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Why President Obama Deserves the Nobel Prize
Posted by:
liberal logic 27
()
Date: September 13, 2013 03:39PM
This week President Obama removed all doubt that he deserved the Nobel Peace Prize by turning Republicans against war.
With polls showing majorities of Americans not in favor of any U.S. military action in Syria and the Tea Party's entire existence being dedicated to being against anything President Obama is for, Republican after Republican has come out to say that they are opposed to a strike on Syria.
America has become skeptical of claims about weapons of mass destruction, skeptical that any war in the Middle East can be "won," skeptical that the American government has anyone's best interests at heart except the military-industrial complex that wins every time we fire a missile.
This skepticism can be traced back to exactly one event in human history: The Iraq War.
The premise, execution and fallout of the war that George W. Bush and Dick Cheney told us we had to wage in response to the 9/11 attacks turned out to be so faulty and toxic that it would be insane if America weren't skeptical of another military engagement that had any similarities to Iraq.
Of course, any similarities are superficial and misleading.
Bush and Cheney spent more than a year selling America on the war. President Obama spent a similar amount of time keeping America out of Syria. There was no civil war or al-Qaeda in Iraq... until we invaded. A civil war has been raging in Syria for years with al-Qaeda and its barbarism becoming more prominent, as Syria's Bashar al-Assad massacred tens of thousands of people around them. Reports about Iraq's weapons of mass destruction -- especially its nuclear weapons program, which was the main justification for the war -- were trumped up at best and falsified at worst. The evidence of chemical weapons being used in Syria is clear and leads to two simple questions: By whom? And why now?
But as the White House prepares to make its case that Assad has violated international norms and will do so again unless we engage in limited strikes, Karl Rove has a point to make.
Obama's policies leave longing for decisive George W. RT if you agree. http://t.co/SkY7Go4yIY
-- Karl Rove (@KarlRove) September 6, 2013
LOL. It looks like .0000009 percent of America agrees, Karl.
Rove earned his official George W. Bush nickname "Turd Blossom" by turning Bush's disasters into victories.
After 9/11, Rove used the trauma of the worst terrorist attack on the U.S. homeland ever to sell another tax break for the rich. When that worked, he used the selling of the Iraq War to help Republicans win seats in the House and the Senate.
After George W. Bush presided over the worst financial disaster in a half-century, Rove helped Republicans use the economic misery that had been created to attack President Obama for not fixing the economy fast enough, putting more Republicans in elected office in 2010 than at any time since the New Deal.
A decade after the Iraq War began, even our allies distrust American power. The United Kingdom is afraid of any association with the "lapdog" role some accused former prime minister Tony Blair of playing when he joined Bush and Cheney on their Iraq adventure. And most Americans are sure that any military campaign in the Middle East must have some dark agenda and a flood of unforeseen consequences that make it not worth considering.
This is all comes to us thanks to George W. Bush.
Since Republicans suddenly care about polls, The Washington Post's Greg Sargent points out that they show America doesn't miss George W. Bush. A majority of Americans see the Iraq war as a mistake. And 69 percent blame President Bush for our economic problems either moderately or a "great deal," far more than President Obama. The younger Bush is our least popular living president, with a favorable rating 20 percent below Jimmy Carter, according to the most recent polls.
This is why America scoffed when Mitt Romney surrounded himself with former Bush/Cheney advisors. This is why Karl Rove being for the intervention in Syria is one of the reasons that liberals are so eager to oppose it.
"Time should not soften what President George W. Bush, and his apologists, did in an eight-year war costing the United States more than a trillion dollars, 4,400 American soldiers dead and the displacement of two million Iraqis," Timothy Egan wrote in The New York Times.
Syria has proven that time hasn't softened any of the skepticism Bush created.
It should also remind us of the person who missed George W. Bush most: Osama bin Laden.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jason-sattler/why-president-obama-deser_b_3896183.html
With polls showing majorities of Americans not in favor of any U.S. military action in Syria and the Tea Party's entire existence being dedicated to being against anything President Obama is for, Republican after Republican has come out to say that they are opposed to a strike on Syria.
America has become skeptical of claims about weapons of mass destruction, skeptical that any war in the Middle East can be "won," skeptical that the American government has anyone's best interests at heart except the military-industrial complex that wins every time we fire a missile.
This skepticism can be traced back to exactly one event in human history: The Iraq War.
