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Better watch out what you GOOGLE people.
Posted by: Raz aka "Sp-00k" ()
Date: January 18, 2009 12:53AM

The List Of Carnivore
And Eschelon Keywords
6-28-5

The list below contains many of the keywords the Government Spooks search YOUR email and chat for.

Explosives, guns, assassination, conspiracy, primers, detonators, initiators, main charge, nuclear charges, ambush, sniping, motorcade, IRS, BATF, jtf-6, mjtf, hrt, srt, hostages, munitions, weapons, TNT, rdx, amfo, hmtd, picric acid, silver nitrite, mercury fulminate, presidential motorcade, salt peter, charcoal, sulfur, c4, composition b, amatol, petn, lead azide, lead styphante, ddnp, tetryl, nitrocellulose, nitrostarch, mines, grenades, rockets, fuses, delay mechanism, mortars, rpg7, propellants, incendiaries, incendiary device, thermite, security forces, intelligence, agencies, hrt, resistance, psyops, infiltration, assault team, defensive elements, evasion, detection, mission, communications, the football, platter charge, shaped charges, m118, claymore, body armor, charges, shrapnel, timers, timing devices, boobytraps, detcord, pmk 40, silencers, Uzi, HK-MP5, AK-47, FAL, Jatti, Skorpion MP, teflon bullets, cordite, napalm, law, Stingers, RPK, SOCIMI 821 SMG, STEN, BAR, MP40, HK-G3,FN-MAG, RPD,PzB39, Air Force One, M60, RPK74, SG530, SG540, Galil arm, Walther WA2000, HK33KE, Parker-Hale MOD. 82, AKR, Ingram MAC10, M3, L34A1, Walther MPL, AKS-74, HK-GR6, subsonic rounds, ballistic media, special forces, JFKSWC, SFOD-D! , SRT, Rewson, SAFE, Waihopai, INFOSEC, ASPIC, Information Security, SAI, Information Warfare, IW, IS, Privacy, Information Terrorism, Kenya, Terrorism Defensive Information, Defense Information Warfare, Offensive Information, Offensive Information Warfare, NAIA, SAPM, ASU, ECHELON ASTS, National Information Infrastructure, InfoSec, SAO, Reno, Compsec, JICS, Computer Terrorism, Firewalls, Secure Internet Connections, RSP, ISS, JDF, Passwords, NAAP, DefCon V, RSO, Hackers, Encryption, ASWS, Espionage, USDOJ, NSA, CIA, S/Key, SSL, FBI, Secret Service, USSS, Defcon, Military, White House, Undercover, NCCS, Mayfly, PGP, SALDV, PEM, resta, RSA, Perl-RSA, MSNBC, bet, AOL, AOL TOS, CIS, CBOT, AIMSX, STARLAN, 3B2, BITNET, Tanzania, SAMU, COSMOS, DATTA, E911, FCIC, HTCIA, IACIS, UT/RUS, JANET, ram, JICC, ReMOB, LEETAC, UTU, VNET, BRLO, SADCC, NSLEP, SACLANTCEN, FALN, 877, NAVELEXSYSSECENGCEN, BZ, CANSLO, CBNRC, CIDA, JAVA, rsta, Awarehouse, Active X, Compsec 97, RENS, LLC, DERA, JIC, ri! p, rb, Wu, RDI, Mavricks, BIOL, Meta-hackers, ^?, SADT, Steve Case, Tools, RECCEX, Telex, OTAN, monarchist, NMIC, NIOG, IDB, MID/KL, NADIS, NMI, SEIDM, BNC, CNCIS, STEEPLEBUSH, RG, BSS, DDIS, mixmaster, BCCI, BRGE, SARL, Military Intelligence, JICA, Scully, recondo, Flame, Infowar, Bubba, Freeh, Donaldson, Archives, ISADC, CISSP, Sundevil, jack, Investigation, JOTS, ISACA, NCSA, ASVC, spook words, RRF, 1071, Bugs Bunny, Verisign, Secure, ASIO, Lebed, ICE, NRO, Lexis-Nexis, NSCT, SCIF, FLiR, JIC, bce, Lacrosse, Bunker, Flashbangs, HRT, IRA, EODG, DIA, USCOI, CID, BOP, FINCEN, FLETC, NIJ, ACC, AFSPC, BMDO, site, SASSTIXS, NAVWAN, NRL, RL, NAVWCWPNS, NSWC, USAFA, AHPCRC, ARPA, SARD, LABLINK, USACIL, SAPT, USCG, NRC, ~, O, NSA/CSS, CDC, DOE, SAAM, FMS, HPCC, NTIS, SEL, USCODE, CISE, SIRC, CIM, ISN, DJC, bemd, SGC, UNCPCJ, CFC, SABENA, DREO, CDA, SADRS, DRA, SHAPE, bird dog, SACLANT, BECCA, DCJFTF, HALO, SC, TA SAS, Lander, GSM, T Branch, AST, SAMCOMM, HAHO, FKS, 868, GCHQ, DITSA, S! 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And WALMART, Target, RObeks and Starbucks

