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Charging Obama with Fraud
Posted by: He lied ()
Date: November 09, 2013 02:44PM

A very good article that lays out a compelling argument for charging Obama with fraud:
http://www.nationalreview.com/article/363538/obamas-massive-fraud-andrew-c-mccarthy

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Re: Charging Obama with Fraud
Posted by: monkeys, flying out the butt ()
Date: November 09, 2013 02:50PM

He lied Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> A very good article that lays out a compelling
> argument for charging Obama with fraud:
> http://www.nationalreview.com/article/363538/obama
> s-massive-fraud-andrew-c-mccarthy


and that will happen, because George W. Bush was impeached for lying about why he led the country into war with Iraq.

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Re: Charging Obama with Fraud
Posted by: ha ha ha ()
Date: November 09, 2013 02:53PM

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Re: Charging Obama with Fraud
Posted by: Do your research ()
Date: November 09, 2013 02:57PM

It always comes back to Bush with the Libs.
President Bush used the same intelligent reports as did the Democrats who decided not to read the reports and still voted for the war!

"Iraq's search for weapons of mass destruction has proven impossible to deter and we should assume that it will continue for as long as Saddam is in power."
-- Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002
"We have known for many years that Saddam Hussein is seeking and developing weapons of mass destruction."
-- Sen. Ted Kennedy (D, MA), Sept. 27, 2002
"The last UN weapons inspectors left Iraq in October of 1998. We are confident that Saddam Hussein retains some stockpiles of chemical and biological weapons, and that he has since embarked on a crash course to build up his chemical and biological warfare capabilities. Intelligence reports indicate that he is seeking nuclear weapons..."
-- Sen. Robert Byrd (D, WV), Oct. 3, 2002
"I will be voting to give the President of the United States the authority to use force -- if necessary -- to disarm Saddam Hussein because I believe that a deadly arsenal of weapons of mass destruction in his hands is a real and grave threat to our security."
-- Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Oct. 9, 2002
"There is unmistakable evidence that Saddam Hussein is working aggressively to develop nuclear weapons and will likely have nuclear weapons within the next five years ... We also should remember we have always underestimated the progress Saddam has made in development of weapons of mass destruction."
-- Sen. Jay Rockefeller (D, WV), Oct 10, 2002
"He has systematically violated, over the course of the past 11 years, every significant UN resolution that has demanded that he disarm and destroy his chemical and biological weapons, and any nuclear capacity. This he has refused to do"
-- Rep. Henry Waxman (D, CA), Oct. 10, 2002
"In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports show that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological weapons stock, his missile delivery capability, and his nuclear program. He has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists, including al Qaeda members ... It is clear, however, that if left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capacity to wage biological and chemical warfare, and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons."
-- Sen. Hillary Clinton (D, NY), Oct 10, 2002
"We are in possession of what I think to be compelling evidence that Saddam Hussein has, and has had for a number of years, a developing capacity for the production and storage of weapons of mass destruction."
-- Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL), Dec. 8, 2002
"Without question, we need to disarm Saddam Hussein. He is a brutal, murderous dictator, leading an oppressive regime ... He presents a particularly grievous threat because he is so consistently prone to miscalculation ... And now he is miscalculating America's response to his continued deceit and his consistent grasp for weapons of mass destruction ... So the threat of Saddam Hussein with weapons of mass destruction is real..."
-- Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Jan. 23. 2003

So, if Bush lied.... then we have a lot of Dems here as well.

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Re: Charging Obama with Fraud
Posted by: Liberal Logic 29 ()
Date: November 09, 2013 03:07PM

monkeys, flying out the butt Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> He lied Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > A very good article that lays out a compelling
> > argument for charging Obama with fraud:
> >
> http://www.nationalreview.com/article/363538/obama
>
> > s-massive-fraud-andrew-c-mccarthy
>
>
> and that will happen, because George W. Bush was
> impeached for lying about why he led the country
> into war with Iraq.

