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Putin trumps Obama again with Op-Ed
Posted by:
Vlad
()
Date: September 12, 2013 01:09AM
A Plea for Caution From Russia
What Putin Has to Say to Americans About Syria
By VLADIMIR V. PUTIN
Published: September 11, 2013 473 Comments
MOSCOW — RECENT events surrounding Syria have prompted me to speak directly to the American people and their political leaders. It is important to do so at a time of insufficient communication between our societies.
Relations between us have passed through different stages. We stood against each other during the cold war. But we were also allies once, and defeated the Nazis together. The universal international organization — the United Nations — was then established to prevent such devastation from ever happening again.
The United Nations’ founders understood that decisions affecting war and peace should happen only by consensus, and with America’s consent the veto by Security Council permanent members was enshrined in the United Nations Charter. The profound wisdom of this has underpinned the stability of international relations for decades.
No one wants the United Nations to suffer the fate of the League of Nations, which collapsed because it lacked real leverage. This is possible if influential countries bypass the United Nations and take military action without Security Council authorization.
The potential strike by the United States against Syria, despite strong opposition from many countries and major political and religious leaders, including the pope, will result in more innocent victims and escalation, potentially spreading the conflict far beyond Syria’s borders. A strike would increase violence and unleash a new wave of terrorism. It could undermine multilateral efforts to resolve the Iranian nuclear problem and the Israeli-Palestinian conflict and further destabilize the Middle East and North Africa. It could throw the entire system of international law and order out of balance.
Syria is not witnessing a battle for democracy, but an armed conflict between government and opposition in a multireligious country. There are few champions of democracy in Syria. But there are more than enough Qaeda fighters and extremists of all stripes battling the government. The United States State Department has designated Al Nusra Front and the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant, fighting with the opposition, as terrorist organizations. This internal conflict, fueled by foreign weapons supplied to the opposition, is one of the bloodiest in the world.
Mercenaries from Arab countries fighting there, and hundreds of militants from Western countries and even Russia, are an issue of our deep concern. Might they not return to our countries with experience acquired in Syria? After all, after fighting in Libya, extremists moved on to Mali. This threatens us all.
From the outset, Russia has advocated peaceful dialogue enabling Syrians to develop a compromise plan for their own future. We are not protecting the Syrian government, but international law. We need to use the United Nations Security Council and believe that preserving law and order in today’s complex and turbulent world is one of the few ways to keep international relations from sliding into chaos. The law is still the law, and we must follow it whether we like it or not. Under current international law, force is permitted only in self-defense or by the decision of the Security Council. Anything else is unacceptable under the United Nations Charter and would constitute an act of aggression.
No one doubts that poison gas was used in Syria. But there is every reason to believe it was used not by the Syrian Army, but by opposition forces, to provoke intervention by their powerful foreign patrons, who would be siding with the fundamentalists. Reports that militants are preparing another attack — this time against Israel — cannot be ignored.
It is alarming that military intervention in internal conflicts in foreign countries has become commonplace for the United States. Is it in America’s long-term interest? I doubt it. Millions around the world increasingly see America not as a model of democracy but as relying solely on brute force, cobbling coalitions together under the slogan “you’re either with us or against us.”
But force has proved ineffective and pointless. Afghanistan is reeling, and no one can say what will happen after international forces withdraw. Libya is divided into tribes and clans. In Iraq the civil war continues, with dozens killed each day. In the United States, many draw an analogy between Iraq and Syria, and ask why their government would want to repeat recent mistakes.
No matter how targeted the strikes or how sophisticated the weapons, civilian casualties are inevitable, including the elderly and children, whom the strikes are meant to protect.
The world reacts by asking: if you cannot count on international law, then you must find other ways to ensure your security. Thus a growing number of countries seek to acquire weapons of mass destruction. This is logical: if you have the bomb, no one will touch you. We are left with talk of the need to strengthen nonproliferation, when in reality this is being eroded.
We must stop using the language of force and return to the path of civilized diplomatic and political settlement.
A new opportunity to avoid military action has emerged in the past few days. The United States, Russia and all members of the international community must take advantage of the Syrian government’s willingness to place its chemical arsenal under international control for subsequent destruction. Judging by the statements of President Obama, the United States sees this as an alternative to military action.
I welcome the president’s interest in continuing the dialogue with Russia on Syria. We must work together to keep this hope alive, as we agreed to at the Group of 8 meeting in Lough Erne in Northern Ireland in June, and steer the discussion back toward negotiations.