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Re: Better watch out what you GOOGLE people.
Posted by: Do-I-Care ()
Date: January 18, 2009 12:58AM

Why should I care? If I'm not doing anything wrong - I have nothing to hide. Read the Terms and Conditions to your GMail or any other account for that matter - non of it is "private" and all hosting facilities will turn over your account information and correspondence. You agree to it when you sign up for their services.

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Re: Better watch out what you GOOGLE people.
Posted by: Bob ()
Date: January 18, 2009 03:31AM

Raz aka "Sp-00k" Wrote:
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> The List Of Carnivore
> And Eschelon Keywords
> 6-28-5
>
> The list below contains many of the keywords the
> Government Spooks search YOUR email and chat for.
>

Didja get a knock on your door yet? You just posted the majority of the watch words.


Besides, um, just like in the recreational drug use crowd, nobody uses those words.

You would never call up your dealer and tell him you want to buy an ounce of bud. You'd probably say "I need to meet up with you so I can drop of that CD I borrowed" or something.

I'm sure the terrorists use codes that have no correlation to what they are really talking about.

"Hey, this is ah-makrotchurtz, did yusuqa mahballs give you the address to that new kabob place?"

"Yes, I heard it opens next friday"


That could be a confirmation of the target being given to him, and then a reply with when he plans on attacking the target.

But even that's probably too obvious. I bet they use even more obscure gibberish to communicate.

Besides, I read something years ago about some british or dutch softwre engineer who came up with a way to take plain text and encode it into a jpeg or gif image so that it appeared like a normal picture file. I can imagine if you encrypt the message first, then encode it into the image, even if someone discovered that the image had a message hidden in it, it would be difficult to devrypt it.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 01/18/2009 03:39AM by Bob.

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Re: Better watch out what you GOOGLE people.
Posted by: dono ()
Date: January 18, 2009 05:25AM

Do-I-Care Wrote:
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> Why should I care? If I'm not doing anything
> wrong - I have nothing to hide. Read the Terms
> and Conditions to your GMail or any other account
> for that matter - non of it is "private" and all
> hosting facilities will turn over your account
> information and correspondence. You agree to it
> when you sign up for their services.

First they came for my neighbor...

froglegs?!?

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Re: Better watch out what you GOOGLE people.
Posted by: Bob ()
Date: January 18, 2009 05:50AM

dono Wrote:
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> First they came for my neighbor...
>
> froglegs?!?

I'm guessing you're referring to Martin Niemoeller?

"First they came for the Communists, but I was not a Communist - so I said nothing.

Then they came for the Social Democrats, but I was not a Social Democrat - so I did nothing.

Then they came for the trade unionists, but I was not a trade unionist.

And then they came for the Jews, but I was not a Jew - so I did little.

Then when they came for me, there was no one left who could stand up for me."

