17 at 3:56 PM
KUALA LUMPUR, Malaysia — A diplomatic row is erupting over the body of Kim Jong Nam, the North Korean leader’s half brother, with Malaysia insisting on DNA identification before handing over the corpse and North Korea threatening to sue.

The sensational assassination of Kim Jong Un’s estranged half brother — perhaps ordered by the North Korean leader himself — grew more dramatic Friday when authorities began a verbal tug of war over the body.

North Korea will “categorically reject” the results of the autopsy, which was performed over its objections and with its officials excluded, said Kang Chol, the North Korean ambassador here. He called for the body, whose identity he did not mention, to be released immediately.

Because Kim Jong Nam was traveling on a diplomatic passport — actually, he had four of them — he was under North Korea’s consular protection, Kang said in a late-night statement read to reporters waiting outside the hospital morgue where Kim Jong Nam’s body lies.

Using language usually reserved for enemies rather than relatively friendly Malaysia, Kang said that the Malaysian government was acting on the orders of South Korea to “conceal something.”

North Korea would “respond strongly to the moves of the hostile forces toward us with their intent to besmirch the image of our republic, by politicizing this incident,” and would sue Malaysia in an international court,” he said.

North Korean diplomats in Kuala Lumpur tried to stop the autopsy on Kim Jong Nam, who was killed in an apparent poisoning attack by two women in a busy terminal of Kuala Lumpur International Airport on Monday morning.

The autopsy was completed Thursday night, although the results have not been released.


Earlier Friday, Malaysian police said that the body would not be handed over to the North Korean Embassy until a family member could supply a matching DNA sample.

Such a sample most probably would come from one of Kim Jong Nam’s children — he is thought to have six. But so far, no family member or next of kin has come forward to identify or claim the body, said Khalid Abu Bakar, Malaysia’s inspector general of police.

North Korea’s ruling Kim family is a highly secretive dynasty. The totalitarian state tightly controls information about the family, which has kept a grip on the country for three generations: from Kim Il Sung, the founding president, through Kim Jong Il, the father of both Kim Jong Nam, who was 46, and the current leader, Kim Jong Un, who is 33.

Ordinary North Koreans, starved of outside information, do not even know about the existence of Kim Jong Nam, the love child of a secret relationship between Kim Jong Il and his actress consort. So they have certainly not been told of his death, which many analysts and officials in the region have blamed on Kim Jong Un and his quest to eliminate potential rivals.


Because the country is so reclusive, intelligence on North Korea is minimal, and the North Korean regime will probably balk at the prospect of Malaysia — and potentially other intelligence services — having DNA information from the ruling family.

But Deputy Prime Minister Ahmad Zahid Hamidi told reporters Thursday that Malaysia would release the body only after the official procedures are followed.

“After all the police and medical procedures are completed, we may release the body to the next of kin through the embassy,” he said.

The sharp tone underscores the shock in Kuala Lumpur that the killing happened on its soil.

Malaysia is one of the very few countries that does not require a visa for North Koreans, so this is a popular destination for them. There is a significant amount of trade between North Korea and Malaysia, and about 300 North Korean miners work in Sarawak.

Kuala Lumpur has also been the site for several “track two” meetings between North Koreans and former U.S. officials because it is a neutral place that does not require a lot of paperwork for the North Koreans.


Kim, who had lived outside North Korea for some 15 years, was at Kuala Lumpur airport Monday morning to catch a flight to Macau, where he has a home and family. But two women ambushed him, spraying liquid on his face, at the check-in kiosks. He sought help and was put in an ambulance, but died on the way to a hospital.

Two women — one Vietnamese, the other Indonesian — have been arrested on suspicion of carrying out the attack, while the latter’s Malaysian boyfriend, thought to be driving the getaway taxi, has been arrested to “assist” with the investigation.

CCTV footage suggested that the women, along with four men believed to be the masterminds of the attack, cased the airport the day before the attack, laughing “playfully” and even spraying liquid on each other in a joking way, according to local media reports.

The Vietnamese woman, identified as 28-year-old Doan Thi Huong, reportedly told police that she was tricked into taking part in the attack, which she said she thought was a prank.

Indonesian newspapers offered a similar explanation for the other woman, 25-year-old Siti Aishah. One reported that she was approached by a mysterious man at a Kuala Lumpur nightclub and offered $100 to be involved in a “prank” that was rehearsed in the airport.

“Such an action was done three or four times and they were given a few dollars for it, and with the last target, Kim Jong Nam, allegedly there were dangerous materials in the sprayer,” Indonesia’s national police chief, Tito Karnavian, told reporters in Jakarta. “She was not aware that it was an assassination attempt by alleged foreign agents.”

If North Korea was behind the killing, it was surprisingly amateurish for the regime, which has a history of using elite agents in such attacks. But the three suspects were quickly apprehended, with Huong, apparently abandoned by the others, arrested when she returned to the same airport terminal to take a flight to Vietnam.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/north-koreans-must-supply-kim-family-dna-if-they-want-body-back/2017/02/17/aaee15b8-f4a7-11e6-9fb1-2d8f3fc9c0ed_story.html?utm_term=.25363b83a599

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