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The Washington Post's Double Standard On Immigration And Guns
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More WashingtonPost Bullshit
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Date: December 05, 2019 05:23PM
The Washington Post's Double Standard On Immigration And Guns
Last week, the Washington Post's editorial board came out against sanctuary cities. No, not the kind of sanctuary cities that refuse to enforce federal immigration law. The Post's editors have no problem with that. Instead, the Post came out against the efforts by some local governments to oppose state- and federal-level enforcement of restrictions on gun ownership.
The Post didn't go easy on these efforts either. The editorial likened the gun-owner sanctuary efforts to "vigilantism" and "frontier justice," with the obvious implication being these people are one step away from organizing lynch mobs. Moreover, we're told the movement is "nonsense fanned by mischief-makers with an agenda," and will lead to "chaos."
Recognizing the obvious double standard the Post is proposing for immigrant sanctuaries and gun-owner sanctuaries, the authors try to explain it all away:
The distinction between the two sanctuaries is basic. Localities that have passed resolutions declaring themselves Second Amendment sanctuary jurisdictions are threatening to ignore laws enacted by duly elected state legislatures and signed by governors. Immigration-focused sanctuary localities are breaking no law; rather, they are refusing purely voluntary cooperation in service to federal law enforcement.
It's pretty hard to split this hair any finer. The Post's distinction here seems to be that local nullification of federal law is acceptable, but local nullification of state law is not.
Of course, whether or not local governments are breaking a law depends on each state's constitution and the nature of "home rule" in each state. Indeed, in California, Judge James Crandall, appointed by Democratic Gov. Jerry Brown, ruled against California's law mandating local enforcement of immigration law. Crandall argued the law was "an unconstitutional invasion into the rights of the city." He also said "the operation of a police department and its jail is a city affair. For the state to say one size fits all for policing isn’t going to fit everybody." This state law was enacted — to use the words of the Post editors — "by duly elected state legislatures."
Does the Post agree or disagree with the judge's logic? If the Post's editors disagree, then on what grounds to they justify support for local governments that ignore state laws mandating compliance with immigration enforcement? If the editors agree with the ruling, then on what grounds do they deny a local government's freedom to enforce gun laws as they wish?
Several states, including Florida, have adopted laws that prohibit sanctuary cities. According to this source, at least one local government in Florida has declared itself a sanctuary for illegal immigrants. Shall we expect an editorial from the Post denouncing this flouting of state laws? That seems unlikely.
Moreover, since the Post is now coming out in favor of state and local indifference toward federal law, will the Post's editors be throwing their support behind state-level efforts to nullify federal Obamacare laws or federal gun laws?
Obviously, that's not going to happen, and we should not expect any consistency on this from the Post. To anyone who is paying attention, it is clear the Post truly has a double standard here, and has been casting about for ways to justify support for one type of local nullification, while opposing a different kind.
What the Post should have done was just come out and state what is likely the editorial board's real position: namely that restrictions on gun ownership are good, and restrictions on immigration are bad.
The conclusion: it is moral to ignore laws restricting immigration. But it is immoral to ignore laws restricting gun ownership.
Although this position on guns is certainly wrong, the Post's editors could at least have been respected for saying what they really meant. Instead, they fall back on a disingenuous claim that they support the law, and that anything else is "chaos."
This ersatz conservatism was no doubt an attempt to appeal to people who fancy themselves as "reasonable" or "moderate." Indeed many of these sorts of people continue to support the War on Drugs with nonsense about how we're all obliged to follow clearly unconstitutional federal drug laws until those laws are changed. Nonetheless, the Post's approach is inherently dishonest and double-dealing.
A truly consistent position is to let states and locals decide for themselves on all of these issues.
In a 2017 column for mises.org, I said exactly this:
If California establishes — yet again — that states can ignore and even inhibit federal arrests and prosecutions in the states, then it becomes all the easier for other states to refuse to enforce federal gun laws, federal drug laws, Obamacare, or federal mandates that states provide welfare programs and "free" taxpayer-funded services to non-citizens.