If we can avoid force against Syria, this will improve the atmosphere in international affairs and strengthen mutual trust. It will be our shared success and open the door to cooperation on other critical issues.
My working and personal relationship with President Obama is marked by growing trust. I appreciate this. I carefully studied his address to the nation on Tuesday. And I would rather disagree with a case he made on American exceptionalism, stating that the United States’ policy is “what makes America different. It’s what makes us exceptional.” It is extremely dangerous to encourage people to see themselves as exceptional, whatever the motivation. There are big countries and small countries, rich and poor, those with long democratic traditions and those still finding their way to democracy. Their policies differ, too. We are all different, but when we ask for the Lord’s blessings, we must not forget that God created us equal.
Vladimir V. Putin is the president of Russia.
What Putin Has to Say to Americans About Syria
By VLADIMIR V. PUTIN
Published: September 11, 2013 473 Comments
MOSCOW — RECENT events surrounding Syria have prompted me to speak directly to the American people and their political leaders. It is important to do so at a time of insufficient communication between our societies.
Relations between us have passed through different stages. We stood against each other during the cold war. But we were also allies once, and defeated the Nazis together. The universal international organization — the United Nations — was then established to prevent such devastation from ever happening again.
The United Nations’ founders understood that decisions affecting war and peace should happen only by consensus, and with America’s consent the veto by Security Council permanent members was enshrined in the United Nations Charter. The profound wisdom of this has underpinned the stability of international relations for decades.
No one wants the United Nations to suffer the fate of the League of Nations, which collapsed because it lacked real leverage. This is possible if influential countries bypass the United Nations and take military action without Security Council authorization.
The potential strike by the United States against Syria, despite strong opposition from many countries and major political and religious leaders, including the pope, will result in more innocent victims and escalation, potentially spreading the conflict far beyond Syria’s borders. A strike would increase violence and unleash a new wave of terrorism. It could undermine multilateral efforts to resolve the Iranian nuclear problem and the Israeli-Palestinian conflict and further destabilize the Middle East and North Africa. It could throw the entire system of international law and order out of balance.
Syria is not witnessing a battle for democracy, but an armed conflict between government and opposition in a multireligious country. There are few champions of democracy in Syria. But there are more than enough Qaeda fighters and extremists of all stripes battling the government. The United States State Department has designated Al Nusra Front and the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant, fighting with the opposition, as terrorist organizations. This internal conflict, fueled by foreign weapons supplied to the opposition, is one of the bloodiest in the world.
Mercenaries from Arab countries fighting there, and hundreds of militants from Western countries and even Russia, are an issue of our deep concern. Might they not return to our countries with experience acquired in Syria? After all, after fighting in Libya, extremists moved on to Mali. This threatens us all.
From the outset, Russia has advocated peaceful dialogue enabling Syrians to develop a compromise plan for their own future. We are not protecting the Syrian government, but international law. We need to use the United Nations Security Council and believe that preserving law and order in today’s complex and turbulent world is one of the few ways to keep international relations from sliding into chaos. The law is still the law, and we must follow it whether we like it or not. Under current international law, force is permitted only in self-defense or by the decision of the Security Council. Anything else is unacceptable under the United Nations Charter and would constitute an act of aggression.
No one doubts that poison gas was used in Syria. But there is every reason to believe it was used not by the Syrian Army, but by opposition forces, to provoke intervention by their powerful foreign patrons, who would be siding with the fundamentalists. Reports that militants are preparing another attack — this time against Israel — cannot be ignored.
It is alarming that military intervention in internal conflicts in foreign countries has become commonplace for the United States. Is it in America’s long-term interest? I doubt it. Millions around the world increasingly see America not as a model of democracy but as relying solely on brute force, cobbling coalitions together under the slogan “you’re either with us or against us.”
But force has proved ineffective and pointless. Afghanistan is reeling, and no one can say what will happen after international forces withdraw. Libya is divided into tribes and clans. In Iraq the civil war continues, with dozens killed each day. In the United States, many draw an analogy between Iraq and Syria, and ask why their government would want to repeat recent mistakes.
No matter how targeted the strikes or how sophisticated the weapons, civilian casualties are inevitable, including the elderly and children, whom the strikes are meant to protect.
