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American Exceptionalism
Posted by: Sad for our country ()
Date: March 16, 2014 08:12PM

And, here is a wonderful example of America's global strength and exceptionalism. Such a sad state of affairs for our country.
http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-TV/2014/03/14/Kerry-Wants-To-Makes-Sure-Putin-Knows-Its-Nothing-Personal-Not-a-Threat

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Re: American Exceptionalism
Posted by: DrHenryKillinger ()
Date: March 16, 2014 08:30PM

It takes only a few bad decisions to turn a world leader into a laughing stock.

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Re: American Exceptionalism
Posted by: Rockhound ()
Date: March 16, 2014 08:36PM

This is the kind of propaganda they'll use for the next couple years to gear people up for a Republican president and a couple of new wars.

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Re: American Exceptionalism
Posted by: DrHenryKillinger ()
Date: March 16, 2014 08:43PM

Rockhound Wrote:
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> This is the kind of propaganda they'll use for the
> next couple years to gear people up for a
> Republican president and a couple of new wars.

It seems that might become a reality. I can't wait to see how quickly "fiscal conservatism" gets thrown out the window.

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Re: American Exceptionalism
Posted by: Debbie Downer Democrat XXXX ()
Date: March 16, 2014 08:57PM

Whether it goes for the Republican party or not, we do have to realize that a big portion of America has been thrown away for quite a few decades now. It's just that over the past 5 years, the "turbo" button has been pressed and the pace has been increased a bit.


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Re: American Exceptionalism
Posted by: Gerrymanderer2 ()
Date: March 16, 2014 09:00PM

Debbie Downer Democrat XXXX Wrote:
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> Whether it goes for the Republican party or not,
> we do have to realize that a big portion of
> America has been thrown away for quite a few
> decades now. It's just that over the past 5
> years, the "turbo" button has been pressed and the
> pace has been increased a bit.
>


Although your analysis isn't based in fact. If thats the case then why is your turbo button on as well? You're eager to get the old crooks back in is it?



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 03/16/2014 09:00PM by Gerrymanderer2.

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Re: American Exceptionalism
Posted by: Rockhound ()
Date: March 16, 2014 09:01PM

(+) VS (-), and so it goes...

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Re: American Exceptionalism
Posted by: hy6PW ()
Date: March 16, 2014 09:06PM

huh? article didn't say what (kerry) did that might have been a threat.

they talk conservatism when they are cutting government. meaning the poor or private industry will double suffer

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the economy is what for who, it the total product frontier business cycle of material, organization, energy

conservatism often means less "what" for everyone

however you know 4 car garage mc mansions are being built here now by foreigners wiht usa money.

you know gov pay is going up

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simply put the economy cannot sustain wishful unchecked growth and reckless government (at law, at accounting, etc)

gov workers have poor marginal utility for material, organization and energy. they do not seek to meet demand. their "cusomers" are not willing buyers but pawns they point weapons at.

one does not give bean counters steaks and gold eye hoops, nor give kingly powers to any fool that plays king of the hill

and they know that

they were taught that

they are are playing push and shove gov

they laugh at risk they might be liable or held responsible

enough said

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Re: American Exceptionalism
Posted by: Debbie Downer Democrat XXXX ()
Date: March 16, 2014 09:11PM

Gerrymanderer2 Wrote:
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>
> Although your analysis isn't based in fact. If
> thats the case then why is your turbo button on as
> well? You're eager to get the old crooks back in
> is it?


Gerry, it is based on fact. The National debt has been growing and then put into "turbo" mode the past 5 years. That is fact. That is reality and doesn't take too much digging to see it.

And, no, the intent isn't to put the old crooks back in - but to get rid of McConnell, etc., but still take control of the senate with new members for the GOP.

The "Old crooks" you refer to will still be there for the most part - Reid, Schumer, etc.

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Re: American Exceptionalism
Posted by: JYubt ()
Date: March 16, 2014 09:21PM

you cannot play too close to the fire, tight on the wire. there has to be room for the economy to flip and flop

of course there are mistakes, liar, fools. where isn't there ?

if people do not have means to be productive because of stalling: you get a stalled economy

saying "well chinas factory output is high" doesn't solve what about people in USA stalled with nothing to do because of lack of supplies and workplaces

joe can't find $10 he has to get food stamps. if joe can't scrap together transportation joe can't work. nothing gets done.

over-expanding is a great way to cause stalling. so much more demand than supply everyone is stuck

now saying "that's fine. gov workers with get 3x the pay and kill the other half too poor to argue"

hmmmmm. is that so ?

well if one was raised by those rules maybe they'd be willing and in some way it would be fair

that is not the case in the USA at all

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Re: American Exceptionalism
Posted by: eLester ()
Date: March 16, 2014 09:48PM

Countries outside the US, EU, and Japan couldn't get away with the money printing to bail out their investors and still hold the borrowing nations feet by the fire. Ordinarily, the banks should be going into bankruptcy and the debts mostly written off as the banks are taken over by investors for pennies on the dollar. Greece, Spain, and Italy would have been far better off.