The only tool the federal government should have in these cases is to cut off funding. This is a very powerful tool, mind you, but it is also hardly a given that every state would face disaster if facing a cut in federal spending. Nor is this a one-way street. for political reasons, the federal government wants to spend money in the states just as much as the states want to receive it.
So, let's make every state a sanctuary from federal gun laws, federal immigration law, federal drug laws, federal election laws, and more.
We should take this even further, of course, and support broad "home rule" powers for individual cities and counties, so they can decide for themselves what state laws to enforce, and which to nullify. Only by decentralizing and localizing political power can we hope to have laws that actually reflect to a reasonable extent the values of the local population. Radical decentralization also makes it easier for those who disagree with these policies to escape them through physical relocation. The alternative is more of what we already have: both state and federal governments impose the will of the majority in the legislature on the minority. Often, this is a near fifty-fifty split, yet we're suppose to believe, for example, that all 39 million Californians in a place larger than Britain are obliged to follow state laws because, say, 51 percent of the population supports those policies. And if you're in the minority? Tough luck, forever. Oh, and you'll have to move hundreds of miles away to live under different laws.
If the Post really supported democracy, it would want more of it. That is, it would want more legislative bodies — whether city councils, county commissions or state legislatures — to decide matters for themselves. And that includes laws covering guns.
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/washington-posts-double-standard-immigration-and-guns
Last week, the Washington Post's editorial board came out against sanctuary cities. No, not the kind of sanctuary cities that refuse to enforce federal immigration law. The Post's editors have no problem with that. Instead, the Post came out against the efforts by some local governments to oppose state- and federal-level enforcement of restrictions on gun ownership.
The Post didn't go easy on these efforts either. The editorial likened the gun-owner sanctuary efforts to "vigilantism" and "frontier justice," with the obvious implication being these people are one step away from organizing lynch mobs. Moreover, we're told the movement is "nonsense fanned by mischief-makers with an agenda," and will lead to "chaos."
Recognizing the obvious double standard the Post is proposing for immigrant sanctuaries and gun-owner sanctuaries, the authors try to explain it all away:
The distinction between the two sanctuaries is basic. Localities that have passed resolutions declaring themselves Second Amendment sanctuary jurisdictions are threatening to ignore laws enacted by duly elected state legislatures and signed by governors. Immigration-focused sanctuary localities are breaking no law; rather, they are refusing purely voluntary cooperation in service to federal law enforcement.
It's pretty hard to split this hair any finer. The Post's distinction here seems to be that local nullification of federal law is acceptable, but local nullification of state law is not.
Of course, whether or not local governments are breaking a law depends on each state's constitution and the nature of "home rule" in each state. Indeed, in California, Judge James Crandall, appointed by Democratic Gov. Jerry Brown, ruled against California's law mandating local enforcement of immigration law. Crandall argued the law was "an unconstitutional invasion into the rights of the city." He also said "the operation of a police department and its jail is a city affair. For the state to say one size fits all for policing isn’t going to fit everybody." This state law was enacted — to use the words of the Post editors — "by duly elected state legislatures."
Does the Post agree or disagree with the judge's logic? If the Post's editors disagree, then on what grounds to they justify support for local governments that ignore state laws mandating compliance with immigration enforcement? If the editors agree with the ruling, then on what grounds do they deny a local government's freedom to enforce gun laws as they wish?
Several states, including Florida, have adopted laws that prohibit sanctuary cities. According to this source, at least one local government in Florida has declared itself a sanctuary for illegal immigrants. Shall we expect an editorial from the Post denouncing this flouting of state laws? That seems unlikely.
Moreover, since the Post is now coming out in favor of state and local indifference toward federal law, will the Post's editors be throwing their support behind state-level efforts to nullify federal Obamacare laws or federal gun laws?
Obviously, that's not going to happen, and we should not expect any consistency on this from the Post. To anyone who is paying attention, it is clear the Post truly has a double standard here, and has been casting about for ways to justify support for one type of local nullification, while opposing a different kind.
