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The Beginning of the End of Glenn Beck?
Date: August 11, 2009 03:25PM

Let's hope so....

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/james-rucker/geico-pulls-its-ads-from_b_256724.html

Rupert Murdoch will put up with a lot. But he won't put up with losing ad revenue.

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Re: The Beginning of the End of Glenn Beck?
Posted by: § ()
Date: August 11, 2009 03:29PM

That would be awesome. But, not as awesome as watching him break-down and cry regularly.

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Re: The Beginning of the End of Glenn Beck?
Posted by: Registered Voter ()
Date: August 11, 2009 03:33PM

Yeah, I don't watch his show normally. On occasion when channel surfing and I see it I will see it is on and stop to see what he is ranting about. His problem is, while he has some "decent" ideas, he also goes off the deep end on some topics and is over the top a lot in his characterizations. I imagine he will end up eventually end up with his own PAC or something, and become a periodic guest on FOX and/or one of the other channels.

If you can’t model the past, where you know the answer pretty well, how can you model the future? - William Happer Cyrus Fogg Brackett Professor of Physics Princeton University

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Re: The Beginning of the End of Glenn Beck?
Date: August 11, 2009 03:35PM

This guy has Morton Downy, Jr written all over him. He is going to implode and it is going to be ugly. The guy spent most of his adult life in and out of 12-step programs, so he is going to be one fucking mess if he loses this gig, guaranteed.

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Re: The Beginning of the End of Glenn Beck?
Posted by: TheMeeper ()
Date: August 11, 2009 03:36PM

Good. He's the worst out of any of the right wing political commentators. Politics aside, he is annoying, obnoxiously unfunny, and a TERRIBLE interviewer. I can actually sit and listen to Rush Limbaugh or watch Bill O' Reilly- I think their political views are very stupid, but they can at least hold my attention. Beck, on the other hand, his mannerisms and tone, it makes me wanna reach thru the screen and smack the shit out of him.

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Re: The Beginning of the End of Glenn Beck?
Posted by: § ()
Date: August 11, 2009 03:57PM

This is great news. I just signed the petition as well.

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Re: The Beginning of the End of Glenn Beck?
Posted by: Eastsider ()
Date: August 11, 2009 06:52PM

I dislike the shape of his ears.

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Re: The Beginning of the End of Glenn Beck?
Posted by: fairfaxdude ()
Date: August 11, 2009 06:53PM

Hey, he's a petulant child in a big boy job. I loved the tears though--great theatre!

I honestly thought he was just a side-show dumbass until his recent "Obama is a racist tirade". Now he's a hate-mongering waste of pixels. Meh.

Edited to add: Has anyone read his "book"? That oughta be priceless. LOL

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Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 08/11/2009 06:55PM by fairfaxdude.

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Re: The Beginning of the End of Glenn Beck?
Posted by: Alias ()
Date: August 12, 2009 12:29AM

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Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 02/29/2012 10:22PM by Alias.

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Re: The Beginning of the End of Glenn Beck?
Posted by: Thurston Moore ()
Date: August 12, 2009 12:45AM

I just wish Jon Stewart would go on Glenn Beck and Bill O'Reilly's shows.


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Re: The Beginning of the End of Glenn Beck?
Posted by: Alias ()
Date: August 12, 2009 12:57AM

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Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 02/29/2012 11:28PM by Alias.

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Re: The Beginning of the End of Glenn Beck?
Posted by: Thurston Moore ()
Date: August 12, 2009 01:06AM

Alias Wrote:
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> Jon Stewart?
>
> Thurston...You're scaring me now.
>
> Whack, whack, wake up.


Watch the video. He is attributed with the cancellation of Crossfire from that one single appearance.

If only he could appear on Glenn Beck and Bill O'Reilly's shows. And Keith Olberman's show, as well.

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Re: The Beginning of the End of Glenn Beck?
Posted by: Alias ()
Date: August 12, 2009 01:40AM

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Re: The Beginning of the End of Glenn Beck?
Posted by: bloody blisters ()
Date: August 12, 2009 02:02AM

no way!
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Re: The Beginning of the End of Glenn Beck?
Posted by: Alias ()
Date: August 12, 2009 02:13AM

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Re: The Beginning of the End of Glenn Beck?
Posted by: bloody blisters ()
Date: August 12, 2009 02:19AM

for the majority.
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Re: The Beginning of the End of Glenn Beck?
Posted by: fairfaxdude ()
Date: August 12, 2009 08:25AM

Alias Wrote:
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> He scares Obama since he has been successful in
> connecting the dots.
> enemy #1
>
> Next...?


HA
HA HA
HA HA HA

Glenn Beck scares his mother, thats about it. She's afraid to admit she wombed that retard.

HA HA HA HA

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Re: The Beginning of the End of Glenn Beck?
Posted by: FurfaxTownie ()
Date: August 12, 2009 08:46AM

>Rupert Murdoch will put up with a lot. But he won't put up with losing ad revenue.

Good point, because Fox is not an idealogical property that the Democrat left claim it is, unlike MSNBC or CNN. Fox News is in the business of making money and wants to provide programming that will attract the most viewers all around opposed to catering to one side exclusively. Albiet, Fox does seem to draw in more conservatives.

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Re: The Beginning of the End of Glenn Beck?
Date: August 12, 2009 08:50AM

FurfaxTownie Wrote:
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> >Rupert Murdoch will put up with a lot. But he
> won't put up with losing ad revenue.
>
> Good point, because Fox is not an idealogical
> property that the Democrat left claim it is,
> unlike MSNBC or CNN. Fox News is in the business
> of making money and wants to provide programming
> that will attract the most viewers all around
> opposed to catering to one side exclusively.
> Albiet, Fox does seem to draw in more
> conservatives.


Get real. Fox is a mouthpiece for the RNC. I have no problem with you claiming the same with MSNBC and the DNC. But this idea that Fox is somehow unbiased is utter bullshit.

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Re: The Beginning of the End of Glenn Beck?
Date: August 12, 2009 08:54AM

WashingTone-Locian Wrote:
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> FurfaxTownie Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > >Rupert Murdoch will put up with a lot. But he
> > won't put up with losing ad revenue.
> >
> > Good point, because Fox is not an idealogical
> > property that the Democrat left claim it is,
> > unlike MSNBC or CNN. Fox News is in the
> business
> > of making money and wants to provide
> programming
> > that will attract the most viewers all around
> > opposed to catering to one side exclusively.
> > Albiet, Fox does seem to draw in more
> > conservatives.
>
>
> Get real. Fox is a mouthpiece for the RNC. I have
> no problem with you claiming the same with MSNBC
> and the DNC. But this idea that Fox is somehow
> unbiased is utter bullshit.


Fox is the only network, to my knowledge, that admitted to falsifying news stories because they are an entertainment network.

Granted because of the case I'm sure that CNN and MSNBC jumped on the bandwagon, considering how popular Fox is.

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Re: The Beginning of the End of Glenn Beck?
Posted by: FurfaxTownie ()
Date: August 12, 2009 09:38AM

>Fox is the only network, to my knowledge, that admitted to falsifying news stories because they are an entertainment network.

Please enlighted me.

