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Moreno vs Basl set for Jan 11 2016 Here's the reason why
Posted by: Actual lawyer ()
Date: March 25, 2015 01:12PM

Lawyers only set dates at the latest possible date when they know that the trial will not succeed. Either the Morenos know they won't be able to handle the witness stand in front of everyone, or they know evidence won't be there to support their claims.

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Re: Moreno vs Basl set for Jan 11 2016 Here's the reason why
Posted by: Questions.. ()
Date: March 25, 2015 01:18PM

Would any of them actually take a witness stand?

I guess if it's a jury trial it's possible.

Since it is a jury trail what courthouse would it be held at?

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Re: Moreno vs Basl set for Jan 11 2016 Here's the reason why
Posted by: famous last words ()
Date: March 25, 2015 01:33PM

Whatre you gunna do, sue me?

No but seriously, you guys are fucking soulless, complete and utter cowards to involve lawyers in your local forum website beef. Do any of you have any honor whatsoever?? You knew full well what you were getting into, but you squeal and cry like a stuck pig when you get caught in eeshes trap.

I would have to have my home invaded and my leg chopped off to even think about considering thinking about doing what misery did. Lost any and all respect for you based on this.

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Re: Moreno vs Basl set for Jan 11 2016 Here's the reason why
Posted by: Esq. ()
Date: March 25, 2015 01:36PM

Actual lawyer Wrote:
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> Lawyers only set dates at the latest possible date
> when they know that the trial will not succeed.
> Either the Morenos know they won't be able to
> handle the witness stand in front of everyone, or
> they know evidence won't be there to support their
> claims.


I agree, I've been reviewing the cases and it appears that neither one of them have much substantial facts, enough to warrant a conviction. These backyard attorneys that post here with what they perceive as relevant factual material has no bearing. They rehash items posted here years ago and feel that the Judge will be so impressed that he will allow it to be entered. Prediction: Both cases dismissed. Attorneys fees will remain.

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Re: Moreno vs Basl set for Jan 11 2016 Here's the reason why
Posted by: amateur lawyer ()
Date: March 25, 2015 01:42PM

Esq. Wrote:
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> Actual lawyer Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Lawyers only set dates at the latest possible
> date
> > when they know that the trial will not succeed.
> > Either the Morenos know they won't be able to
> > handle the witness stand in front of everyone,
> or
> > they know evidence won't be there to support
> their
> > claims.
>
>
> I agree, I've been reviewing the cases and it
> appears that neither one of them have much
> substantial facts, enough to warrant a conviction.
> These backyard attorneys that post here with what
> they perceive as relevant factual material has no
> bearing. They rehash items posted here years ago
> and feel that the Judge will be so impressed that
> he will allow it to be entered. Prediction: Both
> cases dismissed. Attorneys fees will remain.

good, glad to hear it. Dont really know what to say regarding the lawyer fees which I am sure at this point are fairly substantial, but I'm sure they both deserved their hourly

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Re: Moreno vs Basl set for Jan 11 2016 Here's the reason why
Posted by: Lololololol ()
Date: March 25, 2015 01:46PM

The date is set by a judge, not the lawyer.

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Re: Moreno vs Basl set for Jan 11 2016 Here's the reason why
Posted by: Barrister ()
Date: March 25, 2015 01:46PM

Esq. Wrote:
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> Actual lawyer Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Lawyers only set dates at the latest possible
> date
> > when they know that the trial will not succeed.
> > Either the Morenos know they won't be able to
> > handle the witness stand in front of everyone,
> or
> > they know evidence won't be there to support
> their
> > claims.
>
>
> I agree, I've been reviewing the cases and it
> appears that neither one of them have much
> substantial facts, enough to warrant a conviction.
> These backyard attorneys that post here with what
> they perceive as relevant factual material has no
> bearing. They rehash items posted here years ago
> and feel that the Judge will be so impressed that
> he will allow it to be entered. Prediction: Both
> cases dismissed. Attorneys fees will remain.


Hey there Mr. Esq. How does one obtain a "conviction" in a civil suit?

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Re: Moreno vs Basl set for Jan 11 2016 Here's the reason why
Posted by: consider lesson learned = $$$$$$ ()
Date: March 25, 2015 01:48PM

amateur lawyer Wrote:
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> Esq. Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Actual lawyer Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Lawyers only set dates at the latest possible
> > date
> > > when they know that the trial will not
> succeed.
> > > Either the Morenos know they won't be able to
> > > handle the witness stand in front of
> everyone,
> > or
> > > they know evidence won't be there to support
> > their
> > > claims.
> >
> >
> > I agree, I've been reviewing the cases and it
> > appears that neither one of them have much
> > substantial facts, enough to warrant a
> conviction.
> > These backyard attorneys that post here with
> what
> > they perceive as relevant factual material has
> no
> > bearing. They rehash items posted here years
> ago
> > and feel that the Judge will be so impressed
> that
> > he will allow it to be entered. Prediction:
> Both
> > cases dismissed. Attorneys fees will remain.
>
> good, glad to hear it. Dont really know what to
> say regarding the lawyer fees which I am sure at
> this point are fairly substantial, but I'm sure
> they both deserved their hourly


Oh Yea!! Hundreds of dollars an hour, a lot more than a plumber makes which is big bucks in itself. Well both eesh and misery can chalk it off to "lessons learned'. In cases like this only the lawyers make out, they are probably on the phone with each other now laughing at the clowns they have as clients.

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Re: Moreno vs Basl set for Jan 11 2016 Here's the reason why
Posted by: civil procedure ()
Date: March 25, 2015 01:48PM

Lololololol Wrote:
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> The date is set by a judge, not the lawyer.


And lawyers request trial dates.....

Judges routinely grant them.

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Re: Moreno vs Basl set for Jan 11 2016 Here's the reason why
Posted by: paralegal ()
Date: March 25, 2015 01:53PM

civil procedure Wrote:
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> Lololololol Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > The date is set by a judge, not the lawyer.
>
>
> And lawyers request trial dates.....
>
> Judges routinely grant them.


Very true^^^ I think my friend Esq. mistakenly posted conviction rather than judgment or ruling.