What the Post should have done was just come out and state what is likely the editorial board's real position: namely that restrictions on gun ownership are good, and restrictions on immigration are bad.
The conclusion: it is moral to ignore laws restricting immigration. But it is immoral to ignore laws restricting gun ownership.
Although this position on guns is certainly wrong, the Post's editors could at least have been respected for saying what they really meant. Instead, they fall back on a disingenuous claim that they support the law, and that anything else is "chaos."
This ersatz conservatism was no doubt an attempt to appeal to people who fancy themselves as "reasonable" or "moderate." Indeed many of these sorts of people continue to support the War on Drugs with nonsense about how we're all obliged to follow clearly unconstitutional federal drug laws until those laws are changed. Nonetheless, the Post's approach is inherently dishonest and double-dealing.
A truly consistent position is to let states and locals decide for themselves on all of these issues.
In a 2017 column for mises.org, I said exactly this:
If California establishes — yet again — that states can ignore and even inhibit federal arrests and prosecutions in the states, then it becomes all the easier for other states to refuse to enforce federal gun laws, federal drug laws, Obamacare, or federal mandates that states provide welfare programs and "free" taxpayer-funded services to non-citizens.
The only tool the federal government should have in these cases is to cut off funding. This is a very powerful tool, mind you, but it is also hardly a given that every state would face disaster if facing a cut in federal spending. Nor is this a one-way street. for political reasons, the federal government wants to spend money in the states just as much as the states want to receive it.
So, let's make every state a sanctuary from federal gun laws, federal immigration law, federal drug laws, federal election laws, and more.
We should take this even further, of course, and support broad "home rule" powers for individual cities and counties, so they can decide for themselves what state laws to enforce, and which to nullify. Only by decentralizing and localizing political power can we hope to have laws that actually reflect to a reasonable extent the values of the local population. Radical decentralization also makes it easier for those who disagree with these policies to escape them through physical relocation. The alternative is more of what we already have: both state and federal governments impose the will of the majority in the legislature on the minority. Often, this is a near fifty-fifty split, yet we're suppose to believe, for example, that all 39 million Californians in a place larger than Britain are obliged to follow state laws because, say, 51 percent of the population supports those policies. And if you're in the minority? Tough luck, forever. Oh, and you'll have to move hundreds of miles away to live under different laws.
If the Post really supported democracy, it would want more of it. That is, it would want more legislative bodies — whether city councils, county commissions or state legislatures — to decide matters for themselves. And that includes laws covering guns.
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/washington-posts-double-standard-immigration-and-guns
Democracy dies in a democrat's ass!
Re: The Washington Post's Double Standard On Immigration And Guns
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Trump Country
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Date: December 05, 2019 05:33PM
Yep. If it weren't for double standards, the left wouldn't have any standards at all. The Washington Compost is a garbage tabloid at this point. When are they going to start saying Melania gave birth to Bat boy?
Re: The Washington Post's Double Standard On Immigration And Guns
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The gander has spoken
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Date: December 05, 2019 07:43PM
Either we are going to ignore laws or not.
Libtards want to ignore weed laws, immigration laws and laws that affect niggers. They started it and now they don't like it.
Libtards want to ignore weed laws, immigration laws and laws that affect niggers. They started it and now they don't like it.
Re: The Washington Post's Double Standard On Immigration And Guns
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Date: December 05, 2019 08:09PM
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Date: December 05, 2019 09:40PM
More WashingtonPost Bullshit Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> The Washington Post's Double Standard On
> Immigration And Guns
>
>
> Last week, the Washington Post's editorial board
> came out against sanctuary cities. No, not the
> kind of sanctuary cities that refuse to enforce
> federal immigration law. The Post's editors have
> no problem with that. Instead, the Post came out
> against the efforts by some local governments to
> oppose state- and federal-level enforcement of
> restrictions on gun ownership.
>
>
>
> The Post didn't go easy on these efforts either.
