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Melania's Speech - The Saga Continues (And Gets Worse)
Posted by: Can't Make This Shit Up ()
Date: July 20, 2016 02:10PM

It just gets better and better. Meredith McIver, an in-house writer on the Trump campaign and ghostwriter of Trump's books, has taken responsibility for the plagiarism in Melania's speech. In doing so, however, she has only made things worse. An excerpt from her letter...

In working with Melania Trump on her recent First Lady speech, we
discussed many people who inspired her and messages she wanted to share
with the American people. A person she has always liked is Michelle Obama.
Over the phone, she read me some passages from Mrs. Obama's speech as
examples. I wrote them down and later included some of the phrasing in the
draft that ultimately became the final speech. I did not check Mrs. Obama's speeches.


McIver goes on to say that she offered Trump her resignation, but he refused. She then offered to write an apology letter, and Trump told her to go ahead. Unfortunately, no one seems to have vetted McGiver's apology, where she committed a cardinal sin - saying that Melania admires Michelle Obama. That just isn't done.

Meanwhile, Paul Manafort and his surrogates have absolutely insisted since this first blew up that there was no plagiarism in Melania's speech, despite the fact that there clearly was. And he pinned it on Hillary, who had nothing to do with any of this.

To top it off, Trump sent out a Twitter in the last hour saying something to the effect that it's great that Melania's speech is getting so much attention. Meanwhile, we go into day three of the convention dominated by Melania's speech.

Obviously, the Trump supporters view this as a blip. It's not. This whole incident brings to light the fact that the Trump organization is in chaos, with absolutely no coordination among the major players. Trump and his campaign manager are working with different scripts. You simply can't have that in a high level political campaign. The American people need to wake up and realize that the Republican nominee is a joke who can't run his own campaign, let alone the country.

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Re: Melania's Speech - The Saga Continues (And Gets Worse)
Posted by: really awful person ()
Date: July 20, 2016 02:14PM

Can't Make This Shit Up Wrote:
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> Paul Manafort

Paul Manafort is a fucking sleaze

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Re: Melania's Speech - The Saga Continues (And Gets Worse)
Posted by: Trump Trump Trump ()
Date: July 20, 2016 02:14PM

^^^^^^

We all know how well Hillary runs things. That's the real joke. Enough said.

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Re: Melania's Speech - The Saga Continues (And Gets Worse)
Posted by: Fat~Bottom~Girl ()
Date: July 20, 2016 02:15PM

Can't Make This Shit Up Wrote:
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> Obviously, the Trump supporters view this as a
> blip. It's not. This whole incident brings to
> light the fact that the Trump organization is in
> chaos, with absolutely no coordination among the
> major players. Trump and his campaign manager are
> working with different scripts. You simply can't
> have that in a high level political campaign. The
> American people need to wake up and realize that
> the Republican nominee is a joke who can't run his
> own campaign, let alone the country.

+1

Ain't it the truth!

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Re: Melania's Speech - The Saga Continues (And Gets Worse)
Posted by: PC retards ()
Date: July 20, 2016 02:17PM

LIBTARDS!!!!

LOLZ!!!
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Re: Melania's Speech - The Saga Continues (And Gets Worse)
Posted by: Think Again ()
Date: July 20, 2016 02:20PM

Trump Trump Trump Wrote:
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> ^^^^^^
>
> We all know how well Hillary runs things. That's
> the real joke. Enough said.

Apparently, you don't know how Hillary runs things. The woman is a machine. This kind of reckless disorganization would never happen on her watch. You may not like Hillary's positions or her decisions, but the woman is not careless and sloppy.

Enough said, indeed.

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Re: Melania's Speech - The Saga Continues (And Gets Worse)
Posted by: jGPxm ()
Date: July 20, 2016 02:27PM

Liberals are nothing but hypocrite losers...


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Re: Melania's Speech - The Saga Continues (And Gets Worse)
Posted by: He said it fiirst ()
Date: July 20, 2016 02:27PM

"Hillary Clinton will say anything to get elected."

