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HIGH TECH REVIEW: cpu who Big Tech are slaves to, the "ecosystem"
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high tech review
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Date: September 25, 2020 04:23PM
Most motherboards and cpu are now (recently) made in china - and china has recently over-taken the whole home computer market (phone + tablet + light laptop ALL CHINA CPU in 2021). THANKS OBAMA.
CPU MAKING TECHNOLOGY:
* youtube has some interesting video on how cpu are made. they are using liquid plastic hit with light and ending up with wires 1 micron wide. nanometer tech chips. it's not interesting they can use imagery and etch copper really - what amazing moreso is the result "works at high speed and low power and doesn't degrade with use" (actually - Intel's celeron chip had the issue that after long use it'd fry itself at any speed). even if the circuit can be imaged it's incredible "it actually works", takes the heat, and is reliable
* germany, russia, they makes complete high tech cpu - but they only do it low volume, for weapons or industry projects and for rich people
* usa: has some high tech high volume capability (Intel, Ti, others?). however democrats are using both politics, hacked technology, and mis-information propaganda to put an end to Intel and other USA chip makers.
CHINA
* making cpu in all phones, laptops, pads. making them at high volume
BOARD MAKINNG TECHNOLOGY:
not really dis-similar from chip making on a larger scale (uses image of circuitry, there are many steps to the process, sheets of intermediate substrate used, machines are dedicateed to doing each step). it is lower end - the equipment needed doesn't cost as much, but is still far beyond "any local investor"
* germany, russia, they makes complete high tech motherboards - but they only do it low volume, for weapons or industry projects and for rich people
* usa: Intel (and others) make motherboards (the best), but democrats hate usa and have flooded PC stores and the internet with "anti-intel" propaganda: many chinese websites and forums "made to appear to be made by americans" claims Intel makes cpu but do not make motherboards. that is how china "competes". that and taking out global debt to build facilities other towns "can't afford"
CHINA
* making boards in all phones, laptops, pads. making them at high volume (china japan usa outsource many but not all boards and chips to malaysia. thats right - china outsources too - it's not just japan that outsources or usa)
TOTAL:
* germany russia others outsource to CHINA just like USA does
* only Intel USA (and a few other USA companies like Ti) make MOTHERBOARDS and CPU in quantity sufficient to "supply a consumer market"
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does it make a difference if europe never goes to volume and USA gets flim-flammed into outsourcing even further?
yes. governments, banks, military, businesses all use computers (and have been continually attacked by china and have had theft by china or hackers)
there isn't a signle chance that having all consumer computers (ie, where most profit $$ is) made by one island of china "is a good idea". there would be (is) a china military hack in any corner of billions of corners in the high tech circuitry
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USA and others cannot let one island in china be "the only maker of phones laptop and pad that have cell phone ability"
the ability is about VOLUME (factory size, investment in machines, moderate size skilled staff) as much as technology. it's about being there and doing the job also.
bad idea - outsource all to one island
CPU MAKING TECHNOLOGY:
* youtube has some interesting video on how cpu are made. they are using liquid plastic hit with light and ending up with wires 1 micron wide. nanometer tech chips. it's not interesting they can use imagery and etch copper really - what amazing moreso is the result "works at high speed and low power and doesn't degrade with use" (actually - Intel's celeron chip had the issue that after long use it'd fry itself at any speed). even if the circuit can be imaged it's incredible "it actually works", takes the heat, and is reliable
* germany, russia, they makes complete high tech cpu - but they only do it low volume, for weapons or industry projects and for rich people
* usa: has some high tech high volume capability (Intel, Ti, others?). however democrats are using both politics, hacked technology, and mis-information propaganda to put an end to Intel and other USA chip makers.
