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Meanwhile New "Arab Spring" Leaders in Tunisia Jail 3 Women for Topless Photo
Posted by:
WingNut
()
Date: June 14, 2013 07:34AM
Pussy riot.
Under Tunisia's "moderate" Islamist government, you can attack and vandalize the American embassy and still walk free. But if a woman bares her breasts in a form of protest, a four-month prison sentence is considered too lax.
A Tunisian judge sentenced three European feminists Wednesday to four months in prison for a topless protest outside the courthouse. Their supporters expected to be fined or deported, London's Independent reports. European Union officials blasted the sentence as excessive.
"To ensure ... freedom of expression, the EU underlines the need to revise [Tunisian] laws inherited from the previous regimes, which can be used to restrict it," spokesman Michael Mann said.
Two weeks earlier, a Tunisian court issued suspended sentences for 20 people accused of causing property damage at the U.S. Embassy and setting cars there on fire during violence last September.
The women – two from France and one German – are part of group called Femen. "Breast Feed Revolution," the women wrote across their chests. They came to Tunisia late last month to protest the arrest of a colleague, Amina Tyler, a Tunisian who was arrested after posting a topless picture of herself on Facebook with the message "My body belongs to me and not the honor of others" written on her chest in Arabic.
That's not the way Tunisian Islamists see it.
"In Islam we respect our mothers, our sisters, our wives. Islam respects women and their physical dignity. Public nudity is forbidden. We reject the actions of Femen," prosecutor Slah Barkati told the court.
Attorneys for Islamist groups who wanted to be parties to the case wanted to define freedom for the women. "It is Islam that honours women and offers them freedom, not the act of undressing," attorney Slah Khlifi said in a Middle East Online report. Another attorney said the topless protest constituted an attack on state security under Tunisian law and is punishable by up to a year in prison.
On the other hand, a veteran Tunisian feminist said Femen's actions were counter-productive for her cause and asked that the group stay out of Tunisia in the future. Provocative actions like topless protests come off as signs of western debauchery. "We Tunisian feminists are trying to steer the discussion away from identity. Women's rights are a social and political issue," Maya Jribi said in an interview with Germany's Der Spiegel.
Tunisia was the first country to see governmental change in the 2011 "Arab Spring." But the rise of the Islamist Ennahda Party has not eased tension there, as radical Salafis gain stature and a secular opposition leader was gunned down in February. While news outlets continue to call Ennahda "moderate" – the Reuters report on the Femen protest did just that – the group's leader envisions Islamists soon dominating the Arab world. Rachid Ghannouchi also predicted the Arab Spring would "threaten the extinction of Israel."
http://www.investigativeproject.org/4044/feminist-protest-exposes-tunisia-islamist-justice
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Under Tunisia's "moderate" Islamist government, you can attack and vandalize the American embassy and still walk free. But if a woman bares her breasts in a form of protest, a four-month prison sentence is considered too lax.
A Tunisian judge sentenced three European feminists Wednesday to four months in prison for a topless protest outside the courthouse. Their supporters expected to be fined or deported, London's Independent reports. European Union officials blasted the sentence as excessive.
"To ensure ... freedom of expression, the EU underlines the need to revise [Tunisian] laws inherited from the previous regimes, which can be used to restrict it," spokesman Michael Mann said.
Two weeks earlier, a Tunisian court issued suspended sentences for 20 people accused of causing property damage at the U.S. Embassy and setting cars there on fire during violence last September.
The women – two from France and one German – are part of group called Femen. "Breast Feed Revolution," the women wrote across their chests. They came to Tunisia late last month to protest the arrest of a colleague, Amina Tyler, a Tunisian who was arrested after posting a topless picture of herself on Facebook with the message "My body belongs to me and not the honor of others" written on her chest in Arabic.
That's not the way Tunisian Islamists see it.
"In Islam we respect our mothers, our sisters, our wives. Islam respects women and their physical dignity. Public nudity is forbidden. We reject the actions of Femen," prosecutor Slah Barkati told the court.
Attorneys for Islamist groups who wanted to be parties to the case wanted to define freedom for the women. "It is Islam that honours women and offers them freedom, not the act of undressing," attorney Slah Khlifi said in a Middle East Online report. Another attorney said the topless protest constituted an attack on state security under Tunisian law and is punishable by up to a year in prison.
