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Guys, if you get a chance in your 20's date a woman in her 40's or 50's
Posted by: older women know how to fuck ()
Date: March 05, 2014 11:43AM

Date an older woman. I promise you, it will be the best sex you EVER have.

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Re: Guys, if you get a chance in your 20's date a woman in her 40's or 50's
Posted by: COUGAR ATTACK ()
Date: March 05, 2014 11:46AM

Women love dating younger guys too. It's a win-win


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Don't call this woman a cougar. Her relationship is nothing like you would imagine. As told to Anna Davies, REDBOOK.

Mike* burst out laughing. The waiter hovering nearby followed suit. Meanwhile, I wanted to slide under the table and disappear. But not before I checked his ID. He was born in 1986; I was born in 1966. I'm about to turn 48; he's about to turn 28. And yet we're in love.

Three years ago, Mike and I met at a coworker's engagement party. I knew that the guests at the party were going to be younger than me; I work as an occupational therapist at a hospital and most of the coworkers I'm closest with are the ones in their 20s and early 30s. I've always tended to get along better with people a decade or so younger than me--peg it to my being single with no kids as well as a why not attitude that led me to spend my own 20s and 30s bouncing from guy to state to job.

At the party, I flirted with the handsome man making a rum and coke in the kitchen, asking if he could whip one up for me, too. He obliged, and as we clinked glasses, I guessed he was in his early 30s. It wasn't until the next day that my friend revealed he was only 25.

Still, when Mike and I went out for drinks, I barely thought about our age gap until our server asked for our IDs. Mike reached across the table to examine mine.
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"You were born in 1966? My mom was born in 1960. That's so weird."
Weird. The word rattled around in my head, even after he changed the subject to his upcoming marathon training. I couldn't focus on our conversation. The banter that had come so easily seemed stilted in the bar. I could have been his babysitter. I could be his mom, I thought.

Things got weirder. A week later, he invited me to join him and his friends for a hike, followed by a party. I said yes, but as soon as I got to the meet-up spot, I wanted to drive away. Everyone looked and seemed so young. It wasn't what they were wearing--I was wearing an athletic tank top and hiking pants, same as the other women--but they all seemed so carefree. I didn't know them personally, but I was pretty sure none of them had been divorced--which I had by time I was their age. I felt like the two additional decades of hard-won life experience created a wall between me and the group-and between Mike and me. I felt like a spy. Yes, I'd heard of Drake and Snapchat, but it wasn't my pop culture.

For the next six months, Mike and I were just friends. I made sure to regularly ask about whom he was dating, because I didn't want him to think I was interested. He would ask me to one-on-one dinners and drinks, and I'd suggest casual after-work beers instead. I was pretty sure I was going to spend the rest of my life alone, and I'd made my peace with that. I'd gone on enough dates that didn't lead anywhere--often with much more age-appropriate matches than Mike--and I just didn't see the point in pretending we were something we weren't. To me, it was much easier to make everything strictly between friends.
Things changed one night over beers at a favorite local bar when I finally said what I was afraid of: I was worried I'd screwed up my life, and that it was too late to change it.

Mike's eyes widened-and then he started revealing some deep stuff about himself, too. He told me about how his best friend had died in a drowning accident in college, and how much that tragedy still affected him, six years later. It was as if by getting to know me on my terms and proving he wanted me in his life as a friend, I'd finally felt comfortable enough to open up in a way I didn't with men I met in typical dating situations.

A few more conversations like that and Mike and I became a couple. Or at least other people assumed we were a couple. It took almost six months before I got used to calling him my boyfriend, even as I was surprised by how little people cared. Sure, my friends made a lot of cougar jokes. I occasionally get a side-eye from a bartender when we're both asked for ID. But in general, people don't dwell on our age difference. Two years later, Mike and I are definitely a couple--we live together and we're deeply in love. Even his mother approves of us, saying that Mike has always been one to follow his heart. And my parents are supportive as well. My dad has no idea how old Mike is, and while my mom knows he's younger, she's never asked for details. But they've seen how skittish I am about romance, so I think they're just happy that I'm happy.

That doesn't mean problems don't crop up. Mike and I are facing different realities. Although he says having children isn't important to him and that he'd still feel fulfilled without kids, I don't believe him.
That's actually one of our biggest fights--and where the age-difference thing comes out in full force. When I tell him Mike he can't know if he wants children, he thinks I'm being condescending and close-minded. Maybe I am. But I went back and forth on the kids thing so many times in my 30s that I don't want him to shut a door he may want to open in the future.