CHINA
* making cpu in all phones, laptops, pads. making them at high volume
BOARD MAKINNG TECHNOLOGY:
not really dis-similar from chip making on a larger scale (uses image of circuitry, there are many steps to the process, sheets of intermediate substrate used, machines are dedicateed to doing each step). it is lower end - the equipment needed doesn't cost as much, but is still far beyond "any local investor"
* germany, russia, they makes complete high tech motherboards - but they only do it low volume, for weapons or industry projects and for rich people
* usa: Intel (and others) make motherboards (the best), but democrats hate usa and have flooded PC stores and the internet with "anti-intel" propaganda: many chinese websites and forums "made to appear to be made by americans" claims Intel makes cpu but do not make motherboards. that is how china "competes". that and taking out global debt to build facilities other towns "can't afford"
CHINA
* making boards in all phones, laptops, pads. making them at high volume (china japan usa outsource many but not all boards and chips to malaysia. thats right - china outsources too - it's not just japan that outsources or usa)
TOTAL:
* germany russia others outsource to CHINA just like USA does
* only Intel USA (and a few other USA companies like Ti) make MOTHERBOARDS and CPU in quantity sufficient to "supply a consumer market"
========================
does it make a difference if europe never goes to volume and USA gets flim-flammed into outsourcing even further?
yes. governments, banks, military, businesses all use computers (and have been continually attacked by china and have had theft by china or hackers)
there isn't a signle chance that having all consumer computers (ie, where most profit $$ is) made by one island of china "is a good idea". there would be (is) a china military hack in any corner of billions of corners in the high tech circuitry
========================
USA and others cannot let one island in china be "the only maker of phones laptop and pad that have cell phone ability"
the ability is about VOLUME (factory size, investment in machines, moderate size skilled staff) as much as technology. it's about being there and doing the job also.
bad idea - outsource all to one island
Re: HIGH TECH REVIEW: cpu who Big Tech are slaves to, the "ecosystem"
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TO STUPID MILLENIALS
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Date: September 25, 2020 04:29PM
Microsoft was the worst fucking company. their DOS was stolen and froze allot (other companies had DOS too)
Microsoft Windows 95 needed to be re-installed practically daily if "actually used for anything"
IT DID NOT MATTER IT WAS THE WORST SOFTWARE EVER RELEASED - DUE TO DUMPING ON THE MARKET (which is illegal, many lawsuits on that), IT HAD THE HIGHEST VOLUME IN THE CONSUMER MARKET, despite being the worst available system (it was given away or just $1/copy - to illegally flood the market)
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VOLUME DOES MATTER. consumer market profits do matter.
refusing to do volume work, refusing to enforce existing laws IS what destroyed other software vendors and put the worst company in the lead
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CHINA can obliterate europe and USA and has the power to make tech advancements that would make "catching up nearly impossible. CHINA has shown willingness to use products that attack consumers, and use dictation to take fortune from some and distribute it to chosen others
Microsoft Windows 95 needed to be re-installed practically daily if "actually used for anything"
IT DID NOT MATTER IT WAS THE WORST SOFTWARE EVER RELEASED - DUE TO DUMPING ON THE MARKET (which is illegal, many lawsuits on that), IT HAD THE HIGHEST VOLUME IN THE CONSUMER MARKET, despite being the worst available system (it was given away or just $1/copy - to illegally flood the market)
=========================
VOLUME DOES MATTER. consumer market profits do matter.
refusing to do volume work, refusing to enforce existing laws IS what destroyed other software vendors and put the worst company in the lead
=========================
CHINA can obliterate europe and USA and has the power to make tech advancements that would make "catching up nearly impossible. CHINA has shown willingness to use products that attack consumers, and use dictation to take fortune from some and distribute it to chosen others
Re: HIGH TECH REVIEW: cpu who Big Tech are slaves to, the "ecosystem"
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TO STUPID MILLENIALS
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Date: September 25, 2020 04:41PM
CHINA
* making cpu and motherboard and most other parts in all phones, laptops, pads. making them at high volume
DOES IT MATTER?
YES. IT MATTERS.