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Re: Moreno vs Basl set for Jan 11 2016 Here's the reason why
Posted by: COME ON ()
Date: March 25, 2015 01:58PM

famous last words Wrote:
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> Whatre you gunna do, sue me?
>
> No but seriously, you guys are fucking soulless,
> complete and utter cowards to involve lawyers in
> your local forum website beef. Do any of you have
> any honor whatsoever?? You knew full well what you
> were getting into, but you squeal and cry like a
> stuck pig when you get caught in eeshes trap.
>
> I would have to have my home invaded and my leg
> chopped off to even think about considering
> thinking about doing what misery did. Lost any and
> all respect for you based on this.

Shit! You see the stuff they post, rather garbage they post. Where the fuck is the honor? Those words they write make the man...or worm.

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Re: Moreno vs Basl set for Jan 11 2016 Here's the reason why
Posted by: i believe ()
Date: March 25, 2015 02:03PM

famous last words Wrote:
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> Whatre you gunna do, sue me?
>
> No but seriously, you guys are fucking soulless,
> complete and utter cowards to involve lawyers in
> your local forum website beef. Do any of you have
> any honor whatsoever?? You knew full well what you
> were getting into, but you squeal and cry like a
> stuck pig when you get caught in eeshes trap.
>
> I would have to have my home invaded and my leg
> chopped off to even think about considering
> thinking about doing what misery did. Lost any and
> all respect for you based on this.

I believe he was swatted. That crosses your imaginary line foremost.

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Re: Moreno vs Basl set for Jan 11 2016 Here's the reason why
Posted by: Hulu ()
Date: March 25, 2015 02:05PM

You all seem to be forgetting that the Misery FAMILY never posted anything here and were direct targets anyway. Their home and vehicles were tampered with because of some guy on the internet who took it offline and this isn't the first time he's been accused of such a thing by a family from this site. Strange how Eesh goes by people's homes and suddenly theif property gets damaged. It goes much further than the cyber world and apparently Misery was arrested on some bogus claim that Eesh made so again, it stopped going into the cyber world and very well warrants the courts getting invovled.

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Re: Moreno vs Basl set for Jan 11 2016 Here's the reason why
Posted by: Read the lawsuit ()
Date: March 25, 2015 02:08PM

"I would have to have my home invaded"...


Apparently this DID happen. Allegedly. You didn't read the lawsuit, did you?

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Re: Moreno vs Basl set for Jan 11 2016 Here's the reason why
Posted by: nHYJ4 ()
Date: March 25, 2015 02:11PM

Doubt if the OP "Actual Lawyer" is one. There are lots of reasons why cases are set far out - schedules and need for extensive discovery being just two of them. Also, there aren't a lot of 4 day jury trial slots on the Fairfax Circuit court calendar. Also, no lawyer would make the statements that the OP makes about the Plaintiffs. Lawyers don't talk about clients not "handling the witness stand". I doubt very much that the Moreno's attorney is worried about Eesh's cross examination skills. The OP is probably eesh anyway.

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Re: Moreno vs Basl set for Jan 11 2016 Here's the reason why
Posted by: Well fine ()
Date: March 25, 2015 02:13PM

Hulu Wrote:
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> You all seem to be forgetting that the Misery
> FAMILY never posted anything here and were direct
> targets anyway. Their home and vehicles were
> tampered with because of some guy on the internet
> who took it offline and this isn't the first time
> he's been accused of such a thing by a family from
> this site. Strange how Eesh goes by people's homes
> and suddenly theif property gets damaged. It goes
> much further than the cyber world and apparently
> Misery was arrested on some bogus claim that Eesh
> made so again, it stopped going into the cyber
> world and very well warrants the courts getting
> invovled.


Misery should have realized that his posts could have possible reverberations on his kin, the good name of the Moreno family. Plus the fact that he posted from his parent's basement adds to the responsibility of "internet responsible posting, in any crime or malfeasance isn't it the innocent that suffer? I kinda feel for Miz though because his friends (Tuttle and Alias) instead of talking to him as a friend should, just enabled the behavior, perpetuating the post. The real authors in my opinion are his fly-by-night friends (so-called).

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Re: Moreno vs Basl set for Jan 11 2016 Here's the reason why
Posted by: Smickidy ()
Date: March 25, 2015 02:15PM

Still doesn't jistify going after the family. They didn't post any of the garbage their son posted and probably weren't aware.

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Re: Moreno vs Basl set for Jan 11 2016 Here's the reason why
Posted by: Well fine ()
Date: March 25, 2015 02:19PM

Smickidy Wrote:
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> Still doesn't jistify going after the family. They
> didn't post any of the garbage their son posted
> and probably weren't aware.


Absolutely^^^that showed a strange mindset on doubt.

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Re: Moreno vs Basl set for Jan 11 2016 Here's the reason why
Posted by: Here we go again ()
Date: March 25, 2015 02:25PM

Barrister Wrote:
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> Esq. Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------

> > > Either the Morenos know they won't be able to
> > > handle the witness stand in
> > I agree, I've been reviewing the cases and it
> > appears that neither one of them have much
> > substantial facts, enough to warrant a conviction.


> Hey there Mr. Esq. How does one obtain a
> "conviction" in a civil suit?


Somebody's lack of knowledge of the law is showing again..

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Re: Moreno vs Basl set for Jan 11 2016 Here's the reason whyA
Posted by: Next week ()
Date: March 25, 2015 02:42PM

There's an open reading in court next week

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Re: Moreno vs Basl set for Jan 11 2016 Here's the reason whyA
Posted by: Meade will.... ()
Date: March 25, 2015 02:44PM

Next week Wrote:
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> There's an open reading in court next week


Meade will read the unabridged text of "Moby Dick" by Melville

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Re: Moreno vs Basl set for Jan 11 2016 Here's the reason why
Posted by: Allegations are proof enough ()
Date: March 25, 2015 03:19PM

You say his home wasn't invaded? The Moreno family had a flood in their home right after Christmas when their washing machine broke. How can you prove it wasn't eesh that did this? If Misery knows in his heart that eesh did this, the courts will feel sorry for Misery and award him $350,000 in damages.

Misery also knows in his heart that eesh broke into his car, scraped off a decal, and moved it to another part of the windshield? Again, how can you prove eesh did not do this? The allegations are good enough.