> The editorial likened the gun-owner sanctuary
> efforts to "vigilantism" and "frontier justice,"
> with the obvious implication being these people
> are one step away from organizing lynch mobs.
> Moreover, we're told the movement is "nonsense
> fanned by mischief-makers with an agenda," and
> will lead to "chaos."
>
> Recognizing the obvious double standard the Post
> is proposing for immigrant sanctuaries and
> gun-owner sanctuaries, the authors try to explain
> it all away:
>
> The distinction between the two sanctuaries
> is basic. Localities that have passed resolutions
> declaring themselves Second Amendment sanctuary
> jurisdictions are threatening to ignore laws
> enacted by duly elected state legislatures and
> signed by governors. Immigration-focused sanctuary
> localities are breaking no law; rather, they are
> refusing purely voluntary cooperation in service
> to federal law enforcement.
>
> It's pretty hard to split this hair any finer. The
> Post's distinction here seems to be that local
> nullification of federal law is acceptable, but
> local nullification of state law is not.
>
> Of course, whether or not local governments are
> breaking a law depends on each state's
> constitution and the nature of "home rule" in each
> state. Indeed, in California, Judge James
> Crandall, appointed by Democratic Gov. Jerry
> Brown, ruled against California's law mandating
> local enforcement of immigration law. Crandall
> argued the law was "an unconstitutional invasion
> into the rights of the city." He also said "the
> operation of a police department and its jail is a
> city affair. For the state to say one size fits
> all for policing isn’t going to fit everybody."
> This state law was enacted — to use the words of
> the Post editors — "by duly elected state
> legislatures."
>
> Does the Post agree or disagree with the judge's
> logic? If the Post's editors disagree, then on
> what grounds to they justify support for local
> governments that ignore state laws mandating
> compliance with immigration enforcement? If the
> editors agree with the ruling, then on what
> grounds do they deny a local government's freedom
> to enforce gun laws as they wish?
>
> Several states, including Florida, have adopted
> laws that prohibit sanctuary cities. According to
> this source, at least one local government in
> Florida has declared itself a sanctuary for
> illegal immigrants. Shall we expect an editorial
> from the Post denouncing this flouting of state
> laws? That seems unlikely.
>
> Moreover, since the Post is now coming out in
> favor of state and local indifference toward
> federal law, will the Post's editors be throwing
> their support behind state-level efforts to
> nullify federal Obamacare laws or federal gun
> laws?
>
> Obviously, that's not going to happen, and we
> should not expect any consistency on this from the
> Post. To anyone who is paying attention, it is
> clear the Post truly has a double standard here,
> and has been casting about for ways to justify
> support for one type of local nullification, while
> opposing a different kind.
>
> What the Post should have done was just come out
> and state what is likely the editorial board's
> real position: namely that restrictions on gun
> ownership are good, and restrictions on
> immigration are bad.
>
> The conclusion: it is moral to ignore laws
> restricting immigration. But it is immoral to
> ignore laws restricting gun ownership.
>
> Although this position on guns is certainly wrong,
> the Post's editors could at least have been
> respected for saying what they really meant.
> Instead, they fall back on a disingenuous claim
> that they support the law, and that anything else
> is "chaos."
>
>
> This ersatz conservatism was no doubt an attempt
> to appeal to people who fancy themselves as
> "reasonable" or "moderate." Indeed many of these
> sorts of people continue to support the War on
> Drugs with nonsense about how we're all obliged to
> follow clearly unconstitutional federal drug laws
> until those laws are changed. Nonetheless, the
> Post's approach is inherently dishonest and
> double-dealing.
>
> A truly consistent position is to let states and
> locals decide for themselves on all of these
> issues.
>
> In a 2017 column for mises.org, I said exactly
> this:
>
> If California establishes — yet again —
> that states can ignore and even inhibit federal
> arrests and prosecutions in the states, then it
> becomes all the easier for other states to refuse
> to enforce federal gun laws, federal drug laws,
> Obamacare, or federal mandates that states provide
> welfare programs and "free" taxpayer-funded
> services to non-citizens.
