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Why do Republicans keep claiming “religious freedom” as a reason to discriminate?
Posted by: Annonomeister ()
Date: May 19, 2016 08:54AM

WASHINGTON — "The House passed a massive National Defense Authorization Act late Wednesday, and tucked inside of it, a provision that would allow federal contractors to fire employees for being lesbian, gay, bisexual or transgender.

The language, slipped into the bill by Rep. Steve Russell (R-Okla.), would dismantle President Barack Obama’s 2014 executive action that makes it illegal for government contractors to fire or harass employees based on their sexual orientation or gender identity. In its place, Russell’s provision applies a broad exemption that would open the door to contractors discriminating against LGBT people based on that contractor’s religious beliefs.

The government awards more than 2,000 contracts to religious organizations every year. Russell’s measure would affect every grant, contract and purchase order made by every federal agency, including contracts with hospitals, homeless shelters, colleges, schools, domestic violence shelters, and adoption agencies.

The House passed the 1,299-page bill, 277 to 147, with 142 Democrats and five Republicans opposed. At least one congressman, Rep. Mark Takano (D-Calif.), opposed it purely because of the anti-LGBT provision.

Russell attached the language to the bill a few weeks ago, during a late-night House Armed Services Committee hearing. He argued that it’s needed to clarify what he said was confusion in Obama’s executive order over what kinds of legal protections are afforded to religious contractors. He also said Obama’s order violates the First Amendment because it “unduly burdens the practice of religion.”

But Rep. Adam Smith (D-Wash.), the ranking Democrat on that committee, said that’s not what Obama’s executive order does at all. “The way this amendment is written, it doesn’t matter if you’re a religious organization,” Smith responded. “Basically, you can be a private contractor, and this basically gives you the right to discriminate if you just decide that you don’t want to do business with gay people.”

Democratic leaders denounced the provision in the hours leading up to the vote. Minority Whip Steny Hoyer (Md.) said he was “outraged,” and Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi (Calif.) called it “stunning” that Republicans would use a defense bill to “codify hatred and intolerance against Americans based on their sexual orientation or gender identity.”

Some Republicans weren’t happy about it, either. Rep. Charlie Dent (R-Pa.) tried to strip it from the bill during a Rules Committee hearing earlier this week. But the committee chairman, Pete Sessions (R-Texas), denied his request.

The bill now heads to the Senate, which has its own ideas about what belongs — and what doesn’t — in an annual defense bill. Senators will hash out differences with the House later in a conference committee.
Obama has already threatened to veto the House bill and gave a long list of reasons why, including problems ranging from misuse of funds and operating the prison at Guantanamo Bay, to military pay raises and base closures. White House press secretary Josh Earnest said Tuesday that he couldn’t single out any one item, such as the anti-LGBT provision, as grounds for a veto.

“There are a whole lot of reasons why the bill is bad,” Earnest said in his daily briefing. “It’s unfortunate that it is being larded up with a bunch of proposals ... that aren’t related to our national security but are intended to be divisive.”

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Re: Why do Republicans keep claiming “religious freedom” as a reason to discriminate?
Posted by: Numbers ()
Date: May 19, 2016 09:25AM

Because many hard core, right wingers actually believe the fantasy that they can take the USA back to an imaginary golden age of the 50's, where everyone was white, straight and christian.

Everyone had a single family home with a white picket fence with 2 kids and a dog. Of course, women stayed home or only worked on assembly lines, were secretly beaten and had no say in anything.

There was a perpetual war against some un-human country(s) and God was always on our side. Minorities were frowned upon, pushed into ghettos, denied voting, education and only used as comedy relief. Gays and trannies didn't exist because anyone suspected would be sterilized or euthanized.

There was no environment back in the golden age. Factories could pump massive amounts of toxins into the air and everything was just fine. There was no need for solar or wind power because it was better to just dig and burn up all the coal, tear down the never ending forests and dump all of our waste into the rivers.

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Re: Why do Republicans keep claiming “religious freedom” as a reason to discriminate?
Posted by: No ()
Date: May 19, 2016 09:28AM

Numbers Wrote:
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> Because many hard core, right wingers actually
> believe the fantasy that they can take the USA
> back to an imaginary golden age of the 50's, where
> everyone was white, straight and christian.
>
> Everyone had a single family home with a white
> picket fence with 2 kids and a dog. Of course,
> women stayed home or only worked on assembly
> lines, were secretly beaten and had no say in
> anything.
>
> There was a perpetual war against some un-human
> country(s) and God was always on our side.
> Minorities were frowned upon, pushed into ghettos,
> denied voting, education and only used as comedy
> relief. Gays and trannies didn't exist because
> anyone suspected would be sterilized or
> euthanized.
>
> There was no environment back in the golden age.
> Factories could pump massive amounts of toxins
> into the air and everything was just fine. There
> was no need for solar or wind power because it was
> better to just dig and burn up all the coal, tear
> down the never ending forests and dump all of our
> waste into the rivers.