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Re: The Beginning of the End of Glenn Beck?
Posted by: hop ()
Date: August 12, 2009 09:44AM

The Savage Nation will be replacing Beck soon...

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Re: The Beginning of the End of Glenn Beck?
Date: August 12, 2009 10:57AM

Professor Pangloss Wrote:
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>
> Fox is the only network, to my knowledge, that
> admitted to falsifying news stories because they
> are an entertainment network.
>
> Granted because of the case I'm sure that CNN and
> MSNBC jumped on the bandwagon, considering how
> popular Fox is.


CNN admitted to withholding embarrassing stories about the Bush Administration back in 2003 and 2004 because they didn't want to have their access to the White House cut off by Rove. Most of the cable networks are fucking cowards.

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Re: The Beginning of the End of Glenn Beck?
Posted by: hop ()
Date: August 12, 2009 11:16AM

Other news organizations such as NBC/MSNBC shamefully promote the Obama agenda because their parent company (GE) is receiving huge TARP funds (GE Finance - hey it's a bank now!), and of course the are on the receiving end of the Green Initiatives (solar, wind turbines, etc). Rick Santelli CNBC has been put back in line with the corporate message.

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Re: The Beginning of the End of Glenn Beck?
Date: August 12, 2009 12:15PM

WashingTone-Locian Wrote:
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> Professor Pangloss Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
>
> >
> > Fox is the only network, to my knowledge, that
> > admitted to falsifying news stories because
> they
> > are an entertainment network.
> >
> > Granted because of the case I'm sure that CNN
> and
> > MSNBC jumped on the bandwagon, considering how
> > popular Fox is.
>
>
> CNN admitted to withholding embarrassing stories
> about the Bush Administration back in 2003 and
> 2004 because they didn't want to have their access
> to the White House cut off by Rove. Most of the
> cable networks are fucking cowards.


I am unaware of this. It's not surprising (unfortunately).

As to the request for enlightenment (FurfaxTownie):

http://www.projectcensored.org/top-stories/articles/11-the-media-can-legally-lie/
http://www.articlearchives.com/law-legal-system/trial-procedure-appellate-decisions/829949-1.html
http://www.thefreelibrary.com/The+media+can+legally+lie-a0126529447

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Re: The Beginning of the End of Glenn Beck?
Posted by: Registered Voter ()
Date: August 12, 2009 01:32PM

Professor Pangloss Wrote:
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> As to the request for enlightenment
> (FurfaxTownie):
>
> http://www.projectcensored.org/top-stories/article
> s/11-the-media-can-legally-lie/

Look at all their other articles.... they report on re-instatement of the draft which was introduced by Wrangle. There was very little talk of a draft by anyone other than him, regardless of the other conspiratorial meanderings they went through.

> http://www.articlearchives.com/law-legal-system/tr
> ial-procedure-appellate-decisions/829949-1.html
> http://www.thefreelibrary.com/The+media+can+legall
> y+lie-a0126529447

These two sites are copies of each other - they both have the exact same article, which is merely a copy of the article from the first site.

The FOX story was true in as much as the local FOX affiliate directed these folks to make changes to their story. I am sure it was on par with what happened to Dan Rather, and has certainly been used in the past to slant many other stories by many other news organizations. They just choose to hide that fact - whereas in the lawsuits filed (on appeal), the court chose to recognize the filings from the other news organizations noting that they agreed with the practice.

Does that mean it is good? No. It just means that, as was pointed out, the other news organizations do it also, they just don't admit it.

If you can’t model the past, where you know the answer pretty well, how can you model the future? - William Happer Cyrus Fogg Brackett Professor of Physics Princeton University

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Re: The Beginning of the End of Glenn Beck?
Posted by: ThePackLeader ()
Date: August 13, 2009 12:08AM

Wow, the "Huffington Post". Probably the most illegitimate excuse for "Journalism" ever.

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Re: The Beginning of the End of Glenn Beck?
Posted by: Vince(1) ()
Date: August 13, 2009 12:34AM

ThePackLeader Wrote:
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> Wow, the "Huffington Post". Probably the most
> illegitimate excuse for "Journalism" ever.

No..that honor goes to the entire Fox "news" network.

Registered Voter...a Big talking coward..big man on FFXU...little man in life.

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Re: The Beginning of the End of Glenn Beck?
Posted by: Thurston Moore ()
Date: August 13, 2009 03:07AM

WashingTone-Locian Wrote:
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>
> Get real. Fox is a mouthpiece for the RNC. I have
> no problem with you claiming the same with MSNBC
> and the DNC. But this idea that Fox is somehow
> unbiased is utter bullshit.


But they are fair and unbalanced. Oh, I mean, fair and balanced.

If they say it enough times to the dementia and alzheimers crowd, they'll believe it.

Fuck, if they say it enough times to the people who watch cars making left turns 500 times, they'll take it as gospel.

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Re: The Beginning of the End of Glenn Beck?
Posted by: § ()
Date: August 13, 2009 10:14AM

+1 and LOL!

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Re: The Beginning of the End of Glenn Beck?
Posted by: FurfaxTownie ()
Date: August 13, 2009 10:43AM

From my observations they used to me more fair and balance internally with the programming and hosts. Recently though, i do agree, that they have been catering more to the conservative crowd. So perhaps thier "fair and balance" applies to balancing out the rest of the network news organizations. Which is good, because over all absolute power one side is never a good thing.

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Re: The Beginning of the End of Glenn Beck?
Posted by: linda lou ()
Date: August 16, 2009 05:47PM

You lib left wing nuts hate Beck because HE SPEAKS the TRUTH!

Obama is a Communist and you wackos are too stupid to see this!

Go Glenn, YOU ROCK!!

HE is my idol

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Re: The Beginning of the End of Glenn Beck?
Posted by: ThePackLeader ()
Date: August 16, 2009 09:11PM

Vince(1) Wrote:
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> ThePackLeader Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Wow, the "Huffington Post". Probably the most
> > illegitimate excuse for "Journalism" ever.
>
> No..that honor goes to the entire Fox "news"
> network.


I often wonder if arguing with a disillusioned individual is even worth the inevitable ensuing frustration.

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Re: The Beginning of the End of Glenn Beck?
Posted by: Voter ()
Date: August 29, 2009 09:09AM

For those who think the Republicans are starting to get their shit together, I present you this:

Oligarhy [sic]. Really?


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Re: The Beginning of the End of Glenn Beck?
Posted by: Registered Voter ()
Date: August 29, 2009 09:14AM

What's interesting is that his viewer numbers are going through the roof.

Meanwhile MSNBC, CNN, etc are anemic.

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Re: The Beginning of the End of Glenn Beck?
Posted by: Voter ()
Date: August 29, 2009 09:17AM

Interesting, disturbing, yeah--I'll give you that. If you can watch that video and tell me with a straight face that people are watching that because there is something of value in it, I want some of whatever you are smoking.


Registered Voter Wrote:
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> What's interesting is that his viewer numbers are
> going through the roof.
>
> Meanwhile MSNBC, CNN, etc are anemic.

