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Will Obama whip out his pen and kill Pipeline XL?
Posted by:
Pilot G-2
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Date: January 29, 2015 04:37PM
SENATE PASSES BY 62-36 BILL TO APPROVE KEYSTONE, DEFYING OBAMA
Re: Will Obama whip out his pen and kill Pipeline XL?
Posted by:
Real Truth
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Date: January 29, 2015 05:24PM
I sure hope so!~
Obama is the one person TransCanada can't payoff.
If TransCanada wants to pipe oil through the US instead of Canada they need to pay into the US Oil Spill and Liability Fund. Especially considering all the pipelines spills in the last two years.
Completely ridiculous that Canada won't let TransCanada pipe through Canada so they are going to pipe through the US.
Obama is the one person TransCanada can't payoff.
If TransCanada wants to pipe oil through the US instead of Canada they need to pay into the US Oil Spill and Liability Fund. Especially considering all the pipelines spills in the last two years.
Completely ridiculous that Canada won't let TransCanada pipe through Canada so they are going to pipe through the US.
Re: Will Obama whip out his pen and kill Pipeline XL?
Posted by:
kFKpb
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Date: January 29, 2015 05:36PM
Go for it. The only ones who that will play well with are a small minority of left-end dummies like the above.
Re: Will Obama whip out his pen and kill Pipeline XL?
Posted by:
Gerry's Kids
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Date: January 29, 2015 06:41PM
Of course he'll veto it. If it's good for America, he's against it.
Re: Will Obama whip out his pen and kill Pipeline XL?
Posted by:
iLester
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Date: January 29, 2015 07:06PM
The oil refiners in Texas want it.
Re: Will Obama whip out his pen and kill Pipeline XL?
Posted by:
johnny ringo
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Date: January 29, 2015 07:07PM
Excuse me while I whip this out.
Re: Will Obama whip out his pen and kill Pipeline XL?
Posted by:
Napper9999
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Date: January 29, 2015 07:10PM
With his arrogance at the SOTU, yes and he will do it grinning.
Re: Will Obama whip out his pen and kill Pipeline XL?
Posted by:
TransCanada
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Date: January 31, 2015 11:55AM
Nobody wants a TransCanada pipeline in their state.
Nebraska and several other states have already filed motions to reject the constitutional right of the federal government to force the pipeline in the their state.
TransCanada has filed backed against the Landowners-
TransCanada Corp., the Canadian company behind the Keystone XL pipeline, filed eminent domain proceedings against an estimated 90 Nebraska landowners Tuesday to secure the right to build the controversial project across their property.
“Today we initiated these actions in the state of Nebraska, but that does not mean we’re done working toward a voluntary agreement,” said Andrew Craig, TransCanada’s land manager for Keystone projects. “Our goal today is that, over the next six months, we are able to address any concerns they have about the project.... The current landowner will continue to own the land.”
Keystone XL pipeline: Here's what both sides are saying on the issue
Keystone XL pipeline: Here's what both sides are saying on the issue
TransCanada’s legal filings are an effort to gain what is called an easement — the right to construct the pipeline on private land that others own. They are the latest step in a years-long fight over the project, which cannot go forward without President Obama’s approval.
Nebraska and several other states have already filed motions to reject the constitutional right of the federal government to force the pipeline in the their state.
TransCanada has filed backed against the Landowners-
TransCanada Corp., the Canadian company behind the Keystone XL pipeline, filed eminent domain proceedings against an estimated 90 Nebraska landowners Tuesday to secure the right to build the controversial project across their property.
“Today we initiated these actions in the state of Nebraska, but that does not mean we’re done working toward a voluntary agreement,” said Andrew Craig, TransCanada’s land manager for Keystone projects. “Our goal today is that, over the next six months, we are able to address any concerns they have about the project.... The current landowner will continue to own the land.”
Keystone XL pipeline: Here's what both sides are saying on the issue
Keystone XL pipeline: Here's what both sides are saying on the issue
TransCanada’s legal filings are an effort to gain what is called an easement — the right to construct the pipeline on private land that others own. They are the latest step in a years-long fight over the project, which cannot go forward without President Obama’s approval.
Re: Will Obama whip out his pen and kill Pipeline XL?
Posted by:
veto needs a ceremony
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Date: January 31, 2015 11:58AM
Re: Will Obama whip out his pen and kill Pipeline XL?
Posted by:
FUCK CANADA!
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Date: January 31, 2015 09:11PM
When was the last time Canada ever did shit? Canada is bunch of pussies and I'll be damned their going to get a free a ride to pipe their oil through the US to the Gulf!
