Re: Should I off myself?
Date: December 10, 2008 08:27AM
Bob Wrote:
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> What the fuck???
>
> Dude, you're quoting some text from an 1800 year
> old book created by the roman empire, mixing
> Zoroastrianism and other pagan religions with the
> "word of jesus christ"??
>
> And that is supposed to have meaning in the 21st
> century, how?
>
> I just read Leviticus and now I feel I should be
> able to own slaves....
>
>
> Leviticus 25:44-46: "Your male and female slaves
> are to come from the nations around you; from them
> you may buy slaves. You may also buy some of the
> temporary residents living among you and members
> of their clans born in your country, and they will
> become your property. You can will them to your
> children as inherited property and can make them
> slaves for life, but you must not rule over your
> fellow Israelites ruthlessly." (NIV)
>
>
> Leviticus 25:48-53: "After that he is sold he may
> be redeemed again; one of his brethren may redeem
> him: Either his uncle, or his uncle's son, may
> redeem him, or any that is nigh of kin unto him of
> his family may redeem him; or if he be able, he
> may redeem himself. And he shall reckon with him
> that bought him from the year that he was sold to
> him unto the year of jubilee: and the price of his
> sale shall be according unto the number of years,
> according to the time of an hired servant shall it
> be with him."
>
You might have mentioned Miterism the ancient pagan practice of drinking blood etc. In history there were pagan counteerfits of the bible accounts all through history. I found the scripture powerful and pertinant to suffering. The ancient biblical prophets all kept the faith even when dieing by the sowrd, stoning, even being sawn in two as Isaiah was said to be. But today we have reality of Jesus. More then 500 saw him reserected. They in turn told others. This is difficult to counterfit.
Slave ownership is today generally frowned upon. Although the ideea of serving another is I think a noble thing. Slavery as practiced umong ancient Isreal was a one on one thing in which individuals who broke property concepts were enslaved. Today we have indeptidness and incarceration. INCARCERATION seems to me to result in making people worse, though not slaves.
32 And what more shall I say? For the time would fail me to tell of Gideon and Barak and Samson and Jephthah, also of David and Samuel and the prophets: 33 who through faith subdued kingdoms, worked righteousness, obtained promises, stopped the mouths of lions, 34 quenched the violence of fire, escaped the edge of the sword, out of weakness were made strong, became valiant in battle, turned to flight the armies of the aliens. 35 Women received their dead raised to life again.
Others were tortured, not accepting deliverance, that they might obtain a better resurrection. 36 Still others had trial of mockings and scourgings, yes, and of chains and imprisonment. 37 They were stoned, they were sawn in two, were tempted,[f] were slain with the sword. They wandered about in sheepskins and goatskins, being destitute, afflicted, tormented— 38 of whom the world was not worthy. They wandered in deserts and mountains, in dens and caves of the earth.
39 And all these, having obtained a good testimony through faith, did not receive the promise, 40 God having provided something better for us, that they should not be made perfect apart from us. 1 Therefore we also, since we are surrounded by so great a cloud of witnesses, let us lay aside every weight, and the sin which so easily ensnares us, and let us run with endurance the race that is set before us, 2 looking unto Jesus, the author and finisher of our faith, who for the joy that was set before Him endured the cross, despising the shame, and has sat down at the right hand of the throne of God.
The Discipline of God
3 For consider Him who endured such hostility from sinners against Himself, lest you become weary and discouraged in your souls. 4 You have not yet resisted to bloodshed, striving against sin. 5 And you have forgotten the exhortation which speaks to you as to sons:
“ My son, do not despise the chastening of the LORD,
Nor be discouraged when you are rebuked by Him;
6 For whom the LORD loves He chastens,
And scourges every son whom He receives.”[a]
7 If you endure chastening, God deals with you as with sons; for what son is there whom a father does not chasten? 8 But if you are without chastening, of which all have become partakers, then you are illegitimate and not sons. 9 Furthermore, we have had human fathers who corrected us, and we paid them respect. Shall we not much more readily be in subjection to the Father of spirits and live? 10 For they indeed for a few days chastened us as seemed best to them, but He for our profit, that we may be partakers of His holiness. 11 Now no chastening seems to be joyful for the present, but painful; nevertheless, afterward it yields the peaceable fruit of righteousness to those who have been trained by it.