Just the facts, ma'am Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> acting coach Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Meade, in his first big screen appearance,
> > actually did a very good job, I should say
> > "believable Job" perhaps. Acting the role of a
> > dead person takes a lot of skill, you have to
> > totally let go of muscle control, at times you
> > will actually open up your cloaca orifice and
> > shit, to differentiate from actual sleeping or
> > unconsciousness. I was impressed. 4 stars
>
>
> Actually Meade shitting his britches on stage has
> been well-documented in this very forum.
> http://www.fairfaxunderground.com/forum/read/40/13
> 32829/1368751.html#msg-1368751
>
> I think we must look at the genius of Sean
> McNamera to cast a guy who poops his pants at the
> drop of a hat to add this level of realism to his
> film.


That's to his credit.

At the Movies Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Just the facts, ma'am Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > acting coach Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Meade, in his first big screen appearance,
> > > actually did a very good job, I should say
> > > "believable Job" perhaps. Acting the role of
> a
> > > dead person takes a lot of skill, you have to
> > > totally let go of muscle control, at times
> you
> > > will actually open up your cloaca orifice
> and
> > > shit, to differentiate from actual sleeping
> or
> > > unconsciousness. I was impressed. 4 stars
> >
> >
> > Actually Meade shitting his britches on stage
> has
> > been well-documented in this very forum.
> >
> http://www.fairfaxunderground.com/forum/read/40/13
>
> > 32829/1368751.html#msg-1368751
> >
> > I think we must look at the genius of Sean
> > McNamera to cast a guy who poops his pants at
> the
> > drop of a hat to add this level of realism to
> his
> > film.
>
>
> That's to his credit.


I think one gander at Sean McNamara's 'rotten tomatoes' page gives a clear picture of his genious.

Casting an ex-wife of Jim Carrey and one of the drunken Arquette clan into a civil war drama is just another of his 'winning' combination with gave 'field of lost shoes' a 40% rating. And people wondered who would fill Kubrick'shoes.

http://www.rottentomatoes.com/celebrity/sean_mcnamara/

Meade has recently said he is looking into the "Dinner Theatre" possibilities, also Summer playhouse genre to give his acting career a "kick start". At least those possibilities are not inundated with your Homosexual and Lesbian or Transexual types, they seem to be more normal, his is purported to have said.

You people seem to have an inside knowledge of the dorks bowel dysfunction

Moviebuffs Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> FUNdamental Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Actually, to get an acting credit in a movie,
> you
> > need to speak a line. As soon as one word is
> > spoke, you get your name in the credits. No
> > lines, no credit is the general rule.
> >
> > If Meade doesn't say a word in this movie, he
> is
> > just an extra, and inserted the tag in IMDB
> > himself.
>
> Not true. If you're a featured Extra and appear
> noticeably in a scene, that counts every bit, as
> you're in character. Many actors have had no lines
> but were still credited.


First, are you living in the 1970's? Let me give you some history form an old timer. The Screen Actors Guild (SAG) and The Screen Extra Guild (SEG) merged in 1982. Since then, there has been no such distinction as a "Featured Extra” in Theatrical or Television production. “Featured Extra” was a contract term under the decades defunct old SEG Contract (pre 1982). In that contract, there were different levels of extra work, with different pay rates for each.

First was "General Extra" which was simply a background player.

The next level up was "Featured Extra," which was an extra who appeared in a recognizable close-up for at least 3 seconds.

And then there was "Silent Bit," which was an extra who performed an action that was integral to the scene, but without dialogue.

However, after SEG folded into SAG in 1982, in order to streamline the process, as well as to be concise and consistent, the above contract definitions became nonexistent, and the previous SEG distinctions and pay levels between the different levels of background players were no longer acknowledged.

Today SAG uses the following terms for background players in the TV/Theatrical Contract:

General Background - Person of atmospheric business which includes the normal actions, gestures and facial expressions of the Background Actor’s assignment.