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Re: Moreno vs Basl set for Jan 11 2016 Here's the reason why
Posted by: seen this before ()
Date: March 25, 2015 03:22PM

multiple allegations of the same exact crime from two separate families on the same website who were attacked by the same person online and offline

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Re: Moreno vs Basl set for Jan 11 2016 Here's the reason why
Posted by: Two families? Wow ()
Date: March 25, 2015 03:23PM

seen this before Wrote:
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> multiple allegations of the same exact crime from
> two separate families on the same website who were
> attacked by the same person online and offline



Who was the other family?

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Re: Moreno vs Basl set for Jan 11 2016 Here's the reason why
Posted by: 51/50 ()
Date: March 25, 2015 03:24PM

Allegations are proof enough Wrote:
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> You say his home wasn't invaded? The Moreno family
> had a flood in their home right after Christmas
> when their washing machine broke. How can you
> prove it wasn't eesh that did this? If Misery
> knows in his heart that eesh did this, the courts
> will feel sorry for Misery and award him $350,000
> in damages.
>
> Misery also knows in his heart that eesh broke
> into his car, scraped off a decal, and moved it to
> another part of the windshield? Again, how can you
> prove eesh did not do this? The allegations are
> good enough.


Burden of proof in a civil case is only 51% too. They don't even have to prove beyond a reasonable doubt, especially when there are documentations of Eesh even saying he was driving up to Misery's home around the time the alleged crime happened.

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Re: Moreno vs Basl set for Jan 11 2016 Here's the reason why
Posted by: You must be new here ()
Date: March 25, 2015 03:25PM

Two families? Wow Wrote:
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> seen this before Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > multiple allegations of the same exact crime
> from
> > two separate families on the same website who
> were
> > attacked by the same person online and offline
>
>
>
> Who was the other family?


http://www.fairfaxunderground.com/forum/read/40/1772372/1772492.html#msg-1772492

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Re: Moreno vs Basl set for Jan 11 2016 Here's the reason why
Posted by: Durf4542538903458098090 ()
Date: March 25, 2015 03:27PM

51/50 Wrote:
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> Allegations are proof enough Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > You say his home wasn't invaded? The Moreno
> family
> > had a flood in their home right after Christmas
> > when their washing machine broke. How can you
> > prove it wasn't eesh that did this? If Misery
> > knows in his heart that eesh did this, the
> courts
> > will feel sorry for Misery and award him
> $350,000
> > in damages.
> >
> > Misery also knows in his heart that eesh broke
> > into his car, scraped off a decal, and moved it
> to
> > another part of the windshield? Again, how can
> you
> > prove eesh did not do this? The allegations are
> > good enough.
>
>
> Burden of proof in a civil case is only 51% too.
> They don't even have to prove beyond a reasonable
> doubt, especially when there are documentations of
> Eesh even saying he was driving up to Misery's
> home around the time the alleged crime happened.





Yep. If Misery says that eesh did it, it's good enough. The police couldn't find any evidence that eesh did it, they never found reasonable suspicion to arrest eesh, but Miz's lawyer will find evidence, whether it exists or not.

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Re: Moreno vs Basl set for Jan 11 2016 Here's the reason why
Posted by: Evidence ()
Date: March 25, 2015 03:28PM

The evidence is in Eesh's postings.

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Re: Moreno vs Basl set for Jan 11 2016 Here's the reason why
Posted by: Durf3454960856905 ()
Date: March 25, 2015 03:31PM

Evidence Wrote:
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> The evidence is in Eesh's postings.




This. eesh was talking about cat burglars the same day Miz's washing machine broke and flooded his basement. Why would eesh post about cat burglars the same day that Misery's family had a flood in their basement. It's too much to be a coincidence.

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Re: Moreno vs Basl set for Jan 11 2016 Here's the reason why
Posted by: marlarkey ()
Date: March 25, 2015 03:35PM

Allegations are proof enough Wrote:
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> You say his home wasn't invaded? The Moreno family
> had a flood in their home right after Christmas
> when their washing machine broke. How can you
> prove it wasn't eesh that did this? If Misery
> knows in his heart that eesh did this, the courts
> will feel sorry for Misery and award him $350,000
> in damages.
>
> Misery also knows in his heart that eesh broke
> into his car, scraped off a decal, and moved it to
> another part of the windshield? Again, how can you
> prove eesh did not do this? The allegations are
> good enough.


No way, impossible to prove a negative. The burden of proof is on Miz to come up with something substantial, a picture, witnesses, something concrete. There is none of that there, eesh has relatives in that area, maybe he went to visit them. eesh know in his heart of heart he didn't do it. His word versus the word of another. I predict the Judge's final words will be something like: "Look we are never going to get to a solution, I suggest we........"

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Re: Moreno vs Basl set for Jan 11 2016 Here's the reason why
Posted by: Beyond a reasonable doubt ()
Date: March 25, 2015 03:43PM

file.php?40,file=172788,filename=Screens
November 23, speaking of stolen hubcap.

file.php?40,file=172789,filename=Scan000
Misery has hucap's stolen.

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Eesh has no idea what hubcaps are.

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Eesh claims hubcaps must have been "lost"



I find it very hard to believe two families who had no idea about the same crime happening to each other would have been able to make up such a petty/petittheft to frame on someone.



Now unless the very two people who Eesh very publicly stalked and told the forum that he had gone by their homes just so happened to "lose their hubcap orenmants" after a visit from Eesh then it was Eesh. Or we have a hubcap orenmant theif who's out here stealing the hubcap orenmants of two Fairfax Underground posters in an effor to frame Eesh.

But who would do such a thing?

Eli...maybe?

Yeah that's it. Everyone is after Eesh.

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Re: Moreno vs Basl set for Jan 11 2016 Here's the reason why
Posted by: Just coincidence ()
Date: March 25, 2015 03:50PM

Durf3454960856905 Wrote:
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> Evidence Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > The evidence is in Eesh's postings.
>
>
>
>
> This. eesh was talking about cat burglars the same
> day Miz's washing machine broke and flooded his
> basement. Why would eesh post about cat burglars
> the same day that Misery's family had a flood in
> their basement. It's too much to be a coincidence.

file.php?40,file=173446,filename=Coco.pn
file.php?40,file=173447,filename=png

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Re: Moreno vs Basl set for Jan 11 2016 Here's the reason why
Posted by: Cat Burglar ()
Date: March 25, 2015 03:54PM

Re: eesh vs. meade: who is more handsome?
Posted by: eesh ()
Date: December 27, 2013 12:27AM

Misery, let's take a look at you. I'll be up in Fairfax this weekend. I'll stop by in Sterling so we can all get a look at the Miz.

