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Abortion is safe!
Posted by: h ()
Date: February 08, 2013 03:38PM

GERMANTOWN, Md., Feb. 8, 2013 -- A 29 year-old woman was pronounced dead at a local hospital in Germantown, MD on Thursday, February 7th, as a direct result of complications experienced during a 3rd trimester abortion by LeRoy Carhart -- who was hailed as a "hero" in the film "After Tiller" at the recent Sundance Film Festival.

The young woman arrived at Carhart's Germantown, MD, abortion facility -- Germantown Reproductive Health Services -- Sunday evening to begin a risky, four-day, third-trimester abortion. She was approximately 33 weeks pregnant.

Witnesses say that the young woman appeared "pale and weak" when she returned to the clinic Monday, Tuesday, and Wednesday for the remaining steps of the late-term abortion.

Thursday morning around 5am, the young woman was short of breath and in intense pain. When she and her family tried to contact LeRoy Carhart for assistance and follow-up care, he could not be reached. The young woman was transported to a local hospital Emergency Room by private vehicle.

By 10am Thursday, the young woman "coded" 6 times, and had to be revived by Emergency personnel. Due to immense blood loss and hemorrhagic shock, her body was unable to recover, and she was pronounced dead.

The Maryland Medical Examiner spent a significant amount of time reviewing the case and the records at the hospital on Thursday, and determined the case needed further investigation due to the unusual circumstances of her death.

All information was provided to MDCFL on condition of anonymity, and by an extremely credible, confidential source.

"It is so tragic that this family had to lose not only their nearly full-term child, but also their wife, daughter, and sister," said Michael Martelli, Executive Director of the Maryland Coalition for Life. "What is most appalling is that the State of Maryland refused to hear the pleas of this community, and has allowed this man to continue to butcher women and children."

On the very same day that this woman died, the Department of Health and Mental Hygiene posted on their website that they issued a license to Carhart's clinic to perform abortions -- without a single inspection of the facility.

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Re: Abortion is safe!
Posted by: Knower of Things ()
Date: February 08, 2013 03:57PM

Whenever I want biased news coverage, I always go to:

www.christiannewswire.com/

Abortion IS safe. A woman is far more likely to die during child birth than during a abortion procedure.

Still, women do sometimes die. There are no guantees in this life.

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Re: Abortion is safe!
Posted by: Thanks! ()
Date: February 08, 2013 03:58PM

THANK YOU for sharing such an enlightening story! But do you know the REASON that this woman was seeking a late-term abortion? Why she waited so long? No you do not. So, again, thank you for trying to imply that all abortions are unsafe. Idiot.

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Re: Abortion is safe!
Posted by: You don't know much ()
Date: February 08, 2013 04:01PM

Knower of Things Wrote:
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> Still, women do sometimes die. There are no
> guantees in this life.


It is a guarentee this woman died as a result of her abortion.

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Re: Abortion is safe!
Posted by: Wecome! ()
Date: February 08, 2013 04:03PM

Thanks! Wrote:
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> THANK YOU for sharing such an enlightening story!
> But do you know the REASON that this woman was
> seeking a late-term abortion? Why she waited so
> long? No you do not. So, again, thank you for
> trying to imply that all abortions are unsafe.
> Idiot.


Do you know the reason the "Doctor" refused to admit this woman to a hospital? No you do not. So, again, tahnk you for supporting a "Doctor" that killed his patient.

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Re: Abortion is safe!
Posted by: Abortion Safer Than Childbirth ()
Date: February 08, 2013 04:04PM

Abortion Safer for Women Than Childbirth

Risk of death, though small, is 14 times higher in full-term pregnancy

By Serena Gordon
HealthDay Reporter

MONDAY, Jan. 23 (HealthDay News) -- Since the U.S. Supreme Court legalized abortion in 1973, opponents have questioned the safety of medical procedures used to terminate pregnancy. Now, a new study contends that having a legal abortion is safer than carrying a baby to term.

The risk of death associated with a full-term pregnancy and delivery is 8.8 deaths per 100,000, while the risk of death linked to legal abortion is 0.6 deaths per 100,000 women, according to the study. That means a woman carrying a baby to term is 14 times more likely to die than a woman who chooses to have a legal abortion, the study finds.

"Regardless of one's sentiments about abortion, legal abortion is very safe, and dramatically safer than continuing the pregnancy," said the study's lead author, Dr. David Grimes, a clinical professor in the department of obstetrics and gynecology at the University of North Carolina School of Medicine at Chapel Hill.

Sunday was the 39th anniversary of Roe vs. Wade, the landmark case that struck down state laws prohibiting abortion.

Grimes and his colleagues had several reasons for undertaking the study, published in the February issue of Obstetrics & Gynecology. One is that medical abortion, in which a woman can take a pill early in pregnancy, instead of surgical abortion, "has changed the landscape of abortion, and the mortality information needed to be updated."