Just don't want mentally ill trannies showering with our daughters.

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Re: Why do Republicans keep claiming “religious freedom” as a reason to discriminate?
Posted by: Dumbass hicks from the GOP ()
Date: May 19, 2016 09:37AM

It's these dopey teabagger rednecks. There was a time in america when simply being born white & christian meant you belonged to a class that held all the political power. That's slowly changed over the past 50 years, and it makes them very angry that they have such a diminished control over society. This makes them feel threatened and hostile toward others.

That's why you see all the racist retards on the internet and people like Trump a and Palin being heroes.

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Re: Why do Republicans keep claiming “religious freedom” as a reason to discriminate?
Posted by: No ()
Date: May 19, 2016 09:50AM

Dumbass hicks from the GOP Wrote:
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> It's these dopey teabagger rednecks. There was a
> time in america when simply being born white &
> christian meant you belonged to a class that held
> all the political power. That's slowly changed
> over the past 50 years, and it makes them very
> angry that they have such a diminished control
> over society. This makes them feel threatened and
> hostile toward others.
>
> That's why you see all the racist retards on the
> internet and people like Trump a and Palin being
> heroes.

Just don't want mentally ill trannies showering with our daughters.

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Re: Why do Republicans keep claiming “religious freedom” as a reason to discriminate?
Posted by: yC7hC ()
Date: May 19, 2016 10:17AM

Actually, everyone had 2.4 children.

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Re: Why do Republicans keep claiming “religious freedom” as a reason to discriminate?
Posted by: WTFWTFWTFWTFWTF ()
Date: May 19, 2016 10:22AM

OK, so can you show us the language that was supposedly put in the bill?

I'm not going by some third-hand article that tells us what to believe.

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Re: Why do Republicans keep claiming “religious freedom” as a reason to discriminate?
Posted by: WTFWTFWTFWTFWTF ()
Date: May 19, 2016 10:25AM

Huffington Post or Muckrack article not citing the specific complaint and the language? Really? Get real.

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Re: Why do Republicans keep claiming “religious freedom” as a reason to discriminate?
Posted by: YXkHK ()
Date: May 19, 2016 11:20AM

Homosexuality is a disorder and shouldn't be celebrated and catered to.

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Re: Why do Republicans keep claiming “religious freedom” as a reason to discriminate?
Posted by: FTWFTWFTWFTWFTWFTWFTWFTWFTWFTW ()
Date: May 19, 2016 12:50PM

WTFWTFWTFWTFWTF Wrote:
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> OK, so can you show us the language that was
> supposedly put in the bill?

WTFWTFWTFWTFWTF Wrote:
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> Huffington Post or Muckrack article not citing
> the specific complaint and the language? Really?
> Get real.

http://docs.house.gov/meetings/AS/AS00/20160427/104832/BILLS-114-HR4909-R000604-Amdt-232r2.pdf

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Re: Why do Republicans keep claiming “religious freedom” as a reason to discriminate?
Posted by: Sharky8 ()
Date: May 19, 2016 01:01PM

Numbers Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Because many hard core, right wingers actually
> believe the fantasy that they can take the USA
> back to an imaginary golden age of the 50's, where
> everyone was white, straight and christian.
>
> Everyone had a single family home with a white
> picket fence with 2 kids and a dog. Of course,
> women stayed home or only worked on assembly
> lines, were secretly beaten and had no say in
> anything.
>
> There was a perpetual war against some un-human
> country(s) and God was always on our side.
> Minorities were frowned upon, pushed into ghettos,
> denied voting, education and only used as comedy
> relief. Gays and trannies didn't exist because
> anyone suspected would be sterilized or
> euthanized.
>
> There was no environment back in the golden age.
> Factories could pump massive amounts of toxins
> into the air and everything was just fine. There
> was no need for solar or wind power because it was
> better to just dig and burn up all the coal, tear
> down the never ending forests and dump all of our
> waste into the rivers.

It's not hard to imagine people who Believe in God might disagree with people who do not on a lot of issues.

