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Where the the anti-war protests go?
Posted by:
war vet
()
Date: September 05, 2009 05:10PM
Remember when people used to protest the Iraq war? Even BEFORE the war started, there was a massive protest. There have not been any protests in awhile. What happened? WHy don't people protest the war anymore? I can't find an anti-war demonstration anywhere, even in D.C.
ur thoughts?
ur thoughts?
Re: Where the the anti-war protests go?
Posted by:
MrMephisto
()
Date: September 05, 2009 05:15PM
Because they're stupid enough to think that Obama will actually do anything about the wars.
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Re: Where the the anti-war protests go?
Posted by:
Harry Tuttle
()
Date: September 05, 2009 05:23PM
You could always start one...
Re: Where the the anti-war protests go?
Posted by:
Johnny Walker
()
Date: September 05, 2009 05:37PM
Because once the war actually started, a lot of people who went to them became disillusioned and the protests got smaller and smaller.
Re: Where the the anti-war protests go?
Posted by:
Vince(1)
()
Date: September 05, 2009 07:39PM
The protest movement was never large enough nor effective enough to hold the attention of the typical American. Now that we have right wing paranoia making the headlines dont expect to hear to much until the fall. When the right wing "steals" the issue of the war from the left it will start to get news covergae again.
Registered Voter...a Big talking coward..big man on FFXU...little man in life.
Registered Voter...a Big talking coward..big man on FFXU...little man in life.
Re: Where the the anti-war protests go?
Posted by:
John Kerry
()
Date: September 05, 2009 08:52PM
The anti-war "protests" were comprised of a nutjob named Cindy Sheehan and
her followers who are perceived as being mentally unstable. Most people realize
by now that she (Cindy) is crazy.
her followers who are perceived as being mentally unstable. Most people realize
by now that she (Cindy) is crazy.
Re: Where the the anti-war protests go?
Posted by:
WashingTone-Locian
()
Date: September 05, 2009 10:27PM
war vet Wrote:
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> Remember when people used to protest the Iraq war?
> Even BEFORE the war started, there was a massive
> protest. There have not been any protests in
> awhile. What happened? WHy don't people protest
> the war anymore? I can't find an anti-war
> demonstration anywhere, even in D.C.
>
> ur thoughts?
Twitter.
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> Remember when people used to protest the Iraq war?
> Even BEFORE the war started, there was a massive
> protest. There have not been any protests in
> awhile. What happened? WHy don't people protest
> the war anymore? I can't find an anti-war
> demonstration anywhere, even in D.C.
>
> ur thoughts?
Twitter.
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http://bible.cc/1_corinthians/13-11.htm
Re: Where the the anti-war protests go?
Posted by:
bloody blisters
()
Date: September 05, 2009 10:32PM
WashingTone-Locian Wrote:
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> war vet Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Remember when people used to protest the Iraq
> war?
> > Even BEFORE the war started, there was a
> massive
> > protest. There have not been any protests in
> > awhile. What happened? WHy don't people protest
> > the war anymore? I can't find an anti-war
> > demonstration anywhere, even in D.C.
> >
> > ur thoughts?
>
>
> Twitterverse.
now Mephisto will kill you
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> war vet Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Remember when people used to protest the Iraq
> war?
> > Even BEFORE the war started, there was a
> massive
> > protest. There have not been any protests in
> > awhile. What happened? WHy don't people protest
> > the war anymore? I can't find an anti-war
> > demonstration anywhere, even in D.C.
> >
> > ur thoughts?
>
>
> Twitterverse.
now Mephisto will kill you
Re: Where the the anti-war protests go?
Posted by:
Registered Voter
()
Date: September 06, 2009 01:47PM
The folks are too busy making money selling weapons overseas...
U.S. Share of Worldwide Arms Market Grows
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/09/07/world/07weapons.html?partner=rss&emc=rss
Well, it's good to know at least come of our oil money is being used to fuel businesses at home.
U.S. Share of Worldwide Arms Market Grows
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/09/07/world/07weapons.html?partner=rss&emc=rss
Well, it's good to know at least come of our oil money is being used to fuel businesses at home.
Re: Where the the anti-war protests go?
Posted by:
Gravis
()
Date: September 06, 2009 02:24PM
it's simple, the war is a footnote in the media. without media coverage, nobody will ever hear you. besides, protesting has stopped how many wars?
"the wisdom of the wise will perish, the intelligence of the intelligent will vanish."
"the wisdom of the wise will perish, the intelligence of the intelligent will vanish."