- Barack Obama

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Re: Melania's Speech - The Saga Continues (And Gets Worse)
Posted by: Hillary Crime Syndicate ()
Date: July 20, 2016 02:31PM

Think Again Wrote:
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>
> Apparently, you don't know how Hillary runs
> things. The woman is a machine. This kind of
> reckless disorganization would never happen on her
> watch.


The invasion of Libya, deposing peace and installing Muslim Brotherhood.

They lies about Benghazi being cased by a video.

The destroyed emails. The illegal server.

The donations from Wall Street and Foreign countries.


It's nice to know that the Democrats admit now that these were all on purpose, by a machine, not the result of any disorganization.

Just a criminal. Just Hillary.

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Re: Melania's Speech - The Saga Continues (And Gets Worse)
Posted by: Noyoudint ()
Date: July 20, 2016 02:34PM

I just heard that Melania is taking credit for the apology letter as well.

She did give this speech earlier today and says she wrote it except for one tiny part.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/onpolitics/2016/07/20/caitlyn-jenner-rnc-trump-cleveland/87337344/

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Re: Melania's Speech - The Saga Continues (And Gets Worse)
Posted by: mwHc6 ()
Date: July 20, 2016 02:35PM


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Re: Melania's Speech - The Saga Continues (And Gets Worse)
Posted by: Lib-tardz! ()
Date: July 20, 2016 02:37PM

Oh noes. This is going to cost Trump the election!!!!!!!!

Lib-tardz!

LoLz!

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Re: Melania's Speech - The Saga Continues (And Gets Worse)
Posted by: #DumpThatTrumpChump ()
Date: July 20, 2016 02:38PM

#DumpThatTrumpChump

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Re: Melania's Speech - The Saga Continues (And Gets Worse)
Posted by: Can't Make This Shit Up ()
Date: July 20, 2016 03:29PM

jGPxm Wrote:
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> Liberals are nothing but hypocrite losers...

Those are gross exaggerations and misrepresentations. But I'm tired of rebutting bullshit.

In any case, you are completely missing the point. The plagiarism would have been a one day or less story if the Trump campaign had figured out quickly who screwed up and had taken responsibility for the mistake. But they didn't. Instead, they (especially Manafort) doubled down and flat out lied. The press knew they were being bullshitted by that slimeball Manafort, so they persisted. Some takeaways from this clusterfuck...

- Trump and his campaign manager are not on the same page. That is fatal, especially when it results in throwing the candidate's wife under the bus.
- The Trump campaign has no problem lying, even when the lie is so patently obvious.
- Trump is incapable of admitting he made a mistake. That has huge ramifications for a President.
- The Trump campaign had the first draft of the speech written by veteran speech writers who knew what they were doing. The speech Melania gave bore no resemblance to the draft. That's because Melania and the ex-ballerina wrote it. Neither had any business writing a speech of this magnitude. But the cardinal sin was that NOBODY VETTED THE SPEECH. That is simply astonishing.
- The Trump campaign allowed an apology letter by the amateur speechwriter to go out not only admitting to the plagiarism but praising Michelle Obama! Instead of learning from their first mistake (not vetting outgoing communications), the Trump campaign compounded the problem.
- Instead of just shutting up and stopping while he's behind, Trump actually tweets that any publicity is good publicity. It isn't.

This is a rarely seen level of incompetence. This sort of amateur crap would be inexcusable in a campaign for homecoming queen, let alone the Presidency. You can slam Hillary all you want, but it doesn't make Trump look any better.

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Re: Melania's Speech - The Saga Continues (And Gets Worse)
Posted by: You're an imbecile ()
Date: July 20, 2016 03:56PM

Big deal, another imbecilic post that will not cost Trump one vote. You are like the proverbial chicken scratching the ground in hopes of finding something of substance. You should abstain from posting till you have something worthy of this site.