Guess Hilliary and Kerry should have been too then right?

Still playing the old Bush card.

I guess while were on the subject how much of a partisan hack do you have to be to say Bush lied when the whole world was saying the same thing, yet Obama on tape last month isnt a lie to you. Now hes telling you what he said which is different then the tapes show and you believe it. My god.

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Re: Charging Obama with Fraud
Posted by: cut the crap ()
Date: November 09, 2013 03:20PM

Do your research Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> It always comes back to Bush with the Libs.
> President Bush used the same intelligent reports
> as did the Democrats who decided not to read the
> reports and still voted for the war!
>
> "Iraq's search for weapons of mass destruction has
> proven impossible to deter and we should assume
> that it will continue for as long as Saddam is in
> power."
> -- Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002
> "We have known for many years that Saddam Hussein
> is seeking and developing weapons of mass
> destruction."
> -- Sen. Ted Kennedy (D, MA), Sept. 27, 2002
> "The last UN weapons inspectors left Iraq in
> October of 1998. We are confident that Saddam
> Hussein retains some stockpiles of chemical and
> biological weapons, and that he has since embarked
> on a crash course to build up his chemical and
> biological warfare capabilities. Intelligence
> reports indicate that he is seeking nuclear
> weapons..."
> -- Sen. Robert Byrd (D, WV), Oct. 3, 2002
> "I will be voting to give the President of the
> United States the authority to use force -- if
> necessary -- to disarm Saddam Hussein because I
> believe that a deadly arsenal of weapons of mass
> destruction in his hands is a real and grave
> threat to our security."
> -- Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Oct. 9, 2002
> "There is unmistakable evidence that Saddam
> Hussein is working aggressively to develop nuclear
> weapons and will likely have nuclear weapons
> within the next five years ... We also should
> remember we have always underestimated the
> progress Saddam has made in development of weapons
> of mass destruction."
> -- Sen. Jay Rockefeller (D, WV), Oct 10, 2002
> "He has systematically violated, over the course
> of the past 11 years, every significant UN
> resolution that has demanded that he disarm and
> destroy his chemical and biological weapons, and
> any nuclear capacity. This he has refused to do"
> -- Rep. Henry Waxman (D, CA), Oct. 10, 2002
> "In the four years since the inspectors left,
> intelligence reports show that Saddam Hussein has
> worked to rebuild his chemical and biological
> weapons stock, his missile delivery capability,
> and his nuclear program. He has also given aid,
> comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists, including al
> Qaeda members ... It is clear, however, that if
> left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will continue to
> increase his capacity to wage biological and
> chemical warfare, and will keep trying to develop
> nuclear weapons."
> -- Sen. Hillary Clinton (D, NY), Oct 10, 2002
> "We are in possession of what I think to be
> compelling evidence that Saddam Hussein has, and
> has had for a number of years, a developing
> capacity for the production and storage of weapons
> of mass destruction."
> -- Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL), Dec. 8, 2002
> "Without question, we need to disarm Saddam
> Hussein. He is a brutal, murderous dictator,
> leading an oppressive regime ... He presents a
> particularly grievous threat because he is so
> consistently prone to miscalculation ... And now
> he is miscalculating America's response to his
> continued deceit and his consistent grasp for
> weapons of mass destruction ... So the threat of
> Saddam Hussein with weapons of mass destruction is
> real..."
> -- Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Jan. 23. 2003
>
> So, if Bush lied.... then we have a lot of Dems
> here as well.



Fuck the democrats and fuck Obama too. I only bring Bush up to point out how loony and brainwashed you partisan hacks are. We had a president who lied about the reason for going to war...the reason for putting thousands of American lives on the line (I'd mention the Iraqi lives, but I know that won't sit well with the "America, fuck yeah" crowd here). That's pretty god damned serious. And if he didn't face any kind of consequences for what he did (for what his vice president did, really, but whatever), do you really think Obama will face any heat for lying about this healthcare thing? No one faces any heat. It doesn't happen.