The world reacts by asking: if you cannot count on international law, then you must find other ways to ensure your security. Thus a growing number of countries seek to acquire weapons of mass destruction. This is logical: if you have the bomb, no one will touch you. We are left with talk of the need to strengthen nonproliferation, when in reality this is being eroded.
We must stop using the language of force and return to the path of civilized diplomatic and political settlement.
A new opportunity to avoid military action has emerged in the past few days. The United States, Russia and all members of the international community must take advantage of the Syrian government’s willingness to place its chemical arsenal under international control for subsequent destruction. Judging by the statements of President Obama, the United States sees this as an alternative to military action.
I welcome the president’s interest in continuing the dialogue with Russia on Syria. We must work together to keep this hope alive, as we agreed to at the Group of 8 meeting in Lough Erne in Northern Ireland in June, and steer the discussion back toward negotiations.
If we can avoid force against Syria, this will improve the atmosphere in international affairs and strengthen mutual trust. It will be our shared success and open the door to cooperation on other critical issues.
My working and personal relationship with President Obama is marked by growing trust. I appreciate this. I carefully studied his address to the nation on Tuesday. And I would rather disagree with a case he made on American exceptionalism, stating that the United States’ policy is “what makes America different. It’s what makes us exceptional.” It is extremely dangerous to encourage people to see themselves as exceptional, whatever the motivation. There are big countries and small countries, rich and poor, those with long democratic traditions and those still finding their way to democracy. Their policies differ, too. We are all different, but when we ask for the Lord’s blessings, we must not forget that God created us equal.
Vladimir V. Putin is the president of Russia.
Re: Putin trumps Obama again with Op-Ed
Posted by:
This is becoming embarrassing
()
Date: September 12, 2013 01:16AM
Dance little brown man, dance...
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Re: Putin trumps Obama again with Op-Ed
Posted by:
Weak Link
()
Date: September 12, 2013 01:36AM
Again shows how weak of a leader Obama is. Never thought I would say this but props to Putin for doing the right thing.
Re: Putin trumps Obama again with Op-Ed
Posted by:
Tough One
()
Date: September 12, 2013 04:44AM
Is Putin now going to get a Nobel Peace Prize?
Re: Putin trumps Obama again with Op-Ed
Posted by:
Nobel Society
()
Date: September 12, 2013 05:17AM
Tough One Wrote:
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> Is Putin now going to get a Nobel Peace Prize?
No. But Barry should hand his over to Putin. Putin owns him.
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> Is Putin now going to get a Nobel Peace Prize?
No. But Barry should hand his over to Putin. Putin owns him.
Re: Putin trumps Obama again with Op-Ed
Posted by:
Hughhgh
()
Date: September 12, 2013 06:19AM
Our prez is a big political correctness, affirmative action joke. Barack is Oprah without the talent for bullshitting.
Re: Putin trumps Obama again with Op-Ed
Posted by:
Clog
()
Date: September 12, 2013 06:57AM
Listen fellas...the was a time when people believed Communist leaders over our President they were called traitors. Now they are called Republicans. Just go on and tell Jane Fonda to move on over and make room for of you.
Re: Putin trumps Obama again with Op-Ed
Posted by:
WingNut
()
Date: September 12, 2013 07:38AM
Clog Wrote:
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> Listen fellas...the was a time when people
> believed Communist leaders over our President they
> were called traitors. Now they are called
> Republicans. Just go on and tell Jane Fonda to
> move on over and make room for of you.
Putin is not a communist, he is a nationalist and an authoritarian. He is an enemy of the U.S. 90% of the time, he proved that with Snowden.
As much as it pains me to admit though, Putin is a competent adult. Obozo is not. Obozo is being guided by a cabal of leftist academic twats- Susan Rice, Valerie Jarrett Samantha Powers.
I am fine with Obozo making himself look bad, but he degrades the whole nation when he gives a creep like Putin the wiggle room to pull a public relations stunt like this.
Don't you realize how fucking retarded this makes American voters look?
-------------------------------------------------------
> Listen fellas...the was a time when people
> believed Communist leaders over our President they
> were called traitors. Now they are called
> Republicans. Just go on and tell Jane Fonda to
> move on over and make room for of you.
Putin is not a communist, he is a nationalist and an authoritarian. He is an enemy of the U.S. 90% of the time, he proved that with Snowden.
As much as it pains me to admit though, Putin is a competent adult. Obozo is not. Obozo is being guided by a cabal of leftist academic twats- Susan Rice, Valerie Jarrett Samantha Powers.