We've discussed marriage, but always in the abstract--like when we went to one of his friend's weddings, we imagined what our ceremony would look like. We talk in terms of a permanent "we"--we should buy a house, we want to live by the ocean at some point in our lives. That said, while I know our love is real, because of the age difference and kids question, we're both skittish about talking about the future in definite terms. I don't know if we'll be together in five years. But I am also finally okay with not knowing--I know it's enough for today that he and I love each other. Mike showed me that.

Although it's cliché, he loves like he can't get hurt, and seeing that has taught me a lesson I needed to learn. I got married in my early 20s and divorced a few years later. My experience, plus being friends with so many divorced women, has made me skeptical about love. I used to think of it as this be-all, end-all--you either had the happily-ever-after or it would never work out. But being in an in-between state with Mike--I very much love him, yet understand that neither of us knows our ending--has made it increasingly clear that love isn't that simple. It's about appreciating the moment, not taking a cozy night in for granted, and not letting the time we do have pass us by.

He's always the one to suggest heading out to the mountains for an all-weekend hike. We adopted a dog together, which was a really big deal for me. Whenever I thought about getting a pet, I'd always think, What if I moved? What if I couldn't take care of it? What if, what if, what if? Mike helped me realize that none of those questions mattered--yes, it was good to know we could take care of her and had some stability, but that we'd always figure out a way to make things work.
In general, he's good at making things work in a way that always surprises me. He wants to try new recipes, fix the backsplash in the kitchen, and invite friends over to make cocktails from the contents of the liquor cabinet. I don't want to make it sound like he's an overgrown frat boy--he's not--but he does see the fun in life, whereas I tend to get bogged down in details.

AND THE SEX IS AMAZING. I'm way more comfortable with my body than I was when I was younger. If you think about it, both of us are in our sexual primes, so it's actually an excellent match. Mike's willing to experiment, and I'm willing to really let go--he loves seeing me let loose, and I love showing him that side of myself.

Bottom line: Mike and I are a great fit, because, it turns out, love comes in surprising packages and doesn't follow some one-size-fits-all path. Mostly, loving Mike has made me fall more deeply in love with my own life.
Recently, Mike and I went to dinner at my friend Karen's house. She and her husband have been married for 23 years, and they have a great relationship. While we there, Mike suggested that Karen's husband bring out his guitar, and we all sat around the table singing songs. It sounds hokey, but it was reminiscent of the low-key way we used to hang out in our 20s. We'd since forgotten that sometimes you have to stop thinking about past regrets or things you should do and just enjoy the music--even if it's just for an evening. It's like that in a relationship too.

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Re: Guys, if you get a chance in your 20's date a woman in her 40's or 50's
Posted by: Tan Cougar ()
Date: March 05, 2014 12:27PM

Patricia Krentcil aka the Tanning mom is 45. - right in the recommended age range to be in her sexual prime and she puts effort into her appearance. Go for it lads.


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Re: Guys, if you get a chance in your 20's date a woman in her 40's or 50's
Posted by: Two bagger ()
Date: March 05, 2014 12:52PM

Tan Cougar Wrote:
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> Patricia Krentcil aka the Tanning mom is 45. -
> right in the recommended age range to be in her
> sexual prime and she puts effort into her
> appearance. Go for it lads.
>
>

One for her and one for you in case hers falls off. Even then a fifth of Jack likely required.

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Re: Guys, if you get a chance in your 20's date a woman in her 40's or 50's
Posted by: Wrectum.Wrecker ()
Date: March 05, 2014 02:04PM

I would agree that as a younger man it was very beneficial hooking up (never dating) an older woman. With one caveat...

If you're setting your sights on a woman between 40 and 50, find out if she's had any kids. If she has...assuming they were naturals and not Caesarians, no matter how big your dick is, it's going to feel like chucking a hot dog down a hallway.

Oh...and the only woman that should EVER see where you live...is your wife. If you're on her turf, you give her the illusion she's in control and comfortable because she's in familiar surroundings. But, in reality...you have the control. You don't have to ask her to leave when you're done cock-stabbing her and then have a big emotional, drawn out conversation about it. Drop your load...kiss her goodnight, get dressed, out the door, fire up the BMW (you live in NOVA, right?) and you're gone.

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Re: Guys, if you get a chance in your 20's date a woman in her 40's or 50's
Posted by: one-sided ()
Date: March 05, 2014 02:32PM

No mention of menopause.


"I work as an occupational therapist at a hospital and most of the coworkers I'm closest with are the ones in their 20s and early 30s."

She's not exactly in a position that would be financially beneficial to a younger partner.