And don't you try to tell me it wasn't a lie (about the Iraq war). Even people within the inner circle of that administration have come out and admitted, yes, we probably should've just said this is why we want to go to war, not because of WMD's. Stop trying to defend that. In the end, all they had to support the WMD case was a few aluminum tubes....that was pretty much it. No WMD's were found, the 'yellow cake uranium' Saddam supposedly wanted to buy turned out to be bullshit, there was nothing of substance to support a full-scale invasion of a country and the massive, inevitable loss of life that's still going on today. The country was swept up in post-9/11 fever....maximum security at all costs. That's why the general public gave Bush and his cronies free reign, and congress had no choice but to support it for political reasons. They wanted to keep their seats. That's it. You think voting one way or another has anything to do with 'what's right'? What world are you living in? It's a political game. Colin Powell famously sold out and supported this thing, and since then he's publicly aired his regrets. Do YOUR research. You pick and choose whatever you need to fit your brainwashed ideology.


Go shit in your hat.

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Re: Charging Obama with Fraud
Posted by: cut the crap ()
Date: November 09, 2013 03:22PM

Liberal Logic 29 Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> monkeys, flying out the butt Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > He lied Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > A very good article that lays out a
> compelling
> > > argument for charging Obama with fraud:
> > >
> >
> http://www.nationalreview.com/article/363538/obama
>
> >
> > > s-massive-fraud-andrew-c-mccarthy
> >
> >
> > and that will happen, because George W. Bush
> was
> > impeached for lying about why he led the
> country
> > into war with Iraq.
>
> Guess Hilliary and Kerry should have been too then
> right?
>
> Still playing the old Bush card.
>
> I guess while were on the subject how much of a
> partisan hack do you have to be to say Bush lied
> when the whole world was saying the same thing,
> yet Obama on tape last month isnt a lie to you.
> Now hes telling you what he said which is
> different then the tapes show and you believe it.
> My god.


see above.

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Re: Charging Obama with Fraud
Posted by: Cool down ()
Date: November 09, 2013 03:27PM

