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Gays still not welcome in the Catholic church
Posted by: Fox News ()
Date: October 18, 2014 05:05PM

Catholic bishops reject welcome to gays in sign of split
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2014/10/18/bishops-scrap-welcome-to-gays/17502055/

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Bishops and Cardinals attend a morning session of a two-week synod on family issues at the Vatican, on Oct. 13, 2014


VATICAN CITY — Catholic bishops rejected a landmark change Saturday in the rigid stance on gays and divorcees, revealing enormous gaps within the church at the end of a two-week meeting.

The synod's final statement failed to include remarkably conciliatory language revealed a week ago that would have welcomed the "gifts and qualities" of gay Catholics and called on pastors to "avoid any language or behavior" that could discriminate against divorced Catholics.

While the language on gays had been softened during discussion in the meeting's last days, the final document failed to receive the two-thirds majority vote it needed. The bishops did, however, praise conjugal love — love within the bounds of traditional marriage — calling it "one of the most beautiful of all miracles and the most common."

Still, the failure to reach a consensus on broader-reaching language, is a failure for the more tolerant tone Pope Francis has struck since taking the role of pontiff more than a year ago. Last year, the pope made waves when, in response to a question about whether gays could be good Christians, he asked, "Who am I to judge?"

After the vote Saturday, Francis warned bishops against what he called "hostile rigidity" in their thinking on these topics, his remarks earning a five-minute standing ovation.

The Vatican downplayed Saturday's developments, with Vatican spokesman Federico Lombardi stressing at a briefing that the document — which sets guidelines for pastors to follow in their ministries — was a work in progress that could be tweaked and discussed over the next year.

"It is important not to over-analyze," Lombardi said. "The fathers of the synod never saw themselves as reaching a final conclusion with this document."

The dramatic shift in tone comes after a week of hot debate over the more-accepting language among conservative and liberal groups alike.

American Cardinal Raymond Burke said the conciliatory language revealed last week was forced and did not represent the majority view, adding homsexuals were "intrinsically confused."

Burke, prefect of the Vatican's court on canon law, revealed Saturday he is being reassigned to a lower-profile role in the coming days, a move the Italian media attributed to his recent criticisms.

Even the Italian government got involved, with Minister of the Interior Angelino Alfano sending a notice to local prefects that registrations of same sex marriages would be voided. The move came after several officials — including those in Rome, Milan, and Bologna — started preparing to register marriages between gay couples.

Italian activists, meanwhile, are disappointed in the outcome of the synod, but said they still hold out hope.

"It's disappointing that the recognition of gays in the church took two steps forward and one step back," said Nello Salvai, a local activist. "But it's clearly a different church under Pope Francis and I have faith it will move forward."

Rank-and-file Catholics who expressed surprise when the mid-synod document was released took the change in stride.

"It doesn't seem realistic to change the direction of the church in a two-week meeting," said Francesco Napolitano, a 39-year-old bus driver who was in St. Peter's Square on Saturday evening. "For good or bad, the church is slow to change."

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Re: Gays still not welcome in the Catholic church
Posted by: NippleChuck ()
Date: October 18, 2014 05:10PM

Catholics = child molesters.

And they are worried about two guys kissing. Fucktard hypocrits.

Nip

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Re: Gays still not welcome in the Catholic church
Posted by: eesh ()
Date: October 18, 2014 05:33PM

How did this rift happen in the first place? I'm guessing the new Pope is the one trying to be more accepting of homosexuals.

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Re: Gays still not welcome in the Catholic church
Posted by: Numbers ()
Date: October 18, 2014 06:04PM

eesh Wrote:
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> How did this rift happen in the first place? I'm
> guessing the new Pope is the one trying to be more
> accepting of homosexuals.


Yes, and now there is a revolution by the remaining hard core Catholics about to unfold.
Look for the new pope to suddenly fall ill or be assasinated.

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Re: Gays still not welcome in the Catholic church
Posted by: Apathist ()
Date: October 18, 2014 06:07PM

I'm not into religion and don't give a shit one way or the other, but if you are into a religion and they say being gay is wrong, shouldn't either accept it or admit you don't believe their teachings and move on to another religion? I mean, does God change his mind based on what's popular today?

Silly nonsense anyway.

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Re: Gays still not welcome in the Catholic church
Posted by: Reality Is ()
Date: October 18, 2014 08:28PM

Damn faggots shouldn't be welcome anywhere. We need to go back to the time when beating the shit out of them was more socially acceptable. Smack them back into the closet and fewer kids will make the choice to be queer.

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Re: Gays still not welcome in the Catholic church
Posted by: Back-N-Tyme ()
Date: October 18, 2014 09:07PM

Bah the priests don't want competition from the congregation over the altar boys!

Fuck that Cult!