The premise, execution and fallout of the war that George W. Bush and Dick Cheney told us we had to wage in response to the 9/11 attacks turned out to be so faulty and toxic that it would be insane if America weren't skeptical of another military engagement that had any similarities to Iraq.
Of course, any similarities are superficial and misleading.
Bush and Cheney spent more than a year selling America on the war. President Obama spent a similar amount of time keeping America out of Syria. There was no civil war or al-Qaeda in Iraq... until we invaded. A civil war has been raging in Syria for years with al-Qaeda and its barbarism becoming more prominent, as Syria's Bashar al-Assad massacred tens of thousands of people around them. Reports about Iraq's weapons of mass destruction -- especially its nuclear weapons program, which was the main justification for the war -- were trumped up at best and falsified at worst. The evidence of chemical weapons being used in Syria is clear and leads to two simple questions: By whom? And why now?
But as the White House prepares to make its case that Assad has violated international norms and will do so again unless we engage in limited strikes, Karl Rove has a point to make.
Obama's policies leave longing for decisive George W. RT if you agree. http://t.co/SkY7Go4yIY
-- Karl Rove (@KarlRove) September 6, 2013
LOL. It looks like .0000009 percent of America agrees, Karl.
Rove earned his official George W. Bush nickname "Turd Blossom" by turning Bush's disasters into victories.
After 9/11, Rove used the trauma of the worst terrorist attack on the U.S. homeland ever to sell another tax break for the rich. When that worked, he used the selling of the Iraq War to help Republicans win seats in the House and the Senate.
After George W. Bush presided over the worst financial disaster in a half-century, Rove helped Republicans use the economic misery that had been created to attack President Obama for not fixing the economy fast enough, putting more Republicans in elected office in 2010 than at any time since the New Deal.
A decade after the Iraq War began, even our allies distrust American power. The United Kingdom is afraid of any association with the "lapdog" role some accused former prime minister Tony Blair of playing when he joined Bush and Cheney on their Iraq adventure. And most Americans are sure that any military campaign in the Middle East must have some dark agenda and a flood of unforeseen consequences that make it not worth considering.
This is all comes to us thanks to George W. Bush.
Since Republicans suddenly care about polls, The Washington Post's Greg Sargent points out that they show America doesn't miss George W. Bush. A majority of Americans see the Iraq war as a mistake. And 69 percent blame President Bush for our economic problems either moderately or a "great deal," far more than President Obama. The younger Bush is our least popular living president, with a favorable rating 20 percent below Jimmy Carter, according to the most recent polls.
This is why America scoffed when Mitt Romney surrounded himself with former Bush/Cheney advisors. This is why Karl Rove being for the intervention in Syria is one of the reasons that liberals are so eager to oppose it.
"Time should not soften what President George W. Bush, and his apologists, did in an eight-year war costing the United States more than a trillion dollars, 4,400 American soldiers dead and the displacement of two million Iraqis," Timothy Egan wrote in The New York Times.
Syria has proven that time hasn't softened any of the skepticism Bush created.
It should also remind us of the person who missed George W. Bush most: Osama bin Laden.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jason-sattler/why-president-obama-deser_b_3896183.html
Re: Why President Obama Deserves the Nobel Prize
Posted by:
Ralph Pootawn
()
Date: September 13, 2013 03:42PM
liberal logic 27 Wrote:
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> This week President Obama removed all doubt that
> he deserved the Nobel Peace Prize by turning
> Republicans against war.
>
> With polls showing majorities of Americans not in
> favor of any U.S. military action in Syria and the
> Tea Party's entire existence being dedicated to
> being against anything President Obama is for,
> Republican after Republican has come out to say
> that they are opposed to a strike on Syria.
>
> America has become skeptical of claims about
> weapons of mass destruction, skeptical that any
> war in the Middle East can be "won," skeptical
> that the American government has anyone's best
> interests at heart except the military-industrial
> complex that wins every time we fire a missile.
>
> This skepticism can be traced back to exactly one
> event in human history: The Iraq War.
>
> The premise, execution and fallout of the war that
> George W. Bush and Dick Cheney told us we had to
> wage in response to the 9/11 attacks turned out to
> be so faulty and toxic that it would be insane if
> America weren't skeptical of another military
> engagement that had any similarities to Iraq.
>
> Of course, any similarities are superficial and
> misleading.