cut the crap Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Do your research Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > It always comes back to Bush with the Libs.
> > President Bush used the same intelligent
> reports
> > as did the Democrats who decided not to read
> the
> > reports and still voted for the war!
> >
> > "Iraq's search for weapons of mass destruction
> has
> > proven impossible to deter and we should assume
> > that it will continue for as long as Saddam is
> in
> > power."
> > -- Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002
> > "We have known for many years that Saddam
> Hussein
> > is seeking and developing weapons of mass
> > destruction."
> > -- Sen. Ted Kennedy (D, MA), Sept. 27, 2002
> > "The last UN weapons inspectors left Iraq in
> > October of 1998. We are confident that Saddam
> > Hussein retains some stockpiles of chemical and
> > biological weapons, and that he has since
> embarked
> > on a crash course to build up his chemical and
> > biological warfare capabilities. Intelligence
> > reports indicate that he is seeking nuclear
> > weapons..."
> > -- Sen. Robert Byrd (D, WV), Oct. 3, 2002
> > "I will be voting to give the President of the
> > United States the authority to use force -- if
> > necessary -- to disarm Saddam Hussein because I
> > believe that a deadly arsenal of weapons of
> mass
> > destruction in his hands is a real and grave
> > threat to our security."
> > -- Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Oct. 9, 2002
> > "There is unmistakable evidence that Saddam
> > Hussein is working aggressively to develop
> nuclear
> > weapons and will likely have nuclear weapons
> > within the next five years ... We also should
> > remember we have always underestimated the
> > progress Saddam has made in development of
> weapons
> > of mass destruction."
> > -- Sen. Jay Rockefeller (D, WV), Oct 10, 2002
> > "He has systematically violated, over the
> course
> > of the past 11 years, every significant UN
> > resolution that has demanded that he disarm and
> > destroy his chemical and biological weapons,
> and
> > any nuclear capacity. This he has refused to
> do"
> > -- Rep. Henry Waxman (D, CA), Oct. 10, 2002
> > "In the four years since the inspectors left,
> > intelligence reports show that Saddam Hussein
> has
> > worked to rebuild his chemical and biological
> > weapons stock, his missile delivery capability,
> > and his nuclear program. He has also given aid,
> > comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists, including
> al
> > Qaeda members ... It is clear, however, that if
> > left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will continue to
> > increase his capacity to wage biological and
> > chemical warfare, and will keep trying to
> develop
> > nuclear weapons."
> > -- Sen. Hillary Clinton (D, NY), Oct 10, 2002
> > "We are in possession of what I think to be
> > compelling evidence that Saddam Hussein has,
> and
> > has had for a number of years, a developing
> > capacity for the production and storage of
> weapons
> > of mass destruction."
> > -- Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL), Dec. 8, 2002
> > "Without question, we need to disarm Saddam
> > Hussein. He is a brutal, murderous dictator,
> > leading an oppressive regime ... He presents a
> > particularly grievous threat because he is so
> > consistently prone to miscalculation ... And
> now
> > he is miscalculating America's response to his
> > continued deceit and his consistent grasp for
> > weapons of mass destruction ... So the threat
> of
> > Saddam Hussein with weapons of mass destruction
> is
> > real..."
> > -- Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Jan. 23. 2003
> >
> > So, if Bush lied.... then we have a lot of Dems
> > here as well.
>
>
>
> Fuck the democrats and fuck Obama too. I only
> bring Bush up to point out how loony and
> brainwashed you partisan hacks are. We had a
> president who lied about the reason for going to
> war...the reason for putting thousands of American
> lives on the line (I'd mention the Iraqi lives,
> but I know that won't sit well with the "America,
> fuck yeah" crowd here). That's pretty god damned
> serious. And if he didn't face any kind of
> consequences for what he did (for what his vice
> president did, really, but whatever), do you
> really think Obama will face any heat for lying
> about this healthcare thing? No one faces any
> heat. It doesn't happen.
>
> And don't you try to tell me it wasn't a lie
> (about the Iraq war). Even people within the inner
> circle of that administration have come out and
> admitted, yes, we probably should've just said
> this is why we want to go to war, not because of
> WMD's. Stop trying to defend that. In the end, all
> they had to support the WMD case was a few
> aluminum tubes....that was pretty much it. No
> WMD's were found, the 'yellow cake uranium' Saddam
> supposedly wanted to buy turned out to be
> bullshit, there was nothing of substance to
> support a full-scale invasion of a country and the
> massive, inevitable loss of life that's still
> going on today. The country was swept up in
> post-9/11 fever....maximum security at all costs.
> That's why the general public gave Bush and his
> cronies free reign, and congress had no choice but
> to support it for political reasons. They wanted
> to keep their seats. That's it. You think voting
> one way or another has anything to do with 'what's
> right'? What world are you living in? It's a
> political game. Colin Powell famously sold out and
> supported this thing, and since then he's publicly
> aired his regrets. Do YOUR research. You pick and
> choose whatever you need to fit your brainwashed
> ideology.
>
>
> Go shit in your hat.

Cool down, dude. I am sure your blood pressure is off the chart - hope you have that Obamacare policy in effect.
I realize facts are hard to comprehend. I also realize that reading can be difficult for some..... IF you had read the article, you would see that it ends with the statement that Obama will probably not ever be impeached (NOT because he doesn't deserve it, but because the Dems will cover his ass). But, I would bet the Dems and Obama will pay a price in the next election. Obama doesn't much care, though. He is a lame duck and come 2014, he will be even more lame (if that is possible) with more GOP in office.

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Re: Charging Obama with Fraud
Posted by: ObamaBot ()
Date: November 09, 2013 03:52PM

CGI Federal and QSSI have programmed me to automatically direct all questions concerning Obamacare to this website:

http://www.bushcenter.org/

I am incapable of discussing anything else. Do as you're told. Do not question.

