A clip of the President referencing evolution in a speech from 50 plus years ago?

Do politicians today speak as if evolution is a fact?

No, unfortunately the stupid are not allowing intelligent thought processes.

Thank you Evangelicals!

You're welcome. Now go kill yourself faggot.

Westboro Ministries Wrote:
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> You're welcome. Now go kill yourself faggot.


I guess you missed the day they taught to use commas to set off all geographical names, items in dates (except the month and day), addresses (except the street number and name), and titles in names.

Yeah, I was out banging your mom up the ass all day. My dick was sore, but not as sore as her rectum... walking funny for days. You probably saw it when you came home from school. She tried to pass it off saying she'd pulled a muscle, but you knew better, didn't you?

wow! Wrote:
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> Do politicians today speak as if evolution is a
> fact?

Palin- NO

Hucktard- NO

Romney - NO

Jeb - NO

Santorum - NO

wow! Wrote:
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> A clip of the President referencing evolution in a
> speech from 50 plus years ago?
>
> Do politicians today speak as if evolution is a
> fact?
>
> No, unfortunately the stupid are not allowing
> intelligent thought processes.
>
> Thank you Evangelicals!


Wow, that's deep. I was a middle-of-the-road moderate until I read your insightful interpretation of a frickin' superbowl commercial from a limey cruise company and now I hate all evangelicals and will openly support communism. You get a gold star!

???  Wrote:
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> wow! Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > A clip of the President referencing evolution in
> a
> > speech from 50 plus years ago?
> >
> > Do politicians today speak as if evolution is a
> > fact?
> >
> > No, unfortunately the stupid are not allowing
> > intelligent thought processes.
> >
> > Thank you Evangelicals!
>
>
> Wow, that's deep. I was a middle-of-the-road
> moderate until I read your insightful
> interpretation of a frickin' superbowl commercial
> from a limey cruise company and now I hate all
> evangelicals and will openly support communism.
> You get a gold star!


Didn't you just feel this “personal connection?” After all, your ancestor came out of the sea and evolved by natural processes to produce you. Don’t you feel the connection? Don’t you just want to go on one of their cruises so you can stand on the deck of a big cruise ship, look at the sea, and contemplate your accidental beginnings—and perhaps worship the sea, because it gave birth to you!

Oh—and really, you can spend a lot of money on such a cruise, but because you evolved from the sea and are just an evolved animal, and when you die you won’t even know you existed—so you won’t even remember the cruise—so what’s the point anyway? You just evolved to have an ultimately meaningless existence!

>
> Wow, that's deep. I was a middle-of-the-road
> moderate until I read your insightful
> interpretation of a frickin' superbowl commercial
> from a limey cruise company and now I hate all
> evangelicals and will openly support communism.
> You get a gold star!


Are those the only two choices? Communism or Evangelicals?

Tough world you live in.

Talk about deep (shit).

That Carnival commercial said we come from the sea.....well I believe the Bible says something different.

"We came from the sea..."

What kind of evolution crap is THAT???

God is a creationist and the founder of Intelligent Design. Those are facts.

Carnival, focus on your plumbing and not your perverse science.

Ken Ham Wrote:
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> and when you
> die you won’t even know you existed—so you
> won’t even remember the cruise—so what’s the
> point anyway? You just evolved to have an
> ultimately meaningless existence!


That's a common tactic used by Christards, conflate atheism with the concept of nihilism. Two very different things, unless you've been brainwashed into thinking that your whole life is meaningless without weird supernatural fantasies.

Ken Ham Wrote:
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>
>
> Didn't you just feel this “personal
> connection?” After all, your ancestor came out
> of the sea and evolved by natural processes to
> produce you. Don’t you feel the connection?
> Don’t you just want to go on one of their
> cruises so you can stand on the deck of a big
> cruise ship, look at the sea, and contemplate your
> accidental beginnings—and perhaps worship the
> sea, because it gave birth to you!
>
> Oh—and really, you can spend a lot of money on
> such a cruise, but because you evolved from the
> sea and are just an evolved animal, and when you
> die you won’t even know you existed—so you
> won’t even remember the cruise—so what’s the
> point anyway? You just evolved to have an
> ultimately meaningless existence!


Right on brother!

Ain't no way my paw came out of the sea. I mean the Earth is only 6000 years old anyway. We would still be all wet and salty if we come out of the sea.

And them Nig-Nogs too. Savages created by the devil. Right?

Burn em all, just like most books that are not the Bible.