Special Ability Background Actor - Background Actor specifically called and assigned to perform work requiring special skills such as tennis, golf, choreographed social dancing (including square dancing), swimming, skating, riding animals, driving livestock, non-professional singing (in groups of 16 or less), mouthing to playback in groups of 16 or less, professional or organized athletic sports (including officiating and running), amputees, driving which requires a special skill and a special license (such as truck driving but not cab driving), motorcycle driving, insert work, and practical card dealing.

Stand-In - Background Actor used as a substitute for another actor for purposes of focusing shots, setting lights, etc., but is not actually photographed. Stand-Ins may also be used as general background.

Photographic Double - Background Actor who is actually photographed as a substitute for another actor. A General Background Actor who is required to do photographic doubling shall receive the Special Ability rate.

Omnies - Any speech sounds used as general background noise rather than for its meaning. Atmospheric words such as indistinguishable background chatter in a party or restaurant scene.

As you can see, there is no distinction between general crowd extras, and extras who appear in close-up or perform silent bits anymore.

However, occasionally a General Extra will be upgraded to a Principal Contact, if they are given a scripted line of dialogue to say - and sometimes (especially in commercials) if they are recognizable in a close-up. But, this is at the discretion of the producer, and is negotiated between SAG and the producers.

But, once that General Extra is upgraded to Principal, they then become a "Featured Principal." Until then, they are considered General Background. This person had no lines, and had no special ability (or special distinction), in his performance in the film, therefore, he is General Background. General Backgrounds do not get credits.

Hope this clears things up!

Meade dwells in the past.

He was a common extra, no credit given.

But, Meade played a sleeping soldier on the battlefield. How many people do you know who can sleep around all those dead guys? That would be a "special ability, " correct?

Question, here Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> But, Meade played a sleeping soldier on the
> battlefield. How many people do you know who can
> sleep around all those dead guys? That would be a
> "special ability, " correct?


An accomplished actor can sleep anywhere, although one thing Meade loves over anything..is his sleep.

reallyvery Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------


> An accomplished actor can sleep anywhere, although
> one thing Meade loves over anything..is his sleep.


In fact considering the mess he makes when he is awake, Meade is at his best when he is asleep

At his best Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> reallyvery Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
>
>
> > An accomplished actor can sleep anywhere,
> although
> > one thing Meade loves over anything..is his
> sleep.
>
>
> In fact considering the mess he makes when he is
> awake, Meade is at his best when he is asleep


Can't argue that.

I am concerned someone posted on FFU facts and background knowledge to support those facts. Is this the place for civilized debate, or is this the place for speculation, inuendo, and bitching? We need to decide.

concerned at this point Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> I am concerned someone posted on FFU facts and
> background knowledge to support those facts. Is
> this the place for civilized debate, or is this
> the place for speculation, inuendo, and bitching?
> We need to decide.


Fact: Meade is a film star
Fact: Meade is an accomplished musician
Fact: Meade is a video star
Fact: Meade is a popular attraction at many events
Fact: Meade is heterosexual
Fact: Meade has a captivating voice
Fact: Meade is a fitness buff.
Fact: Meade is a popular blogger
Fact: Meade is a popular artist in some Slavic countries.

concerned at this point Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> I am concerned someone posted on FFU facts and
> background knowledge to support those facts. Is
> this the place for civilized debate, or is this
> the place for speculation, inuendo, and bitching?
> We need to decide.


The decision has been made.
Attachments:

An actor Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Moviebuffs Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > FUNdamental Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Actually, to get an acting credit in a movie,
> > you
> > > need to speak a line. As soon as one word is
> > > spoke, you get your name in the credits. No
> > > lines, no credit is the general rule.
> > >
> > > If Meade doesn't say a word in this movie, he
> > is
> > > just an extra, and inserted the tag in IMDB
> > > himself.
> >
> > Not true. If you're a featured Extra and appear
> > noticeably in a scene, that counts every bit,
> as
> > you're in character. Many actors have had no
> lines
> > but were still credited.
>
>
> First, are you living in the 1970's? Let me give
> you some history form an old timer. The Screen
> Actors Guild (SAG) and The Screen Extra Guild
> (SEG) merged in 1982. Since then, there has been
> no such distinction as a "Featured Extra” in
> Theatrical or Television production. “Featured
> Extra” was a contract term under the decades
> defunct old SEG Contract (pre 1982). In that
> contract, there were different levels of extra
> work, with different pay rates for each.
>
> First was "General Extra" which was simply a
> background player.
>
> The next level up was "Featured Extra," which was
> an extra who appeared in a recognizable close-up
> for at least 3 seconds.
>
> And then there was "Silent Bit," which was an
> extra who performed an action that was integral to
> the scene, but without dialogue.
>
> However, after SEG folded into SAG in 1982, in
> order to streamline the process, as well as to be
> concise and consistent, the above contract
> definitions became nonexistent, and the previous
> SEG distinctions and pay levels between the
> different levels of background players were no
> longer acknowledged.
>
> Today SAG uses the following terms for background
> players in the TV/Theatrical Contract:
>
> General Background - Person of atmospheric
> business which includes the normal actions,
> gestures and facial expressions of the Background
> Actor’s assignment.
>
> Special Ability Background Actor - Background
> Actor specifically called and assigned to perform
> work requiring special skills such as tennis,
> golf, choreographed social dancing (including
> square dancing), swimming, skating, riding
> animals, driving livestock, non-professional
> singing (in groups of 16 or less), mouthing to
> playback in groups of 16 or less, professional or
> organized athletic sports (including officiating
> and running), amputees, driving which requires a
> special skill and a special license (such as truck
> driving but not cab driving), motorcycle driving,
> insert work, and practical card dealing.
>
> Stand-In - Background Actor used as a substitute
> for another actor for purposes of focusing shots,
> setting lights, etc., but is not actually
> photographed. Stand-Ins may also be used as
> general background.
>
> Photographic Double - Background Actor who is
> actually photographed as a substitute for another
> actor. A General Background Actor who is required
> to do photographic doubling shall receive the
> Special Ability rate.
>
> Omnies - Any speech sounds used as general
> background noise rather than for its meaning.
> Atmospheric words such as indistinguishable
> background chatter in a party or restaurant
> scene.
>
> As you can see, there is no distinction between
> general crowd extras, and extras who appear in
> close-up or perform silent bits anymore.
>
> However, occasionally a General Extra will be
> upgraded to a Principal Contact, if they are given
> a scripted line of dialogue to say - and sometimes
> (especially in commercials) if they are
> recognizable in a close-up. But, this is at the
> discretion of the producer, and is negotiated
> between SAG and the producers.
>
> But, once that General Extra is upgraded to
> Principal, they then become a "Featured
> Principal." Until then, they are considered
> General Background. This person had no lines,
> and had no special ability (or special
> distinction), in his performance in the film,
> therefore, he is General Background. General
> Backgrounds do not get credits.
>
> Hope this clears things up!

But we did see Meade up close and personal for at least 5 seconds or more in the film- Doesn't that make him a featured extra? His face while on the ground is recozgnizeable, and I'd recognize those curves anywhere.