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Re: Melania's Speech - The Saga Continues (And Gets Worse)
Posted by: HA!!! ()
Date: July 20, 2016 04:04PM

You're an imbecile Wrote:
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> Big deal, another imbecilic post that will not
> cost Trump one vote. You are like the proverbial
> chicken scratching the ground in hopes of finding
> something of substance. You should abstain from
> posting till you have something worthy of this
> site.

Worthy of this site - lol! How about you contribute something of substance, like a real rebuttal.

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Re: Melania's Speech - The Saga Continues (And Gets Worse)
Posted by: I'm butthurt. ()
Date: July 20, 2016 04:04PM

And don't want anything else posted here

Whaaaaaa

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Re: Melania's Speech - The Saga Continues (And Gets Worse)
Posted by: Herbert Kornfeld ()
Date: July 20, 2016 04:12PM

"At this point, what difference does it make?"

Hillary Clinton

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Re: Melania's Speech - The Saga Continues (And Gets Worse)
Posted by: mDcDF ()
Date: July 20, 2016 04:13PM

Liberals are just whiny hypocrites. Smash them in the face with a 2x4.

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Re: Melania's Speech - The Saga Continues (And Gets Worse)
Posted by: nog hauler rider ()
Date: July 20, 2016 04:15PM

"Obama is electable because he is light skinned and has no negro dialect, unless he chooses to have one."

Harry Reid

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Re: Melania's Speech - The Saga Continues (And Gets Worse)
Posted by: JavonTron ()
Date: July 20, 2016 04:16PM

THANKS JEWS

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Re: Melania's Speech - The Saga Continues (And Gets Worse)
Posted by: XPNT ()
Date: July 20, 2016 04:37PM

Truth be told it was a great speech, great job on delivery, classy and impressive lady. A couple of lines plagiarized in an honest mistake for a woman for whom English is her 5th language does not diminish what a great job she did. Let the media hacks and trolls dwell on the 2% negative and give her a solid A at 98%.

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Re: Melania's Speech - The Saga Continues (And Gets Worse)
Posted by: Cult of Personality sans IQ ()
Date: July 20, 2016 04:39PM

The 2016 Republican National Convention cheered and clapped to Michelle Obama's 2008 Democratic Convention Speech, some of which was taken from a radical community organizer who spent much of his life trying to help poor and disenfranchised African Americans.

That is the real story here.

Republicans are so stupid they can't understand what they are hearing or what it truly means.

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Re: Melania's Speech - The Saga Continues (And Gets Worse)
Posted by: XPNT ()
Date: July 20, 2016 04:41PM

Cult of Personality sans IQ Wrote:
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> The 2016 Republican National Convention cheered
> and clapped to Michelle Obama's 2008 Democratic
> Convention Speech, some of which was taken from a
> radical community organizer who spent much of his
> life trying to help poor and disenfranchised
> African Americans.
>
> That is the real story here.
>
> Republicans are so stupid they can't understand
> what they are hearing or what it truly means.


Umm, we're talking about two lines here.

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Re: Melania's Speech - The Saga Continues (And Gets Worse)
Posted by: D'OHnald Trump ()
Date: July 20, 2016 04:52PM

XPNT Wrote:
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>
> Umm, we're talking about two lines here.

Umm - her speech writer said Melania admired Michelle Obama and gave quotes to help the speech writer find material inspiration.

2016 Republicans cheered Obama's 2008 speech after spending 8 years vilifying her and her husband.

Karma is a real bitch when you are stupid, hateful, racist, unorganized idiots.