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Re: Guys, if you get a chance in your 20's date a woman in her 40's or 50's
Posted by: eLester ()
Date: March 05, 2014 04:45PM

Hot or not?




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Re: Guys, if you get a chance in your 20's date a woman in her 40's or 50's
Posted by: Truth! ()
Date: March 17, 2014 01:37AM

http://www.malaysia-chronicle.com/index.php?option=com_k2&view=item&id=245212:she-was-60-i-was-23-we-had-the-best-sex-i’d-ever-had&Itemid=4#axzz2wC86Eqxj

All the elements of a textbook cosy couple’s night in were in place. The pair were curled up together on the sofa, limbs entwined with the casual ease of long-term lovers. Dinner was a simple affair: steak and vegetables, followed by a tub of Ben and Jerry’s ice cream with two spoons. The wine was a bottle of Zinfandel – her favourite.

Only the couple’s choice of entertainment hinted at the extraordinary nature of their relationship.

They were watching a DVD of The Graduate, the classic tale of an affair between a young man and the older woman who seduces him.

But even Mrs Robinson – who was 20 years older than her lover Benjamin in the film – might have been shocked by the age gap of the pair watching. The subjects of this romantic liaison were a 60-year-old grandmother and her lover, a baby-faced 23-year-old fresh from university.


In her memoirs, journalist Monica Porter, reveals how she slept with 15 younger men in a year, 11 of which were in their 20s and 30s


Tom, who asked to remain anonymous to protect his career and family, lifts the lid on his affair with Monica

The woman was Monica Porter, whose sensational memoir about having sex with 15 men, most in their 20s and 30s, attracted tens of thousands of internet hits and made front page news as far afield as Turkey and Malaysia when it was featured in The Mail on Sunday a fortnight ago.

The young man was Tom, a handsome 6ft 2in accountant who is now telling his own story of their remarkable nine-month affair, which was by far the most serious of all Monica’s assignations.

with whom she enjoyed encounters, he was attracted to her experience, confidence and willingness to indulge in ‘no-strings’ sex – an approach which prompted some critics to brand her ‘sad’ and ‘desperate.’


The Mail on Sunday has agreed to keep the identity of Tom a secret to protect his family and career, but when it comes to his relationship with Monica, he is utterly unabashed.

‘We always knew it wasn’t a conventional relationship, but it was something which made us both very happy at the time,’ he says.

‘The sex was the most passionate I’ve ever had. It was different from sex with girls my own age. She was more experienced and she knew what she wanted. She was comfortable in her own body and more confident about being naked than younger girls, and I found that very attractive.

‘But it wasn’t just about sex; we clicked, and it had nothing to do with age. Most of the time we spent together was just like any normal couple. We talked about everything, from books and films to work and politics. I found her more interesting than anyone I’d ever met. She enjoyed educating me, and I enjoyed it too.’

Monica’s memoir, My Year Of Dating Dangerously, has thrown a spotlight on encounters between 50-plus women and twentysomething men.

While they might remain a taboo in today’s society – as evidenced by an outpouring of disapproval – it appears they are a growing trend of which Tom is just a small part.

With mature women remaining youthful in appearance and attitude for longer than ever before, and many emerging from long-term relationships in search of adventure, such ‘May to December’ pairings are growing increasingly common.

For the women, as Monica has pointed out, men in their 20s offer excitement, strong young bodies and no emotional baggage.

For the young men, the idea of being initiated into adult pleasures by an experienced older woman has long been a common fantasy.

However, it seems that many more are now making it a reality, aided by the internet. Indeed, a recent survey showed that 34 per cent of women over 40 have dated younger men.

As Tom explains, the appeal of a woman of Monica’s age is her lack of inhibitions compared to younger women, coupled with the fact that, having often been married and with grown-up children, she is not looking for commitment.

And he is far from alone. The Mail on Sunday has also spoken to two other men in their early 20s who had brief encounters with Monica, along with other older women. They both echoed Tom’s sentiments about mature women’s relaxed attitudes and skill in bed, and said that when they told their friends about their experiences, they were met with hearty approval.

Mark, a 21-year-old who met Monica through Tinder, says: ‘I’ve been with six or seven older women and I have friends who have had similar experiences. Older women are much more interesting and sophisticated than girls my age, and their experience makes them sexy.’

However, when Tom first met Monica, in April 2013 on a mainstream internet dating site, he says he was not seeking an affair with an older woman. Originally from the North, he had lived in London for two years after finishing his degree at a top university, where he’d had his only serious relationship with a girl his age. He went online to search for love.

