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very simply: if corporations are people, then people must be corporations
Posted by:
Think Outside The FOX
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Date: July 27, 2014 06:36PM
very simply: if corporations are people, then people must be corporations. Which means people should be able to avail themselves of all the juicy corporate-welfare tax breaks given to corporate legal entities.
It's pretty easy to follow this train of thought down some very interesting tracks. We'd start by allowing individuals to only be taxed on their profits instead of their income, personally.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/catherine-rampell-people-should-claim-the-same-rights-as-companies/2014/07/24/460aea0c-135b-11e4-9285-4243a40ddc97_story.html
It's pretty easy to follow this train of thought down some very interesting tracks. We'd start by allowing individuals to only be taxed on their profits instead of their income, personally.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/catherine-rampell-people-should-claim-the-same-rights-as-companies/2014/07/24/460aea0c-135b-11e4-9285-4243a40ddc97_story.html
Re: very simply: if corporations are people, then people must be corporations
Posted by:
Think Outside The FOX
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Date: July 27, 2014 06:38PM
THIS IS FUCKING BRILLIANT!
According to Martin Sullivan, the chief economist at Tax Analysts, if individuals were treated like corporations, I could set up an affiliate called “Catherine Rampell Bermuda,” have it pay my college tuition and then declare that the affiliate owns the resulting degree. I could then tell the IRS that everything I earn above the average high school grad’s wage should be recorded as income in Bermuda, since it’s all derived from a Bermuda-based asset. Until I decide to repatriate those diploma-derived earnings, I’ve built myself a tax-free IRA.
According to Martin Sullivan, the chief economist at Tax Analysts, if individuals were treated like corporations, I could set up an affiliate called “Catherine Rampell Bermuda,” have it pay my college tuition and then declare that the affiliate owns the resulting degree. I could then tell the IRS that everything I earn above the average high school grad’s wage should be recorded as income in Bermuda, since it’s all derived from a Bermuda-based asset. Until I decide to repatriate those diploma-derived earnings, I’ve built myself a tax-free IRA.
Re: very simply: if corporations are people, then people must be corporations
Posted by:
Intredasting
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Date: July 27, 2014 07:36PM
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Re: very simply: if corporations are people, then people must be corporations
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Date: July 27, 2014 07:38PM
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Re: very simply: if corporations are people, then people must be corporations
Posted by:
Emb3K
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Date: July 27, 2014 07:39PM
Nothing has ever prevented you from forming a corporation.
Re: very simply: if corporations are people, then people must be corporations
Posted by:
Truth Teller
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Date: July 27, 2014 07:43PM
No, it works one way and not the other. Corporations are afforded similar rights to people.
Educate yourself: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corporate_personhood
Educate yourself: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corporate_personhood
Re: very simply: if corporations are people, then people must be corporations
Posted by:
Sucking Bagabus
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Date: July 27, 2014 08:30PM
The very term means "body-like," as in a person's body. The idea is that a corporation has a legal presence, just like that of a person. In a contract it will sometimes refer to "persons, natural and legal," meaning a person or corporation, respectively. So while the rest of the moronic world thinks it's so stupid that corporations are people, the fact is that, legally speaking, it's been like that for hundreds of years.
Re: very simply: if corporations are people, then people must be corporations
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People Person
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Date: July 27, 2014 08:59PM
If corporations are people and people can own corporations either outright or as shareholders, then isn't this the same as slavery if people are owning people?
Re: very simply: if corporations are people, then people must be corporations
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People can be considered corps.
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Date: July 27, 2014 09:30PM
OP:
Clearly you have no experience with real life. You can indeed set yourself up as a corporation. Many sole proprietor freelance contractors do just that so they can keep their corporation's earnings, tax liabilities, and business liabilities separate from their personal finances.
Before mouthing off with what you think is some clever comment you should check your facts. Dumbass.
Clearly you have no experience with real life. You can indeed set yourself up as a corporation. Many sole proprietor freelance contractors do just that so they can keep their corporation's earnings, tax liabilities, and business liabilities separate from their personal finances.
Before mouthing off with what you think is some clever comment you should check your facts. Dumbass.
