The Marine Corps' Top General Slams The Obama Administration Over Iraq

JUL. 17, 2014, 1:36 AM 9,381 32

It looks like Gen. James Amos may not get invited to any Obama administration reunions in the coming years.

In a talk at the Brookings Institution on Tuesday covered by Foreign Policy's Kate Brannen, the Commandant of the Marine Corps stepped front-and-center into the political debate over the chaos in Iraq, and he took aim at the White House.

“I have a hard time believing that had we been there [in Iraq], and worked with the government, and worked with parliament, and worked with the minister of defense, the minister of interior, I don't think we'd be in the same shape we're in today,” Amos said.

While he didn't explicitly call out Obama while talking about Iraq, it's certainly being interpreted that way. And it's rather unusual for an active-duty officer to say things that can be viewed as critical towards his or her boss.

Fiscal Times writes:

Perhaps Amos felt free to voice opinions on White House policy because he is set to retire this fall. Now, his comments are likely to influence the debate within the defense community about how to handle the myriad of crises going on around the world.

The last American troops left Iraq in 2011 as a result of an agreement negotiated by the Bush administration. But some have criticized Obama for not pushing harder to leave at least some U.S. military presence to remain in the country.

With little U.S. leadership and an Iraqi prime minister with sectarian tendencies, it took less than three years for the country to fall into chaos.

As militants continued their assault on major Iraqi cities in June, two former senior defense officials largely echoed Amos' comments but would only speak to Business Insider on condition of anonymity.

"What we're seeing now is exactly what we forecasted," a retired senior military officer told Business Insider in June.

On global engagement, Amos' remarks could be taken as both critical of the Obama administration — which has been called "risk-averse" — and others who have pushed for a more isolationist posture.

“We may think we're done with all of these nasty, thorny, tacky little things that are going on around the world," Amos said. "And I'd argue that if you're in that nation, it's not a tacky, little thing for you. We may think we're done with them, but they're not done with us."

The military needs to arrest Hussein Obama for treason.

libs hate America. Wrote:
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> The military needs to arrest Hussein Obama for
> treason.

Very stupid post. Are you in the military? Ever serve your country?

He is right, nice shot.

Police State Wrote:
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> libs hate America. Wrote:
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> > The military needs to arrest Hussein Obama for
> > treason.
>
> Very stupid post. Are you in the military? Ever
> serve your country?

You post as police state and say my post is stupid? You're a fucking idiot. Obama is as fascist as they come.
Yes I served in the Air force. I'm ashamed to tell people that with the mockery Panetta has made of the armed services. Obama is assassinating American children, attacking countries that pose no threat, tell congress he does not need congressional approval and only needs UN approval for such attacks, trades American killers for a deserter and calls him a hero. I guess being a traitor to the US is heroic to libs. He changed the rules of engagement so that warriors are easily murdered. He purposely puts our soldiers in harms way by not fully supporting them and limiting their numbers. Lies to America about Bin Laden but libs lap it up. Sure, most wanted man in the world is killed but there is no proof? No body, no murder. Plus, killing him would never have been the plan. It's a lie.
Do you need more?

Obama is a perfect example of what happens when you have no philosophy. It's sad seeing a country that was a world leader for the last 120 years become the country of leading from behind.

LOL That guy's career is over. As a member of the military, and even more so as a commissioned officer, he can't say anything contemptuous of an elected official.

Blessed are the murderous.

eesh Wrote:
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> LOL That guy's career is over. As a member of the
> military, and even more so as a commissioned
> officer, he can't say anything contemptuous of an
> elected official.


He's on his way out already. Retiring in a few months.

libs hate America. Wrote:
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> Police State Wrote:
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> -----
> > libs hate America. Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > The military needs to arrest Hussein Obama
> for
> > > treason.
> >
> > Very stupid post. Are you in the military? Ever
> > serve your country?
>
> You post as police state and say my post is
> stupid? You're a fucking idiot. Obama is as
> fascist as they come.
> Yes I served in the Air force. I'm ashamed to tell
> people that with the mockery Panetta has made of
> the armed services. Obama is assassinating
> American children, attacking countries that pose
> no threat, tell congress he does not need
> congressional approval and only needs UN approval
> for such attacks, trades American killers for a
> deserter and calls him a hero. I guess being a
> traitor to the US is heroic to libs. He changed
> the rules of engagement so that warriors are
> easily murdered. He purposely puts our soldiers in
> harms way by not fully supporting them and
> limiting their numbers. Lies to America about Bin
> Laden but libs lap it up. Sure, most wanted man in
> the world is killed but there is no proof? No
> body, no murder. Plus, killing him would never
> have been the plan. It's a lie.
> Do you need more?