I am fine with Obozo making himself look bad, but he degrades the whole nation when he gives a creep like Putin the wiggle room to pull a public relations stunt like this.
Don't you realize how fucking retarded this makes American voters look?
idontlikebeingrightaboutshitlikethisbutiam
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Re: Putin trumps Obama again with Op-Ed
Posted by:
WingNut
()
Date: September 12, 2013 07:46AM
Gotta add this.
Back in the Presidential debates, Old Dingle Barry got pretty smug with Mitt Romney when Rom suggested that Putin was our enemy.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QS2a44F5TgM&feature=player_embedded
Obama is truly a sack of NOTHING.
Back in the Presidential debates, Old Dingle Barry got pretty smug with Mitt Romney when Rom suggested that Putin was our enemy.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QS2a44F5TgM&feature=player_embedded
Obama is truly a sack of NOTHING.
idontlikebeingrightaboutshitlikethisbutiam
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Re: Putin trumps Obama again with Op-Ed
Posted by:
liberal logic 27
()
Date: September 12, 2013 08:16AM
WingNut Wrote:
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> Putin is not a communist, he is a nationalist and
> an authoritarian. He is an enemy of the U.S. 90%
> of the time, he proved that with Snowden.
Sounds like Putin would feel right at home in the US 'conservative movement'.
> I am fine with Obozo making himself look bad, but
> he degrades the whole nation when he gives a creep
> like Putin the wiggle room to pull a public
> relations stunt like this.
That is the crux here: Cheap public relations stunt from Putin. It is meaningless.
> Don't you realize how fucking retarded this makes
> American voters look?
Not nearly so retarded as you right-wing nutjobs.
-------------------------------------------------------
> Putin is not a communist, he is a nationalist and
> an authoritarian. He is an enemy of the U.S. 90%
> of the time, he proved that with Snowden.
Sounds like Putin would feel right at home in the US 'conservative movement'.
> I am fine with Obozo making himself look bad, but
> he degrades the whole nation when he gives a creep
> like Putin the wiggle room to pull a public
> relations stunt like this.
That is the crux here: Cheap public relations stunt from Putin. It is meaningless.
> Don't you realize how fucking retarded this makes
> American voters look?
Not nearly so retarded as you right-wing nutjobs.
Re: Putin trumps Obama again with Op-Ed
Posted by:
Terry G
()
Date: September 12, 2013 08:21AM
Now Obama is saying if things turn to crap in Syria its Putins fault. Once again Obama puts the blame on others. This guy will never man up to anything.
Re: Putin trumps Obama again with Op-Ed
Posted by:
WingNut
()
Date: September 12, 2013 08:28AM
Coming soon, Russia will likely wield far more power on the world stage.
Look for a Russian trade presence in Egypt, who is newly hostile to America, (even though the Media told Obama his Cairo speech in '09 was so epic)
Look for more Russian influence in Libya. And watch as Putin plays dirty and meddles with some of the breakaways and former Soviet republics. (hint: SELL Georgia and Ukraine, BUY Belarus)
Just watch it unfold Ferfagz, you silly little fella.
Obama is seen as a fool worldwide. In Europe, Asia, the Middle East. Everywhere. It goes only to reason that only fools would elect such a fool. We have become a culturally mindless and unthinking nation.
Congratulations!
Look for a Russian trade presence in Egypt, who is newly hostile to America, (even though the Media told Obama his Cairo speech in '09 was so epic)
Look for more Russian influence in Libya. And watch as Putin plays dirty and meddles with some of the breakaways and former Soviet republics. (hint: SELL Georgia and Ukraine, BUY Belarus)
Just watch it unfold Ferfagz, you silly little fella.
Obama is seen as a fool worldwide. In Europe, Asia, the Middle East. Everywhere. It goes only to reason that only fools would elect such a fool. We have become a culturally mindless and unthinking nation.
Congratulations!
idontlikebeingrightaboutshitlikethisbutiam
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Re: Putin trumps Obama again with Op-Ed
Posted by:
liberal logic 27
()
Date: September 12, 2013 08:41AM
WingNut Wrote:
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> Egypt, who is newly hostile to America, (even
> though the Media told Obama his Cairo speech
> in '09 was so epic)
Thanks, US conservaturds!