Re: Where the the anti-war protests go?
Posted by:
Vince(1)
()
Date: September 06, 2009 03:32PM
Im sure someone will disagree (big surprise)...one, Vietnam. Plus protesting has had a wider impact then just stopping wars..just look at your recent town hall meetings.
Registered Voter...a Big talking coward..big man on FFXU...little man in life.
Registered Voter...a Big talking coward..big man on FFXU...little man in life.
Re: Where the the anti-war protests go?
Posted by:
Johnny Walker
()
Date: September 06, 2009 06:56PM
John Kerry Wrote:
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> The anti-war "protests" were comprised of a nutjob
> named Cindy Sheehan and
> her followers who are perceived as being mentally
> unstable. Most people realize
> by now that she (Cindy) is crazy.
No most of the major protests are/were from ANSWER, a group that is in support of North Korea's Stalinist policies. It's unfortunate they were the only game in town that could get the number of protesters they did. I volunteered with them for a bit and it was weird. They were not interested in peaceful messages, but more focused on American Imerialism (BLAME AMERICA!), which I think turned a lot of people who would otherwise be interested off. They had/have an agenda and it has nothing to do with ending the war.
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> The anti-war "protests" were comprised of a nutjob
> named Cindy Sheehan and
> her followers who are perceived as being mentally
> unstable. Most people realize
> by now that she (Cindy) is crazy.
No most of the major protests are/were from ANSWER, a group that is in support of North Korea's Stalinist policies. It's unfortunate they were the only game in town that could get the number of protesters they did. I volunteered with them for a bit and it was weird. They were not interested in peaceful messages, but more focused on American Imerialism (BLAME AMERICA!), which I think turned a lot of people who would otherwise be interested off. They had/have an agenda and it has nothing to do with ending the war.
Re: Where the the anti-war protests go?
Posted by:
ThePackLeader
()
Date: September 07, 2009 02:32AM
war vet Wrote:
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> Remember when people used to protest the Iraq war?
> Even BEFORE the war started, there was a massive
> protest. There have not been any protests in
> awhile. What happened? WHy don't people protest
> the war anymore? I can't find an anti-war
> demonstration anywhere, even in D.C.
>
> ur thoughts?
Because all of the "Anti-War" protestors were rightfully shot and dumped into the Anacostia River where they belong. Bunch of filthy punk-bred Hippies, always clogging traffic and disrespecting the MIL.
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> Remember when people used to protest the Iraq war?
> Even BEFORE the war started, there was a massive
> protest. There have not been any protests in
> awhile. What happened? WHy don't people protest
> the war anymore? I can't find an anti-war
> demonstration anywhere, even in D.C.
>
> ur thoughts?
Because all of the "Anti-War" protestors were rightfully shot and dumped into the Anacostia River where they belong. Bunch of filthy punk-bred Hippies, always clogging traffic and disrespecting the MIL.
Re: Where the the anti-war protests go?
Posted by:
ThePackLeader
()
Date: September 07, 2009 02:34AM
Vince(1) Wrote:
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> Im sure someone will disagree (big
> surprise)...one, Vietnam. Plus protesting has had
> a wider impact then just stopping wars..just look
> at your recent town hall meetings.
Yeah, but the Town Hall "protestors" aren't putting down the Men and Women serving our Nation. They are lashing back at the massive number of stupid Politicians currently in power on the Hill.
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> Im sure someone will disagree (big
> surprise)...one, Vietnam. Plus protesting has had
> a wider impact then just stopping wars..just look
> at your recent town hall meetings.
Yeah, but the Town Hall "protestors" aren't putting down the Men and Women serving our Nation. They are lashing back at the massive number of stupid Politicians currently in power on the Hill.
Re: Where the the anti-war protests go?
Posted by:
ThePackLeader
()
Date: September 07, 2009 02:36AM
Vince(1) Wrote:
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> The protest movement was never large enough nor
> effective enough to hold the attention of the
> typical American. Now that we have right wing
> paranoia making the headlines dont expect to hear
> to much until the fall. When the right wing
> "steals" the issue of the war from the left it
> will start to get news covergae again.
The "Right Wing" is basically composed of those individuals who support our Military Efforts, and our MIL. In other words, most of the individuals actually doing anything about our current War are in fact "Right Wingers".
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> The protest movement was never large enough nor
> effective enough to hold the attention of the
> typical American. Now that we have right wing
> paranoia making the headlines dont expect to hear
> to much until the fall. When the right wing
> "steals" the issue of the war from the left it
> will start to get news covergae again.