You sold dope,rode a bike and played with others in a van. Mellow the fuck out or they will be coming to take you away in the white jacket.

He can't run for re-wlection. Fix your butt hurt.

> He can't run for re-wlection. Fix your butt hurt.

After the Dems take control in the coming elections they could just change the term limits for the President. Perhaps Barry could just issue an executive order.

Democrats aren't fascist Republicans beholden to 1 percent of the population looking to profit off of wars for the poor based on lies and deception.

They have no need for abolishing term limits. Only a George Bush/ Dick Cheney type of Republican administration have the potential for an act like that.

If we didn't have guns Dick Cheney would have been our dictator today.

Gerrymanderer2 Wrote:
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> Democrats aren't fascist Republicans beholden to 1
> percent of the population looking to profit off of
> wars for the poor based on lies and deception.
>
> They have no need for abolishing term limits.
> Only a George Bush/ Dick Cheney type of Republican
> administration have the potential for an act like
> that.
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Gerrymanderer2 Wrote:
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> If we didn't have guns Dick Cheney would have been
> our dictator today.

To early to be drinking,Gerry. By the way,where's Stabitha?

Gerrymanderer2 Wrote:
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> Democrats aren't fascist Republicans beholden to 1
> percent of the population looking to profit off of
> wars for the poor based on lies and deception.
>
> They have no need for abolishing term limits.
> Only a George Bush/ Dick Cheney type of Republican
> administration have the potential for an act like
> that.


Oh, you mean like this.
Obama took the Presidential Oath, swearing to preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States” but has:

Used Executive Privilege in regards to Fast & Furious gun running scandal. When Government misconduct is the concern Executive privilege is negated.
23 Executive Orders on gun control – infringement of the 2nd Amendment
Executive Order bypassing Congress on immigration – Article 1 Section 1, ALL Legislative power held by Congress
NDAA – Section 1021. Due process Rights negated. Violation of 3rd, 4th, 5th, 6th, and 7th Amendments.
Executive Order 13603 NDRP – Government can seize anything
Executive Order 13524 – Gives INTERPOL jurisdiction on American soil beyond law enforcement agencies, including the FBI.
Executive Order 13636 Infrastructure Cybersecurity – Bypassing Congress Article 1 Section 1, ALL Legislative power held by Congress
Signed into law the establishment of NO Free Speech zones – noncompliance is a felony. Violation of 1st Amendment.
Attempt to tax political contributions – 1st Amendment
DOMA Law – Obama directed DOJ to ignore the Constitution and separation of powers and not enforce the law.
Dodd-Frank – Due process and separation of powers. Consumer Financial Protection Bureau writing and interpreting law. Article. I. Section. 1
Drone strikes on American Citizens – 5th Amendment Due process Rights negated
Bypassed Congress and gave EPA power to advance Cap-n-Trade
Attempt for Graphic tobacco warnings (under appeal) – 1st Amendment
Four Exec. appointments – Senate was NOT in recess (Court has ruled unconstitutional yet the appointees still remain)
Appointing agency czars without the “advice and consent of the Senate.” Violation of Article II, Section 2
Obama took Chairmanship of UN Security Council – Violation of Section 9.
Obamacare (ACA) mandate – SCOTUS had to make it a tax because there is no Constitutional authority for Congress to force Americans to engage in commerce.
Contraceptive, abortifacients mandate violation of First Ammendment
Healthcare waivers – No president has dispensing powers
Refuses to acknowledge state’s 10th Amendment rights to nullify Obamacare
Going after states (AZ lawsuit) for upholding Federal law (immigration) -10th Amendment.
Chrysler Bailout -TARP – violated creditors rights and bankruptcy law, as well as Takings and Due Process Clauses – 5th Amendment (G.W. Bush also illegally used TARP funds for bailouts)
The Independent Payment Advisory Board (appointees by the president). Any decisions by IPAB will instantly become law starting in 2014 – Separation of Powers, Article 1 Section 1.
Congress did not approve Obama’s war in Libya. Article I, Section 8, First illegal war U.S. has engaged in. Impeachable under Article II, Section 4.
Obama falsely claims UN can usurp Congressional war powers.
Obama has acted outside the constitutional power given him – this in itself is unconstitutional.
With the approval of Obama, the NSA and the FBI are tapping directly into the servers of 9 internet companies to gain access to emails, video/audio, photos, documents, etc. This program is code named PRISM. NSA also collecting data on all phone calls in U.S. – Violation of 4th Amendment.
Plans to sign U.N. Firearms treaty – 2nd Amendment.
The Senate/Obama immigration bill (approved by both) raises revenue – Section 7. All Bills for raising Revenue shall originate in the House of Representatives;
Obama refuses to uphold the Business Mandate Law (ACA) for a year. President does not have that authority – Article. I. Section. 1. All legislative Powers herein granted shall be vested in a Congress of the United States. The president ”shall take care that the laws be faithfully executed” -Article II, Section 3.