‘I was looking for a girlfriend,’ says Tom, a highly articulate young man who chooses his words with care. ‘I certainly didn’t have any expectation that Monica was what I was looking for, although I did know I liked older women.’

He had had three previous encounters with older women, although they were in their 30s rather than 50s. One woman was 12 years older. He hoped she might become a genuine partner, but it ended when she moved away.

‘I’ve always preferred the company of people older than me – I don’t know why. Perhaps it’s because I’m an only child and close to my parents; I’m used to talking to older people,’ he says. ‘I find I usually don’t have very much in common with girls my age. They’re always talking about celebrity gossip which I’m not at all interested in. I can’t contribute anything. I don’t watch a lot of TV and I’m not interested in going out and getting smashed in nightclubs.’

Tom first spotted Monica on the website when he received an alert to say she had looked at his profile.

'The sex was the most passionate I’ve ever had. It was different from sex with girls my own age. She was more experienced and she knew what she wanted'

- Tom on his nine-month affair with Monica


Tom and Monica's choice of entertainment hinted at the unconventional nature of their relationship. The pair would watch The Graduate, starring Dustin Hoffman and Anne Bancroft, in a tale of Mrs Robinson seducing Benjamin, who is 20 years younger than her

‘I looked at hers, and saw she was very attractive,’ he says. ‘She looked younger than 54, which was the age she gave on the site.
'I wasn’t freaked out by her age – I was intrigued. Her profile was well-written, and I wondered if she’d checked me out because she liked younger men. I had a moment of over-confidence and sent her a message.’

The pair met at Monica’s local pub later that same day. His first impressions of her were very positive, but he didn’t anticipate what would follow.

‘The photo didn’t lie – she was very good-looking, and she’d clearly made an effort with her appearance,’ he says. ‘I hadn’t really had time to think about what might happen. It was all quite impulsive.

'But we hit it off very quickly and the conversation flowed, which surprised me. We talked about our jobs and she told me she was a writer, which was fascinating. I asked a lot of questions about the articles and books she’d written and the people she’d met.

'She asked me questions, too, but I was aware I couldn’t give the same sort of answers because I’ve experienced so much less than her.’

After a few drinks – three pints of beer for him, two glasses of white wine for her – they went back to Monica’s spacious house in a private cul-de-sac in a leafy, residential part of London. After a cup of tea, he took her hands and told her they could do whatever she liked.

They headed to the bedroom. Tom says that although the age difference was starkly apparent when they were exchanging stories about their lives, in bed it wasn’t an issue.

‘The sex was great and I don’t think either of us thought about the age gap at all,’ he says. ‘She had a fantastic body and she was uninhibited compared to girls my age, who are often shy about taking their clothes off. It was extremely passionate. We just seemed to be very compatible. I stayed the night and we were very affectionate and tender with one another.

‘It wasn’t just sex without feelings. One of my friends referred to us as ‘f*** buddies’, but that doesn’t describe our relationship because it implies there was no emotional attachment.

'There was. We cared for one another. We knew we’d never have a conventional relationship. I knew we’d never live together and that I’d never meet her family. But it was still a relationship of sorts.’

'She enjoyed educating me, and I enjoyed it too'

- Tom, 23, dated Monica, 61, for nine months


Tom, 23, met Monica (pictured at the age of 20) on a dating site. They exchanged messages and later met in her local pub. He said: 'We hit it off very quickly and the conversation flowed, which surprised me'

Tom and Monica met on around 15 occasions over a nine-month period. The pattern was always the same: he would take the Tube to her house, where they would talk, watch films, eat healthy dinners of fish or steak cooked by her and retire to bed.
Tom is undoubtedly a more serious, contemplative character than most men his age, but nevertheless, it is his youth which strikes you upon meeting him.

There’s an air of innocence about him, and he admits his relationship with Monica often took on a student and teacher aspect.

‘We talked about everything from politics and history to films and literature,’ he says. ‘She gave me a couple of her books to read.

'She couldn’t believe I hadn’t read The Catcher In The Rye or The Great Gatsby. She talked a lot about them, but I must admit I still haven’t read either. I should get on to it.

‘One day Sweet Caroline came on the radio and Monica was amused that I’d never heard of Neil Diamond. I’d heard his music before, but he’s not my era.

'She tested my cultural knowledge by asking me if I knew who the drummer in the Beatles was – I didn’t. I do now, though.

‘We watched TV together a lot, mostly current affairs comedy programmes like QI and Have I Got News For You. We often watched Breaking Bad, which we both loved.

