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Kia Auto
Posted by:
La'Kia Jackson
()
Date: May 15, 2015 10:01PM
Anyone here have experience with any KIA cars, 2012'ish to present? I'm considering buying a 2015 that looks very nice, drives well...but is still a goddamn Kia.
I know Hyundai has come a long way, and they're the same company, but I'm having trouble getting the idea that this is a turd dressed in a pretty outfit out of my head.
Obviously we're not going to get a durability report in a 2015, and the "reassurance" of a 10/100k warranty is nice, but doesn't detract from the fact that it will be a huge hassle if this car regularly takes a shit in me.
Just trying to see if anyone has any semi-recent experience.
I know Hyundai has come a long way, and they're the same company, but I'm having trouble getting the idea that this is a turd dressed in a pretty outfit out of my head.
Obviously we're not going to get a durability report in a 2015, and the "reassurance" of a 10/100k warranty is nice, but doesn't detract from the fact that it will be a huge hassle if this car regularly takes a shit in me.
Just trying to see if anyone has any semi-recent experience.
Re: Kia Auto
Posted by:
Kia the new toyota
()
Date: May 15, 2015 10:42PM
Solid cars, wife's 2010 forte is as reliable as her past Camry and way more reliable than my 335i
Re: Kia Auto
Posted by:
dVbcP
()
Date: May 15, 2015 10:54PM
Besides looking like a cheap, tasteless, fag they have good warranties. That's about it.
Re: Kia Auto
Posted by:
NippleChuck
()
Date: May 15, 2015 11:02PM
I've had 3 and all have preformed well in the reliability dept. Well made and reliable. Good stuff.
Nip
Nip
Re: Kia Auto
Posted by:
Yugo wannabe
()
Date: May 15, 2015 11:13PM
About as relibale as a Yugo or Pinto
Re: Kia Auto
Posted by:
Holy Crap
()
Date: May 16, 2015 12:18AM
Re: Kia Auto
Posted by: Yugo wannabe ()
Date: May 15, 2015 11:13PM
About as relibale as a Yugo or Pinto
Don't forget the Vega and the Shitvette
Posted by: Yugo wannabe ()
Date: May 15, 2015 11:13PM
About as relibale as a Yugo or Pinto
Don't forget the Vega and the Shitvette
Re: Kia Auto
Posted by:
Doug "The Car Czar" Brauner
()
Date: May 16, 2015 01:11AM
Kia's are excellent cars. They are built well and extremely reliable. Pat Goss is high on the Kia and Hyundai brands. Goss is never wrong.
Re: Kia Auto
Posted by:
toe jamb driver
()
Date: May 16, 2015 11:18AM
Kia is solid. Not quite as good as Toyota or Honda but Kia is a hell of a lot better than anything American made.
Re: Kia Auto
Posted by:
Gunlover
()
Date: May 16, 2015 11:33AM
Gook car
Never Run Out of Ammo
Guns Don't Kill People. People Kill People
Them or You
The two most important days in your life are the day your were born and and the day you find out why
Never Run Out of Ammo
Guns Don't Kill People. People Kill People
Them or You
The two most important days in your life are the day your were born and and the day you find out why
Re: Kia Auto
Posted by:
Car.Guy
()
Date: May 16, 2015 06:25PM
If you're looking for a cheap car...Kia's the way to go. But, even in their most optioned, "luxuriant" version they still don't compare to entry level base trimmed models from Honda, Nissan or Toyota.
If you absolutely can't scrape together a few more hundred dollars...buy the Kia. If you can wait, and save a bit more...you'll get a much more comfortable car.
Also, consider the kind of driving you do...If all you need is a car to commute, get the Kia. If you're doing any driving of more than hour frequently enough, save up and buy a Nissan, Honda or Toyota.
If you absolutely can't scrape together a few more hundred dollars...buy the Kia. If you can wait, and save a bit more...you'll get a much more comfortable car.
Also, consider the kind of driving you do...If all you need is a car to commute, get the Kia. If you're doing any driving of more than hour frequently enough, save up and buy a Nissan, Honda or Toyota.