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Re: The Beginning of the End of Glenn Beck?
Posted by: Steve Wilhite ()
Date: August 29, 2009 12:30PM

Read it and weep bitches! This is from this week:


Glenn Beck ratings skyrocket


Note: here’s a more current article on the ratings: O’Reilly-Hannity-Beck go 1-2-3 in cable news ratings again, Fox destroys competition again

The biggest news in cable news this week is the remarkable rise of Glenn Beck at Fox.

Top 10 cable TV shows for 03/13/09His Friday night special drew huge numbers and leapfrogged his show above long-time #2 Sean Hannity. What was CNN thinking when the let this guy get

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Re: The Beginning of the End of Glenn Beck?
Posted by: Voter ()
Date: August 29, 2009 08:23PM

You do realize you are just making my point for me. The fact that Glenn Beck's ratings are rising when he is going straight off the deep end just proves that the majority of the Republican party is completely insane. Anyway, good luck with that.

Steve Wilhite Wrote:
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> Read it and weep bitches! This is from this week:
>
>
> Glenn Beck ratings skyrocket
>
>
> Note: here’s a more current article on the
> ratings: O’Reilly-Hannity-Beck go 1-2-3 in cable
> news ratings again, Fox destroys competition
> again
>
> The biggest news in cable news this week is the
> remarkable rise of Glenn Beck at Fox.
>
> Top 10 cable TV shows for 03/13/09His Friday night
> special drew huge numbers and leapfrogged his show
> above long-time #2 Sean Hannity. What was CNN
> thinking when the let this guy get

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Re: The Beginning of the End of Glenn Beck?
Posted by: linda lou ()
Date: August 29, 2009 09:30PM

Glenn Beck speaks the truth!

He is the best.....HE ROCKS! Keep
up the good work Glenn!

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Re: The Beginning of the End of Glenn Beck?
Posted by: Kenny_Powers ()
Date: August 30, 2009 03:22AM

linda lou Wrote:
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> Glenn Beck speaks the truth!
>
> He is the best.....HE ROCKS! Keep
> up the good work Glenn!


seriously, what drugs are you on, and can i have them too please? this guy is a nut bag. I dont know how many times ive tuned in to watch this mormon douche cry on air, or laugh hysterically at one of his own jokes (that arent even remotely funny.

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Re: The Beginning of the End of Glenn Beck?
Posted by: bloody blisters ()
Date: August 30, 2009 03:39AM

what's "mormon"?

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Re: The Beginning of the End of Glenn Beck?
Posted by: Kenny_Powers ()
Date: August 30, 2009 05:40AM

I was about to make a joke about my bad spelling... but thats the right way to spell it.

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Re: The Beginning of the End of Glenn Beck?
Posted by: Kenny_Powers ()
Date: August 30, 2009 05:41AM

just ask my old friend google.

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Re: The Beginning of the End of Glenn Beck?
Posted by: TheMeeper ()
Date: September 05, 2009 11:38AM

Has Glenn Beck lost his fucking mind??

Seriously, this is to the point where it is almost unbelievable. His assertion: a conspiracy theory about subliminal fascist/socialist symbols in artwork around NBC's studios.


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Re: The Beginning of the End of Glenn Beck?
Posted by: fairfaxdude ()
Date: September 05, 2009 11:56AM

And yet, out in "America", some 10,000,000 whackjobs probably took notes over that "performance", and will soon be out in force with Anti-Nazi signs.

Glen, seriously, TAKE THE THORAZINE!!!!

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Re: The Beginning of the End of Glenn Beck?
Posted by: Registered Voter ()
Date: September 05, 2009 12:31PM

Just because I can't stand Olbermann, here is the full Glenn beck version without the (almost as stupid) monologue of Olbermann involved.



While Glenn Beck was really over the top here, there was still some clever editing by Olbermann. The thing is, a friend of mine has a family member that is a born again Christian, and he talks about these "images in plain sight" things all the time. There are a LOT of Christians out there that are eating this shit up. Olbermann also made his comments to include other folks at FOX that he doesn't like to somehow include them in the theories Glenn Beck was pushing. I think both of them need to be off the air personally.

Kudos to TIME for doing a more credible breakdown of Becks rant:
http://lookingaround.blogs.time.com/2009/09/04/glenn-beck-cracked-symbologist/

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Re: The Beginning of the End of Glenn Beck?
Posted by: TheMeeper ()
Date: September 05, 2009 12:53PM

Registered Voter Wrote:
>
> Olbermann also made his comments to include other folks at FOX that he doesn't like to somehow include them in the theories Glenn Beck was pushing.


He was using satire, something Beck was not using.

I like Olbermann, but think he was being a bit too silly here. I used to think Beck was an amateurish interviewer with political views I disagreed with. Now I can almost imagine him with a beard and turban appearing in some grainy Jihad video. He's seriously that crazy.

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Re: The Beginning of the End of Glenn Beck?
Posted by: Registered Voter ()
Date: September 05, 2009 01:00PM

Ah - interesting, the TIME piece also included a link to a previous TIME article where they explain the mural that Beck talks about in the part Olbermann edited out...

http://205.188.238.109/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1005842-1,00.html
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...
Okrent adroitly retells the famous story of young Nelson Rockefeller's run-in with Diego Rivera, the Mexican artist whose mural for the lobby of the RCA Building--a dreadful kitsch effulgence, by the way--was demolished on Nelson's orders after Rivera slipped in a portrait of Lenin.
...

I guess the fact that there actually was a mural with Lenin in it (that was later taken out) would have tarnished the full image of the satire.

Also, Olbermann didn't have his facts straight either - John D Rockefeller didn't have the place built, his son John Jr. did.

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...
When the Center got under way, nobody was predicting any such thing. The Rockefeller who built the place was not John D., the great, striding patriarch, but John Jr., his self-minimizing son. Ultra-prudent, teetotaling and possessing what Okrent calls a "clenched psyche," Junior--almost everybody called him that or, worse, Mr. Junior--nonetheless managed to launch the massive Rockefeller philanthropic operations. And when his advisers talked him into leasing 11 acres in midtown Manhattan, a deal that required paying $3.6 million a year in rent to Columbia University, he unflinchingly initiated the largest construction project in American history to increase the value of his new holdings.
...

But still, Glenn Beck is a whacko - Olbermann is a buffoon, and both of them need to be off the air.

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Re: The Beginning of the End of Glenn Beck?
Date: September 05, 2009 08:52PM

So is the building communist or fascist? They are two diametrically opposed ideologies. And who is supposedly fascist or communist? Nelson Rockefeller, the Republican VP who oversaw the commissioning of artwork at Rockefeller Center? Or David Sarnoff, the founder of RCA and NBC who was a Russian Jew who was a fierce anti-Communist who advised Presidents? Or is it GE, which was founded by Thomas Edison and is one of the largest defense contractors in the country?

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Re: The Beginning of the End of Glenn Beck?
Posted by: Registered Voter ()
Date: September 05, 2009 10:56PM

The building is Art Deco - as was being used in the world at the time it was created. Granted, when I see stuff like that today it reminds me of the Soviet Union more so than Italy or Europe.