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/2013/07/the_weirdest_story_in_the_history_of_the_world.php?ref=fpblg
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> Egypt, who is newly hostile to America, (even
> though the Media told Obama his Cairo speech
> in '09 was so epic)
Thanks, US conservaturds!
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/2013/07/the_weirdest_story_in_the_history_of_the_world.php?ref=fpblg
Re: Putin trumps Obama again with Op-Ed
Posted by:
WingNut
()
Date: September 12, 2013 08:46AM
liberal logic 27 Wrote:
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> WingNut Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Egypt, who is newly hostile to America, (even
> > though the Media told Obama his Cairo speech
> > in '09 was so epic)
>
> Thanks, US conservaturds!
>
> http://talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/2013/07/the_
> weirdest_story_in_the_history_of_the_world.php?ref
> =fpblg
None of us are going to click on your link.
Frefux why don't you read the article yourself and summarize the meaning for us?
Are you capable?
Or do you just hope that you'll pick the right cuts-n-pastes and somehow look like you know something?
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> WingNut Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Egypt, who is newly hostile to America, (even
> > though the Media told Obama his Cairo speech
> > in '09 was so epic)
>
> Thanks, US conservaturds!
>
> http://talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/2013/07/the_
> weirdest_story_in_the_history_of_the_world.php?ref
> =fpblg
None of us are going to click on your link.
Frefux why don't you read the article yourself and summarize the meaning for us?
Are you capable?
Or do you just hope that you'll pick the right cuts-n-pastes and somehow look like you know something?
idontlikebeingrightaboutshitlikethisbutiam
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Re: Putin trumps Obama again with Op-Ed
Posted by:
liberal logic 27
()
Date: September 12, 2013 08:55AM
WingNut Wrote:
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> None of us are going to click on your link.
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> None of us are going to click on your link.
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Re: Putin trumps Obama again with Op-Ed
Posted by:
Smack Down
()
Date: September 12, 2013 08:56AM
Clog Wrote:
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> Listen fellas...the was a time when people
> believed Communist leaders over our President they
> were called traitors. Now they are called
> Republicans. Just go on and tell Jane Fonda to
> move on over and make room for of you.
No, both Putin and Obama are socialists. Obama felt he could do socialism better, for example Obamacare. It is falling apart just like Obama's Syria "plan." Putin had to smack him down because Obama was giving socialism a bad name.
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> Listen fellas...the was a time when people
> believed Communist leaders over our President they
> were called traitors. Now they are called
> Republicans. Just go on and tell Jane Fonda to
> move on over and make room for of you.
No, both Putin and Obama are socialists. Obama felt he could do socialism better, for example Obamacare. It is falling apart just like Obama's Syria "plan." Putin had to smack him down because Obama was giving socialism a bad name.
Re: Putin trumps Obama again with Op-Ed
Posted by:
WingNut
()
Date: September 12, 2013 08:57AM
@ ferfux
Bitch, quit frontin'. You aren't fooling anyone. You really have zero idea what you post, you are just a repeater of the thoughts of others.
LOL
Bitch, quit frontin'. You aren't fooling anyone. You really have zero idea what you post, you are just a repeater of the thoughts of others.
LOL
Re: Putin trumps Obama again with Op-Ed
Posted by:
liberal logic 27
()
Date: September 12, 2013 08:57AM
Smack Down Wrote:
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> Clog Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Listen fellas...the was a time when people
> > believed Communist leaders over our President
> they
> > were called traitors. Now they are called
> > Republicans. Just go on and tell Jane Fonda to
> > move on over and make room for of you.
>
>
> No, both Putin and Obama are socialists. Obama
> felt he could do socialism better, for example
> Obamacare. It is falling apart just like Obama's
> Syria "plan." Putin had to smack him down because
> Obama was giving socialism a bad name.
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> Clog Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Listen fellas...the was a time when people
> > believed Communist leaders over our President
> they
> > were called traitors. Now they are called
> > Republicans. Just go on and tell Jane Fonda to
> > move on over and make room for of you.
>
>
> No, both Putin and Obama are socialists. Obama
> felt he could do socialism better, for example
> Obamacare. It is falling apart just like Obama's
> Syria "plan." Putin had to smack him down because
> Obama was giving socialism a bad name.
Attachments:
Re: Putin trumps Obama again with Op-Ed
Posted by:
Clog
()
Date: September 12, 2013 09:01AM
WingNut Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Clog Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Listen fellas...the was a time when people
> > believed Communist leaders over our President
> they
> > were called traitors. Now they are called
> > Republicans. Just go on and tell Jane Fonda to
> > move on over and make room for of you.