>
> The only tool the federal government should
> have in these cases is to cut off funding. This is
> a very powerful tool, mind you, but it is also
> hardly a given that every state would face
> disaster if facing a cut in federal spending. Nor
> is this a one-way street. for political reasons,
> the federal government wants to spend money in the
> states just as much as the states want to receive
> it.
>
> So, let's make every state a sanctuary from
> federal gun laws, federal immigration law, federal
> drug laws, federal election laws, and more.
>
> We should take this even further, of course, and
> support broad "home rule" powers for individual
> cities and counties, so they can decide for
> themselves what state laws to enforce, and which
> to nullify. Only by decentralizing and localizing
> political power can we hope to have laws that
> actually reflect to a reasonable extent the values
> of the local population. Radical decentralization
> also makes it easier for those who disagree with
> these policies to escape them through physical
> relocation. The alternative is more of what we
> already have: both state and federal governments
> impose the will of the majority in the legislature
> on the minority. Often, this is a near fifty-fifty
> split, yet we're suppose to believe, for example,
> that all 39 million Californians in a place larger
> than Britain are obliged to follow state laws
> because, say, 51 percent of the population
> supports those policies. And if you're in the
> minority? Tough luck, forever. Oh, and you'll have
> to move hundreds of miles away to live under
> different laws.
>
> If the Post really supported democracy, it would
> want more of it. That is, it would want more
> legislative bodies — whether city councils,
> county commissions or state legislatures — to
> decide matters for themselves. And that includes
> laws covering guns.
>
> https://www.zerohedge.com/political/washington-pos
> ts-double-standard-immigration-and-guns
>
>
I didn't know the washington post was still around too funny
-------------------------------------------------------
> The Washington Post's Double Standard On
> Immigration And Guns
>
>
> Last week, the Washington Post's editorial board
> came out against sanctuary cities. No, not the
> kind of sanctuary cities that refuse to enforce
> federal immigration law. The Post's editors have
> no problem with that. Instead, the Post came out
> against the efforts by some local governments to
> oppose state- and federal-level enforcement of
> restrictions on gun ownership.
>
>
>
> The Post didn't go easy on these efforts either.
> The editorial likened the gun-owner sanctuary
> efforts to "vigilantism" and "frontier justice,"
> with the obvious implication being these people
> are one step away from organizing lynch mobs.
> Moreover, we're told the movement is "nonsense
> fanned by mischief-makers with an agenda," and
> will lead to "chaos."
>
> Recognizing the obvious double standard the Post
> is proposing for immigrant sanctuaries and
> gun-owner sanctuaries, the authors try to explain
> it all away:
>
> The distinction between the two sanctuaries
> is basic. Localities that have passed resolutions
> declaring themselves Second Amendment sanctuary
> jurisdictions are threatening to ignore laws
> enacted by duly elected state legislatures and
> signed by governors. Immigration-focused sanctuary
> localities are breaking no law; rather, they are
> refusing purely voluntary cooperation in service
> to federal law enforcement.
>
> It's pretty hard to split this hair any finer. The
> Post's distinction here seems to be that local
> nullification of federal law is acceptable, but
> local nullification of state law is not.
>
> Of course, whether or not local governments are
> breaking a law depends on each state's
> constitution and the nature of "home rule" in each
> state. Indeed, in California, Judge James
> Crandall, appointed by Democratic Gov. Jerry
> Brown, ruled against California's law mandating
> local enforcement of immigration law. Crandall
> argued the law was "an unconstitutional invasion
> into the rights of the city." He also said "the
> operation of a police department and its jail is a
> city affair. For the state to say one size fits
> all for policing isn’t going to fit everybody."
> This state law was enacted — to use the words of
> the Post editors — "by duly elected state
> legislatures."
>
> Does the Post agree or disagree with the judge's
> logic? If the Post's editors disagree, then on
> what grounds to they justify support for local
> governments that ignore state laws mandating
> compliance with immigration enforcement? If the
> editors agree with the ruling, then on what
> grounds do they deny a local government's freedom
> to enforce gun laws as they wish?