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Re: The Beginning of the End of Glenn Beck?
Posted by: ThePackLeader ()
Date: September 06, 2009 01:03AM

TheMeeper Wrote:
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> Has Glenn Beck lost his fucking mind??
>
> Seriously, this is to the point where it is almost
> unbelievable. His assertion: a conspiracy theory
> about subliminal fascist/socialist symbols in
> artwork around NBC's studios.
>
>


More like Olbermann has lost his mind, if he ever had one in the first place. Olbermann is a joke, as he continuously attempts to make up for his lack of thought processes with oratory that is full of dictionary based studies and double-spoken expertise. It is actually quite surprising in fact, that he isn't yet locked in marriage with the wicked San Francisco Witch of the West.

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Re: The Beginning of the End of Glenn Beck?
Posted by: TheMeeper ()
Date: September 06, 2009 09:16AM

ThePackLeader Wrote:
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>
> More like Olbermann has lost his mind,


I've never heard him espose whacko conspiracy theory like Beck does.

You probably just don't like him because of the [much deserved] ridicule he dishes out to so-called conservative Amercans.

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Re: The Beginning of the End of Glenn Beck?
Posted by: Registered Voter ()
Date: September 06, 2009 09:31AM

An old listing, but interesting:

http://la.indymedia.org/news/2003/04/47530.php

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So ya think we have a "free press" eh? Check out who owns who, and who owns what you think.......

GENERAL ELECTRIC --(donated 1.1 million to GW Bush for his 2000 election campaign)

Television Holdings:
* NBC: includes 13 stations, 28% of US households.
* NBC Network News: The Today Show, Nightly News with Tom Brokaw, Meet the Press, Dateline NBC, NBC News at Sunrise.
* CNBC business television; MSNBC 24-hour cable and Internet news service (co-owned by NBC and Microsoft); Court TV (co-owned with Time Warner), Bravo (50%), A&E (25%), History Channel (25%).
The "MS" in MSNBC
means microsoft
The same Microsoft that donated 2.4 million to get GW bush elected.

Other Holdings:
* GE Consumer Electronics.
* GE Power Systems: produces turbines for nuclear reactors and power plants.
* GE Plastics: produces military hardware and nuclear power equipment.
* GE Transportation Systems: runs diesel and electric trains.
==================================================

WESTINGHOUSE / CBS INC.
Westinghouse Electric Company, part of the Nuclear Utilities Business Group of British Nuclear Fuels (BNFL)
whos #1 on the Board of Directors? None other than:
Frank Carlucci (of the Carlyle Group)

Television Holdings:
* CBS: includes 14 stations and over 200 affiliates in the US.
* CBS Network News: 60 minutes, 48 hours, CBS Evening News with Dan Rather, CBS Morning News, Up to the Minute.
* Country Music Television, The Nashville Network, 2 regional sports networks.
* Group W Satellite Communications.
Other Holdings:
* Westinghouse Electric Company: provides services to the nuclear power industry.
* Westinghouse Government Environmental Services Company: disposes of nuclear and hazardous wastes. Also operates 4 government-owned nuclear power plants in the US.
* Energy Systems: provides nuclear power plant design and maintenance.
================================================================
VIACOM INTERNATIONAL INC.
Television Holdings:
* Paramount Television, Spelling Television, MTV, VH-1, Showtime, The Movie Channel, UPN (joint owner), Nickelodeon, Comedy Central, Sundance Channel (joint owner), Flix.
* 20 major market US stations.
Media Holdings:
* Paramount Pictures, Paramount Home Video, Blockbuster Video, Famous Players Theatres, Paramount Parks.
* Simon & Schuster Publishing.
=============================================
DISNEY / ABC / CAP (donated 640 thousand to GW's 2000 campaign)
Television Holdings:
* ABC: includes 10 stations, 24% of US households.
* ABC Network News: Prime Time Live, Nightline, 20/20, Good Morning America.
* ESPN, Lifetime Television (50%), as well as minority holdings in A&E, History Channel and E!
* Disney Channel/Disney Television, Touchtone Television.
Media Holdings:
* Miramax, Touchtone Pictures.
* Magazines: Jane, Los Angeles Magazine, W, Discover.
* 3 music labels, 11 major local newspapers.
* Hyperion book publishers.
* Infoseek Internet search engine (43%).
Other Holdings:
* Sid R. Bass (major shares) crude oil and gas.
* All Disney Theme Parks, Walt Disney Cruise Lines.
======================================================

TIME-WARNER TBS - AOL (donated 1.6 million to GW's 2000 campaign)
America Online (AOL) acquired Time Warner–the largest merger in corporate history.
Television Holdings:
* CNN, HBO, Cinemax, TBS Superstation, Turner Network Television, Turner Classic Movies, Warner Brothers Television, Cartoon Network, Sega Channel, TNT, Comedy Central (50%), E! (49%), Court TV (50%).
* Largest owner of cable systems in the US with an estimated 13 million subscribers.
Media Holdings:
* HBO Independent Productions, Warner Home Video, New Line Cinema, Castle Rock, Looney Tunes, Hanna-Barbera.
* Music: Atlantic, Elektra, Rhino, Sire, Warner Bros. Records, EMI, WEA, Sub Pop (distribution) = the world’s largest music company.
* 33 magazines including Time, Sports Illustrated, People, In Style, Fortune, Book of the Month Club, Entertainment Weekly, Life, DC Comics (50%), and MAD Magazine.
Other Holdings:
* Sports: The Atlanta Braves, The Atlanta Hawks, World Championship Wrestling.
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NEWS CORPORATION LTD. / FOX NETWORKS (Rupert Murdoch) (donations see bottom note)
Television Holdings:
* Fox Television: includes 22 stations, 50% of US households.
* Fox International: extensive worldwide cable and satellite networks include British Sky Broadcasting (40%); VOX, Germany (49.9%); Canal Fox, Latin America; FOXTEL, Australia (50%); STAR TV, Asia; IskyB, India; Bahasa Programming Ltd., Indonesia (50%); and News Broadcasting, Japan (80%).
* The Golf Channel (33%).
MEDIA HOLDINGS:
* Twentieth Century Fox, Fox Searchlight.
* 132 newspapers (113 in Australia alone) including the New York Post, the London Times and The Australian.
* 25 magazines including TV Guide and The Weekly Standard.
* HarperCollins books.
OTHER HOLDINGS:
* Sports: LA Dodgers, LA Kings, LA Lakers, National Rugby League.
* Ansett Australia airlines, Ansett New Zealand airlines.
* Rupert Murdoch: Board of Directors, Philip Morris (USA).

I look at this list, and look back on the complaints I have heard about corporate interests - and if I had to pick news outlets based on their holdings I would go with ABC (be interesting to see where they have been on cap and trade) and FOX and CNN. Viacom would be on the list, but with the direction MTV took after it was launched many years ago, I think they have decided to just promote things to make folks braindead. I won't even let my kids watch Nickelodeon anymore.



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Re: The Beginning of the End of Glenn Beck?
Date: September 06, 2009 10:22AM

ThePackLeader Wrote:
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> TheMeeper Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Has Glenn Beck lost his fucking mind??
> >
> > Seriously, this is to the point where it is
> almost
> > unbelievable. His assertion: a conspiracy
> theory
> > about subliminal fascist/socialist symbols in
> > artwork around NBC's studios.
> >
> >
>
>
> More like Olbermann has lost his mind, if he ever
> had one in the first place. Olbermann is a joke,
> as he continuously attempts to make up for his
> lack of thought processes with oratory that is
> full of dictionary based studies and double-spoken
> expertise. It is actually quite surprising in
> fact, that he isn't yet locked in marriage with
> the wicked San Francisco Witch of the West.