Another reason is that in many states, women are given information before getting an abortion. "There's been a proliferation of these women's-right-to-know pamphlets, and some of them are misleading, if not downright incorrect or patently wrong," Grimes said.

A pamphlet given out in Texas lists more complications for abortion than it does for pregnancy, he explained. "Someone without a medical background might infer that abortion is more dangerous than continuing a pregnancy," he said.

To estimate the risk of death, the authors combined information from several national datasets gathered between 1998 and 2005. One, from the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, listed the number of pregnancy-related deaths in women delivering live babies. Another CDC dataset gave the number of legal abortions performed in the United States. Information on deaths from legal abortion came from an estimate provided by the Guttmacher Institute, which conducted an annual survey of U.S. hospitals, clinics and physicians' offices that provide abortions. The Guttmacher Institute also provided information from abortion patient surveys, and the researchers searched published studies for additional estimates of mortality.

From known live births, they found there were 2,856 deaths in women between 1998 and 2005. That translates to a risk of death of 8.8 per 100,000 pregnancies, according to the study.

For legal abortion, 64 deaths were reported in the same time frame. That translates to a risk of 0.6 deaths per 100,000 pregnancies, the study authors said.

In addition, the authors found that complications -- such as postpartum hemorrhage, infections and high blood pressure disorders -- were more common in women choosing to continue their pregnancies. This is, in part, because a woman with a full-term pregnancy has that much more time for pregnancy-related problems to develop, the authors said.

Dr. Donna Harrison, director of research and public policy at the American Association of Pro-Life Obstetricians and Gynecologists, disagreed with the authors' conclusions. This study's findings are "speculation," she said.

"Abortion mortality is not systematically collected. What Dr. Grimes' paper most clearly illustrates is the immediate need for reporting requirements for abortion deaths in all 50 states," Harrison said.

"Abortion carries significant risks to the mother in addition to death, and women need to have good and accurate information," Harrison said. "Since we don't have an objective academic format yet, the information provided should probably be left up to the state medical boards and agreed to by the state legislature."

Dr. Mitchell Creinin, professor and chair of obstetrics and gynecology at the University of California, Davis, said that pregnant women considering their options "are often scared by the rhetoric."

"If a state is going to feel a responsibility to be involved in this private matter, we need to ensure that the material is factual," said Creinin, who wrote an accompanying editorial in the same issue of the journal. "If it comes from the state or the government, people assume it's true," he added.

On its website, the Guttmacher Institute describes its mission as advancing "sexual and reproductive health and rights through an interrelated program of research, policy analysis and public education designed to generate new ideas, encourage enlightened public debate and promote sound policy and program development."

More information

The U.S. National Library of Medicine has more information on medical abortion.

http://health.usnews.com/health-news/family-health/womens-health/articles/2012/01/23/abortion-safer-for-women-than-childbirth-study-claims?page=2

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Re: Abortion is safe!
Posted by: Thanks! ()
Date: February 08, 2013 04:08PM

Wecome! Wrote:
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> Thanks! Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > THANK YOU for sharing such an enlightening
> story!
> > But do you know the REASON that this woman was
> > seeking a late-term abortion? Why she waited
> so
> > long? No you do not. So, again, thank you for
> > trying to imply that all abortions are unsafe.
> > Idiot.
>
>
> Do you know the reason the "Doctor" refused to
> admit this woman to a hospital? No you do not.
> So, again, tahnk you for supporting a "Doctor"
> that killed his patient.


No where in the above does it mention that the doctor refused to admit the woman to a hospital. All it says was that the family tried to contact the doc, but he was unavailable. At 5am. Seems to me that the woman was already at home. It was Thursday morning, and the procedure was completed on Wednesday. So I will say it again.. Idiot.

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Re: Abortion is safe!
Posted by: Weclome! ()
Date: February 08, 2013 04:11PM

Thanks! Wrote:
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> Wecome! Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Thanks! Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > THANK YOU for sharing such an enlightening
> > story!
> > > But do you know the REASON that this woman
> was
> > > seeking a late-term abortion? Why she waited
> > so
> > > long? No you do not. So, again, thank you
> for
> > > trying to imply that all abortions are unsafe.
>
> > > Idiot.
> >
> >
> > Do you know the reason the "Doctor" refused to
> > admit this woman to a hospital? No you do not.
>
> > So, again, tahnk you for supporting a "Doctor"
> > that killed his patient.
>
>
> No where in the above does it mention that the
> doctor refused to admit the woman to a hospital.
> All it says was that the family tried to contact
> the doc, but he was unavailable. At 5am. Seems
> to me that the woman was already at home. It was
> Thursday morning, and the procedure was completed
> on Wednesday. So I will say it again.. Idiot.


Your support for a "Doctor" that killed his patient is duly noted....