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Re: Melania's Speech - The Saga Continues (And Gets Worse)
Posted by: WbcU4 ()
Date: July 20, 2016 05:30PM


BOGUS REPOST WHICH IS TRYING TO FORGET THAT MICHELE STOLE HER SPEECH

SUCH SPEECHES BY WIVES OF FAMOUS MEN ARE DONE FREQUENTLY AND BOTH BORROWED FROM CANNED SPEECHES

YOUR REPOSTING TO LOOSE THE FACT YOU LOST THE ARGUMENT


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Re: Melania's Speech - The Saga Continues (And Gets Worse)
Posted by: DTVL ()
Date: July 20, 2016 05:40PM

D'OHnald Trump Wrote:
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> XPNT Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> >
> > Umm, we're talking about two lines here.
>
> Umm - her speech writer said Melania admired
> Michelle Obama and gave quotes to help the speech
> writer find material inspiration.
>
> 2016 Republicans cheered Obama's 2008 speech after
> spending 8 years vilifying her and her husband.
>
> Karma is a real bitch when you are stupid,
> hateful, racist, unorganized idiots.


We'll have to take your word for it. Trump haters are some of the most stupid,
hateful, racist, unorganized idiots I've ever seen.

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Re: Melania's Speech - The Saga Continues (And Gets Worse)
Posted by: Ying Ko ()
Date: July 20, 2016 05:48PM

WbcU4 Wrote:
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>


> BOGUS REPOST WHICH IS TRYING TO FORGET THAT
> MICHELE STOLE HER SPEECH
>
> SUCH SPEECHES BY WIVES OF FAMOUS MEN ARE DONE
> FREQUENTLY AND BOTH BORROWED FROM CANNED SPEECHES
>
> YOUR REPOSTING TO LOOSE THE FACT YOU LOST THE
> ARGUMENT
>




Claim: Michelle Obama plagiarized Saul Alinsky in her 2008 Democratic National Convention speech.
Mostly False

WHAT'S TRUE: A portion of a single sentence from Michelle Obama's 2008 DNC speech bore resemblance to a single line from Saul Alinsky's book "Rules for Radicals."

WHAT'S FALSE: Substantial portions of Michelle Obama's 2008 DNC speech echoed concepts and phrasing taken from "Rules for Radicals."

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Re: Melania's Speech - The Saga Continues (And Gets Worse)
Posted by: 9GHtU ()
Date: July 20, 2016 05:51PM

Can't Make This Shit Up Wrote:
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> Obviously, the Trump supporters view this as a
> blip. It's not.

Yes

It is.

Only petty fools care. Real people shrug it off and move on with life.

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Re: Melania's Speech - The Saga Continues (And Gets Worse)
Posted by: Let's Get Real ()
Date: July 20, 2016 06:31PM

XPNT Wrote:
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> Truth be told it was a great speech, great job on
> delivery, classy and impressive lady. A couple of
> lines plagiarized in an honest mistake for a woman
> for whom English is her 5th language does not
> diminish what a great job she did. Let the media
> hacks and trolls dwell on the 2% negative and give
> her a solid A at 98%.

No, truth be told it was a pedestrian speech given in a pedestrian manner. There was no passion, no personality, nothing to give us insight into the 'real' Donald Trump. The whole point of the wife's speech is to humanize the candidate. That speech didn't do it. Tiffany, on the other hand, gave a very good speech. She was warm, it was sweet, and she made clear how much she loved and admired her father. There was no real substance, but that's not the point of a speech like that.

Reading off of a teleprompter does not require a superior command of the English language. That was not Melania's problem. I'm astonished that so many people (mostly men) have convinced themselves that Melania is a sterling example of class and dignity. She's a gorgeous woman who likes to keep a low profile and would probably love to get away from this shitshow. That's not the same.

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Re: Melania's Speech - The Saga Continues (And Gets Worse)
Posted by: cbaa ()
Date: July 20, 2016 06:44PM

*****Yawn*****

Can someone pass the popcorn while I watch the Lieberals twist themselves in knots about this?

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Re: Melania's Speech - The Saga Continues (And Gets Worse)
Posted by: Trump Ain't No Chump! ()
Date: July 20, 2016 06:55PM

Any press is good press. Libs took the bait hook line and sinker. What idiots.