While Olbermann is often over the top in style and has a tendency to do the Michael Moore thing of only exposing part of the truth and not the whole truth, Glenn Beck and, to a lesser degree, Hannity and O'Reilly, weave a cloth of wholesale insanity out of NOTHING.

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Re: The Beginning of the End of Glenn Beck?
Posted by: Registered Voter ()
Date: September 06, 2009 10:51AM

WashingTone-Locian Wrote:
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>
> While Olbermann is often over the top in style and
> has a tendency to do the Michael Moore thing of
> only exposing part of the truth and not the whole
> truth, Glenn Beck and, to a lesser degree, Hannity
> and O'Reilly, weave a cloth of wholesale insanity
> out of NOTHING.

And yet, they have the highest viewership of all the cable channels (and some of the MSM) around. Maybe you all should talk to the educators and such and get them to figure out how to actually educate kids in schools so that the private religious schools and home schooled kids don't consistently beat them out on national proficiency test scores (that aren't geared to only measure how public schools are now teaching the kids).

http://nces.ed.gov/nationsreportcard/pubs/studies/2006461.asp

Note: Many of the charter school programs are great - the problem is they have acceptance criteria and also require certain levels of scoring to maintain attendance. If you take the overall average of public schools, the results are not that great.



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Re: The Beginning of the End of Glenn Beck?
Posted by: fairfaxdude ()
Date: September 06, 2009 10:59AM

Registered Voter Wrote:

> And yet, they have the highest viewership of all
> the cable channels (and some of the MSM) around.


Reggie, muh man.. that's like saying the Washington Redskins are the "most successful" NFL team because of their "value", even after years of offering a sub-par product, anti-fan business practices, and now, the recent reveals about their ticket practices.

Rabid fans really aren't very rational, are they?

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Re: The Beginning of the End of Glenn Beck?
Posted by: Registered Voter ()
Date: September 06, 2009 11:02AM

Regardless. The point is, the ratings matter to media outlets. The fact that they are popular really irks the liberals - yet these folks are still expanding their operations while many liberal outlets are declining in viewership and circulation. So what is the answer?

I am asking honestly. I just think the results are showing something - regardless of your view that these folks are the "uneducated" - it appears they have the larger active viewership.

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Re: The Beginning of the End of Glenn Beck?
Date: September 06, 2009 11:19AM

Registered Voter Wrote:
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> And yet, they have the highest viewership of all
> the cable channels (and some of the MSM) around.
> Maybe you all should talk to the educators and
> such and get them to figure out how to actually
> educate kids in schools so that the private
> religious schools and home schooled kids don't
> consistently beat them out on national proficiency
> test scores (that aren't geared to only measure
> how public schools are now teaching the kids).
>
> http://nces.ed.gov/nationsreportcard/pubs/studies/
> 2006461.asp
>
> Note: Many of the charter school programs are
> great - the problem is they have acceptance
> criteria and also require certain levels of
> scoring to maintain attendance. If you take the
> overall average of public schools, the results are
> not that great.



I guess you forgot to read the report. You forgot these caveats...

For Reading...

After adjusting for selected student characteristics, the difference in means was near zero and not significant.

For Math...

After adjusting for selected student characteristics, the difference in means was -4.5 and significantly different from zero. (Note that a negative difference implies that the average school mean was higher for public schools.)

In other words, when you compare kids with the same socio-economic and parental backgrounds, public school kids test on par with private school students in reading and are superior in math.

The reason why private schools and charter schools as a whole do better than public schools is because they select out the better students. If a kid goes into private school with discipline problems, the private school can kick the kid out. There is no evidence at all that private schools are better at educating kids than public schools. As for home schooling, pulling out occasional anecdotal stories of home school kids winning a spelling bee or having a perfect score on the SAT doesn't mean those few instances represent the general home school population.

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Re: The Beginning of the End of Glenn Beck?
Posted by: Registered Voter ()
Date: September 06, 2009 11:21AM

And yet, overall public schools are still doing worse.

I didn't disregard it at all in the report:

Quote

Note: Many of the charter school programs are great - the problem is they have acceptance criteria and also require certain levels of scoring to maintain attendance. If you take the overall average of public schools, the results are not that great.

That is the reality of what they are saying.

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Date: September 06, 2009 11:21AM

Registered Voter Wrote:
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> Regardless. The point is, the ratings matter to
> media outlets. The fact that they are popular
> really irks the liberals - yet these folks are
> still expanding their operations while many
> liberal outlets are declining in viewership and
> circulation. So what is the answer?
>
> I am asking honestly. I just think the results are
> showing something - regardless of your view that
> these folks are the "uneducated" - it appears they
> have the larger active viewership.



If you look at the number of Republicans who voted in the 2008 election, less than five percent watch Glenn Beck or Fox. Yet these idiots supposedly speak for all Republicans.

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Re: The Beginning of the End of Glenn Beck?
Posted by: Registered Voter ()
Date: September 06, 2009 11:25AM

So presuming the rest of the folks watch or read little to no news at all - it would be safe to assume that most of them are "soundbite media junkies"? Which doesn't speak well for any of them if that is true.

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Re: The Beginning of the End of Glenn Beck?
Date: September 06, 2009 11:27AM

Registered Voter Wrote:
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> And yet, overall public schools are still doing
> worse.
>
> I didn't disregard it at all in the report:
>
>
> Note: Many of the charter school programs are
> great - the problem is they have acceptance
> criteria and also require certain levels of
> scoring to maintain attendance. If you take the
> overall average of public schools, the results are
> not that great.
>
>
> That is the reality of what they are saying.



Bullshit you didn't disregard it. This is exactly what you wrote...

Maybe you all should talk to the educators and such and get them to figure out how to actually educate kids in schools so that the private religious schools and home schooled kids don't consistently beat them out on national proficiency test scores (that aren't geared to only measure how public schools are now teaching the kids).

The NCES report shows that public schools DO educate kids in schools as well, or better, than private schools. Some kids are going to be ditch diggers no matter how hard you try to educate them. Private schools have the luxury of not admitting these kids. If private schools had to, their scores would be as bad, or worse, than public schools.

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Re: The Beginning of the End of Glenn Beck?
Posted by: Registered Voter ()
Date: September 06, 2009 11:32AM

From the report itself:

Quote

Public versus all private schools analyses
NAEP results typically show a higher average score for
private school students than for public school students
(Perie, Vanneman, and Goldstein 2005). A question
naturally follows: How large is the average difference
in achievement between the two types of schools, after
adjusting for differences in student characteristics? To
answer the question, school means adjusted for student
characteristics are estimated through a standard linear
regression.

So, if you adjust for student characteristics - ie weed out all the underachievers, you find the results are very similar. Hmm.

EDIT: These are the same folks that make the point about using statistical analysis will balance out the Census numbers better.