Republicans once again selling out America to the highest bidder. Worst here is selling out to Canada! Pathetic!
I have lost all respect for Republicans! Fucking dems want to pay for people not working... fuck that too!
Republicans once again selling out America to the highest bidder. Worst here is selling out to Canada! Pathetic!
I have lost all respect for Republicans! Fucking dems want to pay for people not working... fuck that too!
Re: Will Obama whip out his pen and kill Pipeline XL?
Posted by:
Yummy
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Date: January 31, 2015 10:34PM
FUCK CANADA! Wrote:
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> When was the last time Canada ever did shit?
> Canada is bunch of pussies and I'll be damned
> their going to get a free a ride to pipe their oil
> through the US to the Gulf!
>
> Republicans once again selling out America to the
> highest bidder. Worst here is selling out to
> Canada! Pathetic!
>
> I have lost all respect for Republicans! Fucking
> dems want to pay for people not working... fuck
> that too!
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> When was the last time Canada ever did shit?
> Canada is bunch of pussies and I'll be damned
> their going to get a free a ride to pipe their oil
> through the US to the Gulf!
>
> Republicans once again selling out America to the
> highest bidder. Worst here is selling out to
> Canada! Pathetic!
>
> I have lost all respect for Republicans! Fucking
> dems want to pay for people not working... fuck
> that too!
Re: Will Obama whip out his pen and kill Pipeline XL?
Posted by:
Testr
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Date: February 01, 2015 03:43PM
Some conservative on this site sure is obsessed with butthurt. Closet gay conservative?
Re: Will Obama whip out his pen and kill Pipeline XL?
Posted by:
Real real truth
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Date: February 01, 2015 11:40PM
Real Truth Wrote:
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> I sure hope so!~
> Especially considering
> all the pipelines spills in the last two years.
>
There are very few crude pipeline ruptures in the US. Much more likely for gas pipelines to break.
In fact, there were only 7 crude pipeline leaks in 2013 (Arkansas x 2, Missouri, Texas x 2, Oklahoma, North Dakota), 5 in 2014 (Texas, California, Louisiana, New York, Ohio) and 1 so far in 2015 (Montana).
Most crude spills don't even make the paper and are quickly cleaned up.
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> I sure hope so!~
> Especially considering
> all the pipelines spills in the last two years.
>
There are very few crude pipeline ruptures in the US. Much more likely for gas pipelines to break.
In fact, there were only 7 crude pipeline leaks in 2013 (Arkansas x 2, Missouri, Texas x 2, Oklahoma, North Dakota), 5 in 2014 (Texas, California, Louisiana, New York, Ohio) and 1 so far in 2015 (Montana).
Most crude spills don't even make the paper and are quickly cleaned up.
Re: Will Obama whip out his pen and kill Pipeline XL?
Posted by:
that you knoe
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Date: February 01, 2015 11:43PM
Real real truth Wrote:
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> Real Truth Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > I sure hope so!~
> > Especially considering
> > all the pipelines spills in the last two years.
> >
>
> There are very few crude pipeline ruptures in the
> US. Much more likely for gas pipelines to break.
>
> In fact, there were only 7 crude pipeline leaks in
> 2013 (Arkansas x 2, Missouri, Texas x 2, Oklahoma,
> North Dakota), 5 in 2014 (Texas, California,
> Louisiana, New York, Ohio) and 1 so far in 2015
> (Montana).
>
> Most crude spills don't even make the paper and
> are quickly cleaned up.
That you know of. Plus fuck Republicans. How about they focus on something productive like an actual jobs bill. They dont get shit for the rich until they learn how to govern again.
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> Real Truth Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > I sure hope so!~
> > Especially considering
> > all the pipelines spills in the last two years.
> >
>
> There are very few crude pipeline ruptures in the
> US. Much more likely for gas pipelines to break.
>
> In fact, there were only 7 crude pipeline leaks in
> 2013 (Arkansas x 2, Missouri, Texas x 2, Oklahoma,
> North Dakota), 5 in 2014 (Texas, California,
> Louisiana, New York, Ohio) and 1 so far in 2015
> (Montana).
>
> Most crude spills don't even make the paper and
> are quickly cleaned up.
That you know of. Plus fuck Republicans. How about they focus on something productive like an actual jobs bill. They dont get shit for the rich until they learn how to govern again.
Re: Will Obama whip out his pen and kill Pipeline XL?
Posted by:
Fucking Obama!
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Date: February 02, 2015 08:01AM
that you knoe Wrote:
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> Real real truth Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Real Truth Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > I sure hope so!~
> > > Especially considering
> > > all the pipelines spills in the last two
> years.