>
>
> Putin is not a communist, he is a nationalist and
> an authoritarian. He is an enemy of the U.S. 90%
> of the time, he proved that with Snowden.
>
> As much as it pains me to admit though, Putin is a
> competent adult. Obozo is not. Obozo is being
> guided by a cabal of leftist academic twats- Susan
> Rice, Valerie Jarrett Samantha Powers.
>
> I am fine with Obozo making himself look bad, but
> he degrades the whole nation when he gives a creep
> like Putin the wiggle room to pull a public
> relations stunt like this.
>
> Don't you realize how fucking retarded this makes
> American voters look?
You sir are incapable of adult conversation. Putin is a 21st century communist...in the model of Communist china. His interests are 100% contrary to US interests. Your support of him puts you 100% against US interests. Traitor!
-------------------------------------------------------
> Clog Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Listen fellas...the was a time when people
> > believed Communist leaders over our President
> they
> > were called traitors. Now they are called
> > Republicans. Just go on and tell Jane Fonda to
> > move on over and make room for of you.
>
>
> Putin is not a communist, he is a nationalist and
> an authoritarian. He is an enemy of the U.S. 90%
> of the time, he proved that with Snowden.
>
> As much as it pains me to admit though, Putin is a
> competent adult. Obozo is not. Obozo is being
> guided by a cabal of leftist academic twats- Susan
> Rice, Valerie Jarrett Samantha Powers.
>
> I am fine with Obozo making himself look bad, but
> he degrades the whole nation when he gives a creep
> like Putin the wiggle room to pull a public
> relations stunt like this.
>
> Don't you realize how fucking retarded this makes
> American voters look?
You sir are incapable of adult conversation. Putin is a 21st century communist...in the model of Communist china. His interests are 100% contrary to US interests. Your support of him puts you 100% against US interests. Traitor!
Re: Putin trumps Obama again with Op-Ed
Posted by:
Tricia
()
Date: September 12, 2013 09:04AM
WingNut Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Coming soon, Russia will likely wield far more
> power on the world stage.
>
> Look for a Russian trade presence in Egypt, who is
> newly hostile to America, (even though the Media
> told Obama his Cairo speech in '09 was so epic)
>
> Look for more Russian influence in Libya. And
> watch as Putin plays dirty and meddles with some
> of the breakaways and former Soviet republics.
> (hint: SELL Georgia and Ukraine, BUY Belarus)
>
>
> Just watch it unfold Ferfagz, you silly little
> fella.
>
> Obama is seen as a fool worldwide. In Europe,
> Asia, the Middle East. Everywhere. It goes only to
> reason that only fools would elect such a fool. We
> have become a culturally mindless and unthinking
> nation.
>
>
> Congratulations!
If the world wants to deal with the Russians..let them...they'll learn very quickly all the advantages of dong so.
-------------------------------------------------------
> Coming soon, Russia will likely wield far more
> power on the world stage.
>
> Look for a Russian trade presence in Egypt, who is
> newly hostile to America, (even though the Media
> told Obama his Cairo speech in '09 was so epic)
>
> Look for more Russian influence in Libya. And
> watch as Putin plays dirty and meddles with some
> of the breakaways and former Soviet republics.
> (hint: SELL Georgia and Ukraine, BUY Belarus)
>
>
> Just watch it unfold Ferfagz, you silly little
> fella.
>
> Obama is seen as a fool worldwide. In Europe,
> Asia, the Middle East. Everywhere. It goes only to
> reason that only fools would elect such a fool. We
> have become a culturally mindless and unthinking
> nation.
>
>
> Congratulations!
If the world wants to deal with the Russians..let them...they'll learn very quickly all the advantages of dong so.
Re: Putin trumps Obama again with Op-Ed
Posted by:
Stabitha
()
Date: September 12, 2013 09:04AM
Obama- 0
Rest of World- 100,000
Rest of World- 100,000
Re: Putin trumps Obama again with Op-Ed
Posted by:
Diogenes
()
Date: September 12, 2013 09:14AM
I always ask myself the following questions to try and put these things in perspective.
1. Has there been an attack on the US?
2. Are there American soldiers in harms war?
3. Are our politicians anxious to go to war?
So far the answer to all those questions is an resounding NO!