One day we will be able to prove our God is God to all the infidels. Cut off their heads and put them on fences. Stone any women who will not submit to a man's will. Stop displaying bananas and apples in suggestive ways at the market. Make all the horses at the rodeo wear diapers to cover their junk. No kids or single men need to see that, it's too tempting. Kill anyone that does not comply.

That is my kind of USA. If only some group out there will show us the way.

USA! USA! USA!

Ken Ham is retarded Wrote:
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> Ken Ham Wrote:
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> -----
> > and when you
> > die you won’t even know you existed—so you
> > won’t even remember the cruise—so what’s
> the
> > point anyway? You just evolved to have an
> > ultimately meaningless existence!
>
>
> That's a common tactic used by Christards,
> conflate atheism with the concept of nihilism.
> Two very different things, unless you've been
> brainwashed into thinking that your whole life is
> meaningless without weird supernatural fantasies.


WTF is wrong with nihilism?

Don't knock it until you try it.

idontlikebeingrightaboutshitlikethisbutiam



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I saw this link on my Church's listserv, an I needed to bring reason to this silly debate.

Carnival has cruises only for homosexuals. Homosexuality is a sin. Carnival is sinning. Now, Carnival again, spits on the Bible?

Carnival, can I bring my cousin, Ollie the Octopus, on a family cruise with me?

If the answer is "no," than they just defeated their own argument.

Carnival, We came from the Garden of Eden, not the ocean floor. I am related to Adam and Eve, not a crab. If you are saying we are related to crabs, than aren't you having us commit cannibalism with you buffets every night?

We need a Sin Squad that all advertisers and politicians need to go through before taking any actions. This way we can be sure that everything is in line with the teachings of the Bible (New King James english version).

We could wear robes and hold positions of high power and respect over all the infidels.

No Nig Nogs or women allowed.

Look, there are lots of flaws with the theory of evolution. It is just a theory for non Christians to be comfortable with themselves in not accepting the Bible and Jesus Christ.

I am not related to a fish.

Louise A Wrote:
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> Carnival, We came from the Garden of Eden, not the
> ocean floor. I am related to Adam and Eve, not a
> crab. If you are saying we are related to crabs,
> than aren't you having us commit cannibalism with
> you buffets every night?


I think you may have a strong relationship with crabs.

Besides, women are unclean due to their periods and should not be posting on the Internet. Please get back into the kitchen and tend to your man.

I will never go on a Carnival ship after this monstrocity.


Darwinists, I can never get it clear from you, are we related to fish, who lay eggs, or monkies that don't.

The body is 90 percent water.

A Christian Wrote:
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> I will never go on a Carnival ship after this
> monstrocity.
>
>
> Darwinists, I can never get it clear from you, are
> we related to fish, who lay eggs, or monkies that
> don't.


Don't ask the Darwinists for an explanation. They'll go off on some science mumbo jumbo tangent with logic and reason and shit.

The answer is much simpler than that. We came from dust.

Explainer of things Wrote:
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> A Christian Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > I will never go on a Carnival ship after this
> > monstrocity.
> >
> >
> > Darwinists, I can never get it clear from you,
> are
> > we related to fish, who lay eggs, or monkies
> that
> > don't.
>
>
> Don't ask the Darwinists for an explanation.
> They'll go off on some science mumbo jumbo tangent
> with logic and reason and shit.
>
> The answer is much simpler than that. We came from
> dust.

there was a Nobel prize winning scientific study a few years ago, after a decade of DNA and molecular biology research, scientists discovered indisputable evidence that females were made from Adam's rib.

When the truth is told, the whole truth, the theory of evolution crumbles under the weight of overwhelming evidence to the contrary. What then emerges is a feeble, pathetic, and often frightening perverse historical view of the world.

Man was created by God. When you boil everyting down, if there is no God, there should be no man. There is man, so there must be God. To say otherwise, is to deny the existance of the true divinity.

Vox Dichotomy Wrote:
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> >
> > Wow, that's deep. I was a middle-of-the-road
> > moderate until I read your insightful
> > interpretation of a frickin' superbowl
> commercial
> > from a limey cruise company and now I hate all
> > evangelicals and will openly support communism.
>
> > You get a gold star!
>
>
> Are those the only two choices? Communism or
> Evangelicals?
>
> Tough world you live in.
>
> Talk about deep (shit).


Thanks! I read ???'s post and thought he was just presenting how obvious it was that the OP's lame post was just a trolling fail, but, thanks to you and your astute reply flawlessly demonstrating that he was serious, I hate him and everyone he knows. Thanks for clearing that up and helping me understand. You should get a gold star too!

