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Clinton Won The Debate, Which Means She’s Likely To Gain In The Polls
Posted by:
Annonomeister
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Date: September 27, 2016 07:58AM
"Clinton bested Trump in the first presidential debate according to a variety of metrics, and the odds are that she’ll gain in head-to-head polls over Trump in the coming days.
Start with a CNN poll of debate-watchers, which showed that 62 percent of voters thought Clinton won the debate compared to 27 percent for Trump — a 35-point margin. That’s the third-widest margin ever in a CNN or Gallup post-debate poll, which date back to 1984. The only more lopsided outcomes were the 1992 town hall debate between Bill Clinton, George H.W. Bush and Ross Perot — widely seen as a maestro performance by Clinton — and the first debate between Barack Obama and Mitt Romney in 2012, when the CNN poll showed a 42-point win for Romney and the horse-race polls moved in his favor in the following days.
Post-debate surveys like CNN’s aren’t always popular with poll mavens, in part because the universe of poll-watchers may not match the electorate overall. The voters in CNN’s poll were Democratic-leaning by a net of 15 percentage points, for instance, a considerably wider advantage than Democrats are likely to enjoy on Election Day.
But the CNN survey also historically correlates fairly well with movement in the post-election polls. Below, you’ll find a comparison between the perceived winner of the CNN/Gallup poll in debates since 1984, and how much the horse-race polls changed afterward. In 2012, for instance, Romney gained a net of 4.4 percentage points on Obama, although he eventually lost most of those gains. Bill Clinton, meanwhile, saw the polls swing by 4.1 points in his favor after the town hall debate of 1992."
Start with a CNN poll of debate-watchers, which showed that 62 percent of voters thought Clinton won the debate compared to 27 percent for Trump — a 35-point margin. That’s the third-widest margin ever in a CNN or Gallup post-debate poll, which date back to 1984. The only more lopsided outcomes were the 1992 town hall debate between Bill Clinton, George H.W. Bush and Ross Perot — widely seen as a maestro performance by Clinton — and the first debate between Barack Obama and Mitt Romney in 2012, when the CNN poll showed a 42-point win for Romney and the horse-race polls moved in his favor in the following days.
Post-debate surveys like CNN’s aren’t always popular with poll mavens, in part because the universe of poll-watchers may not match the electorate overall. The voters in CNN’s poll were Democratic-leaning by a net of 15 percentage points, for instance, a considerably wider advantage than Democrats are likely to enjoy on Election Day.
But the CNN survey also historically correlates fairly well with movement in the post-election polls. Below, you’ll find a comparison between the perceived winner of the CNN/Gallup poll in debates since 1984, and how much the horse-race polls changed afterward. In 2012, for instance, Romney gained a net of 4.4 percentage points on Obama, although he eventually lost most of those gains. Bill Clinton, meanwhile, saw the polls swing by 4.1 points in his favor after the town hall debate of 1992."
Re: Clinton Won The Debate, Which Means She’s Likely To Gain In The Polls
Posted by:
causeican
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Date: September 27, 2016 08:13AM
She didn’t win my vote. http://www.fairfaxunderground.com/forum/read/40/2335739.html
Re: Clinton Won The Debate, Which Means She’s Likely To Gain In The Polls
Posted by:
Gunlover
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Date: September 27, 2016 04:14PM
Sure, okay
Re: Clinton Won The Debate, Which Means She’s Likely To Gain In The Polls
Posted by:
don't hold your breath
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Date: September 27, 2016 04:22PM
It will remain as it is, she is not going to gain any Trump supporters nor will she gain Independents. She won the debate you say but that will not have a bearing on folks who dislike her. A disliked player can win in a tennis game but still remain hated.
Re: Clinton Won The Debate, Which Means She’s Likely To Gain In The Polls
Posted by:
NEWSFLASH!
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Date: September 27, 2016 04:32PM
don't hold your breath Wrote:
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> It will remain as it is, she is not going to gain
> any Trump supporters nor will she gain
> Independents.
Undecided voters who watched last night or saw clips of the action today witnessed Trump sniffling like a cokehead, unable to speak coherently about policy, repeatedly interrupting Mrs. Clinton and Lester Holt, bring up Rosie O'Donnell (seriously, Rosie O'Donnell) for no apparent reason, plead with Sean Hannity to cover his Iraq-exposed ass, and generally make a complete ass of himself.
So, yeah, they're going to move to Hillary.
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> It will remain as it is, she is not going to gain
> any Trump supporters nor will she gain
> Independents.
Undecided voters who watched last night or saw clips of the action today witnessed Trump sniffling like a cokehead, unable to speak coherently about policy, repeatedly interrupting Mrs. Clinton and Lester Holt, bring up Rosie O'Donnell (seriously, Rosie O'Donnell) for no apparent reason, plead with Sean Hannity to cover his Iraq-exposed ass, and generally make a complete ass of himself.
So, yeah, they're going to move to Hillary.
Re: Clinton Won The Debate, Which Means She’s Likely To Gain In The Polls
Posted by:
prediction
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Date: September 27, 2016 05:07PM
Hillary will get some of the undecided votes, along with some of the Gary Johnson votes. She'll gain ~2-4 points by Friday, nationally.