>
> Bush and Cheney spent more than a year selling
> America on the war. President Obama spent a
> similar amount of time keeping America out of
> Syria. There was no civil war or al-Qaeda in
> Iraq... until we invaded. A civil war has been
> raging in Syria for years with al-Qaeda and its
> barbarism becoming more prominent, as Syria's
> Bashar al-Assad massacred tens of thousands of
> people around them. Reports about Iraq's weapons
> of mass destruction -- especially its nuclear
> weapons program, which was the main justification
> for the war -- were trumped up at best and
> falsified at worst. The evidence of chemical
> weapons being used in Syria is clear and leads to
> two simple questions: By whom? And why now?
>
> But as the White House prepares to make its case
> that Assad has violated international norms and
> will do so again unless we engage in limited
> strikes, Karl Rove has a point to make.
>
> Obama's policies leave longing for decisive George
> W. RT if you agree. http://t.co/SkY7Go4yIY
> -- Karl Rove (@KarlRove) September 6, 2013
>
> LOL. It looks like .0000009 percent of America
> agrees, Karl.
>
> Rove earned his official George W. Bush nickname
> "Turd Blossom" by turning Bush's disasters into
> victories.
>
> After 9/11, Rove used the trauma of the worst
> terrorist attack on the U.S. homeland ever to sell
> another tax break for the rich. When that worked,
> he used the selling of the Iraq War to help
> Republicans win seats in the House and the
> Senate.
>
> After George W. Bush presided over the worst
> financial disaster in a half-century, Rove helped
> Republicans use the economic misery that had been
> created to attack President Obama for not fixing
> the economy fast enough, putting more Republicans
> in elected office in 2010 than at any time since
> the New Deal.
>
> A decade after the Iraq War began, even our allies
> distrust American power. The United Kingdom is
> afraid of any association with the "lapdog" role
> some accused former prime minister Tony Blair of
> playing when he joined Bush and Cheney on their
> Iraq adventure. And most Americans are sure that
> any military campaign in the Middle East must have
> some dark agenda and a flood of unforeseen
> consequences that make it not worth considering.
>
> This is all comes to us thanks to George W. Bush.
>
> Since Republicans suddenly care about polls, The
> Washington Post's Greg Sargent points out that
> they show America doesn't miss George W. Bush. A
> majority of Americans see the Iraq war as a
> mistake. And 69 percent blame President Bush for
> our economic problems either moderately or a
> "great deal," far more than President Obama. The
> younger Bush is our least popular living
> president, with a favorable rating 20 percent
> below Jimmy Carter, according to the most recent
> polls.
>
> This is why America scoffed when Mitt Romney
> surrounded himself with former Bush/Cheney
> advisors. This is why Karl Rove being for the
> intervention in Syria is one of the reasons that
> liberals are so eager to oppose it.
>
> "Time should not soften what President George W.
> Bush, and his apologists, did in an eight-year war
> costing the United States more than a trillion
> dollars, 4,400 American soldiers dead and the
> displacement of two million Iraqis," Timothy Egan
> wrote in The New York Times.
>
> Syria has proven that time hasn't softened any of
> the skepticism Bush created.
>
> It should also remind us of the person who missed
> George W. Bush most: Osama bin Laden.
>
> http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jason-sattler/why-pr
> esident-obama-deser_b_3896183.html
Attachments:
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> This week President Obama removed all doubt that
> he deserved the Nobel Peace Prize by turning
> Republicans against war.
>
> With polls showing majorities of Americans not in
> favor of any U.S. military action in Syria and the
> Tea Party's entire existence being dedicated to
> being against anything President Obama is for,
> Republican after Republican has come out to say
> that they are opposed to a strike on Syria.
>
> America has become skeptical of claims about
> weapons of mass destruction, skeptical that any
> war in the Middle East can be "won," skeptical
> that the American government has anyone's best
> interests at heart except the military-industrial
> complex that wins every time we fire a missile.
>
> This skepticism can be traced back to exactly one
> event in human history: The Iraq War.
>
> The premise, execution and fallout of the war that
> George W. Bush and Dick Cheney told us we had to
> wage in response to the 9/11 attacks turned out to
> be so faulty and toxic that it would be insane if
> America weren't skeptical of another military
> engagement that had any similarities to Iraq.
>
> Of course, any similarities are superficial and
> misleading.