Douglas Carrol Wrote:
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> When the truth is told, the whole truth, the
> theory of evolution crumbles under the weight of
> overwhelming evidence to the contrary. What then
> emerges is a feeble, pathetic, and often
> frightening perverse historical view of the
> world.
>
> Man was created by God. When you boil everyting
> down, if there is no God, there should be no man.
> There is man, so there must be God. To say
> otherwise, is to deny the existance of the true
> divinity.

One of the main reasons people begin to reject supernatural religious belief is because of nonsensical illogical arguments like that. People are a lot smarter than they were 800 years ago, they want evidence, not irrational spiritual mumbo jumbo.

Most people have limited understanding of the flaws of the theory of evolution, and even less of an understanding of "Intelligent Design."

The problem with the word "God" is that most people have been conditioned to define God as some "big bearded guy in the sky." But our feeble minds are not capable of understanding this "Designer", much like we are not truly capable of understanding most of the physical system in which we live. Does science explain how a caterpillar becomes a butterfly, and why?

Our own world is too complex for our feeble minds to understand. How then can we expect to comprehend a creator of this world, and the processes used to develop it? A person who believes in a supreme being has the humility to admit that he/she does not know all there is to know, and that there is a strong possibility that a power greater than themselves exists. The other side must exclude this part of the argument in order to make their point. That is just wrong. I understand that the "Theory of Evolution may have some limmited validity, but even if we agree that some is true, it still does not explain how it all got started, and for what purpose.

If you give God your heart, you will understand the power he has, and God is the Almighty. You then see you are not to question the Almighty, because you are not capable of asking the right questions.

All this talk about science and hoats and gays and stuff is hard to think about.

It is much easier to know my God lovingly created me and all the creatures on Earth, except the ugly ones. LOL!

And He will send hurricanes to kill all the nigger babies in New Orleans who dont beleive as I do. It's true because Mr. Falwell and Mr. Robinson told me so when I was in college.

Virginia

Centreville Baptist. Wrote:
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> Most people have limited understanding of the
> flaws of the theory of evolution, and even less of
> an understanding of "Intelligent Design."
>
> The problem with the word "God" is that most
> people have been conditioned to define God as some
> "big bearded guy in the sky." But our feeble
> minds are not capable of understanding this
> "Designer", much like we are not truly capable of
> understanding most of the physical system in which
> we live. Does science explain how a caterpillar
> becomes a butterfly, and why?
>
> Our own world is too complex for our feeble minds
> to understand. How then can we expect to
> comprehend a creator of this world, and the
> processes used to develop it? A person who
> believes in a supreme being has the humility to
> admit that he/she does not know all there is to
> know, and that there is a strong possibility that
> a power greater than themselves exists. The other
> side must exclude this part of the argument in
> order to make their point. That is just wrong.
> I understand that the "Theory of Evolution may
> have some limmited validity, but even if we agree
> that some is true, it still does not explain how
> it all got started, and for what purpose.
>
> If you give God your heart, you will understand
> the power he has, and God is the Almighty. You
> then see you are not to question the Almighty,
> because you are not capable of asking the right
> questions.


You said it brother. My feeble mind is too simple to understand all this big stuff. Everything you need to know is in the Bible! Boy I hope instructions for breathing is in one of the chapters.

Give me feebility, or give me... Wrote:
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> Centreville Baptist. Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Most people have limited understanding of the
> > flaws of the theory of evolution, and even less
> of
> > an understanding of "Intelligent Design."
> >
> > The problem with the word "God" is that most
> > people have been conditioned to define God as
> some
> > "big bearded guy in the sky." But our feeble
> > minds are not capable of understanding this
> > "Designer", much like we are not truly capable
> of
> > understanding most of the physical system in
> which
> > we live. Does science explain how a caterpillar
> > becomes a butterfly, and why?
> >
> > Our own world is too complex for our feeble
> minds
> > to understand. How then can we expect to
> > comprehend a creator of this world, and the
> > processes used to develop it? A person who
> > believes in a supreme being has the humility to
> > admit that he/she does not know all there is to
> > know, and that there is a strong possibility
> that
> > a power greater than themselves exists. The
> other
> > side must exclude this part of the argument in
> > order to make their point. That is just wrong.
>
> > I understand that the "Theory of Evolution may
> > have some limmited validity, but even if we
> agree
> > that some is true, it still does not explain
> how
> > it all got started, and for what purpose.
> >
> > If you give God your heart, you will understand
> > the power he has, and God is the Almighty. You
> > then see you are not to question the Almighty,
> > because you are not capable of asking the right
> > questions.
>
>
> You said it brother. My feeble mind is too simple
> to understand all this big stuff. Everything you
> need to know is in the Bible! Boy I hope
> instructions for breathing is in one of the
> chapters.