On the other hand, a veteran Tunisian feminist said Femen's actions were counter-productive for her cause and asked that the group stay out of Tunisia in the future. Provocative actions like topless protests come off as signs of western debauchery. "We Tunisian feminists are trying to steer the discussion away from identity. Women's rights are a social and political issue," Maya Jribi said in an interview with Germany's Der Spiegel.
Tunisia was the first country to see governmental change in the 2011 "Arab Spring." But the rise of the Islamist Ennahda Party has not eased tension there, as radical Salafis gain stature and a secular opposition leader was gunned down in February. While news outlets continue to call Ennahda "moderate" – the Reuters report on the Femen protest did just that – the group's leader envisions Islamists soon dominating the Arab world. Rachid Ghannouchi also predicted the Arab Spring would "threaten the extinction of Israel."
http://www.investigativeproject.org/4044/feminist-protest-exposes-tunisia-islamist-justice
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Re: Meanwhile New "Arab Spring" Leaders in Tunisia Jail 3 Women for Topless Photo
Posted by:
RESPECT OTHER COUNTRIES LAWS
()
Date: June 14, 2013 07:56AM
WingNut Wrote:
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> Pussy riot.
>
>
> Under Tunisia's "moderate" Islamist government,
> you can attack and vandalize the American embassy
> and still walk free. But if a woman bares her
> breasts in a form of protest, a four-month prison
> sentence is considered too lax.
>
> A Tunisian judge sentenced three European
> feminists Wednesday to four months in prison for a
> topless protest outside the courthouse. Their
> supporters expected to be fined or deported,
> London's Independent reports. European Union
> officials blasted the sentence as excessive.
>
> "To ensure ... freedom of expression, the EU
> underlines the need to revise [Tunisian] laws
> inherited from the previous regimes, which can be
> used to restrict it," spokesman Michael Mann
> said.
>
> Two weeks earlier, a Tunisian court issued
> suspended sentences for 20 people accused of
> causing property damage at the U.S. Embassy and
> setting cars there on fire during violence last
> September.
>
> The women – two from France and one German –
> are part of group called Femen. "Breast Feed
> Revolution," the women wrote across their chests.
> They came to Tunisia late last month to protest
> the arrest of a colleague, Amina Tyler, a Tunisian
> who was arrested after posting a topless picture
> of herself on Facebook with the message "My body
> belongs to me and not the honor of others" written
> on her chest in Arabic.
>
> That's not the way Tunisian Islamists see it.
>
> "In Islam we respect our mothers, our sisters, our
> wives. Islam respects women and their physical
> dignity. Public nudity is forbidden. We reject the
> actions of Femen," prosecutor Slah Barkati told
> the court.
>
> Attorneys for Islamist groups who wanted to be
> parties to the case wanted to define freedom for
> the women. "It is Islam that honours women and
> offers them freedom, not the act of undressing,"
> attorney Slah Khlifi said in a Middle East Online
> report. Another attorney said the topless protest
> constituted an attack on state security under
> Tunisian law and is punishable by up to a year in
> prison.
>
> On the other hand, a veteran Tunisian feminist
> said Femen's actions were counter-productive for
> her cause and asked that the group stay out of
> Tunisia in the future. Provocative actions like
> topless protests come off as signs of western
> debauchery. "We Tunisian feminists are trying to
> steer the discussion away from identity. Women's
> rights are a social and political issue," Maya
> Jribi said in an interview with Germany's Der
> Spiegel.
>
> Tunisia was the first country to see governmental
> change in the 2011 "Arab Spring." But the rise of
> the Islamist Ennahda Party has not eased tension
> there, as radical Salafis gain stature and a
> secular opposition leader was gunned down in
> February. While news outlets continue to call
> Ennahda "moderate" – the Reuters report on the
> Femen protest did just that – the group's leader
> envisions Islamists soon dominating the Arab
> world. Rachid Ghannouchi also predicted the Arab
> Spring would "threaten the extinction of Israel."
>
>
> http://www.investigativeproject.org/4044/feminist-
> protest-exposes-tunisia-islamist-justice
Well they got what Tunisia's laws dictated. Regardless of how backwards ass islamic law is, YOU ARE IN THEIR COUNTRY AND HAVE TO ABIDE BY THEIR LAW JUST LIKE YOU EXPECT OTHERS IN THIS COUNTRY TO ABIDE BY OURS. It sucks for them but, oh well, they knew what they were getting into so just deal with the 4-month sentence. They should consider themselves very very very lucky because other islamic countries would have been much more harsher on their treatment.