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Re: Melania's Speech - The Saga Continues (And Gets Worse)
Posted by: Trump Show ()
Date: July 23, 2016 04:20PM

The Trump show is amateur hour.
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Re: Melania's Speech - The Saga Continues (And Gets Worse)
Posted by: Not one of us ()
Date: July 23, 2016 05:34PM

Isn't she a commie?
Can she get a security clearance?
Trump bought a wife who was a foreigner.

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Re: Melania's Speech - The Saga Continues (And Gets Worse)
Posted by: XmTwc ()
Date: July 23, 2016 11:41PM

> Can't Make This Shit Up
you libs are continually making shit up - cry wolf, no one is listening to you

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Re: Melania's Speech - The Saga Continues (And Gets Worse)
Posted by: A question for yee ()
Date: July 23, 2016 11:47PM

Which office was Melanie running for?

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Re: Melania's Speech - The Saga Continues (And Gets Worse)
Posted by: scary stuff ()
Date: July 26, 2016 03:48PM

A question for yee Wrote:
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> Which office was Melanie running for?

God! Let hope Trump never puts her into any office. The lady can barely speak English.

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Re: Melania's Speech - The Saga Continues (And Gets Worse)
Posted by: Security Leak ()
Date: August 01, 2016 08:14PM

scary stuff Wrote:
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> A question for yee Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Which office was Melanie running for?
>
> God! Let hope Trump never puts her into any
> office. The lady can barely speak English.

Not mention there is no way in hell she could get clearance to hear classified information.

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Re: Melania's Speech - The Saga Continues (And Gets Worse)
Posted by: JNY ()
Date: August 01, 2016 08:22PM

Security Leak Wrote:
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> scary stuff Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > A question for yee Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Which office was Melanie running for?
> >
> > God! Let hope Trump never puts her into any
> > office. The lady can barely speak English.
>
> Not mention there is no way in hell she could get
> clearance to hear classified information.


are you talking about Melania or Hillary?

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Re: Melania's Speech - The Saga Continues (And Gets Worse)
Posted by: cycpb ()
Date: August 22, 2016 08:30PM

Pretty sure the speech at the RNC was Melania

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Re: Melania's Speech - The Saga Continues (And Gets Worse)
Posted by: Michelle Obama ()
Date: August 23, 2016 11:40AM

So she is big fan of Michelle Obama? So what?

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Re: Melania's Speech - The Saga Continues (And Gets Worse)
Posted by: Trump Train Wreck ()
Date: August 23, 2016 09:22PM

What a train wreck this family is.

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Re: Melania's Speech - The Saga Continues (And Gets Worse)
Posted by: Copycat ()
Date: August 29, 2016 11:04AM

Michelle Obama Wrote:
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> So she is big fan of Michelle Obama? So what?

I know right? What's so bad about Melania idolizing Michelle Obama?

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Re: Melania's Speech - The Saga Continues (And Gets Worse)
Posted by: Where's Melania? ()
Date: September 08, 2016 08:38PM

Where is Melania these days? Did Trump tie her up in some closet?

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Re: Melania's Speech - The Saga Continues (And Gets Worse)
Posted by: Ruskie Trump Wife ()
Date: September 19, 2016 01:12PM

Where's Melania? Wrote:
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> Where is Melania these days? Did Trump tie her up
> in some closet?

Trump is hiding her. She is in a big controversy over if she is country illegally.

Plus after she read Michelle Obama's speech at the Republican convention it's embarrassing.

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Re: Melania's Speech - The Saga Continues (And Gets Worse)
Posted by: 77VkP ()
Date: September 27, 2016 10:09AM

Melania looked great but it was interesting how the entire Trump family came up on stage after the debate except Melania.

I guess Trump didn't want anybody to be reminded of her speech.

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Re: Melania's Speech - The Saga Continues (And Gets Worse)
Posted by: Michelle Obama Lover ()
Date: October 03, 2016 10:57PM

Hey she is big fan of Obama. Can you blame her?