This concept of breath serves as a powerful force throughout the Bible.

God breathed "the breath of life" into Adam (Genesis 2:7).

Jesus "breathed on them and said to them, 'Receive the Holy Spirit'" to His disciples (John 20:22).

In 2 Peter 1:21, we are told that "no prophecy was ever produced by the will of man, but men spoke from God as they were carried along by the Holy Spirit." In each case, we find God's breath, and God giving man breath, as representative of God's perfect power and love.

???  Wrote:
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> Wow, that's deep. I was a middle-of-the-road
> moderate until I read your insightful
> interpretation of a frickin' superbowl commercial
> from a limey cruise company and now I hate all
> evangelicals and will openly support communism.
> You get a gold star!


Post of the Year to date.

Thank God, I can breath again.

I cant wait until we get to the Suni/Shiite stage of religious discussion here in the US. It is coming. No doubt about it.

How dare Carnival Cruise Lines use some text not approved by the Imam council in their commercial.

We should all follow the Mormons. At least thry have a connection to the US and allow for multiple wives.

Do we get to kill infidels yet?

Breathing again. Wrote:
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> Thank God, I can breath again.
>
> I cant wait until we get to the Suni/Shiite stage
> of religious discussion here in the US. It is
> coming. No doubt about it.
>
> How dare Carnival Cruise Lines use some text not
> approved by the Imam council in their commercial.
>
> We should all follow the Mormons. At least thry
> have a connection to the US and allow for multiple
> wives.
>
> Do we get to kill infidels yet?

Mormons accept Jesus Christ as the Son of God. Ever notice the countries where most people accept Jesus Chris as the son of God are the best countries in the world to live in?

Breathing again. Wrote:
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> Thank God, I can breath again.
>
> I cant wait until we get to the Suni/Shiite stage
> of religious discussion here in the US. It is
> coming. No doubt about it.
>
> How dare Carnival Cruise Lines use some text not
> approved by the Imam council in their commercial.
>
> We should all follow the Mormons. At least thry
> have a connection to the US and allow for multiple
> wives.
>
> Do we get to kill infidels yet?

Mormons accept Jesus Christ as the Son of God. Ever notice the countries where most people accept Jesus Chris as the son of God are the best countries in the world to live in?

Centreville Baptist. Wrote:
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> Most people have limited understanding of the
> flaws of the theory of evolution, and even less of
> an understanding of "Intelligent Design."
>
> The problem with the word "God" is that most
> people have been conditioned to define God as some
> "big bearded guy in the sky." But our feeble
> minds are not capable of understanding this
> "Designer", much like we are not truly capable of
> understanding most of the physical system in which
> we live. Does science explain how a caterpillar
> becomes a butterfly, and why?
>
> Our own world is too complex for our feeble minds
> to understand. How then can we expect to
> comprehend a creator of this world, and the
> processes used to develop it? A person who
> believes in a supreme being has the humility to
> admit that he/she does not know all there is to
> know, and that there is a strong possibility that
> a power greater than themselves exists. The other
> side must exclude this part of the argument in
> order to make their point. That is just wrong.
> I understand that the "Theory of Evolution may
> have some limmited validity, but even if we agree
> that some is true, it still does not explain how
> it all got started, and for what purpose.
>
> If you give God your heart, you will understand
> the power he has, and God is the Almighty. You
> then see you are not to question the Almighty,
> because you are not capable of asking the right
> questions.

That's a convoluted form of the dumb "god of the gaps" fallacy, "we don't know everything, therefore God is responsible". That's actually a dangerous proposition for religious adherents, because as science progresses, "God" becomes a ever-shrinking pocket of scientific ignorance that just gets smaller and smaller as time goes by."