-------------------------------------------------------
> Pussy riot.
>
>
> Under Tunisia's "moderate" Islamist government,
> you can attack and vandalize the American embassy
> and still walk free. But if a woman bares her
> breasts in a form of protest, a four-month prison
> sentence is considered too lax.
>
> A Tunisian judge sentenced three European
> feminists Wednesday to four months in prison for a
> topless protest outside the courthouse. Their
> supporters expected to be fined or deported,
> London's Independent reports. European Union
> officials blasted the sentence as excessive.
>
> "To ensure ... freedom of expression, the EU
> underlines the need to revise [Tunisian] laws
> inherited from the previous regimes, which can be
> used to restrict it," spokesman Michael Mann
> said.
>
> Two weeks earlier, a Tunisian court issued
> suspended sentences for 20 people accused of
> causing property damage at the U.S. Embassy and
> setting cars there on fire during violence last
> September.
>
> The women – two from France and one German –
> are part of group called Femen. "Breast Feed
> Revolution," the women wrote across their chests.
> They came to Tunisia late last month to protest
> the arrest of a colleague, Amina Tyler, a Tunisian
> who was arrested after posting a topless picture
> of herself on Facebook with the message "My body
> belongs to me and not the honor of others" written
> on her chest in Arabic.
>
> That's not the way Tunisian Islamists see it.
>
> "In Islam we respect our mothers, our sisters, our
> wives. Islam respects women and their physical
> dignity. Public nudity is forbidden. We reject the
> actions of Femen," prosecutor Slah Barkati told
> the court.
>
> Attorneys for Islamist groups who wanted to be
> parties to the case wanted to define freedom for
> the women. "It is Islam that honours women and
> offers them freedom, not the act of undressing,"
> attorney Slah Khlifi said in a Middle East Online
> report. Another attorney said the topless protest
> constituted an attack on state security under
> Tunisian law and is punishable by up to a year in
> prison.
>
> On the other hand, a veteran Tunisian feminist
> said Femen's actions were counter-productive for
> her cause and asked that the group stay out of
> Tunisia in the future. Provocative actions like
> topless protests come off as signs of western
> debauchery. "We Tunisian feminists are trying to
> steer the discussion away from identity. Women's
> rights are a social and political issue," Maya
> Jribi said in an interview with Germany's Der
> Spiegel.
>
> Tunisia was the first country to see governmental
> change in the 2011 "Arab Spring." But the rise of
> the Islamist Ennahda Party has not eased tension
> there, as radical Salafis gain stature and a
> secular opposition leader was gunned down in
> February. While news outlets continue to call
> Ennahda "moderate" – the Reuters report on the
> Femen protest did just that – the group's leader
> envisions Islamists soon dominating the Arab
> world. Rachid Ghannouchi also predicted the Arab
> Spring would "threaten the extinction of Israel."
>
>
> http://www.investigativeproject.org/4044/feminist-
> protest-exposes-tunisia-islamist-justice
Well they got what Tunisia's laws dictated. Regardless of how backwards ass islamic law is, YOU ARE IN THEIR COUNTRY AND HAVE TO ABIDE BY THEIR LAW JUST LIKE YOU EXPECT OTHERS IN THIS COUNTRY TO ABIDE BY OURS. It sucks for them but, oh well, they knew what they were getting into so just deal with the 4-month sentence. They should consider themselves very very very lucky because other islamic countries would have been much more harsher on their treatment.
Re: Meanwhile New "Arab Spring" Leaders in Tunisia Jail 3 Women for Topless Photo
Posted by:
WingNut
()
Date: June 14, 2013 08:26AM
RESPECT OTHER COUNTRIES LAWS Wrote:
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> Well they got what Tunisia's laws dictated.
> Regardless of how backwards ass islamic law is,
> YOU ARE IN THEIR COUNTRY AND HAVE TO ABIDE BY
> THEIR LAW JUST LIKE YOU EXPECT OTHERS IN THIS
> COUNTRY TO ABIDE BY OURS. It sucks for them but,
> oh well, they knew what they were getting into so
> just deal with the 4-month sentence. They should
> consider themselves very very very lucky because
> other islamic countries would have been much more
> harsher on their treatment.
Hear, hear...
But- should we as Americans respect these "cultures" and "values", even when they are other countries?
Should we subsidize these kind of backward governments with military/humanitarian aid?