>
> Bush and Cheney spent more than a year selling
> America on the war. President Obama spent a
> similar amount of time keeping America out of
> Syria. There was no civil war or al-Qaeda in
> Iraq... until we invaded. A civil war has been
> raging in Syria for years with al-Qaeda and its
> barbarism becoming more prominent, as Syria's
> Bashar al-Assad massacred tens of thousands of
> people around them. Reports about Iraq's weapons
> of mass destruction -- especially its nuclear
> weapons program, which was the main justification
> for the war -- were trumped up at best and
> falsified at worst. The evidence of chemical
> weapons being used in Syria is clear and leads to
> two simple questions: By whom? And why now?
>
> But as the White House prepares to make its case
> that Assad has violated international norms and
> will do so again unless we engage in limited
> strikes, Karl Rove has a point to make.
>
> Obama's policies leave longing for decisive George
> W. RT if you agree. http://t.co/SkY7Go4yIY
> -- Karl Rove (@KarlRove) September 6, 2013
>
> LOL. It looks like .0000009 percent of America
> agrees, Karl.
>
> Rove earned his official George W. Bush nickname
> "Turd Blossom" by turning Bush's disasters into
> victories.
>
> After 9/11, Rove used the trauma of the worst
> terrorist attack on the U.S. homeland ever to sell
> another tax break for the rich. When that worked,
> he used the selling of the Iraq War to help
> Republicans win seats in the House and the
> Senate.
>
> After George W. Bush presided over the worst
> financial disaster in a half-century, Rove helped
> Republicans use the economic misery that had been
> created to attack President Obama for not fixing
> the economy fast enough, putting more Republicans
> in elected office in 2010 than at any time since
> the New Deal.
>
> A decade after the Iraq War began, even our allies
> distrust American power. The United Kingdom is
> afraid of any association with the "lapdog" role
> some accused former prime minister Tony Blair of
> playing when he joined Bush and Cheney on their
> Iraq adventure. And most Americans are sure that
> any military campaign in the Middle East must have
> some dark agenda and a flood of unforeseen
> consequences that make it not worth considering.
>
> This is all comes to us thanks to George W. Bush.
>
> Since Republicans suddenly care about polls, The
> Washington Post's Greg Sargent points out that
> they show America doesn't miss George W. Bush. A
> majority of Americans see the Iraq war as a
> mistake. And 69 percent blame President Bush for
> our economic problems either moderately or a
> "great deal," far more than President Obama. The
> younger Bush is our least popular living
> president, with a favorable rating 20 percent
> below Jimmy Carter, according to the most recent
> polls.
>
> This is why America scoffed when Mitt Romney
> surrounded himself with former Bush/Cheney
> advisors. This is why Karl Rove being for the
> intervention in Syria is one of the reasons that
> liberals are so eager to oppose it.
>
> "Time should not soften what President George W.
> Bush, and his apologists, did in an eight-year war
> costing the United States more than a trillion
> dollars, 4,400 American soldiers dead and the
> displacement of two million Iraqis," Timothy Egan
> wrote in The New York Times.
>
> Syria has proven that time hasn't softened any of
> the skepticism Bush created.
>
> It should also remind us of the person who missed
> George W. Bush most: Osama bin Laden.
>
> http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jason-sattler/why-pr
> esident-obama-deser_b_3896183.html
Attachments:
Re: Why President Obama Deserves the Nobel Prize
Posted by:
liberal logic 27
()
Date: September 13, 2013 03:50PM
Ralph Pootawn Wrote:
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That's stupid.
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That's stupid.
Re: Why President Obama Deserves the Nobel Prize
Posted by:
Lib's mantra
()
Date: September 13, 2013 04:26PM
Good job blaming Bush! I count Bush's name being mentioned 12 times. Obama could never stand on his own, so blame Bush every chance you get.
Re: Why President Obama Deserves the Nobel Prize
Posted by:
Liberal Logic 28
()
Date: September 13, 2013 05:02PM
Lib's mantra Wrote:
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> Good job blaming Bush! I count Bush's name being
> mentioned 12 times. Obama could never stand on
> his own, so blame Bush every chance you get.
Its really just sad when youre still blaming the guy before you in your second term. Then again its always just been taking credit for everything good and passing the blame off on anything bad. Thats the legacy thats being left.
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> Good job blaming Bush! I count Bush's name being
> mentioned 12 times. Obama could never stand on
> his own, so blame Bush every chance you get.