Re: Kia Auto
Posted by:
e4mHP
()
Date: May 17, 2015 10:05AM
am afraid kim jong will be angry if i say anthing
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fuck you buy american !
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fuck you buy american !
Re: Kia Auto
Posted by:
Ill never own one
()
Date: May 17, 2015 11:00AM
My dad is older and was awarded the Silver star in Korea - he despises the name KIA. Guess Ill never own one of those while he is alive...
Re: Kia Auto
Posted by:
hhf3f
()
Date: May 17, 2015 11:05AM
Car.Guy Wrote:
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> If you're looking for a cheap car...Kia's the way
> to go. But, even in their most optioned,
> "luxuriant" version they still don't compare to
> entry level base trimmed models from Honda, Nissan
> or Toyota.
>
> If you absolutely can't scrape together a few more
> hundred dollars...buy the Kia. If you can wait,
> and save a bit more...you'll get a much more
> comfortable car.
>
> Also, consider the kind of driving you do...If all
> you need is a car to commute, get the Kia. If
> you're doing any driving of more than hour
> frequently enough, save up and buy a Nissan, Honda
> or Toyota.
You sound like someone who hasn't actually looked at Kia or Hyundai in recent years. That's not at all true now. They are at least as well if not better appointed these days. I'm not even a fan of the Korean cars but you have to give them credit for transforming from what were makers of cheap little shit cans filled with problems to bettering the Japs at their own game.
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> If you're looking for a cheap car...Kia's the way
> to go. But, even in their most optioned,
> "luxuriant" version they still don't compare to
> entry level base trimmed models from Honda, Nissan
> or Toyota.
>
> If you absolutely can't scrape together a few more
> hundred dollars...buy the Kia. If you can wait,
> and save a bit more...you'll get a much more
> comfortable car.
>
> Also, consider the kind of driving you do...If all
> you need is a car to commute, get the Kia. If
> you're doing any driving of more than hour
> frequently enough, save up and buy a Nissan, Honda
> or Toyota.
You sound like someone who hasn't actually looked at Kia or Hyundai in recent years. That's not at all true now. They are at least as well if not better appointed these days. I'm not even a fan of the Korean cars but you have to give them credit for transforming from what were makers of cheap little shit cans filled with problems to bettering the Japs at their own game.
Re: Kia Auto
Posted by:
agree with last poster
()
Date: May 17, 2015 11:11AM
Car.Guy Wrote:
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> If you're looking for a cheap car...Kia's the way
> to go. But, even in their most optioned,
> "luxuriant" version they still don't compare to
> entry level base trimmed models from Honda, Nissan
> or Toyota.
Kia looks better than the Japanese rivals, they took Audis lead designer a few years back.
vs
Kias have nicer interiors as well. The only thing I would take on the Japanese cars is their proven engines. KIAs revival is still new compared to the how long the Japs have been king.
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> If you're looking for a cheap car...Kia's the way
> to go. But, even in their most optioned,
> "luxuriant" version they still don't compare to
> entry level base trimmed models from Honda, Nissan
> or Toyota.
Kia looks better than the Japanese rivals, they took Audis lead designer a few years back.
vs
Kias have nicer interiors as well. The only thing I would take on the Japanese cars is their proven engines. KIAs revival is still new compared to the how long the Japs have been king.
Re: Kia Auto
Posted by:
e3xu6
()
Date: May 17, 2015 12:07PM
agree with last poster Wrote:
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> Car.Guy Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > If you're looking for a cheap car...Kia's the
> way
> > to go. But, even in their most optioned,
> > "luxuriant" version they still don't compare to
> > entry level base trimmed models from Honda,
> Nissan k
> > or Toyota.
>
> Kia looks better than the Japanese rivals, they
> took Audis lead designer a few years back.
>
>
> Kias have nicer interiors as well. The only thing
> I would take on the Japanese cars is their proven
> engines. KIAs revival is still new compared to the
> how long the Japs have been king.