The U.S boycotted South Africa over apartheid.. Why can't we cut these douche bag sand traps loose over their treatment of females?
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> Well they got what Tunisia's laws dictated.
> Regardless of how backwards ass islamic law is,
> YOU ARE IN THEIR COUNTRY AND HAVE TO ABIDE BY
> THEIR LAW JUST LIKE YOU EXPECT OTHERS IN THIS
> COUNTRY TO ABIDE BY OURS. It sucks for them but,
> oh well, they knew what they were getting into so
> just deal with the 4-month sentence. They should
> consider themselves very very very lucky because
> other islamic countries would have been much more
> harsher on their treatment.
Hear, hear...
But- should we as Americans respect these "cultures" and "values", even when they are other countries?
Should we subsidize these kind of backward governments with military/humanitarian aid?
The U.S boycotted South Africa over apartheid.. Why can't we cut these douche bag sand traps loose over their treatment of females?
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Re: Meanwhile New "Arab Spring" Leaders in Tunisia Jail 3 Women for Topless Photo
Posted by:
bitches that'll get'chas
()
Date: June 14, 2013 12:30PM
why these bitches have to make trouble?
Re: Meanwhile New "Arab Spring" Leaders in Tunisia Jail 3 Women for Topless Photo
Posted by:
RESPECT OTHER COUNTRIES LAWS
()
Date: June 14, 2013 12:41PM
WingNut Wrote:
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> RESPECT OTHER COUNTRIES LAWS Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Well they got what Tunisia's laws dictated.
> > Regardless of how backwards ass islamic law is,
> > YOU ARE IN THEIR COUNTRY AND HAVE TO ABIDE BY
> > THEIR LAW JUST LIKE YOU EXPECT OTHERS IN THIS
> > COUNTRY TO ABIDE BY OURS. It sucks for them
> but,
> > oh well, they knew what they were getting into
> so
> > just deal with the 4-month sentence. They
> should
> > consider themselves very very very lucky
> because
> > other islamic countries would have been much
> more
> > harsher on their treatment.
>
> Hear, hear...
>
> But- should we as Americans respect these
> "cultures" and "values", even when they are other
> countries?
>
> Should we subsidize these kind of backward
> governments with military/humanitarian aid?
>
> The U.S boycotted South Africa over apartheid..
> Why can't we cut these douche bag sand traps loose
> over their treatment of females?
1. But- should we as Americans respect these
> "cultures" and "values", even when they are other
> countries?
If we(Americans) are in their country then we need to respect their cultures and values regardless if it is ass backwards. If they are in our country they need to do the same. The easiest solution to this is just don't go to these ass backwards countries. Why would I subject my girlfriend to their values which to me is demeaning? Personally, I would not go to a country where their legal system is ass backwards.
2. Should we subsidize these kind of backward
> governments with military/humanitarian aid?
HELL NO!!!!!! WE HAVE PROBLEMS HERE THAT NEED FIXING!!!!
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> RESPECT OTHER COUNTRIES LAWS Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Well they got what Tunisia's laws dictated.
> > Regardless of how backwards ass islamic law is,
> > YOU ARE IN THEIR COUNTRY AND HAVE TO ABIDE BY
> > THEIR LAW JUST LIKE YOU EXPECT OTHERS IN THIS
> > COUNTRY TO ABIDE BY OURS. It sucks for them
> but,
> > oh well, they knew what they were getting into
> so
> > just deal with the 4-month sentence. They
> should
> > consider themselves very very very lucky
> because
> > other islamic countries would have been much
> more
> > harsher on their treatment.
>
> Hear, hear...
>
> But- should we as Americans respect these
> "cultures" and "values", even when they are other
> countries?
>
> Should we subsidize these kind of backward
> governments with military/humanitarian aid?
>
> The U.S boycotted South Africa over apartheid..
> Why can't we cut these douche bag sand traps loose
> over their treatment of females?
1. But- should we as Americans respect these
> "cultures" and "values", even when they are other
> countries?
If we(Americans) are in their country then we need to respect their cultures and values regardless if it is ass backwards. If they are in our country they need to do the same. The easiest solution to this is just don't go to these ass backwards countries. Why would I subject my girlfriend to their values which to me is demeaning? Personally, I would not go to a country where their legal system is ass backwards.
2. Should we subsidize these kind of backward
> governments with military/humanitarian aid?
HELL NO!!!!!! WE HAVE PROBLEMS HERE THAT NEED FIXING!!!!