Its really just sad when youre still blaming the guy before you in your second term. Then again its always just been taking credit for everything good and passing the blame off on anything bad. Thats the legacy thats being left.
Re: Why President Obama Deserves the Nobel Prize
Posted by:
Real Barry
()
Date: September 13, 2013 08:53PM
Imagine if you hired an accountant to set your books straight and after five years his only accomplishment was blaming the guy before him.
Re: Why President Obama Deserves the Nobel Prize
Posted by:
Vexxxed
()
Date: September 14, 2013 05:40AM
Real Barry Wrote:
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> Imagine if you hired an accountant to set your
> books straight and after five years his only
> accomplishment was blaming the guy before him.
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> Imagine if you hired an accountant to set your
> books straight and after five years his only
> accomplishment was blaming the guy before him.
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Re: Why President Obama Deserves the Nobel Prize
Posted by:
Fruppie
()
Date: September 14, 2013 05:51AM
liberal logic 27 Wrote:
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> Ralph Pootawn Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> *pic*
>
> That's stupid.
That's stupid.
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> Ralph Pootawn Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> *pic*
>
> That's stupid.
That's stupid.
Re: Why President Obama Deserves the Nobel Prize
Posted by:
yWLPd
()
Date: September 14, 2013 10:06AM
> Good job blaming Bush! I count Bush's name being
> mentioned 12 times. Obama could never stand on
> his own, so blame Bush every chance you get.
counting is the first step toward thinking. stop that!
> mentioned 12 times. Obama could never stand on
> his own, so blame Bush every chance you get.
counting is the first step toward thinking. stop that!
Re: Why President Obama Deserves the Nobel Prize
Posted by:
Oscar4
()
Date: September 14, 2013 05:33PM
His genius; and the masterful bit of "cat and mouse"with syria; that for all intents and purposes has put an end to any questions his opponents might have had as to his ability to handle the tough decisions; will cinch his nomination. A lot of Republicans are backpeddling now and eating crow.
Re: Why President Obama Deserves the Nobel Prize
Posted by:
Liberal Logic 28
()
Date: September 14, 2013 06:21PM
Oscar4 Wrote:
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> His genius; and the masterful bit of "cat and
> mouse"with syria; that for all intents and
> purposes has put an end to any questions his
> opponents might have had as to his ability to
> handle the tough decisions; will cinch his
> nomination. A lot of Republicans are backpeddling
> now and eating crow.
I know its a weekend and all but isnt 5:30 a little early to be hammered?
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> His genius; and the masterful bit of "cat and
> mouse"with syria; that for all intents and
> purposes has put an end to any questions his
> opponents might have had as to his ability to
> handle the tough decisions; will cinch his
> nomination. A lot of Republicans are backpeddling
> now and eating crow.
I know its a weekend and all but isnt 5:30 a little early to be hammered?
Re: Why President Obama Deserves the Nobel Prize
Posted by:
liberal logic 27
()
Date: September 14, 2013 06:44PM
Liberal Logic 28 Wrote:
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> I know its a weekend and all but isnt 5:30 a
> little early to be hammered?
You're drunk on Conservaturd Kool Aid all day, every day.
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> I know its a weekend and all but isnt 5:30 a
> little early to be hammered?
You're drunk on Conservaturd Kool Aid all day, every day.
Re: Why President Obama Deserves the Nobel Prize
Posted by:
We disagree
()
Date: September 14, 2013 06:51PM
The sense of betrayal among nominally pro-Western factions in the opposition has grown intensely in recent days.
In the northern Syrian province of Idlib, a rebel stronghold, one commander said that the agreement on Saturday proved that the United States no longer cared about helping Syrians and was leaving them at the mercy of a government backed by powerful allies in Russia and Iran.
Maysara, a commander of a battalion in Saraqeb, said in an interview that he had paid little attention to the diplomacy on Saturday.
“I don’t care about deals anymore,” he said in an interview. “The Americans found a way out of the strike.”
He added: “The Russians did what they want. The Americans lied, and the lie was believed — the U.S. doesn’t want democracy in Syria. Now I have doubts about the U.S. capacities, their military and intelligence capacities. The Iranian capacity is much stronger, I guess.”
In the northern Syrian province of Idlib, a rebel stronghold, one commander said that the agreement on Saturday proved that the United States no longer cared about helping Syrians and was leaving them at the mercy of a government backed by powerful allies in Russia and Iran.