libs hate America. Wrote:
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> Gerrymanderer2 Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Democrats aren't fascist Republicans beholden to
> 1
> > percent of the population looking to profit off
> of
> > wars for the poor based on lies and deception.
>
> >
> > They have no need for abolishing term limits.
> > Only a George Bush/ Dick Cheney type of
> Republican
> > administration have the potential for an act
> like
> > that.
>
>
> Oh, you mean like this.
> Obama took the Presidential Oath, swearing to
> preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of
> the United States” but has:
>
> Used Executive Privilege in regards to Fast &
> Furious gun running scandal. When Government
> misconduct is the concern Executive privilege is
> negated.
> 23 Executive Orders on gun control –
> infringement of the 2nd Amendment
> Executive Order bypassing Congress on
> immigration – Article 1 Section 1, ALL
> Legislative power held by Congress
> NDAA – Section 1021. Due process Rights
> negated. Violation of 3rd, 4th, 5th, 6th, and 7th
> Amendments.
> Executive Order 13603 NDRP – Government can
> seize anything
> Executive Order 13524 – Gives INTERPOL
> jurisdiction on American soil beyond law
> enforcement agencies, including the FBI.
> Executive Order 13636 Infrastructure
> Cybersecurity – Bypassing Congress Article 1
> Section 1, ALL Legislative power held by Congress
> Signed into law the establishment of NO Free
> Speech zones – noncompliance is a felony.
> Violation of 1st Amendment.
> Attempt to tax political contributions – 1st
> Amendment
> DOMA Law – Obama directed DOJ to ignore the
> Constitution and separation of powers and not
> enforce the law.
> Dodd-Frank – Due process and separation of
> powers. Consumer Financial Protection Bureau
> writing and interpreting law. Article. I. Section.
> 1
> Drone strikes on American Citizens – 5th
> Amendment Due process Rights negated
> Bypassed Congress and gave EPA power to
> advance Cap-n-Trade
> Attempt for Graphic tobacco warnings (under
> appeal) – 1st Amendment
> Four Exec. appointments – Senate was NOT in
> recess (Court has ruled unconstitutional yet the
> appointees still remain)
> Appointing agency czars without the “advice
> and consent of the Senate.” Violation of
> Article II, Section 2
> Obama took Chairmanship of UN Security Council
> – Violation of Section 9.
> Obamacare (ACA) mandate – SCOTUS had to make
> it a tax because there is no Constitutional
> authority for Congress to force Americans to
> engage in commerce.
> Contraceptive, abortifacients mandate
> violation of First Ammendment
> Healthcare waivers – No president has
> dispensing powers
> Refuses to acknowledge state’s 10th
> Amendment rights to nullify Obamacare
> Going after states (AZ lawsuit) for upholding
> Federal law (immigration) -10th Amendment.
> Chrysler Bailout -TARP – violated creditors
> rights and bankruptcy law, as well as Takings and
> Due Process Clauses – 5th Amendment (G.W. Bush
> also illegally used TARP funds for bailouts)
> The Independent Payment Advisory Board
> (appointees by the president). Any decisions by
> IPAB will instantly become law starting in 2014
> – Separation of Powers, Article 1 Section 1.
> Congress did not approve Obama’s war in
> Libya. Article I, Section 8, First illegal war
> U.S. has engaged in. Impeachable under Article II,
> Section 4.
> Obama falsely claims UN can usurp
> Congressional war powers.
> Obama has acted outside the constitutional
> power given him – this in itself is
> unconstitutional.
> With the approval of Obama, the NSA and the
> FBI are tapping directly into the servers of 9
> internet companies to gain access to emails,
> video/audio, photos, documents, etc. This program
> is code named PRISM. NSA also collecting data on
> all phone calls in U.S. – Violation of 4th
> Amendment.
> Plans to sign U.N. Firearms treaty – 2nd
> Amendment.
> The Senate/Obama immigration bill (approved by
> both) raises revenue – Section 7. All Bills for
> raising Revenue shall originate in the House of
> Representatives;
> Obama refuses to uphold the Business Mandate
> Law (ACA) for a year. President does not have
> that authority – Article. I. Section. 1. All
> legislative Powers herein granted shall be vested
> in a Congress of the United States. The president
> ”shall take care that the laws be faithfully
> executed” -Article II, Section 3.