Donald showed his true colors last night, and the only people who are fine with that are people already voting for him.
Donald showed his true colors last night, and the only people who are fine with that are people already voting for him.
Re: Clinton Won The Debate, Which Means She’s Likely To Gain In The Polls
Posted by:
EHYPV
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Date: September 27, 2016 05:14PM
more like a tie. which is why both sides are ridiculously claiming a blowout victory. especially the clinton camp, which makes them look a little desperate at this point.
Re: Clinton Won The Debate, Which Means She’s Likely To Gain In The Polls
Posted by:
You're out of touch, out of time
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Date: September 27, 2016 05:16PM
prediction Wrote:
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> Hillary will get some of the undecided votes,
> along with some of the Gary Johnson votes. She'll
> gain ~2-4 points by Friday, nationally.
>
> Donald showed his true colors last night, and the
> only people who are fine with that are people
> already voting for him.
SEPTEMBER 27, 2016 6:27 AM
Presidential debate surprise: Clinton loses ground among some voters in swing state
"Before the debate, the tally was nine Clinton, three Trump, six undecided and three Johnson. Afterward, it became seven Clinton, three Trump, six undecided and five Johnson."
http://www.charlotteobserver.com/news/politics-government/article104382951.html
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> Hillary will get some of the undecided votes,
> along with some of the Gary Johnson votes. She'll
> gain ~2-4 points by Friday, nationally.
>
> Donald showed his true colors last night, and the
> only people who are fine with that are people
> already voting for him.
SEPTEMBER 27, 2016 6:27 AM
Presidential debate surprise: Clinton loses ground among some voters in swing state
"Before the debate, the tally was nine Clinton, three Trump, six undecided and three Johnson. Afterward, it became seven Clinton, three Trump, six undecided and five Johnson."
http://www.charlotteobserver.com/news/politics-government/article104382951.html
Re: Clinton Won The Debate, Which Means She’s Likely To Gain In The Polls
Posted by:
Donnie the Ass Clown
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Date: September 27, 2016 05:17PM
EHYPV Wrote:
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> more like a tie. which is why both sides are
> ridiculously claiming a blowout victory.
> especially the clinton camp, which makes them look
> a little desperate at this point.
Last night, Donnie looked like the clown he is, especially when standing beside a real leader/statesman like Hillary.
Trump-tards!
LoLz!
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> more like a tie. which is why both sides are
> ridiculously claiming a blowout victory.
> especially the clinton camp, which makes them look
> a little desperate at this point.
Last night, Donnie looked like the clown he is, especially when standing beside a real leader/statesman like Hillary.
Trump-tards!
LoLz!
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Re: Clinton Won The Debate, Which Means She’s Likely To Gain In The Polls
Posted by:
Very Careful Analyst
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Date: September 27, 2016 05:20PM
A tie? One candidate calmly reels off detailed comments on various policy positions. The other candidate fidgets, yells and states one falsehood after the other while going no more than a layer deep on the rare occasion he wasn't plain wrong.
Re: Clinton Won The Debate, Which Means She’s Likely To Gain In The Polls
Posted by:
7MdXU
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Date: September 27, 2016 05:21PM
Re: Clinton Won The Debate, Which Means She’s Likely To Gain In The Polls
Posted by:
Trump-tards!
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Date: September 27, 2016 05:22PM
You're out of touch, out of time Wrote:
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> prediction Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Hillary will get some of the undecided votes,
> > along with some of the Gary Johnson votes.
> She'll
> > gain ~2-4 points by Friday, nationally.
> >
> > Donald showed his true colors last night, and
> the
> > only people who are fine with that are people
> > already voting for him.
>
>
> SEPTEMBER 27, 2016 6:27 AM
>
> Presidential debate surprise: Clinton loses ground
> among some voters in swing state
>
> "Before the debate, the tally was nine Clinton,
> three Trump, six undecided and three Johnson.
> Afterward, it became seven Clinton, three Trump,
> six undecided and five Johnson."
1) A sample size of 18. Clearly, this is a statically valid poll. lol.
2) Trump didn't gain a single vote.
3) Hillary still came out ahead in the end.
Trump-tards!
LoLz!
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> prediction Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Hillary will get some of the undecided votes,
> > along with some of the Gary Johnson votes.
> She'll
> > gain ~2-4 points by Friday, nationally.
> >
> > Donald showed his true colors last night, and
> the
> > only people who are fine with that are people
> > already voting for him.
>
>
> SEPTEMBER 27, 2016 6:27 AM
>
> Presidential debate surprise: Clinton loses ground
> among some voters in swing state
>
> "Before the debate, the tally was nine Clinton,
> three Trump, six undecided and three Johnson.
> Afterward, it became seven Clinton, three Trump,
> six undecided and five Johnson."
1) A sample size of 18. Clearly, this is a statically valid poll. lol.
2) Trump didn't gain a single vote.
3) Hillary still came out ahead in the end.
Trump-tards!
LoLz!
Re: Clinton Won The Debate, Which Means She’s Likely To Gain In The Polls
Posted by:
Interdasting!