Maysara, a commander of a battalion in Saraqeb, said in an interview that he had paid little attention to the diplomacy on Saturday.
“I don’t care about deals anymore,” he said in an interview. “The Americans found a way out of the strike.”
He added: “The Russians did what they want. The Americans lied, and the lie was believed — the U.S. doesn’t want democracy in Syria. Now I have doubts about the U.S. capacities, their military and intelligence capacities. The Iranian capacity is much stronger, I guess.”
Re: Why President Obama Deserves the Nobel Prize
Posted by:
IdrinkCoffeeOnYourDime
()
Date: September 14, 2013 09:29PM
Oh, this is rich! So the latest conservative line is that Obama's diplomacy is tantamount to betrayal of the Syrian rebels. But only yesterday, as I was driving home from my taxpayer paid job at the Socialist Workers Institute for Liberal Economics (i.e., the federal government), I turned on Sean Hannity -- better than any of the comedy channels on Sirius XM -- and he was ranting about how all the rebels were al-Qaeda!!
Not that I really care what a demographically irrelevant party's positions are on anything, but I would suggest you start handing out programs that list which one of you is spouting what nonsensical tripe today. Or did the fax machine at Fox break, and the daily talking points stop coming in?
We disagree Wrote:
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> The sense of betrayal among nominally pro-Western
> factions in the opposition has grown intensely in
> recent days.
>
> In the northern Syrian province of Idlib, a rebel
> stronghold, one commander said that the agreement
> on Saturday proved that the United States no
> longer cared about helping Syrians and was leaving
> them at the mercy of a government backed by
> powerful allies in Russia and Iran.
>
> Maysara, a commander of a battalion in Saraqeb,
> said in an interview that he had paid little
> attention to the diplomacy on Saturday.
>
> “I don’t care about deals anymore,” he said
> in an interview. “The Americans found a way out
> of the strike.”
>
> He added: “The Russians did what they want. The
> Americans lied, and the lie was believed — the
> U.S. doesn’t want democracy in Syria. Now I have
> doubts about the U.S. capacities, their military
> and intelligence capacities. The Iranian capacity
> is much stronger, I guess.”
Not that I really care what a demographically irrelevant party's positions are on anything, but I would suggest you start handing out programs that list which one of you is spouting what nonsensical tripe today. Or did the fax machine at Fox break, and the daily talking points stop coming in?
We disagree Wrote:
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> The sense of betrayal among nominally pro-Western
> factions in the opposition has grown intensely in
> recent days.
>
> In the northern Syrian province of Idlib, a rebel
> stronghold, one commander said that the agreement
> on Saturday proved that the United States no
> longer cared about helping Syrians and was leaving
> them at the mercy of a government backed by
> powerful allies in Russia and Iran.
>
> Maysara, a commander of a battalion in Saraqeb,
> said in an interview that he had paid little
> attention to the diplomacy on Saturday.
>
> “I don’t care about deals anymore,” he said
> in an interview. “The Americans found a way out
> of the strike.”
>
> He added: “The Russians did what they want. The
> Americans lied, and the lie was believed — the
> U.S. doesn’t want democracy in Syria. Now I have
> doubts about the U.S. capacities, their military
> and intelligence capacities. The Iranian capacity
> is much stronger, I guess.”
Re: Why President Obama Deserves the Nobel Prize
Posted by:
Liberal Logic 28
()
Date: September 14, 2013 09:41PM
IdrinkCoffeeOnYourDime Wrote:
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> Oh, this is rich! So the latest conservative line
> is that Obama's diplomacy is tantamount to
> betrayal of the Syrian rebels. But only
> yesterday, as I was driving home from my taxpayer
> paid job at the Socialist Workers Institute for
> Liberal Economics (i.e., the federal government),
> I turned on Sean Hannity -- better than any of the
> comedy channels on Sirius XM -- and he was ranting
> about how all the rebels were al-Qaeda!!
>
> Not that I really care what a demographically
> irrelevant party's positions are on anything, but
> I would suggest you start handing out programs
> that list which one of you is spouting what
> nonsensical tripe today. Or did the fax machine
> at Fox break, and the daily talking points stop
> coming in?
Being a liberal I know its hard for you to understand that not everyone operates in the same manner. Only liberals mindless repeat the same garbage over and over which is literally just a reciting of talking points.