Yeah, I'd agree. Motors are one area where they're still lagging. Not quite at the level of the Japs and Germans yet. That's a harder thing to do well in-house than just sourcing parts from other suppliers as most of the car is done.
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> Car.Guy Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > If you're looking for a cheap car...Kia's the
> way
> > to go. But, even in their most optioned,
> > "luxuriant" version they still don't compare to
> > entry level base trimmed models from Honda,
> Nissan k
> > or Toyota.
>
> Kia looks better than the Japanese rivals, they
> took Audis lead designer a few years back.
>
>
> Kias have nicer interiors as well. The only thing
> I would take on the Japanese cars is their proven
> engines. KIAs revival is still new compared to the
> how long the Japs have been king.
Yeah, I'd agree. Motors are one area where they're still lagging. Not quite at the level of the Japs and Germans yet. That's a harder thing to do well in-house than just sourcing parts from other suppliers as most of the car is done.
Re: Kia Auto
Posted by:
Gunlover
()
Date: May 17, 2015 12:27PM
American Made F350. It can carry all you Guns and Fun. Move ON.
Never Run Out of Ammo
Guns Don't Kill People. People Kill People
Them or You
The two most important days in your life are the day your were born and and the day you find out why
Attachments:
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Guns Don't Kill People. People Kill People
Them or You
The two most important days in your life are the day your were born and and the day you find out why
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Re: Kia Auto
Posted by:
gushy ushering
()
Date: May 17, 2015 04:23PM
Gunlover Wrote:
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> American Made F350. It can carry all you Guns and
> Fun. Move ON.
Isn't there a law against retards owning firearms?
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> American Made F350. It can carry all you Guns and
> Fun. Move ON.
Isn't there a law against retards owning firearms?
Re: Kia Auto
Posted by:
3NJUJ
()
Date: May 17, 2015 05:00PM
I've never seen a white person in one.
Re: Kia Auto
Posted by:
898989898
()
Date: May 17, 2015 05:03PM
Gunlover Wrote:
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> American Made F350. It can carry all you Guns and
> Fun. Move ON.
American trash, I'll take a Korean car over a Ford any day.
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> American Made F350. It can carry all you Guns and
> Fun. Move ON.
American trash, I'll take a Korean car over a Ford any day.
Re: Kia Auto
Posted by:
Alexander Smith
()
Date: May 17, 2015 07:20PM
898989898 Wrote:
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> Gunlover Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > American Made F350. It can carry all you Guns
> and
> > Fun. Move ON.
>
>
> American trash, I'll take a Korean car over a Ford
> any day.
Which foreign shithole did you come from to pollute my country?
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> Gunlover Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > American Made F350. It can carry all you Guns
> and
> > Fun. Move ON.
>
>
> American trash, I'll take a Korean car over a Ford
> any day.
Which foreign shithole did you come from to pollute my country?
Re: Kia Auto
Posted by:
Car.Guy
()
Date: May 17, 2015 07:38PM
hhf3f Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Car.Guy Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > If you're looking for a cheap car...Kia's the
> way
> > to go. But, even in their most optioned,
> > "luxuriant" version they still don't compare to
> > entry level base trimmed models from Honda,
> Nissan
> > or Toyota.
> >
> > If you absolutely can't scrape together a few
> more
> > hundred dollars...buy the Kia. If you can wait,
> > and save a bit more...you'll get a much more
> > comfortable car.
> >
> > Also, consider the kind of driving you do...If
> all
> > you need is a car to commute, get the Kia. If
> > you're doing any driving of more than hour
> > frequently enough, save up and buy a Nissan,
> Honda
> > or Toyota.
>
>
> You sound like someone who hasn't actually looked
> at Kia or Hyundai in recent years. That's not at
> all true now. They are at least as well if not
> better appointed these days. I'm not even a fan
> of the Korean cars but you have to give them
> credit for transforming from what were makers of
> cheap little shit cans filled with problems to
> bettering the Japs at their own game.