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Date: September 27, 2016 05:23PM
Re: Clinton Won The Debate, Which Means She’s Likely To Gain In The Polls
Posted by:
Trumpster Fire!
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Date: September 27, 2016 05:26PM
Interdasting! Wrote:
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> http://graphics.latimes.com/usc-presidential-poll-
> dashboard/
'The worst of the worst.'
'Absolutely meaningless.'
'Flipping a coin would be better.'
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> http://graphics.latimes.com/usc-presidential-poll-
> dashboard/
'The worst of the worst.'
'Absolutely meaningless.'
'Flipping a coin would be better.'
Re: Clinton Won The Debate, Which Means She’s Likely To Gain In The Polls
Posted by:
Fxu6U
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Date: September 27, 2016 05:33PM
Trump-tards! Wrote:
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> You're out of touch, out of time Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > prediction Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Hillary will get some of the undecided votes,
> > > along with some of the Gary Johnson votes.
> > She'll
> > > gain ~2-4 points by Friday, nationally.
> > >
> > > Donald showed his true colors last night, and
> > the
> > > only people who are fine with that are people
> > > already voting for him.
> >
> >
> > SEPTEMBER 27, 2016 6:27 AM
> >
> > Presidential debate surprise: Clinton loses
> ground
> > among some voters in swing state
> >
> > "Before the debate, the tally was nine Clinton,
> > three Trump, six undecided and three Johnson.
> > Afterward, it became seven Clinton, three
> Trump,
> > six undecided and five Johnson."
>
> 1) A sample size of 18. Clearly, this is a
> statically valid poll. lol.
>
> 2) Trump didn't gain a single vote.
>
> 3) Hillary still came out ahead in the end.
>
> Trump-tards!
>
> LoLz!
How Trump won over a bar full of undecideds and Democrats
By Salena Zito September 26, 2016
“I’ve been a Democrat all of my life, but when Clinton mentions her husband and the jobs he brought to the country in the ’90s, it’s not a fair assessment. She is no moderate Democrat the way he was, her policies would not bring back jobs,” said Nathan Nemick.
It burns Nemick when Clinton references her husband, like she did in the debate on trade and jobs. “She is nothing like him,” he said of the Democrat he admired in his youth.
http://nypost.com/2016/09/26/the-best-debate-takes-come-from-inside-the-bar/
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> You're out of touch, out of time Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > prediction Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Hillary will get some of the undecided votes,
> > > along with some of the Gary Johnson votes.
> > She'll
> > > gain ~2-4 points by Friday, nationally.
> > >
> > > Donald showed his true colors last night, and
> > the
> > > only people who are fine with that are people
> > > already voting for him.
> >
> >
> > SEPTEMBER 27, 2016 6:27 AM
> >
> > Presidential debate surprise: Clinton loses
> ground
> > among some voters in swing state
> >
> > "Before the debate, the tally was nine Clinton,
> > three Trump, six undecided and three Johnson.
> > Afterward, it became seven Clinton, three
> Trump,
> > six undecided and five Johnson."
>
> 1) A sample size of 18. Clearly, this is a
> statically valid poll. lol.
>
> 2) Trump didn't gain a single vote.
>
> 3) Hillary still came out ahead in the end.
>
> Trump-tards!
>
> LoLz!
How Trump won over a bar full of undecideds and Democrats
By Salena Zito September 26, 2016
“I’ve been a Democrat all of my life, but when Clinton mentions her husband and the jobs he brought to the country in the ’90s, it’s not a fair assessment. She is no moderate Democrat the way he was, her policies would not bring back jobs,” said Nathan Nemick.
It burns Nemick when Clinton references her husband, like she did in the debate on trade and jobs. “She is nothing like him,” he said of the Democrat he admired in his youth.
http://nypost.com/2016/09/26/the-best-debate-takes-come-from-inside-the-bar/
Re: Clinton Won The Debate, Which Means She’s Likely To Gain In The Polls
Posted by:
That's nice, Dear
()
Date: September 27, 2016 06:04PM
Fxu6U Wrote:
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> “I’ve been a Democrat all of my life, but when
> Clinton mentions her husband and the jobs he
> brought to the country in the ’90s, it’s not a
> fair assessment. She is no moderate Democrat the
> way he was, her policies would not bring back
> jobs,” said Nathan Nemick.
>
> It burns Nemick when Clinton references her
> husband, like she did in the debate on trade and
> jobs. “She is nothing like him,” he said of
> the Democrat he admired in his youth.
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> “I’ve been a Democrat all of my life, but when
> Clinton mentions her husband and the jobs he
> brought to the country in the ’90s, it’s not a
> fair assessment. She is no moderate Democrat the
> way he was, her policies would not bring back
> jobs,” said Nathan Nemick.
>
> It burns Nemick when Clinton references her
> husband, like she did in the debate on trade and
> jobs. “She is nothing like him,” he said of
> the Democrat he admired in his youth.
Attachments:
Re: Clinton Won The Debate, Which Means She’s Likely To Gain In The Polls
Posted by:
cbaa
()
Date: September 27, 2016 06:38PM
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