The same exceptionalism applies to pretending that the US and NATO are fighting terrorism.

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Re: American Exceptionalism
Posted by: Rockhound ()
Date: March 16, 2014 10:34PM

eLester Wrote:
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> Countries outside the US, EU, and Japan couldn't
> get away with the money printing to bail out their
> investors and still hold the borrowing nations
> feet by the fire. Ordinarily, the banks should be
> going into bankruptcy and the debts mostly written
> off as the banks are taken over by investors for
> pennies on the dollar. Greece, Spain, and Italy
> would have been far better off.
>
> The same exceptionalism applies to pretending that
> the US and NATO are fighting terrorism.


+1. Well said.

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Re: American Exceptionalism
Posted by: Z. Brzzyzyyyyzyyzyzyzznnnsskkki ()
Date: March 16, 2014 10:45PM

DrHenryKillinger Wrote:
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> Rockhound Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > This is the kind of propaganda they'll use for
> the
> > next couple years to gear people up for a
> > Republican president and a couple of new wars.
>
> It seems that might become a reality. I can't wait
> to see how quickly "fiscal conservatism" gets
> thrown out the window.

Hopefully the next Republican president's world view will stick around a bit longer than the "reset" and "leading from behind." Those will certainly go down in U.S. foreign policy history as jokes of the not-funny kind.

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Re: American Exceptionalism
Posted by: UUUUGLLGLLGLLG ()
Date: March 16, 2014 10:47PM

Gerrymanderer2 Wrote:
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> Debbie Downer Democrat XXXX Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Whether it goes for the Republican party or
> not,
> > we do have to realize that a big portion of
> > America has been thrown away for quite a few
> > decades now. It's just that over the past 5
> > years, the "turbo" button has been pressed and
> the
> > pace has been increased a bit.
> >

>
> Although your analysis isn't based in fact. If
> thats the case then why is your turbo button on as
> well? You're eager to get the old crooks back in
> is it?

Shouldn't you be picketing a synagogue of something? It's Purim. Now go away, racist antisemite fuck.

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Re: American Exceptionalism
Posted by: Rockhound ()
Date: March 16, 2014 10:50PM

Hussein Obama- you're a little bitch, trolling from all sides. You suck, dude. Grow a pair or STFU.

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Re: American Exceptionalism
Posted by: Mr.reality ()
Date: March 17, 2014 01:41AM

Meet the new crook, same as the old crook!

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Re: American Exceptionalism
Posted by: Debbie Downer Democrat XXXX ()
Date: March 17, 2014 06:05AM

eLester Wrote:
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> Countries outside the US, EU, and Japan couldn't
> get away with the money printing to bail out their
> investors and still hold the borrowing nations
> feet by the fire. Ordinarily, the banks should be
> going into bankruptcy and the debts mostly written
> off as the banks are taken over by investors for
> pennies on the dollar. Greece, Spain, and Italy
> would have been far better off.
>
> The same exceptionalism applies to pretending that
> the US and NATO are fighting terrorism.

I think I had heard about another country printing money last week. New Zealand? I need to check into it as it appears someone might have been taking a page from the U.S. by printing money.

Also, last week, China realized how much of a bind they are getting into and their country announced some of their industries would fail. If things get too tough in China, what's the chance of them calling in the debt that they're holding for the U.S.? Probably, quite likely.

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Re: American Exceptionalism
Posted by: dcuUc ()
Date: March 17, 2014 08:32AM

Debbie Downer Democrat XXXX Wrote:
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>
> Also, last week, China realized how much of a bind
> they are getting into and their country announced
> some of their industries would fail. If things
> get too tough in China, what's the chance of them
> calling in the debt that they're holding for the
> U.S.? Probably, quite likely.


The Chinese can't just "call in a debt". That's not the way the US debt works. They can sell the US debt that they hold (they are already doing this) to another party and get a portion of their money back, but they can't just say, "pay us all the money now". Even if they could call in the debt, the Fed would just have Treasury print more money and buy it back from them. The Fed and other US government & quasi-governmental organizations - including banks and investement houses being used as laundering shills (and thus we, the taxpayers) own most of the debt and that portion is getting bigger. Our kids and grandkids own our debt. The Chinese are bit players in that regard.

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Re: American Exceptionalism
Posted by: MYOB ()
Date: March 17, 2014 10:15AM

Exceptionalism = Buttinskyism

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