And you sound like someone who doesn't understand nuance...In a free market (in the this case, the U.S. auto market) someone's product is at the top and someone's product is at the bottom. And the consumers get to decide based on their means and preferences which one they want to buy.
The bottom of the auto market currently...is Kia. Does that mean they're shit cars or that I am disrespecting them in any way? No. Kia is owned by Hyundai. Hyundai now competes directly with the best from Honda, Nissan and Toyota. But not Kia. Kias compete with Suzuki, Mitsubishi and perhaps Fiat.
Kia's cars are designed, built and priced to serve the bottom of the new car market. If you take the SAME class of vehicle, with the SAME options...the Kia is always going to price out lower...and by extension, its quality quotient is lower.
This is 2015. There are no bad cars. Some cars are just better than others and some cars cost less than others.
Feel bad that you're driving a Kia? Frustrated because you wish you could drive a nicer and or newer car? Don't bring me your problems...just work smarter and increase your value to your employer. Leverage that into a raise and buy a nicer car. Or put the increased income in the bank and use it for something else.
Either way...a Kia is a Kia. It's not a Hyundai, Nissan, Toyota or Honda and zero fucks given for what you think you're entitled to.
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> Car.Guy Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > If you're looking for a cheap car...Kia's the
> way
> > to go. But, even in their most optioned,
> > "luxuriant" version they still don't compare to
> > entry level base trimmed models from Honda,
> Nissan
> > or Toyota.
> >
> > If you absolutely can't scrape together a few
> more
> > hundred dollars...buy the Kia. If you can wait,
> > and save a bit more...you'll get a much more
> > comfortable car.
> >
> > Also, consider the kind of driving you do...If
> all
> > you need is a car to commute, get the Kia. If
> > you're doing any driving of more than hour
> > frequently enough, save up and buy a Nissan,
> Honda
> > or Toyota.
>
>
> You sound like someone who hasn't actually looked
> at Kia or Hyundai in recent years. That's not at
> all true now. They are at least as well if not
> better appointed these days. I'm not even a fan
> of the Korean cars but you have to give them
> credit for transforming from what were makers of
> cheap little shit cans filled with problems to
> bettering the Japs at their own game.
And you sound like someone who doesn't understand nuance...In a free market (in the this case, the U.S. auto market) someone's product is at the top and someone's product is at the bottom. And the consumers get to decide based on their means and preferences which one they want to buy.
The bottom of the auto market currently...is Kia. Does that mean they're shit cars or that I am disrespecting them in any way? No. Kia is owned by Hyundai. Hyundai now competes directly with the best from Honda, Nissan and Toyota. But not Kia. Kias compete with Suzuki, Mitsubishi and perhaps Fiat.
Kia's cars are designed, built and priced to serve the bottom of the new car market. If you take the SAME class of vehicle, with the SAME options...the Kia is always going to price out lower...and by extension, its quality quotient is lower.
This is 2015. There are no bad cars. Some cars are just better than others and some cars cost less than others.
Feel bad that you're driving a Kia? Frustrated because you wish you could drive a nicer and or newer car? Don't bring me your problems...just work smarter and increase your value to your employer. Leverage that into a raise and buy a nicer car. Or put the increased income in the bank and use it for something else.
Either way...a Kia is a Kia. It's not a Hyundai, Nissan, Toyota or Honda and zero fucks given for what you think you're entitled to.
Re: Kia Auto
Posted by:
Conservi-tardz lol
()
Date: May 17, 2015 07:47PM
Alexander Smith Wrote:
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> 898989898 Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Gunlover Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > American Made F350. It can carry all you Guns
> > and
> > > Fun. Move ON.
> >
> >
> > American trash, I'll take a Korean car over a
> Ford
> > any day.
>
>
> Which foreign shithole did you come from to
> pollute my country?
"my country"
Conservi-tardz LoLz
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> 898989898 Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Gunlover Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > American Made F350. It can carry all you Guns
> > and
> > > Fun. Move ON.
> >
> >
> > American trash, I'll take a Korean car over a
> Ford
> > any day.