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Re: Moreno vs Basl set for Jan 11 2016 Here's the reason why
Posted by: Much butt-hurt here ()
Date: March 25, 2015 04:01PM

This thread is 90% eesh butt-hurt.

Save it for the judge, kiddo.

If the claims are as absurd and baseless as you imply, the case will be dismissed.

Yes, it will have cost you much time and effort, and likely some ducats, but that is what happens when you're not a good boy.

And you have not been a good boy.

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Re: Moreno vs Basl set for Jan 11 2016 Here's the reason why
Posted by: Durf42579432759 ()
Date: March 25, 2015 04:01PM

As you can see from the evidence, eesh intended to be in Sterling the same day the washing machine broke and flooded the basement. How could a jury not believe the damning evidence? From eesh's posts, a reasonable person could believe (51%) rule) that eesh broke into the Moreno home, vandalized a pipe until it froze to death, and flooded the basement.

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Re: Moreno vs Basl set for Jan 11 2016 Here's the reason why
Posted by: Someone needs to answer this ()
Date: March 25, 2015 04:09PM

The harrassment claim made against Misery happened after this lawsuit was filed.

How is this lawsuit frivolously made in an effort to prevent Eesh from proceeding in a criminal trial against Misery if these claims Eesh made against Misery happened after?

Also, if these claims were true, nothing would have prevented Eesh from proceeding in a case against him. Unless the claims were bogus and that's why the protective order has been thrown out.

Eesh posted the lawsuit thread on Jan 27. Misery was arrested Feb 2 and the offense made Feb 1.

How would the lawsuit against Eesh be made to stop Eesh from going after Misery for a crime that hadn't even occurred yet?

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Re: Moreno vs Basl set for Jan 11 2016 Here's the reason why
Posted by: Wacky tubbacky ()
Date: March 25, 2015 04:11PM

Only someone who was doing some imagination enlightening substances could possibly come up with a scene like the plumbing caper. Miz does have one hell of an imagination I'll give him that, like conie said once he should write books.....fantasy and fairy tales would be great.

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Re: Moreno vs Basl set for Jan 11 2016 Here's the reason why
Posted by: A very sarcastic post ()
Date: March 25, 2015 04:20PM

The hubcap theft is the perfect, most damning crime ever to frame someone with! We all know Eesh would never do something so petty or commit petit larceny.

They are all lying and conspired against Eesh with this "Come on guys! Let's get him! Let's say he stole our hubcaps! That'll put him away forever!"

Of course it was Eli framing Eesh...

It's not like they'd make up something extremely serious like him killing their cat and leaving it in their mailbox or something...

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Re: Moreno vs Basl set for Jan 11 2016 Here's the reason why
Posted by: Michael Zimmerman ()
Date: March 25, 2015 04:30PM

"Sounds like you're trying to Zimmerman me"

Re: Choose Your Favorite Caliber (Huge Pic)
Posted by: eesh ()
Date: March 24, 2015 10:54PM

They're okay. Kel-Tec worked for Zimmerman.....

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Re: Moreno vs Basl set for Jan 11 2016 Here's the reason why
Posted by: 7hMxh ()
Date: March 25, 2015 04:34PM

Wacky tubbacky Wrote:
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> Only someone who was doing some imagination
> enlightening substances could possibly come up
> with a scene like the plumbing caper. Miz does
> have one hell of an imagination I'll give him
> that, like conie said once he should write
> books.....fantasy and fairy tales would be great.


Stop whining.

Fantasies and fairy tales will not survive a demurrer (which “tests the legal sufficiency of facts alleged in the pleadings,” i.e., whether the Complaint alleges “sufficient facts to constitute a foundation in law for the judgment sought”).

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Re: Moreno vs Basl set for Jan 11 2016 Here's the reason why
Posted by: Still,, the bubblegum? ()
Date: March 25, 2015 04:35PM

Don't think the jury will buy the "bubble gum" thing. Why not shove it under the door, in the mail box or slot, between the storm and home door, under the knocker, under the wiper blade? A bit too melodramatic. eesh might not even chew bubblegum, the lawyer only has to ask him and he answers: "I never chew gum!" to create doubt in the jury.

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Re: Moreno vs Basl set for Jan 11 2016 Here's the reason why
Posted by: Not a crime ()
Date: March 25, 2015 04:41PM

The gum thing isn't illegal or a crime. Things that will actually matter are the vehicle vandalism - which Eesh was even accused of doing in the past and the home invasion which Eesh posted about in a very sly way. There isn't some huge conspiracy against Eesh going on here.

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Re: Moreno vs Basl set for Jan 11 2016 Here's the reason why
Posted by: duhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh ()
Date: March 25, 2015 04:48PM

everyone knows in their hearts eesh did it

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Re: Moreno vs Basl set for Jan 11 2016 Here's the reason why
Posted by: Zinger ()
Date: March 25, 2015 04:54PM

duhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh Wrote:
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> everyone knows in their hearts eesh did it


Of course. What is Eesh's aibis and his whereabouts for the dates that these crimes occurred?

He had already stated that he would be in the area that weekend.

Who will be able to account for his testimony when he denies these allegations?

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Re: Moreno vs Basl set for Jan 11 2016 Here's the reason why
Posted by: Sam Spade ()
Date: March 25, 2015 04:54PM

Not a crime Wrote:
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> The gum thing isn't illegal or a crime. Things
> that will actually matter are the vehicle
> vandalism - which Eesh was even accused of doing
> in the past and the home invasion which Eesh
> posted about in a very sly way. There isn't some
> huge conspiracy against Eesh going on here.


It sounds silly that someone would use bubble gum to attach a note to a door. Number 1 it does not even hold for long and number 2 you think of olden days when Zoro threw a note on a dagger, a figment out of a cheap detective novel. I think, and I could be wrong, the guy blew it there. He got too cute and thought he was too clever.