What the fuck are you smoking? Quit being a conservative slut and grow a set.

I like how this "professional" armchairs how we should of stayed.
How long? Do what? Help which side?
The Marines are masters of war after that they are horrible Policemen.
STFU sir and thank you for your service.

Henro Wrote:
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> I like how this "professional" armchairs how we
> should of stayed.
> How long? Do what? Help which side?
> The Marines are masters of war after that they are
> horrible Policemen.
> STFU sir and thank you for your service.

What this guy says.

Fuckin pukes are stingy when it comes to health care but open ended when it comes to military occupations for Israel.

Gerrymanderer2 Wrote:
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> Fuckin pukes are stingy when it comes to health
> care but open ended when it comes to military
> occupations for Israel.


Wait, what? It was the democrats that cut a billion dollars out of the bill to help the border crisis so that the democrats could fund Israels iron dome.

Remain to be clueless.

libs hate America. Wrote:
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> Gerrymanderer2 Wrote:
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> > Fuckin pukes are stingy when it comes to health
> > care but open ended when it comes to military
> > occupations for Israel.
>
>
> Wait, what? It was the democrats that cut a
> billion dollars out of the bill to help the border
> crisis so that the democrats could fund Israels
> iron dome.
>
> Remain to be clueless.

Boom

Henro Wrote:
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> I like how this "professional" armchairs how we
> should of stayed.
> How long? Do what? Help which side?
> The Marines are masters of war after that they are
> horrible Policemen.
> STFU sir and thank you for your service.

Simple answers to simple questions:

How long? Longer than we did or until its done.
Do what? Support the rebuilding of the nation's security forces.
Help which side? The democratically elected side.

"...they are horrible Policemen."
Proof please, if none then you're just another armchair libby (more like a computer-chair libby) slinging unfounded insults.



"...thank you for your service." I get the sarcasm.

libs hate America. Wrote:
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> Executive Order bypassing Congress on
> immigration – Article 1 Section 1, ALL
> Legislative power held by Congress

All executive orders are unconstitutional, regardless of president. You can't castigate Obama for doing it when every single one ever is illegla.

> Executive Order 13603 NDRP – Government can
> seize anything
> Executive Order 13524 – Gives INTERPOL
> jurisdiction on American soil beyond law
> enforcement agencies, including the FBI.

INTERPOL doesn't have the power to arrest anyone. And 13603 refers to national defense, and most people would agree that the government can seize things in times of national need.


> Signed into law the establishment of NO Free
> Speech zones – noncompliance is a felony.
> Violation of 1st Amendment.

Evidence?

> Attempt to tax political contributions – 1st
> Amendment

Not illegal. You can claim that political contributions represent income.

> DOMA Law – Obama directed DOJ to ignore the
> Constitution and separation of powers and not
> enforce the law.

The President does execute the laws. He told the DoJ that he wasn't going to waste resources defending the law. There's a difference between not enforcing and not defending.

> Dodd-Frank – Due process and separation of
> powers. Consumer Financial Protection Bureau
> writing and interpreting law. Article. I. Section.
> 1

Dodd-Frank is legal, and either way, that wasn't an executive order. Sorry that you want banks and Wall Street to run all over people.