Absolute Truth is something the Bible speaks of. God made mankind in HIS imagine; Male and Female, He made them."

vs.

There is no God -- do or "be" what you feel like doing or "being" since what's right for you, isn't necessarily right for me -- there is no absolute truth ,, nobody is going to tell me what's right or wrong OR True or False -- I'll decide that for MYSELF!

Since Most LGBT community folks do NOT have kids and since they hold different values and beliefs than the majority in this country -- who would think that the reaction to all of this is "UNUSUAL"

If you want to be intellectually honest about this subject you might admit that it is not just the Republicans or Republican parents who have trouble with things like privacy for their daughters and sons in the most private of situations; using the bathroom, changing clothes or showering.

Plenty of Democrat and Independent parents too have shown outrage at the directive given by POTUS.

Call it what you want -- this is my POV.

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Re: Why do Republicans keep claiming “religious freedom” as a reason to discriminate?
Date: May 19, 2016 02:37PM

Sharky8 Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> It's not hard to imagine people who Believe in God
> might disagree with people who do not on a lot of
> issues.
>
> Absolute Truth is something the Bible speaks of.
> God made mankind in HIS imagine; Male and Female,
> He made them."
>
> vs.
>
> There is no God -- do or "be" what you feel like
> doing or "being" since what's right for you, isn't
> necessarily right for me -- there is no absolute
> truth ,, nobody is going to tell me what's right
> or wrong OR True or False -- I'll decide that for
> MYSELF!
>
> Since Most LGBT community folks do NOT have kids
> and since they hold different values and beliefs
> than the majority in this country -- who would
> think that the reaction to all of this is
> "UNUSUAL"
>
> If you want to be intellectually honest about this
> subject you might admit that it is not just the
> Republicans or Republican parents who have trouble
> with things like privacy for their daughters and
> sons in the most private of situations; using the
> bathroom, changing clothes or showering.
>
> Plenty of Democrat and Independent parents too
> have shown outrage at the directive given by
> POTUS.
>
> Call it what you want -- this is my POV.

Is not believing in God, believing that the Bible is God’s word, just as much of a choice as denying the existence of a deity?

BTW, LBGTQ people are being who they are, not who they ‘want’ to be.

Many assume the sexuality of LBGTQ people is a ‘choice’, while they consider heterosexuality to be incontrovertible. How can that be true?



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 05/19/2016 02:38PM by The Voice of Reason.

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Re: Why do Republicans keep claiming “religious freedom” as a reason to discriminate?
Posted by: Lol. Are you mad? ()
Date: May 19, 2016 03:48PM

Numbers Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Because many hard core, right wingers actually
> believe the fantasy that they can take the USA
> back to an imaginary golden age of the 50's, where
> everyone was white, straight and christian.
>

That way of life built the highest standard of living the world has ever known. Do you really want it to end? Do you think non-White based living standards will give you and your alternative lifestyle friends a free pass? Lolz! It will be a bloodbath in the streets. In short, if you fight against 'Right Wing' Christian founded beliefs, you are fighting against the civilized world.


>Gays and trannies didn't exist because
> anyone suspected would be sterilized or
> euthanized.

This is an excellent idea.

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Re: Why do Republicans keep claiming “religious freedom” as a reason to discriminate?
Posted by: Conserva-tards! ()
Date: May 19, 2016 04:11PM

Lol. Are you mad? Wrote:
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> That way of life built the highest standard of
> living the world has ever known. Do you really
> want it to end?

All I hear from conserva-tards is moaning & whining about how that 'way of life' has been over since Reagan left 1600. So which is it?

> In short, if you fight against 'Right Wing'
> Christian founded beliefs, you are fighting
> against the civilized world.

Ha! Now that is some funny shit!

Conserva-tards!

Lolz!

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Re: Why do Republicans keep claiming “religious freedom” as a reason to discriminate?
Posted by: Islam says... ()
Date: May 19, 2016 04:23PM

Gays bounce.

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Re: Why do Republicans keep claiming “religious freedom” as a reason to discriminate?
Posted by: Lol at the Libtards! ()
Date: May 19, 2016 04:28PM

Conserva-tards! Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Lol. Are you mad? Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > That way of life built the highest standard of
> > living the world has ever known. Do you really
> > want it to end?
>
> All I hear from conserva-tards is moaning &
> whining about how that 'way of life' has been over
> since Reagan left 1600. So which is it?
>
> > In short, if you fight against 'Right Wing'
> > Christian founded beliefs, you are fighting
> > against the civilized world.
>
> Ha! Now that is some funny shit!
>
> Conserva-tards!
>
> Lolz!