And btw, biologists understand how caterpillars become butterflies, it's called "metamorphosis".

what century are you in? Wrote:
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> Centreville Baptist. Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Most people have limited understanding of the
> > flaws of the theory of evolution, and even less
> of
> > an understanding of "Intelligent Design."
> >
> > The problem with the word "God" is that most
> > people have been conditioned to define God as
> some
> > "big bearded guy in the sky." But our feeble
> > minds are not capable of understanding this
> > "Designer", much like we are not truly capable
> of
> > understanding most of the physical system in
> which
> > we live. Does science explain how a caterpillar
> > becomes a butterfly, and why?
> >
> > Our own world is too complex for our feeble
> minds
> > to understand. How then can we expect to
> > comprehend a creator of this world, and the
> > processes used to develop it? A person who
> > believes in a supreme being has the humility to
> > admit that he/she does not know all there is to
> > know, and that there is a strong possibility
> that
> > a power greater than themselves exists. The
> other
> > side must exclude this part of the argument in
> > order to make their point. That is just wrong.
>
> > I understand that the "Theory of Evolution may
> > have some limmited validity, but even if we
> agree
> > that some is true, it still does not explain
> how
> > it all got started, and for what purpose.
> >
> > If you give God your heart, you will understand
> > the power he has, and God is the Almighty. You
> > then see you are not to question the Almighty,
> > because you are not capable of asking the right
> > questions.
>
> That's a convoluted form of the dumb "god of the
> gaps" fallacy, "we don't know everything,
> therefore God is responsible". That's actually a
> dangerous proposition for religious adherents,
> because as science progresses, "God" becomes a
> ever-shrinking pocket of scientific ignorance that
> just gets smaller and smaller as time goes by."
>
> And btw, biologists understand how caterpillars
> become butterflies, it's called "metamorphosis".

But why do they become butterflies? See we are not capable of asking the right questions.

Brothers and Sisters,

To avoid the apostasy coming our way, it is essential that we are all first rooted and grounded in the truth of the Scripture. We should all take care to deeply root ourselves in the historical Christian church and the Bible's teachings. If any of you wish to read more than the Bible, than I recommend you start with a thorough study of the apostolic fathers who wrote between AD 80 and AD 150. These men were discipled by the Apostles themselves. With those groundings, we can have the debate.

Once every one has these groundings, we can have a civil debate.

Here is what needs to be done in order for that civil debate to be allowed

1. We must obliterate the dualist distinction between sacred knowledge and perverse secular knowledge once and for all. To pretend that there can be religious neutrality with the theory of evolution is disingenuous at best, and will only do damage to the world.

2. We must teach God as the beginning of man, knowledge, and wisdom in every classroom and in every textbook (whether public, private, or home school).

The game has always been played on your field. It is time to take the game to the other field.

> But why do they become butterflies?

Because it provides them with distinct advantages to compete for resources with other organisms in their environment- like being able to reach the plant nectar they need to survive and fly long distances where they can colonize other environs. If caterpillars could exist on their own without transforming, they would. That's kind of like asking why babies transform into adults. Because a population of babies would die out pretty quickly if it didn't adapt to its environment.

I can't imagine how the "god hypothesis" answers that question with any credibility.

Biology 101 Wrote:
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> > But why do they become butterflies?
>
> Because it provides them with distinct advantages
> to compete for resources with other organisms in
> their environment- like being able to reach the
> plant nectar they need to survive and fly long
> distances where they can colonize other environs.
> If caterpillars could exist on their own without
> transforming, they would. That's kind of like
> asking why babies transform into adults. Because
> a population of babies would die out pretty
> quickly if it didn't adapt to its environment.
>
> I can't imagine how the "god hypothesis" answers
> that question with any credibility.


If you are to believe evolution existed, than you are now skipping several steps with this argument.

Take a wingless dinosaur which alledgeldy began to evolve wings. Why a wingless dino would start to develop wings in the first place is never answered by evolutionists. The wing stub would not make the bird more adaptable to his environment, it would probably be a hinderence. This is backwards from the evolutionary theory of natural selection, which states that birds adapt and change in order to survive better in their environment. The bird with a half-size wing is placed at a disadvantage in its environment. Why would the bird continue for millions of generations to improve a wing stub that is useless? The Theory of Evolution is based on natural selection of the most adaptable member of a species, not the weakest. A bird with a useless wing is at a severe disadvantage. This is the opposite of natural selection.