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Re: Moreno vs Basl set for Jan 11 2016 Here's the reason why
Posted by: Not a crime ()
Date: March 25, 2015 04:57PM

That's wishful thinking on your part to think anything has been "blown" because of that one thing compared to all of the other things stacked up against Eesh. I once again say that even if Eesh did do that, it wasn't illegal and isn't a crime and they aren't asking for anything in return for that.

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Re: Moreno vs Basl set for Jan 11 2016 Here's the reason why
Posted by: mHKDV ()
Date: March 25, 2015 04:58PM

Sam Spade Wrote:
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> Not a crime Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > The gum thing isn't illegal or a crime. Things
> > that will actually matter are the vehicle
> > vandalism - which Eesh was even accused of
> doing
> > in the past and the home invasion which Eesh
> > posted about in a very sly way. There isn't
> some
> > huge conspiracy against Eesh going on here.
>
>
> It sounds silly that someone would use bubble gum
> to attach a note to a door. Number 1 it does not
> even hold for long and number 2 you think of olden
> days when Zoro threw a note on a dagger, a figment
> out of a cheap detective novel. I think, and I
> could be wrong, the guy blew it there. He got too
> cute and thought he was too clever.


stranger things have happened..

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Re: Moreno vs Basl set for Jan 11 2016 Here's the reason why
Posted by: "Zoro" ()
Date: March 25, 2015 05:03PM

How would you know gum doesn't hold for long?

Have you stuck gum and notes to people's doors before?

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Re: Moreno vs Basl set for Jan 11 2016 Here's the reason why
Posted by: Storm door ()
Date: March 25, 2015 05:05PM

Still,, the bubblegum? Wrote:
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> Don't think the jury will buy the "bubble gum"
> thing. Why not shove it under the door, in the
> mail box or slot, between the storm and home door,
> under the knocker, under the wiper blade? A bit
> too melodramatic. eesh might not even chew
> bubblegum, the lawyer only has to ask him and he
> answers: "I never chew gum!" to create doubt in
> the jury.


How do you know they have a storm door.....?

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Re: Moreno vs Basl set for Jan 11 2016 Here's the reason why
Posted by: EML7E ()
Date: March 25, 2015 05:36PM

Re: Why is lizzie ruling?
Posted by: eesh()
Date: March 10, 2012 02:07AM

lizzie Wrote:
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> I don't see how that shows anything but nothing
> you say holds any value anyway





So what would you do if that truck was destroyed, or bought by someone else? After all, the title is in your neighbor's name.

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Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 03/10/2012 02:07AM by eesh.

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Re: Moreno vs Basl set for Jan 11 2016 Here's the reason why
Posted by: hvpj9 ()
Date: March 25, 2015 05:37PM

Re: Why is lizzie ruling?
Posted by: eesh ()
Date: March 10, 2012 02:09AM

lizzie Wrote:
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> They aren't going to sell it to anyone but my
> family. Get that through your fatass curly haired
> fat barbie head!





And what would you do if the truck was stolen, or caught on fire?

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Re: Moreno vs Basl set for Jan 11 2016 Here's the reason why
Posted by: mv6VE ()
Date: March 25, 2015 05:38PM

Re: Why is lizzie ruling?
Posted by: ha. ()
Date: March 10, 2012 02:10AM

If the truck gets destory we'll know it was eesh!

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Re: Moreno vs Basl set for Jan 11 2016 Here's the reason why
Posted by: HmPxv ()
Date: March 25, 2015 05:47PM

Re: Threatening personal messages from Vexxxed!
Posted by: Alicia Wales-Woodson ()
Date: June 06, 2014 08:57PM

i Have just come across this page after googling our street address. our house is under contract to be sold and i along with my father were curious to see what some websites had our house listed as. So i came across VEXXED who is supposedly Greg Wales. I have also read numerous posts slandering my father, my fathers picture, my fathers property and so on. I also put two and two together and reslized why an odd thing happened to my father last year. We got a phone call at 11pm from a police operator asking on the welfare of my father, Apparently someone called into the emergency line and told them my father 'Greg Wales' was suicidal.We assured them that was not the case and it has to be a mistake. My father was in bed asleep. The police had to come and make sure all was well. They awoke my dad up out of a deep sleep. Which in turn woke my children up(all 6 of them) and scared the crap out of us all. Who would do this? we asked ourselves. My dad has no enemies. My dad knows many people and all who know my father, even if they know him from only a brief meeting, would say whoever called must not know Greg Wales or they called in on a different "greg wales'. No one would prank the police and say my father was suicidal, no one at all. well guess what? i now know why and i know the few people that would call the police and tell them 'Greg Wales'was suicidal. We have found the need to file charges as soon as the police determine who the caller was we will have thier name and will be able to file charges. the cops on the other hand have thier own investigation for identity theft and Filing a false Police report.

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Re: Moreno vs Basl set for Jan 11 2016 Here's the reason why
Posted by: All I', saying ()
Date: March 25, 2015 05:53PM

"Zoro" Wrote:
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> How would you know gum doesn't hold for long?
>
>
All I'm saying is don't be surprised (if you're in attendance) to hear some chuckling and see some head shaking from the jury when this is read in opening statements.

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Re: Moreno vs Basl set for Jan 11 2016 Here's the reason why
Posted by: The Ides of March ()
Date: March 25, 2015 05:59PM

March.

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Re: Moreno vs Basl set for Jan 11 2016 Here's the reason why
Posted by: FxDjk ()
Date: March 25, 2015 06:15PM

Re: Did Chuck really post this?
Posted by: 4 Real Mephisto????? ()
Date: August 20, 2013 02:01PM

MrMephisto Wrote:
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> You forgot Option 3: one of the other hundreds of
> visitors to this site found the videos since you
> made zero effort to protect your daughter.


Obviously no one knows for sure who posted the thread about Chuck's kid, but there are a couple things we do know:

-eesh on many occasions has used Chuck's MINOR daughter as a means of bullying chuck (well documented in many threads).

-eesh has driven from Richmond to several users houses in the middle of the night for god knows what reason (also well documented in various past threads).