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Re: The Beginning of the End of Glenn Beck?
Posted by: fairfaxdude ()
Date: September 06, 2009 11:33AM

Registered Voter Wrote:
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> Regardless. The point is, the ratings matter to
> media outlets. The fact that they are popular
> really irks the liberals - yet these folks are
> still expanding their operations while many
> liberal outlets are declining in viewership and
> circulation. So what is the answer?
>
> I am asking honestly. I just think the results are
> showing something - regardless of your view that
> these folks are the "uneducated" - it appears they
> have the larger active viewership.

That wasn't the point you were making, or even insinuating, Reggie, muh man.

"I am asking honestly"? LOL, bullshit. Your point, and you've attempted to make it several times recently, was/is that FOX's numbers infer agreement with their perspective, and what they choose to call "news".

In other words, the huge popularity of Seinfeld over a 10 year broadcast period means a majority of the population supports "soup-Naziism".

LOL, you douchebag.

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Re: The Beginning of the End of Glenn Beck?
Posted by: Registered Voter ()
Date: September 06, 2009 11:37AM

FF, insinuate yourself DUDE.

I am pointing out that these guys have the highest cable viewership - period. If that is the case, and since you all tend to characterize their viewers as uneducated, religious nutjobs, perhaps you can explain that fact - given the light of studies showing that private schools tend to have better results/expectations.

If, as you all point out all the time these folks are uneducated, where are all the educated folks getting their news, since only a small number of Americans appear to watch TV, or read the newspapers? Going down that road - then all Americans are pretty stupid, and I lay that squarely back at the feet of the "public" education system.

I am just following the logic you all present here and trying to understand the conclusions I should draw.



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Re: The Beginning of the End of Glenn Beck?
Date: September 06, 2009 11:37AM

Registered Voter Wrote:
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> From the report itself:
>
>
> Public versus all private schools analyses
> NAEP results typically show a higher average score
> for
> private school students than for public school
> students
> (Perie, Vanneman, and Goldstein 2005). A question
> naturally follows: How large is the average
> difference
> in achievement between the two types of schools,
> after
> adjusting for differences in student
> characteristics? To
> answer the question, school means adjusted for
> student
> characteristics are estimated through a standard
> linear
> regression.
>
>
> So, if you adjust for student characteristics - ie
> weed out all the underachievers, you find the
> results are very similar. Hmm.

Jesus. Did you go to a private school? They are talking about comparing similar socio-economic conditions.

For instance, if a kid has two parents at home and books at home, how will that kid perform in school? NAEP has determined that these kids will perform much better than kids with single parents and without books at home.

In a typical private school, it is safe to assume that a much larger percentage of kids have two parents in the home and books at home. They have also had pre-K education. In public schools, those percentages are much lower.

To compare the performance of a narrowly focused demographic against a general population is scientifically dubious. You need to compare similar cohorts or you really are comparing apples to oranges.

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Re: The Beginning of the End of Glenn Beck?
Posted by: Registered Voter ()
Date: September 06, 2009 01:04PM

Kind of hard to do right? Being that many more poor kids attend public schools and their parents can't afford private ones. So if we just take rich kids attending public schools versus rich kids attending private schools, the results are:

"public wins"?

I have yet to find any study that shows that conclusively in any form. As a matter of fact, the sites comparing public versus private school choice tend to overstate the issue and emphasize public schools better - usually because they are free - then try to disqualify Private Schools due to lack of services for learning challenged kids and programs. But very little emphasis on "well, public education is so much better"

Here, I will do an impersonation of Glenn Beck and go through a site that purports to give an unbiased opinion of how to choose a school...

http://www.greatschools.net/

School Choice: What Are Your Options?
http://www.greatschools.net/find-a-school/defining-your-ideal/school-choice-your-options.gs?content=1163&page=all

The Directors:

http://www.ajcolonconsulting.com/
Quote

...
Prior to working with FFC, Colón served as Vice President of the Center for Community Educational Excellence at the National Council of La Raza, the largest constituency-based Hispanic organization in the U.S.
...

http://www.ed.gov/offices/OS/cortines.html
Quote

...
He is appointed Honorary Adjunct Associate Professor of Education by the Trustees of Teachers College, Columbia University and also holds an appointment as Associate in Education, Harvard University Graduate School of Education.
...

Also head of the Los Angeles Unified School DIstrict
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ramon_C._Cortines

Bill Jackson - Founder - Interesting...
http://www.edexcellence.net/flypaper/index.php/2009/07/education-change-agent-bill-jackson-founder-and-ceo-greatschools/

Comes from this program:
????
http://www.coro.org/site/c.geJNIUOzErH/b.2083541/k.ED76/CORO_Home.htm



Lawrence T. Kane
http://www.orrick.com/lawyers/Bio.asp?ID=7034
Another Columbia University friend.

Leanna Landsmann - Co-Chair
http://www.scripps.edu/newsandviews/e_20090713/council.html
Interesting - on her campaign money contributions she lists herself as retired/not employed. She used to be the head of Time for Kids. Heavy supporter of Obama and previous Democratic candidates. But, she is one of the folks here who seems to have a decent agenda.

http://aplusadvice.com/aboutleanna.htm

Sean Ryan - pushing virtual globalization
http://www.virtualgoodsnews.com/2008/12/meez-alternative-payment-systems-boost-revenue-525.html
http://www.gamezebo.com/features/interviews/interview-sean-ryan-meez
Although VH1 gamers don't like him much:
http://vh1.blogs.com/vh1_games//2008/02/idiot-of-the-we.html

Michael Schmier, Board Treasurer - he has a lot of circular references on the Internet, not much info.
http://www.tradevibes.com/person/profile/michael-schmier
http://www.linksv.com/profSummary/46008/Schmier,Michael
http://www.tippit.com/about-us/leadership-team/#schmier

Alan Tripp
http://www.insidetrack.com/about/members/alan_tripp/
Funny...
Quote

...
As the founder and CEO of SCORE!, he helped to grow the company to nearly 100 centers with more than 1,500 employees. SCORE! is now a unit of The Washington Post Company
...

Dr. Jerry Wartgow, Co-Chair
http://www.all4ed.org/files/Wartgow_PIL.pdf
http://newtalk.org/experts/JerryWartgow
http://www.linkedin.com/pub/jerry-wartgow/11/14b/73b
http://www.denverpost.com/education/ci_8587783
He at least advocates for High Expectations in leading school districts.

EDIT: Conclusion... A lot of pie in the sky, but little to offer conclusively in support of Public Schools other than working to improve them (and some of the folks would be considered pretty scary to right wingers looking to figure out where to send their kids).



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Re: The Beginning of the End of Glenn Beck?
Posted by: fairfaxdude ()
Date: September 06, 2009 08:04PM

Reggie, Reggie, Reggie.....you've lost your ever-loving mind, son.

21 links in ONE post?

Cant you just stick with "I know you're not, but what am I" as your rejoinder?

Honestly, I hope there are meds for your condition.

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Re: The Beginning of the End of Glenn Beck?
Date: September 06, 2009 08:22PM

RV-

Thanks for spending so much time reinforcing the fact you don't know enough about educational testing to offer a valid reason why private education is supposedly better than public education at teaching. The fact is, as you see in the NCES data you cited, private schools are not any more effective at teaching their target demographic than are public schools at teaching that same target demographic.