FilmScreenStarz Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> An actor Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Moviebuffs Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > FUNdamental Wrote:
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > > -----
> > > > Actually, to get an acting credit in a
> movie,
> > > you
> > > > need to speak a line. As soon as one word
> is
> > > > spoke, you get your name in the credits.
> No
> > > > lines, no credit is the general rule.
> > > >
> > > > If Meade doesn't say a word in this movie,
> he
> > > is
> > > > just an extra, and inserted the tag in IMDB
> > > > himself.
> > >
> > > Not true. If you're a featured Extra and
> appear
> > > noticeably in a scene, that counts every bit,
> > as
> > > you're in character. Many actors have had no
> > lines
> > > but were still credited.
> >
> >
> > First, are you living in the 1970's? Let me
> give
> > you some history form an old timer. The Screen
> > Actors Guild (SAG) and The Screen Extra Guild
> > (SEG) merged in 1982. Since then, there has
> been
> > no such distinction as a "Featured Extra” in
> > Theatrical or Television production.
> “Featured
> > Extra” was a contract term under the decades
> > defunct old SEG Contract (pre 1982). In that
> > contract, there were different levels of extra
> > work, with different pay rates for each.
> >
> > First was "General Extra" which was simply a
> > background player.
> >
> > The next level up was "Featured Extra," which
> was
> > an extra who appeared in a recognizable
> close-up
> > for at least 3 seconds.
> >
> > And then there was "Silent Bit," which was an
> > extra who performed an action that was integral
> to
> > the scene, but without dialogue.
> >
> > However, after SEG folded into SAG in 1982, in
> > order to streamline the process, as well as to
> be
> > concise and consistent, the above contract
> > definitions became nonexistent, and the
> previous
> > SEG distinctions and pay levels between the
> > different levels of background players were no
> > longer acknowledged.
> >
> > Today SAG uses the following terms for
> background
> > players in the TV/Theatrical Contract:
> >
> > General Background - Person of atmospheric
> > business which includes the normal actions,
> > gestures and facial expressions of the
> Background
> > Actor’s assignment.
> >
> > Special Ability Background Actor - Background
> > Actor specifically called and assigned to
> perform
> > work requiring special skills such as tennis,
> > golf, choreographed social dancing (including
> > square dancing), swimming, skating, riding
> > animals, driving livestock, non-professional
> > singing (in groups of 16 or less), mouthing to
> > playback in groups of 16 or less, professional
> or
> > organized athletic sports (including
> officiating
> > and running), amputees, driving which requires
> a
> > special skill and a special license (such as
> truck
> > driving but not cab driving), motorcycle
> driving,
> > insert work, and practical card dealing.
> >
> > Stand-In - Background Actor used as a
> substitute
> > for another actor for purposes of focusing
> shots,
> > setting lights, etc., but is not actually
> > photographed. Stand-Ins may also be used as
> > general background.
> >
> > Photographic Double - Background Actor who is
> > actually photographed as a substitute for
> another
> > actor. A General Background Actor who is
> required
> > to do photographic doubling shall receive the
> > Special Ability rate.
> >
> > Omnies - Any speech sounds used as general
> > background noise rather than for its meaning.
> > Atmospheric words such as indistinguishable
> > background chatter in a party or restaurant
> > scene.
> >
> > As you can see, there is no distinction between
> > general crowd extras, and extras who appear in
> > close-up or perform silent bits anymore.
> >
> > However, occasionally a General Extra will be
> > upgraded to a Principal Contact, if they are
> given
> > a scripted line of dialogue to say - and
> sometimes
> > (especially in commercials) if they are
> > recognizable in a close-up. But, this is at the
> > discretion of the producer, and is negotiated
> > between SAG and the producers.
> >
> > But, once that General Extra is upgraded to
> > Principal, they then become a "Featured
> > Principal." Until then, they are considered
> > General Background. This person had no lines,
> > and had no special ability (or special
> > distinction), in his performance in the film,
> > therefore, he is General Background. General
> > Backgrounds do not get credits.
> >
> > Hope this clears things up!
>
> But we did see Meade up close and personal for at
> least 5 seconds or more in the film- Doesn't that
> make him a featured extra? His face while on the
> ground is recozgnizeable [sic], and I'd recognize those
> curves anywhere.

Currently, there is no category defined as "Featured Extra" by SAG, according to the earlier poster who appears to have a lot of knowledge on this issue. Meade's role didn't fit in any other Extra category, as defined by SAG, and expalined by by the actor, and Meade didn't have a line. Therefore, Meade's role could only be defined as "General Background Extra." With the end result of Meade not getting in the credits, it appears the actor knows the reasoning behind that decision, and the actor explained the SAG policy behind it. Thank you, actor!

Let's stop with this "Featured Extra" nonsense. Just because Meade got some close up camera time, shouldn't distinguish him from all the other extras.