Douglas Carrol Wrote:
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> Biology 101 Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > > But why do they become butterflies?
> >
> > Because it provides them with distinct
> advantages
> > to compete for resources with other organisms
> in
> > their environment- like being able to reach the
> > plant nectar they need to survive and fly long
> > distances where they can colonize other
> environs.
> > If caterpillars could exist on their own
> without
> > transforming, they would. That's kind of like
> > asking why babies transform into adults.
> Because
> > a population of babies would die out pretty
> > quickly if it didn't adapt to its environment.
> >
> > I can't imagine how the "god hypothesis"
> answers
> > that question with any credibility.
>
>
> If you are to believe evolution existed, than you
> are now skipping several steps with this
> argument.
>
> Take a wingless dinosaur which alledgeldy began to
> evolve wings. Why a wingless dino would start to
> develop wings in the first place is never answered
> by evolutionists. The wing stub would not make the
> bird more adaptable to his environment, it would
> probably be a hinderence. This is backwards from
> the evolutionary theory of natural selection,
> which states that birds adapt and change in order
> to survive better in their environment. The bird
> with a half-size wing is placed at a disadvantage
> in its environment. Why would the bird continue
> for millions of generations to improve a wing stub
> that is useless? The Theory of Evolution is based
> on natural selection of the most adaptable member
> of a species, not the weakest. A bird with a
> useless wing is at a severe disadvantage. This is
> the opposite of natural selection.


I'm sold!!!

When do we get to kill the infidel heathen athiests and jews?

I am a Christian, and I believe that we were created by God. Maybe he mixed the clay with seawater, I don't know. I don't have to know how he did it, I just know that he did. Believing in science does not go against my belief in God.

Scientists make new discoveries every day, and whose to say that the writers of the bible knew only that we were created by the lord, but didn't know how to explain it. That's where faith comes in, you don't have to know scientifically how things occur, you only have to know that it did occur.

Laurie Wrote:
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> I am a Christian, and I believe that we were
> created by God. Maybe he mixed the clay with
> seawater, I don't know. I don't have to know how
> he did it, I just know that he did. Believing in
> science does not go against my belief in God.
>
> Scientists make new discoveries every day, and
> whose to say that the writers of the bible knew
> only that we were created by the lord, but didn't
> know how to explain it. That's where faith comes
> in, you don't have to know scientifically how
> things occur, you only have to know that it did
> occur.

ALL HAIL THE MIGHTY XENU!!!!!

I also found this on my church's list serve, and here are my thoughts from a Christian, and a Biblical thinker.

Science has found that we were initially created by sound waves. God said "Let there be..." and things happened each time. God said... then sound waves, then stuff appeared. Get it?

I think that they formed the Idea of evolution out of the Bible because God did create things in a precise order. When God finished with the main stuff (sun, Earth, etc.), God got down in the mud (Maybe with salt water) and used His own hands to form us.

He blow His breath into us so we became alive, and we were created in his image. I believe Creation and evolution walk hand in hand. I do not believe we just happened. I also don't believe we are related to monkeys. Our brains are much bigger, and everything in the human body is too perfect (if you let it be).

If you have ever had a child, you know something greater than us did this. If you ever drank cold water on a hot day, you know everything is placed here for a reason.

Janet Wrote:
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> I also found this on my church's list serve, and
> here are my thoughts from a Christian, and a
> Biblical thinker.
>
> Science has found that we were initially created
> by sound waves. God said "Let there be..." and
> things happened each time. God said... then sound
> waves, then stuff appeared. Get it?
>
> I think that they formed the Idea of evolution out
> of the Bible because God did create things in a
> precise order. When God finished with the main
> stuff (sun, Earth, etc.), God got down in the
> mud (Maybe with salt water) and used His own hands
> to form us.
>
> He blow His breath into us so we became alive, and
> we were created in his image. I believe Creation
> and evolution walk hand in hand. I do not believe
> we just happened. I also don't believe we are
> related to monkeys. Our brains are much bigger,
> and everything in the human body is too perfect
> (if you let it be).
>
> If you have ever had a child, you know something
> greater than us did this. If you ever drank cold
> water on a hot day, you know everything is placed
> here for a reason.

Thanks, Janet, for emailing me this link. I was wondering how long it would take the apostates and the atheists to cram this commercial down our throats.

So, we have Neil deGrasse Tyson in his "Cosmos" series telling us we are all stardust—we are children of the stars (no wonder Fox cancelled that BS).

And now we have the Carnival Cruise Corporation telling us we all came from the sea.

So, what we are told is to worship the stars or worship the sea! (Because, of course, there is no God to worship). That’s the increasing state of our culture as many are forced against their will to deny Christianity, and abandon the truth of God’s Word. For that, I blame the apostate liberals in our school systems.

It’s mind-boggling to think that seamingly intelligent people can actually believe life (and the whole universe) came about by accident! Ludicrous!

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William Wrote:
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>
>
> It’s mind-boggling to think that seamingly
> intelligent people can actually believe life (and
> the whole universe) came about by accident!
> Ludicrous!


