HomeFairfax General ForumArrest/Ticket SearchWiki newPictures/VideosChatArticlesLinksAbout
Off-Topic :  Fairfax Underground fairfax underground logo
Welcome to Fairfax Underground, a project site designed to improve communication among residents of Fairfax County, VA. Feel free to post anything Northern Virginia residents would find interesting.
The GOP’s Latest Brain-Buster: Defund the Highway System
Posted by: GOP LOGIC! ()
Date: July 04, 2015 12:43PM

A pair of congressional Republicans have unveiled a proposal that is herculean in its stupidity, becoming progressively more idiotic with each layer you peel back.

Senator Mike Lee (R-UT) and Representative Ron DeSantis (R-FL) are proposing that we essentially defund the interstate highway system by gradually eliminating the mechanism we use to pay for it and transfer control of the system to the states.

The measure, which has been dubbed the Transportation Empowerment Act (TEA), would lower the gas tax that currently pays for most federal transportation projects from 18.4 cents per gallon to 3.7 cents in five years.

The TEA act. Isn't that cute?

“The federal government’s Highway Trust Fund is broke and another year of band aid funding is not going to fix it,” Lee said in a statement.

If it's true, as you allege, that the Highway Trust Fund is broke (if it's broke it's because Republicans refuse to adequately fund it), how exactly would defunding it make things better?

During the same time period, the bill would transfer authority over federal highways and transit programs to states and replace current congressional appropriations with block grants. [...]

"American communities face a variety of transportation needs and it makes little sense to have Washington, DC serve as a bureaucratic middleman for basic projects,” DeSantis added.

Actually, it makes perfect sense to have a federal bureaucratic middleman manage the interstate highway system that crosses between all jurisdictions in the lower 48 states.

Without a federal middleman, states would have to negotiate and deal with each other without any dominating authority and you would more or less replace an efficient middleman with a nightmarish cobweb of middlemen.

“Our bill would update today’s broken infrastructure funding system by slowly cutting the federal gas tax, thus giving states the opportunity to better identify which projects need funding and how to fund them,” [Lee] said.

If you've paid any attention to recent events over the past several months, years or even the past decade for that matter, you would know that leaving states to their own devices is a preposterous idea.

How exactly will Kansas, which came dangerously close to a partial government shutdown last weekend, find the funding to even maintain the interstate highway system? Kansas cannot even be bothered to fund education at a level that is constitutional.

How exactly will Louisiana, which faces a $1.6 billion deficit and the possible bankruptcy of the public university system, find the funding to maintain the highway system?

How will Wisconsin fund the highway system while Governor Scott Walker is cutting education to fund a new basketball arena?

Does anyone really believe conservative state legislatures would be in favor of imposing new taxes to pay for highways?

“By cutting out the bureaucratic middle man in Washington, states will be able to keep more of their infrastructure dollars at home where they belong and they will be able to avoid the costly and often duplicative federal regulations that can bring any infrastructure project to a screeching halt.”

Theoretically, some states could "keep more of their infrastructure dollars at home," but not the conservative states that would actually have a desire to thumb their nose at the federal government in this manner.

States that receive more in federal funding than they contribute in taxes would not keep anything; they would simply find themselves deeper in the hole.

This bill introduced by Senator Lee and Representative DeSantis may as well be a proposal to not have an interstate highway system, at least not in the Don't Treat On Me states they see themselves as representing

Options: ReplyQuote
Re: The GOP’s Latest Brain-Buster: Defund the Highway System
Posted by: sad really ()
Date: July 04, 2015 12:46PM

So many tolls on the highway we're practically doing that now. Ever drive from dc to nyc? It's like $40 in tolls. wtf?

Options: ReplyQuote
Re: The GOP’s Latest Brain-Buster: Defund the Highway System
Posted by: Structurally Deficient Ideology ()
Date: July 04, 2015 04:27PM

It's easy to understand the logic of this: gas prices drop for the consumer, demand goes up, profits increase for oil companies, and the whole country's infrastructure suffers. Makes perfect sense if you're a teabagging fox newstard.

Options: ReplyQuote
Re: The GOP’s Latest Brain-Buster: Defund the Highway System
Posted by: Cut taxes ()
Date: July 04, 2015 05:33PM

This brilliant. Taxes are stupid. We have been getting ripped off by the federal gas tax for years. The TEA should eliminate the need for taxes and return the roads to the people.

We should have a TEA party.

Options: ReplyQuote
Re: The GOP’s Latest Brain-Buster: Defund the Highway System
Posted by: Realuit ()
Date: July 04, 2015 05:53PM

States suck ass at managing their budgets. The first state the FED will have to bailout would Texas, Alabama, Louisiana and Alaska.

Options: ReplyQuote
Re: The GOP’s Latest Brain-Buster: Defund the Highway System
Posted by: Dems love Nazi government ()
Date: July 04, 2015 06:12PM

Taxes are unconstitutional. No wonder libs love them.

Options: ReplyQuote
Re: The GOP’s Latest Brain-Buster: Defund the Highway System
Posted by: teabaggers can't read ()
Date: July 05, 2015 08:13AM

Dems love Nazi government Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Taxes are unconstitutional. No wonder libs love
> them.

Article I Section 8:

"The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes"

Options: ReplyQuote
Re: The GOP’s Latest Brain-Buster: Defund the Highway System
Posted by: Gerrymanderer2 ()
Date: July 05, 2015 10:17AM

Listen, they are bought and paid for losers. This is all they know now.

Options: ReplyQuote
Re: The GOP’s Latest Brain-Buster: Defund the Highway System
Posted by: NYK9M ()
Date: July 05, 2015 11:44AM

This is almost as stupid as when republicans wanted to defund the National Weather Service because everyone can just get their weather reports from the Weather Channel instead.

Options: ReplyQuote
Re: The GOP’s Latest Brain-Buster: Defund the Highway System
Posted by: Gerrymanderer2 ()
Date: July 05, 2015 11:51AM

They're so dumb that they don't know collectively that the weather channel gets its weather from the NOAA.

We're talking hundreds of these idiots and their staff in the House.

Options: ReplyQuote
Re: The GOP’s Latest Brain-Buster: Defund the Highway System
Posted by: Vexxxed ()
Date: July 05, 2015 04:27PM

Gerrymanderer2 Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> They're so dumb that they don't know collectively
> that the weather channel gets its weather from the
> NOAA.
>
> We're talking hundreds of these idiots and their
> staff in the House.


Dead on Gerry. How do you do it?

They're so stupid that believe if too many people stand on one side of Guam.....................wait for it..............it'll tip over.

Options: ReplyQuote


Your Name: 
Your Email (Optional): 
Subject: 
Attach a file
  • No file can be larger than 75 MB
  • All files together cannot be larger than 300 MB
  • 30 more file(s) can be attached to this message
Spam prevention:
Please, enter the code that you see below in the input field. This is for blocking bots that try to post this form automatically.
  *******   **    **  **     **  ********   ********  
 **     **   **  **   **     **  **     **  **     ** 
 **     **    ****    **     **  **     **  **     ** 
  ********     **     **     **  ********   ********  
        **     **     **     **  **         **     ** 
 **     **     **     **     **  **         **     ** 
  *******      **      *******   **         ********  
This forum powered by Phorum.