>
> Several states, including Florida, have adopted
> laws that prohibit sanctuary cities. According to
> this source, at least one local government in
> Florida has declared itself a sanctuary for
> illegal immigrants. Shall we expect an editorial
> from the Post denouncing this flouting of state
> laws? That seems unlikely.
>
> Moreover, since the Post is now coming out in
> favor of state and local indifference toward
> federal law, will the Post's editors be throwing
> their support behind state-level efforts to
> nullify federal Obamacare laws or federal gun
> laws?
>
> Obviously, that's not going to happen, and we
> should not expect any consistency on this from the
> Post. To anyone who is paying attention, it is
> clear the Post truly has a double standard here,
> and has been casting about for ways to justify
> support for one type of local nullification, while
> opposing a different kind.
>
> What the Post should have done was just come out
> and state what is likely the editorial board's
> real position: namely that restrictions on gun
> ownership are good, and restrictions on
> immigration are bad.
>
> The conclusion: it is moral to ignore laws
> restricting immigration. But it is immoral to
> ignore laws restricting gun ownership.
>
> Although this position on guns is certainly wrong,
> the Post's editors could at least have been
> respected for saying what they really meant.
> Instead, they fall back on a disingenuous claim
> that they support the law, and that anything else
> is "chaos."
>
>
> This ersatz conservatism was no doubt an attempt
> to appeal to people who fancy themselves as
> "reasonable" or "moderate." Indeed many of these
> sorts of people continue to support the War on
> Drugs with nonsense about how we're all obliged to
> follow clearly unconstitutional federal drug laws
> until those laws are changed. Nonetheless, the
> Post's approach is inherently dishonest and
> double-dealing.
>
> A truly consistent position is to let states and
> locals decide for themselves on all of these
> issues.
>
> In a 2017 column for mises.org, I said exactly
> this:
>
> If California establishes — yet again —
> that states can ignore and even inhibit federal
> arrests and prosecutions in the states, then it
> becomes all the easier for other states to refuse
> to enforce federal gun laws, federal drug laws,
> Obamacare, or federal mandates that states provide
> welfare programs and "free" taxpayer-funded
> services to non-citizens.
>
> The only tool the federal government should
> have in these cases is to cut off funding. This is
> a very powerful tool, mind you, but it is also
> hardly a given that every state would face
> disaster if facing a cut in federal spending. Nor
> is this a one-way street. for political reasons,
> the federal government wants to spend money in the
> states just as much as the states want to receive
> it.
>
> So, let's make every state a sanctuary from
> federal gun laws, federal immigration law, federal
> drug laws, federal election laws, and more.
>
> We should take this even further, of course, and
> support broad "home rule" powers for individual
> cities and counties, so they can decide for
> themselves what state laws to enforce, and which
> to nullify. Only by decentralizing and localizing
> political power can we hope to have laws that
> actually reflect to a reasonable extent the values
> of the local population. Radical decentralization
> also makes it easier for those who disagree with
> these policies to escape them through physical
> relocation. The alternative is more of what we
> already have: both state and federal governments
> impose the will of the majority in the legislature
> on the minority. Often, this is a near fifty-fifty
> split, yet we're suppose to believe, for example,
> that all 39 million Californians in a place larger
> than Britain are obliged to follow state laws
> because, say, 51 percent of the population
> supports those policies. And if you're in the
> minority? Tough luck, forever. Oh, and you'll have
> to move hundreds of miles away to live under
> different laws.
>
> If the Post really supported democracy, it would
> want more of it. That is, it would want more
> legislative bodies — whether city councils,
> county commissions or state legislatures — to
> decide matters for themselves. And that includes
> laws covering guns.
>
> https://www.zerohedge.com/political/washington-pos
> ts-double-standard-immigration-and-guns
>
>
Democracy dies in a democrat's ass!
I didn't know the washington post was still around too funny