'And once we watched The Graduate. I think it was us making light of our situation, although again Monica was surprised I hadn’t seen it before because it’s a classic.

‘I remember joking to her that she was much nicer than Mrs Robinson. In the film Ben feels trapped by her and doesn’t really enjoy being with her, so our situation was very different.’

It might sound like a young man far from home and enjoying being pampered by a mother substitute, but Tom insists that wasn’t the case.



‘It wasn’t like that at all,’ he says. ‘Mostly it was just like an average couple staying in on a Saturday night.’

The pair would arrange their liaisons whenever they were both free.

‘We wouldn’t go out of our way to make time for each other, but when we did have time to meet, I’d look forward to seeing her for four or five days beforehand,’ he says.

He told few people about Monica and kept their relationship from his family. ‘My mum is the same age as Monica is now – 61 – so I think she would find it very weird,’ he says.

He shared his secret with a select couple of trusted friends. ‘They were supportive about it. I think being attracted to older women is very common. Every guy I know has joked about it at some point – but maybe they don’t have the confidence to act on it like I did.’

The affair came to a conclusion when he entered a particularly busy period at work and no longer had time to see Monica. By the time this ended, her former partner had moved back into her house for financial reasons, which brought her year of dating to an end.

‘There was no conversation in which we officially ended things, so I didn’t really think of it as definitively over until a few weeks ago, when I met someone else,’ Tom says. ‘She’s 26, and I met her online. The difference between my relationship with her and the one with Monica is that our lives are similar.’

He says he kept in touch with Monica with the occasional text message, but he had no idea she was writing about her experiences until a friend told him about the extract of her book in The Mail on Sunday.

‘I contacted her straight away,’ he says. ‘I wanted to make sure what she’d written was nice, and that I was anonymous, and once she’d reassured me I was fine about it. I wasn’t particularly surprised – she is a writer, after all. Hearing people in my office discussing it has been strange, but I don’t mind.’

'Older women are much more interesting and sophisticated than girls my age, and their experience makes them sexy'


He was, however, slightly taken aback when he discovered he was not the only young man Monica had been meeting. ‘I thought she probably would be seeing others, but I was surprised by the number,’ he says.

‘I’m pleased that it seems she’s written that what she had with me was more significant than what she had with the others, which were mostly one-night stands. Obviously, I’ll have to read the book to find out exactly what she’s said.’

That wasn’t the only surprise. It was not until a fortnight ago that he discovered her true age. He had thought she was 54, as she stated on her dating site profile. ‘With hindsight, the clues were there that she was older – I knew the age of her two sons – but I didn’t think about it,’ he says. ‘It doesn’t matter to me.’

Although he understands why their pairing would be considered controversial, he does not understand the fierce criticism Monica has received. ‘When I remember my time with Monica in the future, I’ll think of it as nothing but a positive experience,’ he says.

‘I don’t get why anybody’s attacking her for it. It made us happy and nobody got hurt. I learned a lot, and I made a friend.’

'My mum is the same age as Monica is now - 61 - so I think she would find it very weird. Every guy I know has joked about it at some point - but maybe they don't have the confidence to act on it like I did'

- Tom on telling his family and friends -Dailymail



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Re: Guys, if you get a chance in your 20's date a woman in her 40's or 50's
Posted by: Monica Porter ()
Date: March 17, 2014 01:45AM


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Re: Guys, if you get a chance in your 20's date a woman in her 40's or 50's
Posted by: Hank Moody ()
Date: March 17, 2014 08:01AM

Tinder is fucking awesome.

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Re: Guys, if you get a chance in your 20's date a woman in her 40's or 50's
Posted by: Fred Garvin ()
Date: March 17, 2014 08:30AM

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Re: Guys, if you get a chance in your 20's date a woman in her 40's or 50's
Posted by: faggotry ()
Date: March 11, 2021 09:30PM

Hank Moody Wrote:
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> Tinder is fucking awesome.

You keep hitting up other men for sex...

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Re: Guys, if you get a chance in your 20's date a woman in her 40's or 50's
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Date: March 12, 2021 06:58AM

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Re: Guys, if you get a chance in your 20's date a woman in her 40's or 50's
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Date: March 12, 2021 06:27PM

older women know how to fuck Wrote:
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> Date an older woman. I promise you, it will be
> the best sex you EVER have.

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Re: Guys, if you get a chance in your 20's date a woman in her 40's or 50's
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Date: March 12, 2021 07:06PM

older women know how to fuck Wrote:
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> Date an older woman. I promise you, it will be
> the best sex you EVER have.

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