> Drone strikes on American Citizens – 5th
> Amendment Due process Rights negated
> Bypassed Congress and gave EPA power to
> advance Cap-n-Trade
> Attempt for Graphic tobacco warnings (under
> appeal) – 1st Amendment

The drone strikes are ambiguous, because you can make a case that the people targeted are in rebellion against the United States, which eliminates the right to due process. Graphic tobacco warnings are such a horrible thing. How dare people know the health effects of smoking!

> Obama took Chairmanship of UN Security Council
> – Violation of Section 9.
> Obamacare (ACA) mandate – SCOTUS had to make
> it a tax because there is no Constitutional
> authority for Congress to force Americans to
> engage in commerce.

Uh, Congress shall regulate all interstate commerce. Healthcare counts as interstate commerce, so it's covered. As for the UN, who cares?

> Refuses to acknowledge state’s 10th
> Amendment rights to nullify Obamacare

States CANNOT nullify federal laws. The federal law is the law of the land. We fought the Civil War to determine this.

> Congress did not approve Obama’s war in
> Libya. Article I, Section 8, First illegal war
> U.S. has engaged in. Impeachable under Article II,
> Section 4.

War Powers Resolution. Bush invoked it, Clinton invoked it, etc., etc.

What our military needs is more gays and Muslims.

OCamader
How long? Longer than we did or until its done.
Do what? Support the rebuilding of the nation's security forces.
Help which side? The democratically elected side.

You show your age with this son.
We withdrew under an agreement with the democratically elected side signed by GWB.
It could take 100 years and 100 trillion dollars to help rebuild their security look what a great job this general did. "good job" thats sarcasm.

I have no disrespect for the general he has his opinion and I can respect it I don't agree so what.

Now I don't need facts to support the fact that a 18-24 year old Marine has the skill set to promote democracy and nation building on a street corner with a M4.


OOh one last thing




GO and fuck yourself.

Henro Wrote:
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> OCamader
> How long? Longer than we did or until its done.
> Do what? Support the rebuilding of the nation's
> security forces.
> Help which side? The democratically elected side.
>
>
> You show your age with this son.
> We withdrew under an agreement with the
> democratically elected side signed by GWB.
> It could take 100 years and 100 trillion dollars
> to help rebuild their security look what a great
> job this general did. "good job" thats sarcasm.
>
> I have no disrespect for the general he has his
> opinion and I can respect it I don't agree so
> what.
>
> Now I don't need facts to support the fact that a
> 18-24 year old Marine has the skill set to promote
> democracy and nation building on a street corner
> with a M4.
>
>
> OOh one last thing
>
>
>
>
> GO and fuck yourself.

OBama pulled out early and squirted all over the innocent people of Iraq who are now left with nothing but a face full of fear.

And I'd rather deal with the 18-24 year old Marine then any ISIS member.

"Now I don't need facts" truer words have never been posted.


Hope for Change

feed the libbys


OOh one last thing

Thanks for the meaningful suggestion.

Obama blew that one, he made a ridiculous promise and felt obligated to go with it even though his better judgment and advisors advised otherwise, we know that. That happens and we all know it now, regrettable. The thing is how are we and the President going deal with it; and help the people Obama left carrying the can back there. Lets stop casting aspersions and fix it best we can.

"Now I don't need facts" truer words have never been posted.

OBama pulled out early and squirted all over the innocent people of Iraq who are now left with nothing but a face full of fear.

You need some facts with this one.
Faces full of fear you should write poetry thats your true calling not pol/econ
leave that for the grown ups.

haha
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Henro Wrote:
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> "Now I don't need facts" truer words have never
> been posted.
>
> OBama pulled out early and squirted all over the
> innocent people of Iraq who are now left with
> nothing but a face full of fear.
>
> You need some facts with this one.
> Faces full of fear you should write poetry thats
> your true calling not pol/econ
> leave that for the grown ups.

Well put.



feed the libbys

Hope for Change

It's pronounced "core" Barry Wrote:
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> ...[Amos] didn't explicitly call out Obama while
> talking about Iraq...

Conserva-tards!

LoLz!

You can talk war from the comfort of your basement all you want. But it's a little different from the movies you watch. Iraq or any other country has to learn how to defend themselves. Now clean your AK-47 and go shoot a few paper targets. They don't shoot back

Conserva-tards! Wrote:
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> It's pronounced "core" Barry Wrote:
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> > ...[Amos] didn't explicitly call out
> Obama while
> > talking about Iraq...
>
> Conserva-tards!
>
> LoLz!


He didn't have to.