How can you possibly defend the harassment of a minor that doesn't even use this site and the harassment of various other posters?? Eesh is a 30 something year old man, this type of behavior is deplorable.

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Re: Moreno vs Basl set for Jan 11 2016 Here's the reason why
Posted by: Gum/Eesh reference ()
Date: March 25, 2015 06:51PM

All I', saying Wrote:
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> All I'm saying is don't be surprised (if you're in
> attendance) to hear some chuckling and see some
> head shaking from the jury when this is read in
> opening statements.


Or perhaps you are very wrong about the bubble gum theory.

You read the claim about the gum in the lawsuit posted by Eesh on Jan 27 2015 I'm assuming.

Well, here is a strange reference to Eesh and "5 gum" made on Nov 14 2014, in a thread impersonating Misery's father.

This is nearly 3 months before anyone knew anything of any "gum"

Of course, it's probably just yet another coincidence just like the "I have a note under my windshield" post too, right?




Re: Some advice needed
Posted by: 5 gum ()
Date: November 15, 2014 01:24AM

I thought this was eesh


http://www.fairfaxunderground.com/forum/read/40/1708190/1708317.html#msg-1708317

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Re: Moreno vs Basl set for Jan 11 2016 Here's the reason why
Posted by: Freudian slip? ()
Date: March 25, 2015 06:55PM

Gum/Eesh reference Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> All I', saying Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > All I'm saying is don't be surprised (if you're
> in
> > attendance) to hear some chuckling and see some
> > head shaking from the jury when this is read in
> > opening statements.
>
>
> Or perhaps you are very wrong about the bubble gum
> theory.
>
> You read the claim about the gum in the lawsuit
> posted by Eesh on Jan 27 2015 I'm assuming.
>
> Well, here is a strange reference to Eesh and "5
> gum" made on Nov 14 2014, in a thread
> impersonating Misery's father.
>
> This is nearly 3 months before anyone knew
> anything of any "gum"
>
> Of course, it's probably just yet another
> coincidence just like the "I have a note under my
> windshield" post too, right?
>
>
>
>
> Re: Some advice needed
> Posted by: 5 gum ()
> Date: November 15, 2014 01:24AM
>
> I thought this was eesh
>
>
> http://www.fairfaxunderground.com/forum/read/40/17
> 08190/1708317.html#msg-1708317


Hang em!

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Re: Moreno vs Basl set for Jan 11 2016 Here's the reason why
Posted by: mother of god ()
Date: March 25, 2015 07:09PM

lol jesus...

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Re: Moreno vs Basl set for Jan 11 2016 Here's the reason why
Posted by: fourlegs ()
Date: March 25, 2015 07:25PM

HmPxv Wrote:
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> Re: Threatening personal messages from
> Vexxxed!

> Posted by: Alicia Wales-Woodson ()
> Date: June 06, 2014 08:57PM
>
> i Have just come across this page after googling
> our street address. our house is under contract to
> be sold and i along with my father were curious to
> see what some websites had our house listed as. So
> i came across VEXXED who is supposedly Greg Wales.
> I have also read numerous posts slandering my
> father, my fathers picture, my fathers property
> and so on. I also put two and two together and
> reslized why an odd thing happened to my father
> last year. We got a phone call at 11pm from a
> police operator asking on the welfare of my
> father, Apparently someone called into the
> emergency line and told them my father 'Greg
> Wales' was suicidal.We assured them that was not
> the case and it has to be a mistake. My father was
> in bed asleep. The police had to come and make
> sure all was well. They awoke my dad up out of a
> deep sleep. Which in turn woke my children up(all
> 6 of them) and scared the crap out of us all. Who
> would do this?
we asked ourselves. My dad has
> no enemies. My dad knows many people and all who
> know my father, even if they know him from only a
> brief meeting, would say whoever called must not
> know Greg Wales or they called in on a different
> "greg wales'. No one would prank the police and
> say my father was suicidal, no one at all. well
> guess what? i now know why and i know the few
> people that would call the police and tell them
> 'Greg Wales'was suicidal. We have found the need
> to file charges as soon as the police determine
> who the caller was we will have thier name and
> will be able to file charges. the cops on the
> other hand have thier own investigation for
> identity theft and Filing a false Police report.


I'll do a quick tl;dr to this, someone (Eesh?) calling in as "Greg Wales"(Who is Vexxed) said that they were suicidal. This didn't lead to a swatting, but the cops came.

This screams Eesh. Eesh attempted to swat vexxed as Vexxed outed him.

This is Eesh calling in these swats or he is being framed.

Only Eesh has the time to stalk Vexxed and find out who he is and attempt to Swat in retaliation because he got outed by Vexxed.

___________________________________________________________
“Imitation is suicide.”
-Ralph Waldo Emerson



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 03/25/2015 07:45PM by fourlegs.

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Re: Moreno vs Basl set for Jan 11 2016 Here's the reason why
Posted by: Greg Double You ()
Date: March 25, 2015 07:44PM

Vexxxed was supposedly swatted, not the swatter

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Re: Moreno vs Basl set for Jan 11 2016 Here's the reason why
Posted by: nCtuv ()
Date: March 25, 2015 08:06PM

fourlegs Wrote:
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> I'll do a quick tl;dr to this, someone (Eesh?)
> calling in as "Greg Wales"(Who is Vexxed) said
> that they were suicidal. This didn't lead to a
> swatting, but the cops came.
>
> This screams Eesh. Eesh attempted to swat vexxed
> as Vexxed outed him.
>
> This is Eesh calling in these swats or he is being
> framed.
>
> Only Eesh has the time to stalk Vexxed and find
> out who he is and attempt to Swat in retaliation
> because he got outed by Vexxed.


Outstanding.

You hit the nail on the head and sank it in one stroke.