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Re: Melania's Speech - The Saga Continues (And Gets Worse)
Posted by: Hide Her ()
Date: October 04, 2016 12:26PM

It's a good thing Trump has hidden Melania in a closet some place.

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Re: Melania's Speech - The Saga Continues (And Gets Worse)
Posted by: First Lady? ()
Date: October 12, 2016 10:16AM

Now Melania is wearing a pussy bow. "It was mistake." Wow, Melania sure does make a lot of mistakes as a first lady.

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Re: Melania's Speech - The Saga Continues (And Gets Worse)
Posted by: Hot Lady! ()
Date: October 12, 2016 10:28AM

First Lady? Wrote:
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> Now Melania is wearing a pussy bow. "It was
> mistake." Wow, Melania sure does make a lot of
> mistakes as a first lady.


Doubt she'll fuck over all our kids by mandating shitty school lunches like that cow we currently have. Melania will just sit there and look hot - something that gorilla Moo-chel could never do.

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Re: Melania's Speech - The Saga Continues (And Gets Worse)
Posted by: Vexxxed ()
Date: October 12, 2016 11:24AM

First Lady? Wrote:
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> Now Melania is wearing a pussy bow. "It was
> mistake." Wow, Melania sure does make a lot of
> mistakes as a first lady.


So? Guess what? I bet she's been known to stroke a pussy cat or two in her life.

If either of those terms excites you, I'd suggest therapy....immediately.

Also, saying something is "unintentional" is a long way from making up a quote that sounds like Natasha in her quest to kill squirrel and moose.

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Re: Melania's Speech - The Saga Continues (And Gets Worse)
Posted by: Ruskie No ()
Date: October 17, 2016 09:01PM

Melania does nothing for me sexually. That immigrant voice is complete turn off. If Trump has a Russian fetish so be it.

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Re: Melania's Speech - The Saga Continues (And Gets Worse)
Posted by: yx7Et ()
Date: October 18, 2016 08:29PM


did she say what Michele obama said ?

feed all of the worlds poor (future democrat), poor because the politicians from the country they are from STOLE THE WELFARE MONEY - SENT THEM TO USA - for a price, from all countries maybe 3 meals a day - DO NOT allow home made meals - DO BUY import foods and give out many cafeterial "obama jobs" ?

is that what Melania said ? to hell with money i'm taking it using your money if it means giving the enemy the home you call home ?


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Re: Melania's Speech - The Saga Continues (And Gets Worse)
Posted by: Posit ()
Date: October 21, 2016 11:50AM

Why do you have to put all your posts in H1 tags? It's only way people might listen to what you have to say?

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Re: Melania's Speech - The Saga Continues (And Gets Worse)
Posted by: YELLING ()
Date: October 26, 2016 01:51PM

Posit Wrote:
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> Why do you have to put all your posts in H1 tags?
> It's only way people might listen to what you have
> to say?

That's what fat ugly high school kids do.

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Re: Melania's Speech - The Saga Continues (And Gets Worse)
Posted by: Gerrymanderer2 ()
Date: October 26, 2016 09:52PM

Where is former illegal immigrant/eastern european escort prostitute future Trumptard First Lady Melania Trump? She be hiding.

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Re: Melania's Speech - The Saga Continues (And Gets Worse)
Posted by: Lpedws ()
Date: April 22, 2018 04:22PM

Gerrymanderer2 Wrote:
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> Where is former illegal immigrant/eastern european
> escort prostitute future Trumptard First Lady
> Melania Trump? She be hiding.

Trump keeps her in a closet and brings her\him out when he knows she won't have to speak english.

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Re: Melania's Speech - The Saga Continues (And Gets Worse)
Posted by: fixer of things ()
Date: April 22, 2018 04:24PM

Lpedws Wrote:
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> Gerrymanderer2 Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Where is former illegal immigrant/eastern
> european
> > escort prostitute future Trumptard First Lady
> > Melania Trump? She be hiding.
>
> Trump keeps her in a closet and brings her\him out
> when he is throwing a bachelor party.

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