As far as Syria, the rebels are being helped by Al-Qaeda now. Thats one of the reasons why no one really wants to go in anymore. Let the extremists fight amongst themselves and thin the heard.
Ill let you get back to your circle jerk mental midgitry with your fellow liberals where you can all act like youre the smartest person in the room eventhough youre saying the most brain dead stuff. LOL/Gerry/LL27 will be along to join in soon even though theyre likely the same person.
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> Oh, this is rich! So the latest conservative line
> is that Obama's diplomacy is tantamount to
> betrayal of the Syrian rebels. But only
> yesterday, as I was driving home from my taxpayer
> paid job at the Socialist Workers Institute for
> Liberal Economics (i.e., the federal government),
> I turned on Sean Hannity -- better than any of the
> comedy channels on Sirius XM -- and he was ranting
> about how all the rebels were al-Qaeda!!
>
> Not that I really care what a demographically
> irrelevant party's positions are on anything, but
> I would suggest you start handing out programs
> that list which one of you is spouting what
> nonsensical tripe today. Or did the fax machine
> at Fox break, and the daily talking points stop
> coming in?
Being a liberal I know its hard for you to understand that not everyone operates in the same manner. Only liberals mindless repeat the same garbage over and over which is literally just a reciting of talking points.
As far as Syria, the rebels are being helped by Al-Qaeda now. Thats one of the reasons why no one really wants to go in anymore. Let the extremists fight amongst themselves and thin the heard.
Ill let you get back to your circle jerk mental midgitry with your fellow liberals where you can all act like youre the smartest person in the room eventhough youre saying the most brain dead stuff. LOL/Gerry/LL27 will be along to join in soon even though theyre likely the same person.
Re: Why President Obama Deserves the Nobel Prize
Posted by:
Oh snap
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Date: September 14, 2013 10:15PM
IdrinkCoffeeOnYourDime Wrote:
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> Oh, this is rich! So the latest conservative line
> is that Obama's diplomacy is tantamount to
> betrayal of the Syrian rebels. But only
> yesterday, as I was driving home from my taxpayer
> paid job at the Socialist Workers Institute for
> Liberal Economics (i.e., the federal government),
> I turned on Sean Hannity -- better than any of the
> comedy channels on Sirius XM -- and he was ranting
> about how all the rebels were al-Qaeda!!
>
> Not that I really care what a demographically
> irrelevant party's positions are on anything, but
> I would suggest you start handing out programs
> that list which one of you is spouting what
> nonsensical tripe today. Or did the fax machine
> at Fox break, and the daily talking points stop
> coming in?
>
It's the rebels themselves speaking and from a NYT article.
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/09/15/world/middleeast/syria-talks.html?pagewanted=all
doh
Lots more of the same if you want to look. They're not real happy with Obama for bailing on them.
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> Oh, this is rich! So the latest conservative line
> is that Obama's diplomacy is tantamount to
> betrayal of the Syrian rebels. But only
> yesterday, as I was driving home from my taxpayer
> paid job at the Socialist Workers Institute for
> Liberal Economics (i.e., the federal government),
> I turned on Sean Hannity -- better than any of the
> comedy channels on Sirius XM -- and he was ranting
> about how all the rebels were al-Qaeda!!
>
> Not that I really care what a demographically
> irrelevant party's positions are on anything, but
> I would suggest you start handing out programs
> that list which one of you is spouting what
> nonsensical tripe today. Or did the fax machine
> at Fox break, and the daily talking points stop
> coming in?
>
It's the rebels themselves speaking and from a NYT article.
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/09/15/world/middleeast/syria-talks.html?pagewanted=all
doh
Lots more of the same if you want to look. They're not real happy with Obama for bailing on them.
Re: Why President Obama Deserves the Nobel Prize
Posted by:
right winger
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Date: September 14, 2013 10:42PM
Obama successfully manipulated Putin into intervening. Of course he deserves another Nobel prize.
Re: Why President Obama Deserves the Nobel Prize
Posted by:
Gerrymanderer2
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Date: September 14, 2013 10:44PM
Well done Obama, Bravo, disarmed the brute of his chemical WMD's without losing a single soldiers life or spending an extra dollar.
Re: Why President Obama Deserves the Nobel Prize
Posted by:
Hello? Anybody there? Hello?