Intel et al are in a vortex of beating off fake lying propaganda and fake web posts and California Democrats and chinese making the FAKE NEWS outsourcing to china (ie, Apple - who just chose to "switch to ubuntu / ARM" for all their products
DON'T BUY THE PRODUCTS. DON'T GIVE THEM THE PROFITS THEY WISH TO TAKE BY THEFT. DON'T BE INSANE ENOUGH TO GIVE CHINA 100% CONTROL.
there was "balance" before, however unfair, going forward there is no balance if "china controls telephones, most all cpu making and board making AND CABLE TV - anything you watch
anything you watch, anything you type, pictures and sounds of you in your home, any research you do, your right to have a military, your right to vote
ALL OF THESE ARE ABSOLUTE TOAST OF CHINA IS THE ONLY LEADER IN HIGH TECH
* making cpu and motherboard and most other parts in all phones, laptops, pads. making them at high volume
DOES IT MATTER?
YES. IT MATTERS.
Intel et al are in a vortex of beating off fake lying propaganda and fake web posts and California Democrats and chinese making the FAKE NEWS outsourcing to china (ie, Apple - who just chose to "switch to ubuntu / ARM" for all their products
DON'T BUY THE PRODUCTS. DON'T GIVE THEM THE PROFITS THEY WISH TO TAKE BY THEFT. DON'T BE INSANE ENOUGH TO GIVE CHINA 100% CONTROL.
there was "balance" before, however unfair, going forward there is no balance if "china controls telephones, most all cpu making and board making AND CABLE TV - anything you watch
anything you watch, anything you type, pictures and sounds of you in your home, any research you do, your right to have a military, your right to vote
ALL OF THESE ARE ABSOLUTE TOAST OF CHINA IS THE ONLY LEADER IN HIGH TECH
Re: HIGH TECH REVIEW: cpu who Big Tech are slaves to, the "ecosystem"
Posted by:
ergrerg
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Date: September 25, 2020 04:41PM
little red riding hood
Re: HIGH TECH REVIEW: cpu who Big Tech are slaves to, the "ecosystem"
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TO STUPID MILLENIALS
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Date: September 25, 2020 04:45PM
there was "balance" before. infact intel made many "concessions" with asians "crying they were being abused" to get ahead (somewhat like illegal alien democrats in usa crying to get #federalfunding from hillary to get ahead, then saying "fuck you we outnumber you we rule you" once they were ahead)
there were rules laid out about "intel not dominating". rules made about "unix not pumelling microsoft", microsoft was allowed to build a chinese HQ and dump in the market. there were rules laid out about microsoft not attacking software developers
THERE ARE NO RULES IF ALL PHONE PADS LAPTOPS ARE MADE IN CHINA
NO BALANCE EXCEPT CHINA DICTATORSHIP
there were rules laid out about "intel not dominating". rules made about "unix not pumelling microsoft", microsoft was allowed to build a chinese HQ and dump in the market. there were rules laid out about microsoft not attacking software developers
THERE ARE NO RULES IF ALL PHONE PADS LAPTOPS ARE MADE IN CHINA
NO BALANCE EXCEPT CHINA DICTATORSHIP
Re: HIGH TECH REVIEW: cpu who Big Tech are slaves to, the "ecosystem"
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TO STUPID MILLENIALS
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Date: September 25, 2020 04:47PM
china is not going to "simply agree to have it's dominance petered away by european commissions who don't agree with chinese success" like USA did rolling over and playing nice guy
won't happen that way
china is not going to just "give up their lead" like USA did
won't happen that way
china is not going to just "give up their lead" like USA did
Re: HIGH TECH REVIEW: cpu who Big Tech are slaves to, the "ecosystem"
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trhthhh
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Date: September 28, 2020 04:51PM
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Re: HIGH TECH REVIEW: cpu who Big Tech are slaves to, the "ecosystem"
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ergrgg
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Date: September 29, 2020 04:28PM
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