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Does this look like an accident?
Posted by: Screwed-Tire ()
Date: September 15, 2014 12:37PM

I can't figure out if this is accidental or vandalism.
I assume it's a tire killer.
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Re: Does this look like an accident?
Posted by: bloody blisters ()
Date: September 15, 2014 12:54PM

if it was higher up on the sidewall i would say it was intentional. but in all honesty, who is going to take the time to screw a screw into a tire when a knife or ice pick would have the same effect in a fraction of the time?!

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Re: Does this look like an accident?
Posted by: eesh ()
Date: September 15, 2014 12:59PM

It's just something you picked up on the road; are you near a construction site?

Anyway, it's a killer. No way that can be plugged.

Blessed are the murderous.

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Re: Does this look like an accident?
Posted by: dyc4X ()
Date: September 15, 2014 09:22PM

eesh Wrote:
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> It's just something you picked up on the road; are
> you near a construction site?
>
> Anyway, it's a killer. No way that can be plugged.

the "quick, theiving shop" answer is "ruined, must replace - requrired by law!"

get tire plug and way to inflate tire. take out. does it leak? plug if so.

uh ok take it out and probe see if it is not just in tread meat.

it does not appear to be in sidewall but can't see angle. it doesn't appear to be in belt tread. you can look online and see "limits". it is not allowed to penetrate in sidewall (thicker than it looks) and can't be in teh radial belt support right where it meets (cause it might aid belt separation if fringed by screw hole at the edge). how many plies, too. if you can't determine it by poking and thinking: get help?

question is: if it isn't in sidewall, and isn't leaking, can it cause tread separation ? i'd say no.

so it really depends. and yes that happens all the time they go in right like that frequently off road. done tons of them.

sometimes seedy tire shops will spread nails on highway or around town to sell tires. that a "confirmed". and no: construction companies aren't allowed to leave them on road and should pay if you know who did.

most likely: you left it on your sidewalk 1 mo ago and later kicked it into your driveway and backed over it - you did it dummy!

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Re: Does this look like an accident?
Posted by: N6PTu ()
Date: September 15, 2014 09:23PM

it definitely enters in tread - not sidewall. how long is screw and etc.

can't see.

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Re: Does this look like an accident?
Posted by: PJukm ()
Date: September 15, 2014 09:27PM

at low temperatures (around town) a (sidewall / edge of ply) puncture there might never develope to a bump.

but what would hold in plug ? say plug holds. will ply separation happen and wouldn't you notice? or wouldn't plug come out slow if at all?


on HIGHWAY tire heats up that is when you have a tire blowout problem which can be deadly



that is why the concern

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Re: Does this look like an accident?
Posted by: Attempt... ()
Date: September 15, 2014 09:36PM

I tried but failed to find the issue.

Maybe next time you could try to go a touch bit bigger with the picture.

Thank you

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Re: Does this look like an accident?
Posted by: nvwwx ()
Date: September 15, 2014 09:52PM

Sometimes you get lucky and it's a broken screw so it's only about 1/2" long.

Most shops will not patch that for you since it is too close to the sidewall.

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Re: Does this look like an accident?
Posted by: libs hate America. ()
Date: September 15, 2014 09:58PM

Are you all whiney little bitch libs? Buy a plug kit for a couple bucks and fix it. Move on and quit being a faggit.

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Re: Does this look like an accident?
Posted by: Durf362624361725 ()
Date: September 15, 2014 10:02PM

Screwed-Tire Wrote:
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> I can't figure out if this is accidental or
> vandalism.
> I assume it's a tire killer.

Looks like a garden variety dry wall screw, probably fell off a hauler. May not be a tire killer.

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Re: Does this look like an accident?
Posted by: Hector ()
Date: September 15, 2014 10:19PM

Senor bring to mi shop. I sell replasemento. Cinquenta dolar.

gracias Hector

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Re: Does this look like an accident?
Posted by: CH3NO2 ()
Date: September 15, 2014 10:22PM

Looks like a brand new tire. I'd put a plug in it and roll on.

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Re: Does this look like an accident?
Posted by: MrMephisto ()
Date: September 15, 2014 10:58PM

I've picked up screws like that before. It can be patched, I've been told, but I don't know how much I trust patches.

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Re: Does this look like an accident?
Posted by: Gerrymanderer2 ()
Date: September 16, 2014 12:07AM

It is accidental and not a tire killer. Buy a five dollar tire plug kit with tools, pull it out with pliers and plug it, takes three minutes.