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Date: September 14, 2013 10:59PM
Gerrymanderer2 Wrote:
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> Well done Obama, Bravo, disarmed the brute of his
> chemical WMD's without losing a single soldiers
> life or spending an extra dollar.
Syria’s opposition rejects deal by US and Russia to use diplomacy with Assad regime
14/09 17:49 CET
Syria’s opposition has been giving its response to the Russian and US deal to get rid of chemical weapons in the country.
The head of the Free Syrian Army, Salam Idris, said using diplomacy rather than military force was a blow to their efforts to overthrow President Assad’s regime.
“We don’t recognize the Russian initiative and we think the Russians and the Syrian regime are playing games to waste time and to win time for the criminal regime in Damascus. We will faciliate the mission of the investigators in the country but very clearly and frankly there will be no ceasefire with the regime,” Idris said.
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> Well done Obama, Bravo, disarmed the brute of his
> chemical WMD's without losing a single soldiers
> life or spending an extra dollar.
Syria’s opposition rejects deal by US and Russia to use diplomacy with Assad regime
14/09 17:49 CET
Syria’s opposition has been giving its response to the Russian and US deal to get rid of chemical weapons in the country.
The head of the Free Syrian Army, Salam Idris, said using diplomacy rather than military force was a blow to their efforts to overthrow President Assad’s regime.
“We don’t recognize the Russian initiative and we think the Russians and the Syrian regime are playing games to waste time and to win time for the criminal regime in Damascus. We will faciliate the mission of the investigators in the country but very clearly and frankly there will be no ceasefire with the regime,” Idris said.
Re: Why President Obama Deserves the Nobel Prize
Posted by:
High Fives
()
Date: September 14, 2013 11:19PM
FSA chief says U.S.-Russia deal is a blow to Syrian uprising
Saturday, 14 September 2013
Al Arabiya
The head of the opposition Free Syrian Army on Saturday rejected an agreement between the United States and Russia to eliminate Syria’s chemical weapons stock by mid-2014.
“We cannot accept any part of this initiative,” General Selim Idriss told reporters in Istanbul, saying it is a blow to the two-and-a-half year uprising aiming to topple Syrian President Bashar al-Assad.
“We in the Free Syrian Army are unconcerned by the implementation of any part of the initiative... I and my brothers in arms will continue to fight until the regime falls,” he said in a statement carried by Agence-France-Presse.
Idriss said the deal would allow Assad to avoid being held accountable for killing hundreds of civilians in a poison gas attack on Damascus on Aug. 21. Assad has denied responsibility for the purported attack.
The United States’ strike plans were put off after Russia proposed that Damascus put its chemical arms under international supervision, Assad agreed to the proposal.
Idriss spoke shortly after U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry and Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov announced the agreed time frame, after three days of talks in Geneva.
“Are we Syrians supposed to wait until mid-2014, to continue being killed every day and to accept [the deal] just because the chemical arms will be destroyed in 2014,” asked Idriss.
“We respect our friends [in the international community], and we hope our friends understand our position... We cannot accept this initiative because it ignores... the massacre of our people.”
Saturday, 14 September 2013
Al Arabiya
The head of the opposition Free Syrian Army on Saturday rejected an agreement between the United States and Russia to eliminate Syria’s chemical weapons stock by mid-2014.
“We cannot accept any part of this initiative,” General Selim Idriss told reporters in Istanbul, saying it is a blow to the two-and-a-half year uprising aiming to topple Syrian President Bashar al-Assad.
“We in the Free Syrian Army are unconcerned by the implementation of any part of the initiative... I and my brothers in arms will continue to fight until the regime falls,” he said in a statement carried by Agence-France-Presse.
Idriss said the deal would allow Assad to avoid being held accountable for killing hundreds of civilians in a poison gas attack on Damascus on Aug. 21. Assad has denied responsibility for the purported attack.
The United States’ strike plans were put off after Russia proposed that Damascus put its chemical arms under international supervision, Assad agreed to the proposal.
Idriss spoke shortly after U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry and Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov announced the agreed time frame, after three days of talks in Geneva.
“Are we Syrians supposed to wait until mid-2014, to continue being killed every day and to accept [the deal] just because the chemical arms will be destroyed in 2014,” asked Idriss.
“We respect our friends [in the international community], and we hope our friends understand our position... We cannot accept this initiative because it ignores... the massacre of our people.”