> > >
> >
> > There are very few crude pipeline ruptures in
> the
> > US. Much more likely for gas pipelines to
> break.
> >
> > In fact, there were only 7 crude pipeline leaks
> in
> > 2013 (Arkansas x 2, Missouri, Texas x 2,
> Oklahoma,
> > North Dakota), 5 in 2014 (Texas, California,
> > Louisiana, New York, Ohio) and 1 so far in 2015
> > (Montana).
> >
> > Most crude spills don't even make the paper and
> > are quickly cleaned up.
>
> That you know of. Plus fuck Republicans. How about
> they focus on something productive like an actual
> jobs bill. They dont get shit for the rich until
> they learn how to govern again.
200 jobs to build the pipeline for 2yrs. 50 jobs to maintain it after built. A max total of around 300 jobs created by republicans(Actually TransCanada).
Meanwhile Obama works on the economy adding 150,000 jobs each month. You be the judge.
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> Real real truth Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Real Truth Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > I sure hope so!~
> > > Especially considering
> > > all the pipelines spills in the last two
> years.
> > >
> >
> > There are very few crude pipeline ruptures in
> the
> > US. Much more likely for gas pipelines to
> break.
> >
> > In fact, there were only 7 crude pipeline leaks
> in
> > 2013 (Arkansas x 2, Missouri, Texas x 2,
> Oklahoma,
> > North Dakota), 5 in 2014 (Texas, California,
> > Louisiana, New York, Ohio) and 1 so far in 2015
> > (Montana).
> >
> > Most crude spills don't even make the paper and
> > are quickly cleaned up.
>
> That you know of. Plus fuck Republicans. How about
> they focus on something productive like an actual
> jobs bill. They dont get shit for the rich until
> they learn how to govern again.
200 jobs to build the pipeline for 2yrs. 50 jobs to maintain it after built. A max total of around 300 jobs created by republicans(Actually TransCanada).
Meanwhile Obama works on the economy adding 150,000 jobs each month. You be the judge.
Re: Will Obama whip out his pen and kill Pipeline XL?
Posted by:
US State Department
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Date: February 02, 2015 11:28AM
Fucking Obama! Wrote:
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>
> 200 jobs to build the pipeline for 2yrs. 50 jobs
> to maintain it after built. A max total of around
> 300 jobs created by republicans(Actually
> TransCanada).
>
> Meanwhile Obama works on the economy adding
> 150,000 jobs each month. You be the judge.
Your 200 number is ridiculously low. Which is obvious to anyone who puts a moment of actual thought into what it takes to build something of this magnitude.
"During construction, proposed Project spending would support approximately 42,100 jobs (direct, indirect, and induced), and approximately $2 billion in earnings
throughout the United States. Of these jobs, approximately 3,900 would be direct construction jobs in the proposed Project area in Montana, South Dakota, Nebraska, and Kansas (3,900 over 1 year of construction, or 1,950 per year if construction took 2 years). Construction of the proposed Project would contribute approximately $3.4 billion (or 0.02 percent) to the U.S. gross domestic product (GDP). The proposed Project would generate approximately 50 jobs during operations."
http://keystonepipeline-xl.state.gov/documents/organization/221135.pdf
The 50 jobs estimate is only counting those jobs related to directly operating the pipeline itself on a full-time basis. It's not counting any associated and indirect employment. e.g., maintenance, repairs, improvments done by those not working full-time in operations, outside contractors, equipment suppliers, whatever incremental employment at suppliers, contractors, refineries, etc.
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>
> 200 jobs to build the pipeline for 2yrs. 50 jobs
> to maintain it after built. A max total of around
> 300 jobs created by republicans(Actually
> TransCanada).
>
> Meanwhile Obama works on the economy adding
> 150,000 jobs each month. You be the judge.
Your 200 number is ridiculously low. Which is obvious to anyone who puts a moment of actual thought into what it takes to build something of this magnitude.
"During construction, proposed Project spending would support approximately 42,100 jobs (direct, indirect, and induced), and approximately $2 billion in earnings
throughout the United States. Of these jobs, approximately 3,900 would be direct construction jobs in the proposed Project area in Montana, South Dakota, Nebraska, and Kansas (3,900 over 1 year of construction, or 1,950 per year if construction took 2 years). Construction of the proposed Project would contribute approximately $3.4 billion (or 0.02 percent) to the U.S. gross domestic product (GDP). The proposed Project would generate approximately 50 jobs during operations."
http://keystonepipeline-xl.state.gov/documents/organization/221135.pdf
The 50 jobs estimate is only counting those jobs related to directly operating the pipeline itself on a full-time basis. It's not counting any associated and indirect employment. e.g., maintenance, repairs, improvments done by those not working full-time in operations, outside contractors, equipment suppliers, whatever incremental employment at suppliers, contractors, refineries, etc.