Regardless of all that mumble jumble posted above on "who went where and who did this or that" Meade stood out, he had a certain "presence", that sometimes happened. The program "happy days" was a vehicle designed for Ron Howard originally, he was the star, what happened was Fonzie proved to be more charismatic. The same situation applies to Meade's first big screen appearance, he stole the ending (not the entire movie mind you), you came away thinking to yourself: " that dead Yankee in the battle ground scene was really a good shot", "I wonder who played him?"

meade stands out Wrote:

" that dead Yankee
> in the battle ground scene was really a good
> shot", "I wonder who played him?"


We are talking about a film that was a box-office and critical flop.
Ain't nobody is asking themselves anything while watching that movie except perhaps "When will this be over"?

I wouldn't be surprised if some of the extras credited were asking to get their names stricken off the film.

http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/field_of_lost_shoes/

http://www.villagevoice.com/film/civil-war-drama-field-of-lost-shoes-argues-no-confederates-were-racist-6442799
Attachments:

meade stands out Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Regardless of all that mumble jumble posted above
> on "who went where and who did this or that" Meade
> stood out, he had a certain "presence", that
> sometimes happened. The program "happy days" was
> a vehicle designed for Ron Howard originally, he
> was the star, what happened was Fonzie proved to
> be more charismatic. The same situation applies
> to Meade's first big screen appearance, he stole
> the ending (not the entire movie mind you), you
> came away thinking to yourself: " that dead Yankee
> in the battle ground scene was really a good
> shot", "I wonder who played him?"


I asked "why the heck is that goofball sleeping on the battlefield?"

I concur.

He would have been able to lay more convincingly if he wasn't morbidly obese.

Meade should have not been wearing a hat in his famous death scene, the hat obviously should have fallen off. Other then that his acting was superb! I say "Bravo" Meade for pulling it off and making it look so authentic, Meade obviously is an actor who can take great direction. In acting, as in life, it is the little things that mean so much, everything in that scene is perfectly placed, "touche" Meade for proofing that critics wrong and showing what a multitalented individual you are.

There is one shot of Meade in the final movie.
To get motivation for his part he just thought about his music career.""
Attachments:

He sang Pork & Gristle in that one youtube short a few years ago, the one about Rocket's Landing

Meade was chosen for that scene because of his boyish good looks, a actor who looked say like Miz or even eesh or even liz would not have garnered any emotion from the viewing audience. Meade caused many a dry eye to flow with tears. He made the emotional statement that war is hell just by lying in the muck.

sterere Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Meade was chosen for that scene because of his
> boyish good looks, a actor who looked say like Miz
> or even eesh or even liz would not have garnered
> any emotion from the viewing audience. Meade
> caused many a dry eye to flow with tears. He made
> the emotional statement that war is hell just by
> lying in the muck.


"Many a dry eye to flow with tears" assumes many people saw that turkey.

Also, NEWS FLASH Eesh and Liz haven't spent the last 20 years pursuing a career in the entertainment industry nor put 'actor' on their resume.
Attachments:

I would love to see Chris Burke to play Meade Skelton in a Lifetime movie.

been saying that all along Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> concerned at this point Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > I am concerned someone posted on FFU facts and
> > background knowledge to support those facts. Is
> > this the place for civilized debate, or is this
> > the place for speculation, inuendo, and
> bitching?
> > We need to decide.
>
>
> Fact: Meade is a film star
> Fact: Meade is an accomplished musician
> Fact: Meade is a video star
> Fact: Meade is a popular attraction at many
> events
> Fact: Meade is heterosexual
> Fact: Meade has a captivating voice
> Fact: Meade is a fitness buff.
> Fact: Meade is a popular blogger
> Fact: Meade is a popular artist in some Slavic
> countries.

Two years later, we have learned to call these "alternative facts".