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Re: Does this look like an accident?
Posted by: eesh ()
Date: September 16, 2014 12:17AM

Gerry the tire technician.



Seriously, go to a Goodyear Gemeni and ask them about it. They give guarantees on their plugs, and the plugs they use are far superior to what you find in auto stores.

Blessed are the murderous.

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Re: Does this look like an accident?
Posted by: Gerrymanderer2 ()
Date: September 16, 2014 12:25AM

Lol at superior plug. Its rubber incased in adhesive designed to seal the hole permenantly. Its not rocket science it comes with the tools you need. Just use your own pliers to remove the nail. Widen and smooth the hole with the needle file tool. Then use the insertion tool to insert the plug, remove the plug tool with a quick jerk and the plug will remain in the tire. The cut the excess off. I've used the same kit for four seperate tires over years. Perfect repairs.



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Re: Does this look like an accident?
Posted by: Butt plugger ()
Date: September 16, 2014 12:25AM

eesh Wrote:
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> Gerry the tire technician.
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>
>
> Seriously, go to a Goodyear Gemeni and ask them
> about it. They give guarantees on their plugs, and
> the plugs they use are far superior to what you
> find in auto stores.


Just plug it yourself, most shops will tell you to get a new tire to cover their ass and make more money.

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Re: Does this look like an accident?
Posted by: eesh ()
Date: September 16, 2014 12:28AM

Goodyear Gemeni. I'm telling you, you won't regret it.

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Re: Does this look like an accident?
Posted by: Gerrymanderer2 ()
Date: September 16, 2014 12:30AM

Be a man, fix it yourself!

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Re: Does this look like an accident?
Posted by: eesh ()
Date: September 16, 2014 12:35AM

Gerrymanderer2 Wrote:
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> Widen and smooth the hole with the needle file
> tool. Then use the insertion tool to insert the
> plug, remove the plug tool with a quick jerk and
> the plug will remain in the tire.




Gerry, will you demonstrate this with me?

Blessed are the murderous.

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Re: Does this look like an accident?
Posted by: Gerrymanderer2 ()
Date: September 16, 2014 12:39AM

You have to take the tire off or drive it to the service center with a nail in it with eesh's solution. Risking bodily harm or unnecessary work and damage to the vehicle jacked up.

All for the misguided comfort of having a so called technician execute the task. Its a hole, fill it.

You were literally biologically and fundamentally designed and programmed to do this very thing. Stick it in the damn hole.

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Re: Does this look like an accident?
Posted by: Gerrymanderer2 ()
Date: September 16, 2014 12:41AM

The problem with eesh is he would rather watch someone else stick his hole. Do not let another man stick your hole.

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Re: Does this look like an accident?
Posted by: eesh ()
Date: September 16, 2014 12:46AM

Your plug is too small, Gerry.

Blessed are the murderous.

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Re: Does this look like an accident?
Posted by: Eesh is a faggot ()
Date: September 16, 2014 12:50AM

Eesh couldn't change the oil on his POS 4 banger if his life depended on it. Tity baby probably never turned a wrench in his life.

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Re: Does this look like an accident?
Posted by: eesh ()
Date: September 16, 2014 12:53AM

I don't do manual labor, it's why I pay a guy to cut the grass.

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Re: Does this look like an accident?
Posted by: truf ()
Date: September 16, 2014 01:44AM

eesh Wrote:
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> I don't do manual labor, it's why I'm a fat ass.

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Re: Does this look like an accident?
Posted by: CH3NO2 ()
Date: September 16, 2014 11:54AM

A shop will tell you this cannot be repaired for 2 reasons.

#1- They would rather sell you a new tire

#2- They claim they cannot repair it because it would expose them to liability should the tire fail and you get killed.

I had a brand new 295/35/18 tire on a Vette ($395.00) get a screw right where the tread meets the sidewall. This tire had maybe 500 miles on it. No shop would repair it because it was a "Z" rated tire (high speed). I put a plug in it and drove on it for a couple years.

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Re: Does this look like an accident?
Posted by: ddtMK ()
Date: September 16, 2014 03:29PM

since someone posted a tire plug photo i'll restate

1) screw may not even penetrate, check first, probe hole to make sure

2) a plug in sidewall (they are beefy but) or in belts where edge is, problem is (a) nothign to hold in plug (b) if "too close to edge" ply can separate and let go of plug

PROBLEM IS at highway temperature and pressure it won't leak or come out - it may blow out and cause your car to do god knows what

PROBLEM IS DEATH if you plug in or near sidewall

(depends on angle of screw - if a good enough angle misses the edge)

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