A++



Re: Threatening personal messages from Vexxxed!
Posted by: Alicia Wales-Woodson ()
Date: June 06, 2014 08:57PM

i Have just come across this page after googling our street address. our house is under contract to be sold and i along with my father were curious to see what some websites had our house listed as. So i came across VEXXED who is supposedly Greg Wales. I have also read numerous posts slandering my father, my fathers picture, my fathers property and so on. I also put two and two together and reslized why an odd thing happened to my father last year. We got a phone call at 11pm from a police operator asking on the welfare of my father, Apparently someone called into the emergency line and told them my father 'Greg Wales' was suicidal.We assured them that was not the case and it has to be a mistake. My father was in bed asleep. The police had to come and make sure all was well. They awoke my dad up out of a deep sleep. Which in turn woke my children up(all 6 of them) and scared the crap out of us all. Who would do this? we asked ourselves. My dad has no enemies. My dad knows many people and all who know my father, even if they know him from only a brief meeting, would say whoever called must not know Greg Wales or they called in on a different "greg wales'. No one would prank the police and say my father was suicidal, no one at all. well guess what? i now know why and i know the few people that would call the police and tell them 'Greg Wales'was suicidal. We have found the need to file charges as soon as the police determine who the caller was we will have thier name and will be able to file charges. the cops on the other hand have thier own investigation for identity theft and Filing a false Police report.


^^^ This shit is beyond fucked up.

Anyone who would do this ... sigh ... smh.

It's beyond fucked up.

And to think there's a "cool kat" out there who's reading my words and, more likely than not, smirking.

smh.

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Re: Moreno vs Basl set for Jan 11 2016 Here's the reason why
Posted by: cool kat ()
Date: March 25, 2015 08:11PM

;)

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Re: Moreno vs Basl set for Jan 11 2016 Here's the reason why
Posted by: Dc7Fj ()
Date: March 25, 2015 08:13PM

What did all of these people do to Eesh that made him do all of this to them?

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Re: Moreno vs Basl set for Jan 11 2016 Here's the reason why
Posted by: yeah ()
Date: March 25, 2015 08:15PM

i laughed.

smh at myself for doing so.

you incorrigible bastard you.

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Re: Moreno vs Basl set for Jan 11 2016 Here's the reason why
Posted by: Vexxxed ()
Date: March 25, 2015 09:36PM

Dc7Fj Wrote:
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> What did all of these people do to Eesh that made
> him do all of this to them?


We/they wouldn't go away and leave his majesty alone at the top of the mountain that is FFXU.

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Re: Moreno vs Basl set for Jan 11 2016 Here's the reason why
Posted by: KG3Mw ()
Date: March 25, 2015 11:31PM

Re: Why is lizzie ruling?
Posted by: the grammar police ()
Date: March 12, 2012 03:28PM

LOL did eesh actually torch a truck? Is it bad that I believe this so easily?




Re: Why is lizzie ruling?
Posted by: lizzie ()
Date: March 12, 2012 03:29PM

No, he didn't torch it but he did vandalize it. I'll talk to you on FB about it. He thought it was mine.




Re: Why is lizzie ruling?
Posted by: tabell85 ()
Date: March 12, 2012 05:35PM

lizzie Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> No, he didn't torch it but he did vandalize it.
> I'll talk to you on FB about it. He thought it was
> mine.


eesh is an awful human being as noted on many of his posts on this site and multiple attempts to stalk and harass multiple individuals. IT WILL BE GLORIOUS if he finally answers to his actions and realizes that the internet is not a playground without any laws.

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Re: Moreno vs Basl set for Jan 11 2016 Here's the reason why
Posted by: udTJD ()
Date: March 25, 2015 11:49PM

Re: Murder plot
Posted by: eesh ()
Date: April 06, 2012 01:07AM

lizzie is poor, her father couldn't even pay for that six-door truck that Harry Tuttle vandalized last month.

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Re: Moreno vs Basl set for Jan 11 2016 Here's the reason why
Posted by: yNp3U ()
Date: March 25, 2015 11:50PM

Re: does anyone think....
Posted by: eesh ()
Date: October 29, 2012 05:44PM

If anything, maybe a huge tree will crash down on that six door truck that lizzie adores so much. I doubt they have much insurance on the truck or home.....

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Re: Moreno vs Basl set for Jan 11 2016 Here's the reason why
Posted by: pMy7n ()
Date: March 25, 2015 11:52PM

Re: lizzie gets butthurt
Posted by: eesh ()
Date: January 21, 2013 01:43PM

Wow. She really believed Ding an Sich (the person referenced in that cardboard sign) vandalized her precious six door truck.

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Re: Moreno vs Basl set for Jan 11 2016 Here's the reason why
Posted by: ptyv9 ()
Date: March 26, 2015 12:07AM

Re: Why is lizzie ruling?
Posted by: J-O-B ()
Date: March 17, 2012 03:51PM

that would explain your morbid jealousy and obsession with the truck. someone else has something you dont and it infuriates you




Re: Why is lizzie ruling?
Posted by: Search ()
Date: March 17, 2012 03:57PM

If you do a search, eesh is the only person besides those threads who mentioned the truck. At LEAST 15 times. It's called morbid jealously. He is an extremely envious person, which is why he made so many threats against the truck and was so obsessed with it and it's location.

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Re: Moreno vs Basl set for Jan 11 2016 Here's the reason why
Posted by: batshit crazy ()
Date: March 26, 2015 12:09AM

eesh... you seriously look crazy as shit... wtf was with you and that truck? why did you post about it SO many times and say things about wanting it to be destroyed SO much?!

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Re: Moreno vs Basl set for Jan 11 2016 Here's the reason why
Posted by: DO NOT REPLY EESH!!!!!! JUST.... ()
Date: March 26, 2015 12:19AM

ShootYourself.gif

instead..

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Re: Moreno vs Basl set for Jan 11 2016 Here's the reason why
Posted by: Novice ()
Date: March 26, 2015 12:23AM

Why doesn't eesh go through his postings and delete or edit out something that may be damaging to him?

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Re: Moreno vs Basl set for Jan 11 2016 Here's the reason why
Posted by: A little too late for that ()
Date: March 26, 2015 12:27AM

Novice Wrote:
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> Why doesn't eesh go through his postings and
> delete or edit out something that may be damaging
> to him?


Because everything has already been documented, quoted or archived in some other fashion at least 2731748582341 times.

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Re: Moreno vs Basl set for Jan 11 2016 Here's the reason why
Posted by: Ralph Poontang ()
Date: March 26, 2015 12:27AM

Dc7Fj Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> What did all of these people do to Eesh that made
> him do all of this to them?


They harassed eesh through private messages. Some he took as sexually deviant.