Re: Will Obama whip out his pen and kill Pipeline XL?
Posted by:
stop the bullshit
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Date: February 02, 2015 11:36AM
Lmao indirect jobs. I bet your counting existing transcanada execs in toronto too huh? 3900 is max for a year for construction then only 45 after that. A blip, absolutely insignificant for job creation.
And this is all Republicans have. For six years Republicans have said jobs jobs jobs vote us in. And this is all they could come up with once in.
And this is all Republicans have. For six years Republicans have said jobs jobs jobs vote us in. And this is all they could come up with once in.
Re: Will Obama whip out his pen and kill Pipeline XL?
Posted by:
Real Numbers
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Date: February 02, 2015 12:43PM
42,000 in indirect jobs? LMAO!!!!!!!!!
I guess that includes people who are working at McDonald's where a worker might buy a Big Mac at some point in time? A stewardess on a commercial plane? REALLY in fantasy land with those numbers of "creating jobs."
A normal pipeline laying crew is no more than 45 people. Add another 100 or so for management, admins and delivery of materials. You'll be struggling to break 200.
I guess that includes people who are working at McDonald's where a worker might buy a Big Mac at some point in time? A stewardess on a commercial plane? REALLY in fantasy land with those numbers of "creating jobs."
A normal pipeline laying crew is no more than 45 people. Add another 100 or so for management, admins and delivery of materials. You'll be struggling to break 200.
Re: Will Obama whip out his pen and kill Pipeline XL?
Posted by:
6KTdw
()
Date: February 02, 2015 10:26PM
Real Numbers Wrote:
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> 42,000 in indirect jobs? LMAO!!!!!!!!!
>
> I guess that includes people who are working at
> McDonald's where a worker might buy a Big Mac at
> some point in time? A stewardess on a commercial
> plane? REALLY in fantasy land with those numbers
> of "creating jobs."
>
> A normal pipeline laying crew is no more than 45
> people. Add another 100 or so for management,
> admins and delivery of materials. You'll be
> struggling to break 200.
I guess you retards didn't notice that it's from Obama's State Department's own EIS for the project. lol
Of course they count indirect jobs. Legitimately so. Just like they count indirect economic effects otherwise. And they do, oh, for example, say when counting "jobs created or saved" by things like the stimulus. Or for food stamp transfers. Jobs created by solar and wind projects. etc., etc. Or do you not want to count those now?
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> 42,000 in indirect jobs? LMAO!!!!!!!!!
>
> I guess that includes people who are working at
> McDonald's where a worker might buy a Big Mac at
> some point in time? A stewardess on a commercial
> plane? REALLY in fantasy land with those numbers
> of "creating jobs."
>
> A normal pipeline laying crew is no more than 45
> people. Add another 100 or so for management,
> admins and delivery of materials. You'll be
> struggling to break 200.
I guess you retards didn't notice that it's from Obama's State Department's own EIS for the project. lol
Of course they count indirect jobs. Legitimately so. Just like they count indirect economic effects otherwise. And they do, oh, for example, say when counting "jobs created or saved" by things like the stimulus. Or for food stamp transfers. Jobs created by solar and wind projects. etc., etc. Or do you not want to count those now?
Re: Will Obama whip out his pen and kill Pipeline XL?
Posted by:
FUCK CANADA!
()
Date: February 03, 2015 11:01PM
FUCK TRANSCANADA!
What the fuck has Canada every done for the US? NOTHING They never participate in NATO! Now Canada wants the right to kick Americans off their lands! FUCK CANADA!
What the fuck has Canada every done for the US? NOTHING They never participate in NATO! Now Canada wants the right to kick Americans off their lands! FUCK CANADA!
Re: Will Obama whip out his pen and kill Pipeline XL?
Posted by:
jgdffgr
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Date: February 03, 2015 11:07PM
Price of oil is up 11% in 2 days. If you libtardz want expensive gas/oil for heat, then you're about to get your wish. Sand niggers overseas predicting close to $200/barrel eventually.
Veto away Barrack Hussein Obama. The cost of food (due to transportation), the cost of heating homes, and the cost of operating cars (gas and oil) will all be on your sorry nigger ass.
Veto away Barrack Hussein Obama. The cost of food (due to transportation), the cost of heating homes, and the cost of operating cars (gas and oil) will all be on your sorry nigger ass.
Re: Will Obama whip out his pen and kill Pipeline XL?
Posted by:
WweKd
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Date: February 03, 2015 11:26PM
Gas is so cheap now, its price will never rise again!