Re: very simply: if corporations are people, then people must be corporations
Posted by:
mXj7U
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Date: July 27, 2014 10:28PM
ORIGINAL - Please Move The Deer Crossing Sign. HILARIOUS ...
http://www.google.com/url?q=http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DRFCrJleggrI&sa=U&ei=5rTVU8yvMcHcoATEzYHIDg&ved=0CBUQtwIwAA&usg=AFQjCNHSM9uPYrtA090CHOqQiSTezLC-Fg
http://www.google.com/url?q=http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DRFCrJleggrI&sa=U&ei=5rTVU8yvMcHcoATEzYHIDg&ved=0CBUQtwIwAA&usg=AFQjCNHSM9uPYrtA090CHOqQiSTezLC-Fg
Re: very simply: if corporations are people, then people must be corporations
Posted by:
hWjnH
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Date: July 27, 2014 10:32PM
oh in the 80's maybe 1/2 the people in fairfax smoked pot on weekends never at work (except loosers even partiers didn't like). and they did good work pretty enthusiastic about work per say.
that doesn't mean you want managers and leaders doing it - someone has to tell the idiots why the deer crossing sign is there ...
that doesn't mean you want managers and leaders doing it - someone has to tell the idiots why the deer crossing sign is there ...
Re: very simply: if corporations are people, then people must be corporations
Posted by:
GoobGoobGoob
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Date: July 28, 2014 07:02AM
People Person Wrote:
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> If corporations are people and people can own
> corporations either outright or as shareholders,
> then isn't this the same as slavery if people are
> owning people?
Slavery is ownership of "human chattel," not corporate chattel.
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> If corporations are people and people can own
> corporations either outright or as shareholders,
> then isn't this the same as slavery if people are
> owning people?
Slavery is ownership of "human chattel," not corporate chattel.
Re: very simply: if corporations are people, then people must be corporations
Posted by:
Gomer Piles
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Date: July 28, 2014 07:24AM
Thanks for the legal analysis there, Matlock.
Re: very simply: if corporations are people, then people must be corporations
Posted by:
BelowMe.
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Date: July 28, 2014 07:50AM
We all know that life begins at Incorporation.
Slavery was the legal fiction that people are property, while Corporate Personhood is the legal fiction that property is a person.
Think of the millions of corporations that have died defending this country.
The founding fathers envisioned a Government that would regulate people to protect corporate rights and shield corporate political donations.
Bankruptcy is Big Government sponsored, and tax-payer funded, murder.
Corporate political donations are merely freedom of speech and freedom of religion.
When I get horny, I do a Corporate Booty Call and write it off.
Slavery was the legal fiction that people are property, while Corporate Personhood is the legal fiction that property is a person.
Think of the millions of corporations that have died defending this country.
The founding fathers envisioned a Government that would regulate people to protect corporate rights and shield corporate political donations.
Bankruptcy is Big Government sponsored, and tax-payer funded, murder.
Corporate political donations are merely freedom of speech and freedom of religion.
When I get horny, I do a Corporate Booty Call and write it off.
Re: very simply: if corporations are people, then people must be corporations
Posted by:
Think Outside The FOX
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Date: July 28, 2014 08:11AM
wow some people just dont get parody when they read it. This shit just shot right over your heads! how far is that stick up your ass? Maybe you should consult a doctor or the ER and think about having it removed.
Re: very simply: if corporations are people, then people must be corporations
Posted by:
wYGCE
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Date: July 28, 2014 09:08AM
"Coporate personhood"?
Does this mean you can't abort them four months in?
Does this mean you can't abort them four months in?
Re: very simply: if corporations are people, then people must be corporations
Posted by:
Think Outside The FOX
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Date: July 28, 2014 07:20PM
Rather than focus on the newly-fashionable tax-avoidance strategy of changing corporate nationality, it makes more sense to tax any global corporation on all income earned in the United States (with high penalties for shifting that income abroad), and no longer tax "American" corporations on revenues earned outside America. Most other nations already follow this principle. In other words, let's stop worrying about whether big global corporations are "American." We can't win that game. Focus instead on what we want global corporations of whatever nationality to do in America, and on how we can get them to do it.
Re: very simply: if corporations are people, then people must be corporations
Posted by:
Gerrymanderer2
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Date: July 28, 2014 08:04PM
I'm selling gerrymanderer2 stock at a hundred dollars a share. But if you buy now before I go public you can get 10 shares for 900 dollars.
Re: very simply: if corporations are people, then people must be corporations
Posted by:
Gerrymanderer2
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Date: July 28, 2014 08:06PM
If you do decide to wait until I go public. The stock symbol will be FCKU.
Re: very simply: if corporations are people, then people must be corporations
Posted by:
CorporateGerry2
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Date: July 28, 2014 10:25PM
Gerrymanderer2 Wrote:
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> If you do decide to wait until I go public. The
> stock symbol will be FCKU.
Stick it posts about hating Jews and sucking Obama's half white dick. Humor is not your forte.
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> If you do decide to wait until I go public. The
> stock symbol will be FCKU.
Stick it posts about hating Jews and sucking Obama's half white dick. Humor is not your forte.
Re: very simply: if corporations are people, then people must be corporations
Posted by:
guilt by association
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Date: July 28, 2014 11:57PM
Didn't that pedo, Michael Gardner, work at Tax Analysts?