The "Right Wing" is basically composed of those individuals who support our Military Efforts, and our MIL. In other words, most of the individuals actually doing anything about our current War are in fact "Right Wingers".
Re: Where the the anti-war protests go?
Posted by:
Melissa
()
Date: September 07, 2009 09:49AM
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Being vague is almost as fun as that other thing.
Re: Where the the anti-war protests go?
Posted by:
Jerry Rubin
()
Date: September 07, 2009 10:46AM
Vince(1) Wrote:
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> Im sure someone will disagree (big
> surprise)...one, Vietnam. Plus protesting has had
> a wider impact then just stopping wars..just look
> at your recent town hall meetings.
There you go again. Protests against the Vietnam War had very little impact
on public opinion if any. During the 1968 Tet Offensive, the media began
showing live combat for the first time. That is what started changing public
opinion against the war. Are you planning on building a monument to
draft dodgers on Constitution Avenue?
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> Im sure someone will disagree (big
> surprise)...one, Vietnam. Plus protesting has had
> a wider impact then just stopping wars..just look
> at your recent town hall meetings.
There you go again. Protests against the Vietnam War had very little impact
on public opinion if any. During the 1968 Tet Offensive, the media began
showing live combat for the first time. That is what started changing public
opinion against the war. Are you planning on building a monument to
draft dodgers on Constitution Avenue?
Re: Where the the anti-war protests go?
Posted by:
Don't be a buster
()
Date: September 07, 2009 10:47AM
Registered Voter, you aren't fooling anyone with that Jerry Rubin name.
Re: Where the the anti-war protests go?
Posted by:
Jerry Rubin
()
Date: September 07, 2009 11:30AM
Don't be a buster Wrote:
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> Registered Voter, you aren't fooling anyone with
> that Jerry Rubin name.
Sorry, but I'm not RV.
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> Registered Voter, you aren't fooling anyone with
> that Jerry Rubin name.
Sorry, but I'm not RV.
Re: Where the the anti-war protests go?
Posted by:
Vince(1)
()
Date: September 07, 2009 01:22PM
Jerry Rubin Wrote:
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> Vince(1) Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Im sure someone will disagree (big
> > surprise)...one, Vietnam. Plus protesting has
> had
> > a wider impact then just stopping wars..just
> look
> > at your recent town hall meetings.
>
> There you go again. Protests against the Vietnam
> War had very little impact
> on public opinion if any. During the 1968 Tet
> Offensive, the media began
> showing live combat for the first time. That is
> what started changing public
> opinion against the war. Are you planning on
> building a monument to
> draft dodgers on Constitution Avenue?
Without the protests we'd still be in Vietnam fighting an "insurgency". As far as Im concerned the only reason we are still in Iraq and Afghanistan is the lack of an effective protest movement. In the fall when the republican machine turns against Obama's War maybe they can get those teabaggers out to protest...after all the war is a major deficit buster. If they do..maybe I'll join them.
Registered Voter...a Big talking coward..big man on FFXU...little man in life.
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> Vince(1) Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Im sure someone will disagree (big
> > surprise)...one, Vietnam. Plus protesting has
> had
> > a wider impact then just stopping wars..just
> look
> > at your recent town hall meetings.
>
> There you go again. Protests against the Vietnam
> War had very little impact
> on public opinion if any. During the 1968 Tet
> Offensive, the media began
> showing live combat for the first time. That is
> what started changing public
> opinion against the war. Are you planning on
> building a monument to
> draft dodgers on Constitution Avenue?
Without the protests we'd still be in Vietnam fighting an "insurgency". As far as Im concerned the only reason we are still in Iraq and Afghanistan is the lack of an effective protest movement. In the fall when the republican machine turns against Obama's War maybe they can get those teabaggers out to protest...after all the war is a major deficit buster. If they do..maybe I'll join them.
Registered Voter...a Big talking coward..big man on FFXU...little man in life.
Re: Where the the anti-war protests go?
Posted by:
Jerry Rubin
()
Date: September 07, 2009 03:44PM
Vince(1) Wrote:
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> Jerry Rubin Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Vince(1) Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Im sure someone will disagree (big
> > > surprise)...one, Vietnam. Plus protesting
> has
> > had
> > > a wider impact then just stopping wars..just
> > look
> > > at your recent town hall meetings.