>
>
> Which foreign shithole did you come from to
> pollute my country?
"my country"
Conservi-tardz LoLz
Re: Kia Auto
Posted by:
9vHNu
()
Date: May 17, 2015 09:20PM
Car.Guy Wrote:
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>
> And you sound like someone who doesn't understand
> nuance...In a free market (in the this case, the
> U.S. auto market) someone's product is at the top
> and someone's product is at the bottom. And the
> consumers get to decide based on their means and
> preferences which one they want to buy.
>
> The bottom of the auto market currently...is Kia.
> Does that mean they're shit cars or that I am
> disrespecting them in any way? No. Kia is owned by
> Hyundai. Hyundai now competes directly with the
> best from Honda, Nissan and Toyota. But not Kia.
> Kias compete with Suzuki, Mitsubishi and perhaps
> Fiat.
>
> Kia's cars are designed, built and priced to serve
> the bottom of the new car market. If you take the
> SAME class of vehicle, with the SAME options...the
> Kia is always going to price out lower...and by
> extension, its quality quotient is lower.
>
> This is 2015. There are no bad cars. Some cars are
> just better than others and some cars cost less
> than others.
>
> Feel bad that you're driving a Kia? Frustrated
> because you wish you could drive a nicer and or
> newer car? Don't bring me your problems...just
> work smarter and increase your value to your
> employer. Leverage that into a raise and buy a
> nicer car. Or put the increased income in the bank
> and use it for something else.
>
> Either way...a Kia is a Kia. It's not a Hyundai,
> Nissan, Toyota or Honda and zero fucks given for
> what you think you're entitled to.
There's no "nuance" to it. You're just plain wrong. And the stupid ad hominem bs won't help you any. The days of the tin shitbox stripper Kia are long gone. Saying that its "most optioned, "luxuriant" version still [doesn't] compare to entry level base trimmed models" from the Japanese makers just makes it clear that you don't know WTF you're talking about.
Hyundai doesn't even position Kia as you attempt to. i.e., It's not some down-market line for them. It's a separately operated company that they also happen own. There are roughly equivalent competing models within both lines and they are marketed against every other manufacturer's models in the same class.
You're living in the past son.
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>
> And you sound like someone who doesn't understand
> nuance...In a free market (in the this case, the
> U.S. auto market) someone's product is at the top
> and someone's product is at the bottom. And the
> consumers get to decide based on their means and
> preferences which one they want to buy.
>
> The bottom of the auto market currently...is Kia.
> Does that mean they're shit cars or that I am
> disrespecting them in any way? No. Kia is owned by
> Hyundai. Hyundai now competes directly with the
> best from Honda, Nissan and Toyota. But not Kia.
> Kias compete with Suzuki, Mitsubishi and perhaps
> Fiat.
>
> Kia's cars are designed, built and priced to serve
> the bottom of the new car market. If you take the
> SAME class of vehicle, with the SAME options...the
> Kia is always going to price out lower...and by
> extension, its quality quotient is lower.
>
> This is 2015. There are no bad cars. Some cars are
> just better than others and some cars cost less
> than others.
>
> Feel bad that you're driving a Kia? Frustrated
> because you wish you could drive a nicer and or
> newer car? Don't bring me your problems...just
> work smarter and increase your value to your
> employer. Leverage that into a raise and buy a
> nicer car. Or put the increased income in the bank
> and use it for something else.
>
> Either way...a Kia is a Kia. It's not a Hyundai,
> Nissan, Toyota or Honda and zero fucks given for
> what you think you're entitled to.
There's no "nuance" to it. You're just plain wrong. And the stupid ad hominem bs won't help you any. The days of the tin shitbox stripper Kia are long gone. Saying that its "most optioned, "luxuriant" version still [doesn't] compare to entry level base trimmed models" from the Japanese makers just makes it clear that you don't know WTF you're talking about.
Hyundai doesn't even position Kia as you attempt to. i.e., It's not some down-market line for them. It's a separately operated company that they also happen own. There are roughly equivalent competing models within both lines and they are marketed against every other manufacturer's models in the same class.