It's not about poor kids getting access to private schools. It is about kids from family and community situations where education is inconsequential at best and a liability at worse. It's about communities where the biggest role model is the most successful drug dealer in the neighborhood. It's about families where the kids don't study at night because the mom's boyfriend is beating the shit out of her again. It's about kids whose first exposure to the ABCs is Kindergarten. It's about families were little Maria's time is valued more for watching the younger kids at home than in attending class.

You have no idea why public education is the way it is. It's because a large percentage of kids are fucked up when they enter the system. For the majority of the fucked up kids, no amount of phonics or "new math" is going to fix it.

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Re: The Beginning of the End of Glenn Beck?
Posted by: Registered Voter ()
Date: September 07, 2009 01:50PM

No - I understand just fine. I was merely pointing out how sites that purport to promote better education are nothing more than fronts for more of the same. You think health care is broken? Look at education. You sit here and tell me how off-base my assumptions are? WTL, you are so blind it is funny. Great, so public schools teach to the current standardized testing regime. If you want to deny that then you are being as blindly "faithful" to the current reasons behind the inadequacies of the education system as you accuse me of not understanding them.

And why are the kids fucked up? That's a question it should be interesting to see you try and answer.

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Re: The Beginning of the End of Glenn Beck?
Posted by: Registered Voter ()
Date: September 07, 2009 01:52PM

fairfaxdude Wrote:
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> 21 links in ONE post?
>

Fuck off FF

I said I was merely doing a Glenn Beck imitation. If you can't read the instructions you shouldn't be part of the conversation.

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Re: The Beginning of the End of Glenn Beck?
Posted by: fairfaxdude ()
Date: September 07, 2009 02:02PM

Ouch....touch a nerve there, Reggie, muh man?

LOL

Don't you have 30 hours of Glen Beck TIVO-ed for a holiday? Better run along now, and tee those up! Use the warming lube--I hear it's much more satisfactory.

LOL

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Posted by: Registered Voter ()
Date: September 07, 2009 02:09PM

fairfaxdude Wrote:
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Re: The Beginning of the End of Glenn Beck?
Posted by: GDF Vince ()
Date: September 07, 2009 03:22PM

Not the building you lib idiot, the fucking mural!

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Re: The Beginning of the End of Glenn Beck?
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Date: November 06, 2009 09:28AM


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Re: The Beginning of the End of Glenn Beck?
Posted by: Voter ()
Date: November 26, 2009 08:24PM

What happens when Beck fans and Palin fans collide?

BECK: I don't think things are hoots. I don't. I don't think it's a hoot. I would never use the word hoot, and I respectfully ask that every time my name is brought up she would stop using the word 'hoot.' [...]
No, no I'm just saying -- Beck-Palin, I'll consider. But Palin-Beck -- can you imagine, can you imagine what an administration with the two of us would be like? What? Come on! She'd be yapping or something, and I'd say, "I'm sorry, why am I hearing your voice? I'm not in the kitchen."

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Re: The Beginning of the End of Glenn Beck?
Posted by: Registered Voter ()
Date: November 26, 2009 08:36PM

Might have wanted a new thread for that last Voter - not like Beck has gone anywhere. Seems like Fox revenue and ratings have been doing just fine. He still has a show, and based on the periodic Drudge postings their audience looks to have gotten even larger.

Must be something in the food...

If you can’t model the past, where you know the answer pretty well, how can you model the future? - William Happer Cyrus Fogg Brackett Professor of Physics Princeton University

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Re: The Beginning of the End of Glenn Beck?
Posted by: mark j ()
Date: November 26, 2009 09:15PM

Glenn Beck rules!

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Re: The Beginning of the End of Glenn Beck?
Posted by: Numbers ()
Date: November 27, 2009 12:46AM

I think a lot of people watch Glenn Beck for the comedic value of it. Everyone loves watching him fake crying and saying silly stuff. It makes for great water cooler chat.

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Date: November 27, 2009 12:58AM


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Re: The Beginning of the End of Glenn Beck?
Posted by: ThePackLeader ()
Date: November 27, 2009 07:47PM

Re: the left's latest boogeyman Wrote:
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I had no idea that Penn considered himself more of a Conservative person.

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Re: The Beginning of the End of Glenn Beck?
Date: November 27, 2009 08:10PM

First, Penn is a Libertarian, not a Conservative. Second, the issue Tommy Smothers has, I believe, is that the Smothers Brothers was cancelled by William Paley despite the show's high ratings because the Smothers Brothers questioned the U.S. presence in Vietnam as early as 1966. That's what the issue was with Tommy Smothers toward Penn, comparing Glenn Beck's situation to theirs. It's not the same.

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Re: The Beginning of the End of Glenn Beck?
Posted by: Vince(1) ()
Date: November 28, 2009 09:09AM

The world continued to turn without the Smothers Brothers...the world will continue to do so without Glenn Beck.

Registered Voter...a Big talking coward..big man on FFXU...little man in life.

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Re: The Beginning of the End of Glenn Beck?
Posted by: Registered Voter ()
Date: November 28, 2009 10:39AM

Vince(1) Wrote:
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> The world continued to turn without the Smothers
> Brothers...the world will continue to do so
> without Glenn Beck.

And yet - he isn't going away.

But good to see your delusions are going on strongly.

If you can’t model the past, where you know the answer pretty well, how can you model the future? - William Happer Cyrus Fogg Brackett Professor of Physics Princeton University

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Re: The Beginning of the End of Glenn Beck?
Posted by: Voter ()
Date: November 28, 2009 12:17PM

I agree it's not likely that people like Beck and Palin are going anywhere anytime soon, I just can't figure out why some Republicans are apparently proud of that. I would be embarrassed to have those two as the face of my party.

Registered Voter Wrote:
>
> And yet - he isn't going away.
>
> But good to see your delusions are going on
> strongly.

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Re: The Beginning of the End of Glenn Beck?
Posted by: Numbers ()
Date: November 28, 2009 05:30PM

I keep forgetting, exactly what is Glenn Becks talent?
What did he do before getting his show?

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Re: The Beginning of the End of Glenn Beck?
Posted by: Dude ()
Date: November 28, 2009 07:34PM

He was a 'thinker'--or put another way, a raging alcoholic.

Numbers Wrote:
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> I keep forgetting, exactly what is Glenn Becks
> talent?
> What did he do before getting his show?

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Re: The Beginning of the End of Glenn Beck?
Posted by: Registered Voter ()
Date: November 28, 2009 08:12PM

Numbers Wrote:
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> I keep forgetting, exactly what is Glenn Becks
> talent?
> What did he do before getting his show?

He was a human being.

What talent do you have? Does it matter?

If you can’t model the past, where you know the answer pretty well, how can you model the future? - William Happer Cyrus Fogg Brackett Professor of Physics Princeton University

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Re: The Beginning of the End of Glenn Beck?
Posted by: Vince(1) ()
Date: November 28, 2009 09:02PM

Registered Voter Wrote:
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> Numbers Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > I keep forgetting, exactly what is Glenn Becks
> > talent?
> > What did he do before getting his show?
>
> He was a human being.
>
> What talent do you have? Does it matter?


Beck...OReilly...and Rush are poor examples of human beings..they are cynical people who would drag their country through the dirt to earn a dime. Sort of like you RV...a U.S. hating cynical scum bag.