> >
> > There you go again. Protests against the
> Vietnam
> > War had very little impact
> > on public opinion if any. During the 1968 Tet
> > Offensive, the media began
> > showing live combat for the first time. That is
> > what started changing public
> > opinion against the war. Are you planning on
> > building a monument to
> > draft dodgers on Constitution Avenue?
>
> Without the protests we'd still be in Vietnam
> fighting an "insurgency". As far as Im concerned
> the only reason we are still in Iraq and
> Afghanistan is the lack of an effective protest
> movement. In the fall when the republican machine
> turns against Obama's War maybe they can get those
> teabaggers out to protest...after all the war is a
> major deficit buster. If they do..maybe I'll join
> them.
If the protesters were effective, it sure as Hell didnt show up in the Nixon-McGovern election did it? As I recall, Nixon carried everywhere but Mass. and
DC. in the largest landslide in Presidential election history. Back in those days, I was out protesting and organizing. I remember following the poll
numbers and they didnt start changing until after Tet. So you see Vince,
some of us were actually coherent after all. I realize your only contribution
was voting for George so I can understand your lack of knowledge of the era.
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> Jerry Rubin Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Vince(1) Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Im sure someone will disagree (big
> > > surprise)...one, Vietnam. Plus protesting
> has
> > had
> > > a wider impact then just stopping wars..just
> > look
> > > at your recent town hall meetings.
> >
> > There you go again. Protests against the
> Vietnam
> > War had very little impact
> > on public opinion if any. During the 1968 Tet
> > Offensive, the media began
> > showing live combat for the first time. That is
> > what started changing public
> > opinion against the war. Are you planning on
> > building a monument to
> > draft dodgers on Constitution Avenue?
>
> Without the protests we'd still be in Vietnam
> fighting an "insurgency". As far as Im concerned
> the only reason we are still in Iraq and
> Afghanistan is the lack of an effective protest
> movement. In the fall when the republican machine
> turns against Obama's War maybe they can get those
> teabaggers out to protest...after all the war is a
> major deficit buster. If they do..maybe I'll join
> them.
If the protesters were effective, it sure as Hell didnt show up in the Nixon-McGovern election did it? As I recall, Nixon carried everywhere but Mass. and
DC. in the largest landslide in Presidential election history. Back in those days, I was out protesting and organizing. I remember following the poll
numbers and they didnt start changing until after Tet. So you see Vince,
some of us were actually coherent after all. I realize your only contribution
was voting for George so I can understand your lack of knowledge of the era.
Re: Where the the anti-war protests go?
Posted by:
Vince(1)
()
Date: September 07, 2009 10:27PM
Jerry Rubin Wrote:
>
> If the protesters were effective, it sure as Hell
> didnt show up in the Nixon-McGovern election did
> it? As I recall, Nixon carried everywhere but
> Mass. and
> DC. in the largest landslide in Presidential
> election history. Back in those days, I was out
> protesting and organizing. I remember following
> the poll
> numbers and they didnt start changing until after
> Tet. So you see Vince,
> some of us were actually coherent after all. I
> realize your only contribution
> was voting for George so I can understand your
> lack of knowledge of the era.
Dear Jerry aka RV (you are fooling no one..you couldnt keep your mouth shut for a day if your life depended on it),
You intentionally associate two unrelated events in the hopes of confusing...aka, a lie! The war movement and its influence has nothing to do with the success or failure of the McCarthy Campaign. They are two unassociated events. Making your ridiculous claim would be like me trying say that the healthcare townhall protests hasnt influenced that debate.
Registered Voter...a Big talking coward..big man on FFXU...little man in life.
>
> If the protesters were effective, it sure as Hell
> didnt show up in the Nixon-McGovern election did
> it? As I recall, Nixon carried everywhere but
> Mass. and
> DC. in the largest landslide in Presidential
> election history. Back in those days, I was out
> protesting and organizing. I remember following
> the poll
> numbers and they didnt start changing until after
> Tet. So you see Vince,
> some of us were actually coherent after all. I
> realize your only contribution
> was voting for George so I can understand your
> lack of knowledge of the era.
Dear Jerry aka RV (you are fooling no one..you couldnt keep your mouth shut for a day if your life depended on it),
You intentionally associate two unrelated events in the hopes of confusing...aka, a lie! The war movement and its influence has nothing to do with the success or failure of the McCarthy Campaign. They are two unassociated events. Making your ridiculous claim would be like me trying say that the healthcare townhall protests hasnt influenced that debate.
Registered Voter...a Big talking coward..big man on FFXU...little man in life.