"Accident" is the wrong word, but to try to understand this since you're "seamingly (sic) intelligent", why don't you start at a more basic level and consider whether random events can create more complicated things from simpler things. The answer to that is yes. Random events can create more complicated and more stable things from simpler things. On a VERY basic level, this is the process of evolution. Hydrogen and carbon combine to form methane. Methane combines with water, ammonia and hydrogen and you get amino acids, and off you go. Give the mix a few hundred million years, and you get very simple things, little more than large molecules, that can replicate themselves in a very primitive and inaccurate way (there are such molecules - RNA is one). That's life on a very basic level.

UmUKD Wrote:
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> William Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> >
> >
> > It’s mind-boggling to think that seamingly
> > intelligent people can actually believe life
> (and
> > the whole universe) came about by accident!
> > Ludicrous!
>
>
> "Accident" is the wrong word, but to try to
> understand this since you're "seamingly (sic)
> intelligent", why don't you start at a more basic
> level and consider whether random events can
> create more complicated things from simpler
> things. The answer to that is yes. Random events
> can create more complicated and more stable things
> from simpler things. On a VERY basic level, this
> is the process of evolution. Hydrogen and carbon
> combine to form methane. Methane combines with
> water, ammonia and hydrogen and you get amino
> acids, and off you go. Give the mix a few hundred
> million years, and you get very simple things,
> little more than large molecules, that can
> replicate themselves in a very primitive and
> inaccurate way (there are such molecules - RNA is
> one). That's life on a very basic level.

That does not put cash into the collection box or keep our flock living in fear and ignorance.

I disregard your reality and substitute one from the Bible.

So there!

William Wrote:
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> So, what we are told is to worship the stars or
> worship the sea!

There's absolutely no reason to worship anything at all, except to fulfill the childish emotion known as "wishful thinking".

Carnival Cruise Lines does not believe in God. We now know why they have been having so many disasters at sea lately.


Praise God!

UmUKD Wrote:
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> William Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> >
> >
> > It’s mind-boggling to think that seamingly
> > intelligent people can actually believe life
> (and
> > the whole universe) came about by accident!
> > Ludicrous!
>
>
> "Accident" is the wrong word, but to try to
> understand this since you're "seamingly (sic)
> intelligent", why don't you start at a more basic
> level and consider whether random events can
> create more complicated things from simpler
> things. The answer to that is yes. Random events
> can create more complicated and more stable things
> from simpler things. On a VERY basic level, this
> is the process of evolution. Hydrogen and carbon
> combine to form methane. Methane combines with
> water, ammonia and hydrogen and you get amino
> acids, and off you go. Give the mix a few hundred
> million years, and you get very simple things,
> little more than large molecules, that can
> replicate themselves in a very primitive and
> inaccurate way (there are such molecules - RNA is
> one). That's life on a very basic level.


Follow along sparky: something can not come from nothing. Never. Ever. Not once. Give the mix of a few trillion years and still, never ever.

worship my ass Wrote:
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> William Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > So, what we are told is to worship the stars or
> > worship the sea!
>
> There's absolutely no reason to worship anything
> at all, except to fulfill the childish emotion
> known as "wishful thinking".


And yet, man must worship. If not God, then money. Or sex. Or knowledge. Or himself. There is something intrinsic in man to worship. Who or what he chooses to worship is interesting indeed. You apparently worship your ass. Nice.

>
> Follow along sparky: something can not come from
> nothing. Never. Ever. Not once. Give the mix
> of a few trillion years and still, never ever.


"Something can not come from nothing" is not a scientific statement. It's at best a theological or philosophical statement, and I was discussing science. In any event, I was talking about the origin of life, and nowhere did I say that life came from nothing. I described what life came from, and it did not come from nothing.

The "something can't come from nothing" argument is bogus anyway. If it's true, then "God" must have come from something, which negates the omnipotent/eternal quality ascribed by cristian dogma. So "God" was created by something, something that would have to be more complex and powerful, which means there wasn't one "God", but a whole series of gods creating other gods, etc. because "something can't come from nothing".


It makes absolutely no sense whatsoever.

typical dumb theist argument Wrote:
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> The "something can't come from nothing" argument
> is bogus anyway. If it's true, then "God" must
> have come from something, which negates the
> omnipotent/eternal quality ascribed by cristian
> dogma. So "God" was created by something,
> something that would have to be more complex and
> powerful, which means there wasn't one "God", but
> a whole series of gods creating other gods, etc.
> because "something can't come from nothing".
>
>
> It makes absolutely no sense whatsoever.