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Re: Moreno vs Basl set for Jan 11 2016 Here's the reason why
Posted by: Nothing ()
Date: March 26, 2015 01:09AM

Dc7Fj Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> What did all of these people do to Eesh that made
> him do all of this to them?


Have it better in life than him in every way possible. Better homes, better cars, more money, family, friends, children, a support system, spouses, education, careers, good metabolism, the ability to grow facial hair, the correct amount of chromosomes, things to do besides worrying about what other people are doing, a reason to wake up in the morning, a purpose in life.

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Re: Moreno vs Basl set for Jan 11 2016 Here's the reason why
Posted by: CHmVX ()
Date: March 26, 2015 09:25AM

Re: Fairfax underground on the news again
Posted by: eesh ()
Date: April 25, 2013 09:33PM

wnrsm Wrote:
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> It was eesh.



Just for that, I'm getting your house Swatted.

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Re: Moreno vs Basl set for Jan 11 2016 Here's the reason why
Posted by: D4p3x ()
Date: March 26, 2015 09:27AM

Re: Personal attacks and attempted outing
Posted by: eesh ()
Date: August 07, 2012 12:48AM

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swatting



You know how easy it would be to have Scott's house swatted?

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Re: Moreno vs Basl set for Jan 11 2016 Here's the reason why
Posted by: KNG4D ()
Date: March 26, 2015 09:28AM

Who the fuck is Scott?
Posted by: 2concerned ()
Date: May 10, 2013 03:17AM

Short Version:

He was worrid about kids, got SWATTED, got pissed-off, and the cop he hated most worked with a friend who he shouldn't have trusted to have him "TDO"d.

http://www.fairfaxunderground.com/forum/read/40/1186949/1186954.html#msg-1186954

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Re: Moreno vs Basl set for Jan 11 2016 Here's the reason why
Posted by: smdh. ()
Date: March 26, 2015 10:51AM

jesus how do you become obsessed with so many uninteresting people and things? eesh you are a ridiculous sorry excuse for a man stop worrying about everyone else and what they have and worry about why you have absolutely nothing

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Re: Moreno vs Basl set for Jan 11 2016 Here's the reason why
Posted by: uninteresting people ()
Date: March 26, 2015 04:15PM

he stalks meade....everyone is more interesting than eesh...

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Re: Moreno vs Basl set for Jan 11 2016 Here's the reason why
Posted by: Always left out in life ()
Date: March 26, 2015 04:20PM

He just wants to feel included.

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Re: Moreno vs Basl set for Jan 11 2016 Here's the reason why
Posted by: You deserved it ()
Date: March 26, 2015 08:52PM

Vexxxed Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Dc7Fj Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > What did all of these people do to Eesh that
> made
> > him do all of this to them?
>
>
> We/they wouldn't go away and leave his majesty
> alone at the top of the mountain that is FFXU.


Re: We are building a domestic army
Posted by: Vexxxed ()
Date: August 15, 2013 04:34PM

eesh Wrote:
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> You are being a paranoid reactionary Vexxxed.


Beats being a halfassed fag with zero life and less prospects, I suppose.

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Re: Moreno vs Basl set for Jan 11 2016 Here's the reason why
Posted by: htm no l ()
Date: March 26, 2015 11:54PM

duhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh Wrote:
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> everyone knows in their hearts eesh did it


http://www.rbs2.com/cc.htm

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Re: Moreno vs Basl set for Jan 11 2016 Here's the reason why
Posted by: freudian slip again? ()
Date: March 26, 2015 11:58PM

Actual lawyer Wrote:
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> Lawyers only set dates at the latest possible date
> when they know that the trial will not succeed.
> Either the Morenos know they won't be able to
> handle the witness stand in front of everyone, or
> they know evidence won't be there to support their
> claims.


So you're saying there IS evidence?

What evidence does Eesh have that he DID NOT do it? That's what matter more than any evidence the Morenos have, you know that - right?

That's how this works.

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Re: Moreno vs Basl set for Jan 11 2016 Here's the reason why
Posted by: ttbL7 ()
Date: March 27, 2015 12:03AM

Preponderance of Evidence

A standard of proof that must be met by a plaintiff if he or she is to win a civil action.

In a civil case, the plaintiff has the burden of proving the facts and claims asserted in the complaint. If the respondent, or defendant, files a counterclaim, the respondent will have the burden of proving that claim. When a party has the Burden of Proof, the party must present, through testimony and exhibits, enough evidence to support the claim. The amount of evidence required varies from claim to claim. For most civil claims, there are two different evidentiary standards: preponderance of the evidence, and clear and convincing evidence. A third standard, proof Beyond a Reasonable Doubt, is used in criminal cases and very few civil cases.

The quantum of evidence that constitutes a preponderance cannot be reduced to a simple formula. A preponderance of evidence has been described as just enough evidence to make it more likely than not that the fact the claimant seeks to prove is true. It is difficult to translate this definition and apply it to evidence in a case, but the definition serves as a helpful guide to judges and juries in determining whether a claimant has carried his or her burden of proof.
The majority of civil claims are subjected to a preponderance of evidence standard. If a court or legislature seeks to make a civil claim more difficult to prove, it may raise the evidentiary standard to one of clear and convincing evidence.

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Re: Moreno vs Basl set for Jan 11 2016 Here's the reason why
Posted by: funny responses ()
Date: April 01, 2015 06:19PM

me still laughing !

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Re: Moreno vs Basl set for Jan 11 2016 Here's the reason why
Posted by: Dashcam ()
Date: April 05, 2015 10:37AM

Mhm.

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Re: Moreno vs Basl set for Jan 11 2016 Here's the reason why
Posted by: RaIpn Pootawn ()
Date: April 05, 2015 09:53PM

Actual lawyer Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Lawyers only set dates at the latest possible date
> when they know that the trial will not succeed.
> Either the Morenos know they won't be able to
> handle the witness stand in front of everyone, or
> they know evidence won't be there to support their
> claims.

Wow, that's far away.

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Re: Moreno vs Basl set for Jan 11 2016 Here's the reason why
Posted by: time flies ()
Date: January 12, 2016 11:18PM

RaIpn Pootawn Wrote:
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> Wow, that's far away.


it was yesterday

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