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Re: Gays still not welcome in the Catholic church
Posted by: eesh ()
Date: October 18, 2014 09:34PM

Reality Is Wrote:
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> Damn faggots shouldn't be welcome anywhere. We
> need to go back to the time when beating the shit
> out of them was more socially acceptable. Smack
> them back into the closet and fewer kids will make
> the choice to be queer.






This site isn't Stormfront.

Blessed are the murderous.

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Re: Gays still not welcome in the Catholic church
Posted by: All Knowing All Seeing Gawd ()
Date: October 18, 2014 09:43PM

Obviously you people just don't understand how important an issue this is.
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Re: Gays still not welcome in the Catholic church
Posted by: eesh ()
Date: October 18, 2014 10:28PM

All Knowing All Seeing Gawd Wrote:
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> Obviously you people just don't understand how
> important an issue this is.




Just remember that graphic as you're freaking out when your internet connection goes out.

Blessed are the murderous.

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Re: Gays still not welcome in the Catholic church
Posted by: Fox News ()
Date: October 20, 2014 12:39AM

The Catholic will become more accepting overtime. Pope Francis really wants everyone to be accepted into the church. He just has to convince the old-timers and keep cleaning out corrupt clergy.

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Re: Gays still not welcome in the Catholic church
Posted by: John 3:69:666 Hut-Hut-HIKE! ()
Date: October 20, 2014 07:56AM

Catholicism is scientifically and historically irrelevant in the universal space-time continuum. The evolution of subspecies of microscopic molecular organisms is more important. The Bacillus for example, has far more historical and scientific importance than all of Catholicism - and that's just within the context of human history, which, in the universal space-time continuum isn't really all that important.

Since inception, the Catholic Church has exponentially more blood, torture, wanton murder, land theft, beheadings, genocide, forced child marriages, pedophilia, homosexuality, sexual deviancy, cultural and religious intolerance, etc. on it's hands than ISIS, Al Qaeda, the Taliban, and all other similarly whacked out religious cults combined.

The Catholic Clergy is really just another group of really weird guys in robes with a religious OCD condition that think they are better than everyone else. Might as well be a group of opinionated Bedouin sheep herders hating on goat herders -or- some group of young boys dressed up as Batman for Halloween expressing their disdain the kids dressed up like Spider Man.

Are we all supposed to derive some hope from the possibility that these anal retentive holier than thou weirdos in charge of the Catholic Religious Cult might, just might, eventually abandon their ignorant, hateful, bigoted, self-righteous indignation and discrimination against fudge packers and carpet munchers?

Who really fucking cares?

Why give these attention whores the time of day?

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Re: Gays still not welcome in the Catholic church
Posted by: in agreement ()
Date: October 20, 2014 08:52AM

Numbers Wrote:
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> eesh Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > How did this rift happen in the first place?
> I'm
> > guessing the new Pope is the one trying to be
> more
> > accepting of homosexuals.
>
>
> Yes, and now there is a revolution by the
> remaining hard core Catholics about to unfold.
> Look for the new pope to suddenly fall ill or be
> assasinated.


A housed divided can't stand

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Re: Gays still not welcome in the Catholic church
Posted by: Fox News ()
Date: October 20, 2014 09:20AM

in agreement Wrote:
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> Numbers Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > eesh Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > How did this rift happen in the first place?
> > I'm
> > > guessing the new Pope is the one trying to be
> > more
> > > accepting of homosexuals.
> >
> >
> > Yes, and now there is a revolution by the
> > remaining hard core Catholics about to unfold.
> > Look for the new pope to suddenly fall ill or
> be
> > assasinated.
>
>
> A housed divided can't stand


Have you ever heard of a split-level house?

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Re: Gays still not welcome in the Catholic church
Posted by: Numbers ()
Date: October 20, 2014 10:09AM

This may be the last stand for Catholicism. They are actually imploding!

If the hard core purists win out, the catholics will slowly and surely drift into obscurity.

If the new, kindler and gentler movement wins out, they become as watered down as all the other christian sects and will less slowly drift into obscurity.

If neither side wins, the message gets even more contradictory and confusing and it the whole of Catholicism goes bankrupt and dies very quickly.

The best thing for Catholics to do, is to bag all of it, stop giving them money and see it for what it is, a scam.
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Re: Gays still not welcome in the Catholic church
Posted by: Fox News ()
Date: October 20, 2014 10:37AM

Numbers Wrote:
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> This may be the last stand for Catholicism. They
> are actually imploding!
>
> If the hard core purists win out, the catholics
> will slowly and surely drift into obscurity.
>
> If the new, kindler and gentler movement wins out,
> they become as watered down as all the other
> christian sects and will less slowly drift into
> obscurity.
>
> If neither side wins, the message gets even more
> contradictory and confusing and it the whole of
> Catholicism goes bankrupt and dies very quickly.
>
> The best thing for Catholics to do, is to bag all
> of it, stop giving them money and see it for what
> it is, a scam.

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>file.php?40,file=160842,filename=0165210


FYI: St. Tebow is a Protestant not a Catholic (big difference there).

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