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Re: Better watch out what you GOOGLE people.
Posted by: Bob ()
Date: January 18, 2009 05:55AM

I'm going to write a perl script with those words in an array, and create emails using a random selection of those words.

I wonder how long before I get a free trip to Guantanamo. Especially if I send the emails to people in our office in Beirut. At least it's a lot warmer down there than it is up here at the moment.

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Re: Better watch out what you GOOGLE people.
Posted by: jimW ()
Date: January 18, 2009 09:25AM

Bob Wrote:
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> I wonder how long before I get a free trip to
> Guantanamo.

Wouldn't last long. The first thing Obama is going to do is shut that place down. and let all the terrorists free. no worries thought, as long as they set them free in alaska and notify sarah. she'll "get em alright"

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Re: Better watch out what you GOOGLE people.
Posted by: WingNut ()
Date: January 18, 2009 11:22AM

"First they came for the Terrorists, but I was not a Terrorist - so I said nothing.

Then they came for the Illegal Aliens, but I was not a Illegal Alien - so I did nothing.

Then they came for the people who traded bomb recipes and kiddie porn online, but I was not a trader of bomb recipes or kiddie porn so I said nothing.

And then we all had a drink and cheered because we'd gotten a lot of dangerous fuckheads out of our great counrty."

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Re: Better watch out what you GOOGLE people.
Date: January 18, 2009 11:39AM

Flintlocks?

The face of terrorism...

Musket Drill Pictures, Images and Photos

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Re: Better watch out what you GOOGLE people.
Posted by: Gravis ()
Date: January 18, 2009 02:51PM

of coarse this is a perfectly legit list.

these are the obvious ones they are looking for:

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Sex
Bubba the Love Sponge
Tie-fighter
Nerd
lamma
Electron
quiche
Cowboy
clone
Elvis
Bugs Bunny
ninja
fangs
curly
Area51
Nike
Pixar


toad
fish
gorilla
beef
real
guest
sneakers
Fax
quarter
rain
garbage
MSNBC
AOL
AOL TOS
William Gates
zip
bet
supercomputer
debugging
ID
PPP
MD5
OSS
Siemens
RPC
+=
^?
$ @
$
^
^?
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*&
3M
jaws
Global
7, 51, 20, 310, 17, 312, 877, 226, 69, 701, 127, 888, 1997, 510, 1984, 2010, 414
Texas
MIT
real
RAID
van
market
PPP
Gamma
mega
AT&T
SGI
SUN
MCI
NASA
Golf
sardine
bank
secure shell
screws
Harvard
zone
sport
shelter
Siemens
blackjack
Fox
basement
Maple
Tokyo
cards
Aladdin
Austin
Bob
Chan
Face
Reno
site
IRS
PBX
SLI
Whitewater
Daisy
Jasmine
Stephanie
Reflection
Spoke
Talent
Trump
FX
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Re: Better watch out what you GOOGLE people.
Posted by: 496 ()
Date: January 18, 2009 04:35PM

Spunky is now Raz aka "Sp-00k" ?

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Re: Better watch out what you GOOGLE people.
Posted by: raz ()
Date: January 18, 2009 05:13PM

Hell no.....Who is this Spunky....I was just bored last night but I'm having fun on this site though.

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Re: Better watch out what you GOOGLE people.
Posted by: Clown Shoe ()
Date: January 18, 2009 05:50PM

Bugs Bunny made the list????

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Re: Better watch out what you GOOGLE people.
Posted by: Libertarian1 ()
Date: January 18, 2009 06:50PM

Do-I-Care Wrote:
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> Why should I care? If I'm not doing anything
> wrong - I have nothing to hide.

Don't even dream it. This is why God invented lawyers.

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Re: Better watch out what you GOOGLE people.
Posted by: Bob ()
Date: January 19, 2009 01:17AM

raz Wrote:
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> Hell no.....Who is this Spunky....I was just bored
> last night but I'm having fun on this site though.


If you're having fun on this site, that's what it's here for.

I'm pretty sure if you like to be opinionated and can take being called names, this is the site for you. ;)

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