Registered Voter...a Big talking coward..big man on FFXU...little man in life.

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Re: The Beginning of the End of Glenn Beck?
Posted by: Registered Voter ()
Date: November 28, 2009 09:06PM

There you go projecting again Vince. I happen to love my country - you are the only real hate spewing racist here, although there have been a couple of trolls that make racists comments, you are the MOST consistent on hate spew.

If you can’t model the past, where you know the answer pretty well, how can you model the future? - William Happer Cyrus Fogg Brackett Professor of Physics Princeton University

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Re: The Beginning of the End of Glenn Beck?
Posted by: 9/12 ()
Date: November 28, 2009 09:17PM

I love Glenn Beck, I watch his program every evening at 5pm on Fox News.

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Re: The Beginning of the End of Glenn Beck?
Posted by: Numbers ()
Date: November 28, 2009 09:46PM

Registered Voter Wrote:
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> He was a human being.

So all you need to get your own show is to be a human being?



> What talent do you have?

Not to blow my own horn here, but I think I actually have many talents (or so people have told me). But even though I feel I have more talent in my left pinky than Glenn Beck will ever have, I doubt I could the exec's to give me my own TV program.
Maybe he pulled one of his crying acts and the folks at Fox knew they were on to something big?


> Does it matter?

Apparently not to you and the hoards of white trash that take whatever he says as the gospel.

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Re: The Beginning of the End of Glenn Beck?
Posted by: Registered Voter ()
Date: November 28, 2009 10:03PM

So you don't qualify as white trash then? Or a racial equivalent?

I don't believe in all that Glenn beck says - I certainly don't watch him enough to take anything he says as "gospel" - but I do believe the folks that founded this country would puke if they saw what it looked like today, and how people have perverted religious tolerance into an epithet. Granted, religion hasn't done itself any favors, but that is more of a problem with the people then it is what they teach.

I suppose the folks that follow Obama could be accused of the same thing as far as "gospel" goes. I find it funny how folks want to discount Fox and the folks that watch them - yet they have the highest ratings of all of them. It is starting to sound a lot like "crying" and "whining" much like they do about Limbaugh. They just can't seem to understand why the "liberal" radio shows can't get market share... The answer is obvious there - no one wants to listen to a bunch of self-righteous prigs that think they have the answers to every woe of society - all of them tied up in making the Federal Government some kind of nanny savior.

If you can’t model the past, where you know the answer pretty well, how can you model the future? - William Happer Cyrus Fogg Brackett Professor of Physics Princeton University

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Re: The Beginning of the End of Glenn Beck?
Posted by: eesh ()
Date: November 28, 2009 10:04PM

Numbers Wrote:
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> > Does it matter?
>
> Apparently not to you and the hoards of white
> trash that take whatever he says as the gospel.

+1

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Re: The Beginning of the End of Glenn Beck?
Posted by: Registered Voter ()
Date: November 28, 2009 10:05PM

eesh Wrote:
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> Numbers Wrote:
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> >
> > > Does it matter?
> >
> > Apparently not to you and the hoards of white
> > trash that take whatever he says as the gospel.
>
> +1
>

If you can’t model the past, where you know the answer pretty well, how can you model the future? - William Happer Cyrus Fogg Brackett Professor of Physics Princeton University
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Re: The Beginning of the End of Glenn Beck?
Posted by: eesh ()
Date: November 28, 2009 10:07PM

LOL

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Re: The Beginning of the End of Glenn Beck?
Posted by: BBeesh ()
Date: November 28, 2009 10:10PM

Don't I look fabulously fierce?


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Re: The Beginning of the End of Glenn Beck?
Posted by: Numbers ()
Date: November 29, 2009 01:04AM

Registered Voter Wrote:
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> So you don't qualify as white trash then? Or a
> racial equivalent?


No.


> I don't believe in all that Glenn beck says - I
> certainly don't watch him enough to take anything
> he says as "gospel" - but I do believe the folks
> that founded this country would puke if they saw
> what it looked like today,


I agree with you here, but for different reasons that relate more to the public education system, taxes and defense. Im sure George, Ben, Thomas and the others would also be appalled at how religion has infiltrated the government and made it virtually impossible for a publicly non-religious person to ever get elected president.



> and how people have
> perverted religious tolerance into an epithet.
> Granted, religion hasn't done itself any favors,
> but that is more of a problem with the people then
> it is what they teach.

It depends on the curriculum. If they actually teach the old testament, which is what christianity and judaism is based on, there is very little tolerance toward anyone from God. In fact, we should all thank are lucky stars that it's all bullshit because God is a psychopathic, blood thirsty, delusional madman. Try reading Genesis one day and tell me what you think.


> I suppose the folks that follow Obama could be
> accused of the same thing as far as "gospel" goes.

They're crazy and delusional too. It doesn't help any case when you compare crazy people against other crazy people. Anyone that blindly follows ANY politician or political party is insane.


> I find it funny how folks want to discount Fox and
> the folks that watch them - yet they have the
> highest ratings of all of them.


At one point Brittany Spears had the number 1 record out. It doesn't mean she's the best musician out there. It's more of a sad reflection of a society that gets more dumbed down each year due to a dismal education system. Fox knows this and targets it.


> It is starting to
> sound a lot like "crying" and "whining" much like
> they do about Limbaugh. They just can't seem to
> understand why the "liberal" radio shows can't get
> market share... The answer is obvious there - no
> one wants to listen to a bunch of self-righteous
> prigs that think they have the answers to every
> woe of society - all of them tied up in making the
> Federal Government some kind of nanny savior.


Or maybe it's because the non-Limbaugh/Beck people have better things to do with their time than sit and listen to political talk shows. I know I do.
I don't need anyone, from the left or the right telling me what to do. All I ask for from a news program is the straight up facts, not some assholes opinion or some "expert" that they yanked out of the blue at a moments notice.

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Re: The Beginning of the End of Glenn Beck?
Posted by: ThePackLeader ()
Date: November 29, 2009 04:00AM

Vince(1) Wrote:
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> Registered Voter Wrote:
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> > Numbers Wrote:
> >
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> > -----
> > > I keep forgetting, exactly what is Glenn
> Becks
> > > talent?
> > > What did he do before getting his show?
> >
> > He was a human being.
> >
> > What talent do you have? Does it matter?
>
>
> Beck...OReilly...and Rush are poor examples of
> human beings..they are cynical people who would
> drag their country through the dirt to earn a
> dime. Sort of like you RV...a U.S. hating cynical
> scum bag.


Yeah, because Olbermann and Maher are just so full of love and joy.

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Re: The Beginning of the End of Glenn Beck?
Posted by: Alias ()
Date: November 29, 2009 04:15AM

Numbers wrote:
"Im sure George, Ben, Thomas and the others would also be appalled at how religion has infiltrated the government and made it virtually impossible for a publicly non-religious person to ever get elected president."
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George Washington wrote:
"Do not let any one claim to be a true American if they ever attempt to remove religion from politics."


Numbers wrote:
"In fact, we should all thank are lucky stars that it's all bullshit because God is a psychopathic, blood thirsty, delusional madman.

Who is the madman?

I hope you're in hospice care.

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