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Re: Charging Obama with Fraud
Posted by: You're confused ()
Date: November 09, 2013 05:45PM

monkeys, flying out the butt Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
>
> and that will happen, because George W. Bush was
> impeached for lying...


That would be Clinton.

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Re: Charging Obama with Fraud
Posted by: Liberal Logic 29 ()
Date: November 09, 2013 05:53PM

cut the crap Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------

> see above.


First and foremost there were 3 months to hide those things where ever he wanted. No one knows that they arent buried somewhere and theres all of a sudden a lot of chemical weapons being used in the middle east, where do you think those probably came from.

Second of all youre having difficultly with the word lie. Lie means you know something is not true, aka Obama keep your plan period or thats not what I said which hes now saying when it was what he said.

EVERYONE in the world had the same intelligence and agreed. Bad intelligence is being WRONG not a LIE. Theres a HUGE difference between being wrong and lying.

You could have said Obama was wrong up until he made the statements denying what he said. Once he tries to back track like that and cover it up it shows he knew exactly what he was doing and his honesty with what he says has to be called into question.

You can say the intelligence Bush had was wrong, but he didnt lie. Everyone of those law makers had the exact same reports who then tried to claim they were duped. Theyre the partisan hacks in this as opposed to doing the right thing and saying you know what maybe they did get it wrong but at the time we did what we felt was right with the reports we had.

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Re: Charging Obama with Fraud
Posted by: DW3Dn ()
Date: November 09, 2013 06:43PM

If we start charging politicians who lie we won't have any politicans.

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Re: Charging Obama with Fraud
Posted by: Correct ()
Date: November 09, 2013 06:49PM

DW3Dn Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> If we start charging politicians who lie we won't
> have any politicans.


Good point. Obama's lies are worse than most in that they are so transparent (so maybe he does have the most transparent presidency) but he continues to lie that he didn't lie. Does he think we are stupid?

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Re: Charging Obama with Fraud
Posted by: Yes! ()
Date: November 09, 2013 07:58PM

Correct Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Does he
> think we are stupid?


Yes.

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Re: Charging Obama with Fraud
Posted by: 8573609 ()
Date: November 09, 2013 09:01PM

Correct Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> DW3Dn Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > If we start charging politicians who lie we
> won't
> > have any politicans.
>
>
> Good point. Obama's lies are worse than most in
> that they are so transparent (so maybe he does
> have the most transparent presidency) but he
> continues to lie that he didn't lie. Does he
> think we are stupid?


No, just you.

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Re: Charging Obama with Fraud
Posted by: Obama doesn't give a shit ()
Date: November 10, 2013 02:36AM

Correct Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------

> Good point. Obama's lies are worse than most in
> that they are so transparent (so maybe he does
> have the most transparent presidency) but he
> continues to lie that he didn't lie. Does he
> think we are stupid?


Obama doesn't care if you know he's lying.

He doesn't care about you.

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Re: Charging Obama with Fraud
Date: November 10, 2013 11:54AM

He lies about everything: Obamacare, IRS scandal, Benghazi etc. etc. etc. No one is ever held accountable for is failed and inept leadership.

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Re: Charging Obama with Fraud
Posted by: lindsyobama ()
Date: November 10, 2013 12:14PM

That is because he is an "Affirmatice action" President.

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Re: Charging Obama with Fraud
Posted by: the fake president ()
Date: November 10, 2013 01:33PM

lindsyobama Wrote:
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> That is because he is an "Affirmatice action"
> President.


This is true.

The only reason this moron is president is because he's black, and anyone who doesn't know that is stupid.

That he is destroying America shouldn't come as a surprise. He's not a big fan of this country.

That he is a liar shouldn't come as a surprise, either. He's a left-wing radical. They all lie.

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Re: Charging Obama with Fraud
Posted by: mark j ()
Date: November 10, 2013 07:47PM

ditto...what the fake president said....

summed up well

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