Ha! Prove it wrong. Good luck with your google search!

Libtards...Lolz!

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Re: Why do Republicans keep claiming “religious freedom” as a reason to discriminate?
Posted by: Hussein is a muslim name ()
Date: May 19, 2016 04:34PM

Obama's religion throws gays off buildings and jas children stone them to death but God forbid keeping mentally ill, sexually deviant predators out of the work place.

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Re: Why do Republicans keep claiming “religious freedom” as a reason to discriminate?
Posted by: Conserva-tards! ()
Date: May 19, 2016 04:37PM

Lol at the Libtards! Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> > Ha! Prove it wrong. Good luck with your google
> search!

Prove you're right, you stupid fuckin' moke.

'Tards gonna 'tard!

Conserva-tards!

LoLz!

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Re: Why do Republicans keep claiming “religious freedom” as a reason to discriminate?
Posted by: F.O.F. ()
Date: May 19, 2016 04:38PM

Hussein is a muslim name Wrote:
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> Obama's religion throws gays off buildings and jas
> children stone them to death but God forbid
> keeping mentally ill, sexually deviant predators
> out of the work place.

That's stupid.

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Re: Why do Republicans keep claiming “religious freedom” as a reason to discriminate?
Posted by: Lol at the libtard. Haha! ()
Date: May 19, 2016 07:01PM

Conserva-tards! Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Lol at the Libtards! Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > > Ha! Prove it wrong. Good luck with your
> google
> > search!
>
> Prove you're right, you stupid fuckin' moke.
>
> 'Tards gonna 'tard!
>
> Conserva-tards!
>
> LoLz!


Prove it? LMFAO Every White built country is considered 1st world, and have the highest standards and have the highest quality of life. This is the reason that non-Whites flood to America, and other White built counties. Correct me if I'm wrong, but their is no exodus of White people into non-White regions, you dumb fucking homosexual. I laugh at what non-Whites do to your kind. Sexual perverts are often castraited and tossed off of buildings. Lolz!

Like I said, prove it wrong butt plugger.

libtards...

Lolz!

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Re: Why do Republicans keep claiming “religious freedom” as a reason to discriminate?
Posted by: Yes ()
Date: May 19, 2016 07:06PM

No Wrote:
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> Just don't want mentally ill trannies showering
> with our daughters.


It's well known that if a girl showers within 21.6 ft of a transgendered person, that girl will instantly grow three penises and a Hitler mustache and then run out and burn a flag. I've seen it happen.

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Re: Why do Republicans keep claiming “religious freedom” as a reason to discriminate?
Posted by: Conserva-tards! ()
Date: May 19, 2016 07:14PM

Lol at the libtard. Haha! Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Prove it?

Yes. Are you having trouble understanding what I've written? Is English not your native tongue?

While it's nice that you've chosen to share your opinions with use, they are not proof.

Please try again.

Conserva-tards!

LoLz!

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Re: Why do Republicans keep claiming “religious freedom” as a reason to discriminate?
Posted by: Fat~Bottom~Girl ()
Date: May 19, 2016 07:15PM

Yes Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> No Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
>
> > Just don't want mentally ill trannies showering
> > with our daughters.
>
> It's well known that if a girl showers within 21.6
> ft of a transgendered person, that girl will
> instantly grow three penises and a Hitler mustache
> and then run out and burn a flag. I've seen it
> happen.

+1

lol.

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Re: Why do Republicans keep claiming “religious freedom” as a reason to discriminate?
Posted by: Wondering Wonderer ()
Date: May 19, 2016 07:46PM

Sharky8 Wrote:
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"If God made mankind in HIS imagine; Male and Female,
He made them."

Well God made LGBT folks too I guess.

Anyway, if God made us all in his image - why aren't we all invisible like God?

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Re: Why do Republicans keep claiming “religious freedom” as a reason to discriminate?
Posted by: Lol at the Libtards! ()
Date: May 19, 2016 09:16PM

Conserva-tards! Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Lol at the libtard. Haha! Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Prove it?
>
> Yes. Are you having trouble understanding what
> I've written? Is English not your native tongue?
>
> While it's nice that you've chosen to share your
> opinions with use, they are not proof.
>
> Please try again.

>
> Conserva-tards!
>
> LoLz!


It was proven in my last response. Do you not comprehend English? What do you not understand? Are all Libtards as dumb as you?

Libtards...

Lolz!

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