#1 Meade Fan Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> been saying that all along Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > concerned at this point Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > I am concerned someone posted on FFU facts
> and
> > > background knowledge to support those facts.
> Is
> > > this the place for civilized debate, or is
> this
> > > the place for speculation, inuendo, and
> > bitching?
> > > We need to decide.
> >
> >
> > Fact: Meade is a film star
> > Fact: Meade is an accomplished musician
> > Fact: Meade is a video star
> > Fact: Meade is a popular attraction at many
> > events
> > Fact: Meade is heterosexual
> > Fact: Meade has a captivating voice
> > Fact: Meade is a fitness buff.
> > Fact: Meade is a popular blogger
> > Fact: Meade is a popular artist in some Slavic
> > countries.
>
> Two years later, we have learned to call these
> "alternative facts".

Meade went through puberty 25 years ago and has never tried to have sex with women. Is it really realistic to call him heterosexual?
Attachments:

Curious and curiouser Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> #1 Meade Fan Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > been saying that all along Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > concerned at this point Wrote:
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > > -----
> > > > I am concerned someone posted on FFU facts
> > and
> > > > background knowledge to support those
> facts.
> > Is
> > > > this the place for civilized debate, or is
> > this
> > > > the place for speculation, inuendo, and
> > > bitching?
> > > > We need to decide.
> > >
> > >
> > > Fact: Meade is a film star
> > > Fact: Meade is an accomplished musician
> > > Fact: Meade is a video star
> > > Fact: Meade is a popular attraction at many
> > > events
> > > Fact: Meade is heterosexual
> > > Fact: Meade has a captivating voice
> > > Fact: Meade is a fitness buff.
> > > Fact: Meade is a popular blogger
> > > Fact: Meade is a popular artist in some
> Slavic
> > > countries.
> >
> > Two years later, we have learned to call these
> > "alternative facts".
>
> Meade went through puberty 25 years ago and has
> never tried to have sex with women. Is it really
> realistic to call him heterosexual?


25 years ago he was 13.

LollyPolly Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
.
> >
> > Meade went through puberty 25 years ago and has
> > never tried to have sex with women. Is it
> really
> > realistic to call him heterosexual?
>
>
> 25 years ago he was 13.


Exactly, and unless Meade has more congenital issues than he has mentioned, he went through puberty around the age of 13.

Obviously, if you like Meade's music, reality isn't your strong suit.
Attachments:

Hollywoodcalled Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> He stars in the movie "Field Of Lost Shoes". Its
> about some guys that lose their shoes. Also in the
> movie will be David Arquette, Lauren Holly, and
> Disney channel favorite Luke Benward!
>
> http://www.imdb.com/name/nm4396714/



So isn't about time Meade makes a second film?

Moviebuffs Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> FUNdamental Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Actually, to get an acting credit in a movie,
> you
> > need to speak a line. As soon as one word is
> > spoke, you get your name in the credits. No
> > lines, no credit is the general rule.
> >
> > If Meade doesn't say a word in this movie, he
> is
> > just an extra, and inserted the tag in IMDB
> > himself.
>
> Not true. If you're a featured Extra and appear
> noticeably in a scene, that counts every bit, as
> you're in character. Many actors have had no lines
> but were still credited.


that's discrimination against people who are either deaf,dumb or blind. Never be allowed.

I read somewhere Meade is going to replace Bruce Willis in the Die Hard series. I wonder if he will shave his head

ahruhruhruhruh posting in 2023!!!

would have been a better pick Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> He could have played the lead in the movie "The
> Wrestler" that stared Mickey Rourke. Just a
> little makeup to appear older and hide his boyish
> good looks.


Aronofsky directed "The Wrestler". It comes out that he was going to offer Meade the title role in "The Whale". Meade spent over ten years gaining weight to prepare for that role. Aronofsky then handed that part to that flash in the pan Brendan Frase

The entertainment industry is soulless. Meade should be happy, he was a complete failure in it.

It was a pleasure to work with Meade. I wish he would call me.



https://youtu.be/fUjcWtA3C-s?si=4L_T-mKv0kLFtuvd

everytime that film is shown on TV he gets a few bucks. Not much but still more than his PT take home.