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White House drafting health care bill
Posted by: ferfux ()
Date: September 04, 2009 03:30PM

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2009/09/04/cnn-national-political-correspondent-jessica-yellin-and-cnn-senior-political-analyst-gloria-borger/

Under a 'trigger option', a new government-run health care plan would only go into effect if insurance companies fail to meet certain affordability standards with their own plans.

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Re: White House drafting health care bill
Posted by: Registered Voter ()
Date: September 04, 2009 03:37PM

In some strange way, I feel like I am watching Star Wars when Palpatine starts commenting on how the Senate is too divided to make any meaningful progress in dealing with Trade Federation.

Now where is a Jedi when you need one?

If you can’t model the past, where you know the answer pretty well, how can you model the future? - William Happer Cyrus Fogg Brackett Professor of Physics Princeton University

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Re: White House drafting health care bill
Posted by: Registered Voter ()
Date: September 04, 2009 05:39PM

Obama seeks to quell healthcare revolt
http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/96d44406-98b3-11de-aa1b-00144feabdc0.html

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But Democratic lawmakers on Thursday made clear that there were still unbridgeable differences between the party’s centrist and progressive wings. In August a group of 60 Democratic lawmakers wrote to Mr Obama to say they would vote against a healthcare bill that excluded the public insurance option on which he had campaigned.

But centrist Democratic senators, including Ben Nelson, whose support will be essential, continued to say they would vote against a bill with a public option.

“I see two endings,” Mr Nelson told the Journal Star newspaper on Thursday. “One is we find areas we can agree upon and begin to do things incrementally taking more of an insurance approach, not a government approach. The other is that it [the bill] implodes.”

Meanwhile, Jan Schakowsky, a leading progressive Democratic lawmaker, said liberals were not prepared to climb down. “I will support nothing short of a robust public health insurance plan upon implementation – no triggers,” she said. “I believe Congress will pass and the president will sign such a bill.”

The dismissive reference to “triggers” would augur badly for plans to woo Olympia Snowe, the Republican senator for Maine, who has signalled that inclusion of a public option trigger would be enough to secure her support.

A public option trigger would specify that a public insurance plan could be created several years on if private insurers failed to meet the conditions of the re­forms. Rahm Emanuel, Mr Ob­ama’s chief of staff, and Ms Snowe were said to be “deep in conversations” on Thursday about the possible compromise.
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Re: White House drafting health care bill
Posted by: Registered Voter ()
Date: September 06, 2009 10:19AM

Maxine Waters on Stephanopolous this morning is going to be one of the reasons nothing gets passed. Gibbs was on and is making note of the fact the President has indicated the reform doesn't need the public option, and Maxine has made it clear that since it really doesn't matter if the Republicans are involved, they (the Democrats) will not be voting in the House unless it includes the public option.

Daschle then makes the argument that the public option is going to be so "popular" that folks will be going to it and he doesn't understand this baseless fear of the plan. It isn't that it will be popular - it will be CHEAP. Thus it will be very appealing to folks who are trying to find ways to save money right now. Even if they then lose benefits because of it - they will choose it in the hope that they don't get so sick that it will matter (they will take the gamble).



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 09/06/2009 10:20AM by Registered Voter.

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Re: White House drafting health care bill
Date: September 06, 2009 10:23AM

I like what Howard Dean had to say today. If you don't use your majority, you lose your majority. Time for Obama to take the bull by the horns and get Pelosi and Reid to stop fucking around.

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Re: White House drafting health care bill
Posted by: Vince(1) ()
Date: September 06, 2009 10:37AM

WashingTone-Locian Wrote:
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> I like what Howard Dean had to say today. If you
> don't use your majority, you lose your majority.
> Time for Obama to take the bull by the horns and
> get Pelosi and Reid to stop fucking around.


+1..Id rather see the Dems loose in 2010..and 2012 for having done something significant then for doing nothing..or very little.

Registered Voter...a Big talking coward..big man on FFXU...little man in life.

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Re: White House drafting health care bill
Posted by: Van Jonze-X ()
Date: September 06, 2009 11:03AM

No matter. When the Dem's lose in 2010, the Reps will repeal all the garbage
left over from the BO admin due to overwhelming popular demand.

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Re: White House drafting health care bill
Posted by: RestonLass ()
Date: September 06, 2009 12:04PM

WashingTone-Locian Wrote:
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> I like what Howard Dean had to say today. If you
> don't use your majority, you lose your majority.
> Time for Obama to take the bull by the horns and
> get Pelosi and Reid to stop fucking around.

Screamin' Howard is the Republicans' favorite Democrat. Each time he's allowed out in public he manages to further destroy the crediblity of the party.

Watching him on TV, has anyone else notices that he always looks as though someone strapped him into his chair and he has a huge stick stuck in his butt?

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Re: White House drafting health care bill
Posted by: fairfaxdude ()
Date: September 06, 2009 12:15PM

Yeah, no kiddin, Junes, he really DOES look like that!

Maybe you should use a smaller strap-on next time?

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Re: White House drafting health care bill
Posted by: Warhawk ()
Date: September 06, 2009 12:20PM

Registered Voter Wrote:
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> In some strange way, I feel like I am watching
> Star Wars when Palpatine starts commenting on how
> the Senate is too divided to make any meaningful
> progress in dealing with Trade Federation.
>
> Now where is a Jedi when you need one?


They're all in Atlanta for the Dragon Con convention. Ran into a parade of those on the way to the VT-Bama game.

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That's not a ladybug, that's a cannapiller.

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Re: White House drafting health care bill
Posted by: Vince(1) ()
Date: September 06, 2009 12:51PM

RestonLass Wrote:
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> WashingTone-Locian Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > I like what Howard Dean had to say today. If
> you
> > don't use your majority, you lose your
> majority.
> > Time for Obama to take the bull by the horns
> and
> > get Pelosi and Reid to stop fucking around.
>
> Screamin' Howard is the Republicans' favorite
> Democrat. Each time he's allowed out in public he
> manages to further destroy the crediblity of the
> party.
>
> Watching him on TV, has anyone else notices that
> he always looks as though someone strapped him
> into his chair and he has a huge stick stuck in
> his butt?


And you'd know what that feels like...right?

Registered Voter...a Big talking coward..big man on FFXU...little man in life.

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Re: White House drafting health care bill
Posted by: RestonLass ()
Date: September 06, 2009 01:18PM

I wouldn't know.

But from your answer, it's obvious you have nothing good to say about Sceamin' Howard either.

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Re: White House drafting health care bill
Posted by: Vince(1) ()
Date: September 06, 2009 03:37PM

I like Howard..he's a straight spoken progressive.

Registered Voter...a Big talking coward..big man on FFXU...little man in life.

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Re: White House drafting health care bill
Posted by: Registered Voter ()
Date: September 06, 2009 04:02PM

Yep...



Lol, sorry - couldn't help myself.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 09/06/2009 04:02PM by Registered Voter.

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