Stop using logic!!!

It annoys the religious-minded folk and makes them have crusades and jihads and stuff.

Creationists are adorable with their God and dust and fairy tales and stuff.

Creationist-tardz!

LoLz!

Creationists! LoLz! Wrote:
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> Creationists are adorable with their God and dust
> and fairy tales and stuff.
>
> Creationist-tardz!
>
> LoLz!


It is possible to believe in god and science, and you're not a "tard" if you believe in god. However, it isn't possible to literally believe that the universe is 6000 or so years old, and that humans started with Adam and Eve, without being a "tard". Sorry.

Man from Vulcan Wrote:
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> typical dumb theist argument Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > The "something can't come from nothing"
> argument
> > is bogus anyway. If it's true, then "God" must
> > have come from something, which negates the
> > omnipotent/eternal quality ascribed by cristian
> > dogma. So "God" was created by something,
> > something that would have to be more complex
> and
> > powerful, which means there wasn't one "God",
> but
> > a whole series of gods creating other gods,
> etc.
> > because "something can't come from nothing".
> >
> >
> > It makes absolutely no sense whatsoever.
>
>
> Stop using logic!!!
>
> It annoys the religious-minded folk and makes them
> have crusades and jihads and stuff.


OMG, you're right!!!! It's perfectly logical to believe that something comes from nothing. How can anyone not see how much sense that makes. Why couldn't I see that before??? You must be some Einstein or something.

typical dumb theist argument Wrote:
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> The "something can't come from nothing" argument
> is bogus anyway. If it's true, then "God" must
> have come from something, which negates the
> omnipotent/eternal quality ascribed by cristian
> dogma. So "God" was created by something,
> something that would have to be more complex and
> powerful, which means there wasn't one "God", but
> a whole series of gods creating other gods, etc.
> because "something can't come from nothing".
>
>
> It makes absolutely no sense whatsoever.


God is super-natural. He exists outside the laws of nature as He is the creator of those laws. However, you anti-Godhadists must accept the laws of nature. Sorry, your fail is mighty. Try again.

FcmDF Wrote:
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> typical dumb theist argument Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > The "something can't come from nothing"
> argument
> > is bogus anyway. If it's true, then "God" must
> > have come from something, which negates the
> > omnipotent/eternal quality ascribed by cristian
> > dogma. So "God" was created by something,
> > something that would have to be more complex
> and
> > powerful, which means there wasn't one "God",
> but
> > a whole series of gods creating other gods,
> etc.
> > because "something can't come from nothing".
> >
> >
> > It makes absolutely no sense whatsoever.
>
>
> God is super-natural. He exists outside the laws
> of nature as He is the creator of those laws.
> However, you anti-Godhadists must accept the laws
> of nature. Sorry, your fail is mighty. Try
> again.

So you are saying that God could be Gay and made of cotton candy and cavier with a giant infra red remote control that he uses on all living things, including individual cells?

Or "super-natural like Penn and Teller, or one of those black psychic palm reader ladies in an old Photo Hut building?

Cool.

I didn't vote for him.

There should be term-limits, and some of the other lesser-known gods should be allowed to try out their magic spells and hocus-pocus for a few millennium.

God knows they can't do any worse than what the current one is doing.

I mean look at the Middle East, Africa and Mississippi for God's sake.

Pitiful

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Do ghosts exist?

Of all the people I've known that have died over the years, maybe 100 or so, of all different personalities, (jokesters, rule followers, believers, non believers, etc) how come I've never seen one of them as a ghost? Why hasn't one come down, like my mother, and said hey, everything's cool...

Why is that when there is a huge natural disaster, or a man made disaster like a fire, oft times they'll interview somebody who was "spared", and they'll say something like, "but for god's grace, that would've been me", or, "thank god, he saved me" when like a family, with small kids and infants got killed?

Did the infants have it coming to them in god's eyes?

Really?

What could the infant have done? Pooped on the floor? Or, did god burn them up in a fire, along with their family, so he take them to heaven? And along the way, destroy half the neighborhood and kill quite a few others? Why do that?

Why wouldn't god just make them "disappear", instead of taking through a disaster that has all appearances of being random, or natural, or man made...wouldn't that really show "his" power. if, say, a giant god hand came out of the sky and took the one month old infant and just threw the baby up to the sky?

Why is that god will get some people through some medical issues, but nobody has ever grown an arm or leg back? Is that just off limits for god?