You're living in the past son.
Re: Kia Auto
Posted by:
giddyup
()
Date: May 17, 2015 09:54PM
Kia and Hyundai are not stripped down. It's just the opposite. The standard trim level Kia or Hyundai will come with features that you only get on a Toyota or Honda if you pay extra for the top trim level.
Re: Kia Auto
Posted by:
Vexxxed
()
Date: May 18, 2015 06:30AM
giddyup Wrote:
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> Kia and Hyundai are not stripped down. It's just
> the opposite. The standard trim level Kia or
> Hyundai will come with features that you only get
> on a Toyota or Honda if you pay extra for the top
> trim level.
In other words, Kia and Hyundai took a page out of the Japanese play book from when they took on American auto manufacturers. Give the people more for their money to buy loyalty away from the big guys.
It was no way a new idea when the Japanese did it but it was effective as hell.
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> Kia and Hyundai are not stripped down. It's just
> the opposite. The standard trim level Kia or
> Hyundai will come with features that you only get
> on a Toyota or Honda if you pay extra for the top
> trim level.
In other words, Kia and Hyundai took a page out of the Japanese play book from when they took on American auto manufacturers. Give the people more for their money to buy loyalty away from the big guys.
It was no way a new idea when the Japanese did it but it was effective as hell.
Re: Kia Auto
Posted by:
Falcon pickup
()
Date: May 18, 2015 06:34AM
I'd rather drive a Ford Falcon with hard cover. You can swap parts with a Mustang II.
Re: Kia Auto
Posted by:
Vexxxed
()
Date: May 18, 2015 06:44AM
Falcon pickup Wrote:
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> I'd rather drive a Ford Falcon with hard cover.
> You can swap parts with a Mustang II.
You're up early, eesh.
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> I'd rather drive a Ford Falcon with hard cover.
> You can swap parts with a Mustang II.
You're up early, eesh.
Re: Kia Auto
Posted by:
kywkd
()
Date: May 18, 2015 01:23PM
Gunlover Wrote:
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> American Made F350. It can carry all you Guns and
> Fun. Move ON.
I agree with this. Kia is alot of car for the $$$. Like I said earlier in this thread reliable and good bang for the buck. They are good for giving to the kids so they have new reliable transportation for not a ton of doigh.
Thanks for the F-350 porn GL.
Nip.
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> American Made F350. It can carry all you Guns and
> Fun. Move ON.
I agree with this. Kia is alot of car for the $$$. Like I said earlier in this thread reliable and good bang for the buck. They are good for giving to the kids so they have new reliable transportation for not a ton of doigh.
Thanks for the F-350 porn GL.
Nip.
Re: Kia Auto
Posted by:
Huh???
()
Date: May 18, 2015 07:13PM
You guys ARE NOT comparing the same cars.
If you have a 4 door sedan over here which comes with little equipment standard...and you have another 4 door sedan over there which is also referred to as a base model but it comes with MORE standard equipment than the first car? You are not comparing the same cars!
Yes, car #2 comes with more things standard but it costs more than car #1. Meanwhile, car #1 comes with less things standard and costs less. Yes, you're getting more from car #2 but, you're also SPENDING more to get those things. Just because they are standard equipment doesn't mean they're free.
For an equal comparison when car shopping, you would want to price compare EQUALLY equipped cars in the same class before you even start test driving them.
If you have a 4 door sedan over here which comes with little equipment standard...and you have another 4 door sedan over there which is also referred to as a base model but it comes with MORE standard equipment than the first car? You are not comparing the same cars!
Yes, car #2 comes with more things standard but it costs more than car #1. Meanwhile, car #1 comes with less things standard and costs less. Yes, you're getting more from car #2 but, you're also SPENDING more to get those things. Just because they are standard equipment doesn't mean they're free.
For an equal comparison when car shopping, you would want to price compare EQUALLY equipped cars in the same class before you even start test driving them.