Dipshit

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Re: Abortion is safe!
Posted by: Thanks! ()
Date: February 08, 2013 04:16PM

Weclome! Wrote:
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> Your support for a "Doctor" that killed his
> patient is duly noted....

Sometimes, patients die. It's not necessarily anyone's fault.

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Re: Abortion is safe!
Posted by: Thanks! ()
Date: February 08, 2013 04:17PM

Weclome! Wrote:
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> Thanks! Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Wecome! Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Thanks! Wrote:
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > > -----
> > > > THANK YOU for sharing such an enlightening
> > > story!
> > > > But do you know the REASON that this woman
> > was
> > > > seeking a late-term abortion? Why she
> waited
> > > so
> > > > long? No you do not. So, again, thank you
> > for
> > > > trying to imply that all abortions are
> unsafe.
> >
> > > > Idiot.
> > >
> > >
> > > Do you know the reason the "Doctor" refused
> to
> > > admit this woman to a hospital? No you do
> not.
> >
> > > So, again, tahnk you for supporting a
> "Doctor"
> > > that killed his patient.
> >
> >
> > No where in the above does it mention that the
> > doctor refused to admit the woman to a hospital.
>
> > All it says was that the family tried to
> contact
> > the doc, but he was unavailable. At 5am.
> Seems
> > to me that the woman was already at home. It
> was
> > Thursday morning, and the procedure was
> completed
> > on Wednesday. So I will say it again.. Idiot.
>
>
> Your support for a "Doctor" that killed his
> patient is duly noted....
>
> Dipshit


Didn't say I supported him. The woman is actually the "dipshit" for trying to abort a 33 week old fetus. Show some common sense, people. I am pro-choice all the way, and this woman exercised her right to have a private medical procedure. Unfortunately, it didn't work out in her favor. These things happen. Still doesn't mean that abortion isn't safe. Just wasn't safe for her. And you can call me dipshit all you want, and I will still think that abortion should be safe and legal for all.

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Re: Abortion is safe!
Posted by: Welcome! ()
Date: February 08, 2013 04:22PM

Thanks! Wrote:
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> Weclome! Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Your support for a "Doctor" that killed his
> > patient is duly noted....
>
> Sometimes, patients die. It's not necessarily
> anyone's fault.


Performing risky procedures such as a four day long abortion doesn't help. This "Doctor" should know to do no harm.

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Re: Abortion is safe!
Posted by: Welcome! ()
Date: February 08, 2013 04:25PM

Thanks! Wrote:
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> Didn't say I supported him. The woman is actually
> the "dipshit" for trying to abort a 33 week old
> fetus. Show some common sense, people.

Like the common sense the "Doctor" exhibited when he performed a procedure that killed his patient?

> I am
> pro-choice all the way, and this woman exercised
> her right to have a private medical procedure.
> Unfortunately, it didn't work out in her favor.
> These things happen.

It wouldn't have happened had she not had the procedure.

> Still doesn't mean that
> abortion isn't safe.

Tell that to her family.

> Just wasn't safe for her.
> And you can call me dipshit all you want, and I
> will still think that abortion should be safe and
> legal for all.

And you will still be a dipshit. What's the matter? Only you are allowed to hurl the insults?

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Re: Abortion is safe!
Posted by: Doc Holloway ()
Date: February 08, 2013 04:34PM

An abortion @ 33 weeks?

The procedure was performed to ry and save the woman's life, because w/o it she would have died anyway.

Medicine isn't a miricle and not every course of treatment is successful.

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Re: Abortion is safe!
Posted by: r u kidding me ()
Date: February 08, 2013 05:49PM

Thanks! Wrote:
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> Weclome! Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Your support for a "Doctor" that killed his
> > patient is duly noted....
>
> Sometimes, patients die. It's not necessarily
> anyone's fault.


Except for the baby who always dies in an abortion. But hey not the baby's fault either. No one has to take responsibility for anything.

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Re: Abortion is safe!
Posted by: 4 days in the hole ()
Date: February 08, 2013 08:49PM

It describes it as being a 4 day abortion, in the original post.

What the hell is that?

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Re: Abortion is safe!
Posted by: Dr Bombay ()
Date: February 08, 2013 08:58PM

Doc Holloway Wrote:
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> An abortion @ 33 weeks?
>
> The procedure was performed to ry and save the
> woman's life, because w/o it she would have died
> anyway.
>

Where does it say that?

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Re: Abortion is safe!
Posted by: Yngwie ()
Date: February 08, 2013 09:15PM

PIcs or GTFO.

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Re: Abortion is safe!
Posted by: Legg Mason ()
Date: February 10, 2013 02:27PM

I don't agree abortion is 100% safe but it is 100% needed. Late term abortions as well as killing people who are already alive is much needed these days.

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Re: Abortion is safe!
Posted by: Vexxxed ()
Date: February 10, 2013 07:25PM

Safe for who?

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