1. Has there been an attack on the US?
2. Are there American soldiers in harms war?
3. Are our politicians anxious to go to war?
So far the answer to all those questions is an resounding NO!
Re: Putin trumps Obama again with Op-Ed
Posted by:
From
()
Date: September 12, 2013 09:15AM
Stabitha Wrote:
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> Obama- 0
> Rest of World- 100,000
And what's so wrong about that?
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> Obama- 0
> Rest of World- 100,000
And what's so wrong about that?
Re: Putin trumps Obama again with Op-Ed
Posted by:
WingNut
()
Date: September 12, 2013 09:17AM
Clog Wrote:
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> WingNut Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Clog Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Listen fellas...the was a time when people
> > > believed Communist leaders over our President
> > they
> > > were called traitors. Now they are called
> > > Republicans. Just go on and tell Jane Fonda
> to
> > > move on over and make room for of you.
> >
> >
> > Putin is not a communist, he is a nationalist
> and
> > an authoritarian. He is an enemy of the U.S.
> 90%
> > of the time, he proved that with Snowden.
> >
> > As much as it pains me to admit though, Putin is
> a
> > competent adult. Obozo is not. Obozo is being
> > guided by a cabal of leftist academic twats-
> Susan
> > Rice, Valerie Jarrett Samantha Powers.
> >
> > I am fine with Obozo making himself look bad,
> but
> > he degrades the whole nation when he gives a
> creep
> > like Putin the wiggle room to pull a public
> > relations stunt like this.
> >
> > Don't you realize how fucking retarded this
> makes
> > American voters look?
>
> You sir are incapable of adult conversation.
> Putin is a 21st century communist...in the model
> of Communist china. His interests are 100%
> contrary to US interests. Your support of him
> puts you 100% against US interests. Traitor!
I'm sure you're trolling but I will LOL with you..
Putin did to his credit, try to warn us of the Chechen brothers who bombed the Boston Marathon.
I guess Obama's intel folks were too busy fapping to some web intercepts.
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> WingNut Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Clog Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Listen fellas...the was a time when people
> > > believed Communist leaders over our President
> > they
> > > were called traitors. Now they are called
> > > Republicans. Just go on and tell Jane Fonda
> to
> > > move on over and make room for of you.
> >
> >
> > Putin is not a communist, he is a nationalist
> and
> > an authoritarian. He is an enemy of the U.S.
> 90%
> > of the time, he proved that with Snowden.
> >
> > As much as it pains me to admit though, Putin is
> a
> > competent adult. Obozo is not. Obozo is being
> > guided by a cabal of leftist academic twats-
> Susan
> > Rice, Valerie Jarrett Samantha Powers.
> >
> > I am fine with Obozo making himself look bad,
> but
> > he degrades the whole nation when he gives a
> creep
> > like Putin the wiggle room to pull a public
> > relations stunt like this.
> >
> > Don't you realize how fucking retarded this
> makes
> > American voters look?
>
> You sir are incapable of adult conversation.
> Putin is a 21st century communist...in the model
> of Communist china. His interests are 100%
> contrary to US interests. Your support of him
> puts you 100% against US interests. Traitor!
I'm sure you're trolling but I will LOL with you..
Putin did to his credit, try to warn us of the Chechen brothers who bombed the Boston Marathon.
I guess Obama's intel folks were too busy fapping to some web intercepts.
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Re: Putin trumps Obama again with Op-Ed
Posted by:
liberal logic 27
()
Date: September 12, 2013 09:38AM
WingNut Wrote:
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> Putin did to his credit, try to warn us of the
> Chechen brothers who bombed the Boston Marathon.
You, sir and/or madam, are a liar.
http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2013/04/putin-says-russias-tip-on-boston-bombing-suspect-didnt-have-operative-significance.php
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> Putin did to his credit, try to warn us of the
> Chechen brothers who bombed the Boston Marathon.
You, sir and/or madam, are a liar.
http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2013/04/putin-says-russias-tip-on-boston-bombing-suspect-didnt-have-operative-significance.php
Re: Putin trumps Obama again with Op-Ed
Posted by:
9/12/2013
()
Date: September 12, 2013 09:54AM
Stabitha Wrote:
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> Stabitha- 0
> Rest of World- 100,000,000,001
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> Stabitha- 0
> Rest of World- 100,000,000,001
Re: Putin trumps Obama again with Op-Ed
Posted by:
FUNdamental
()
Date: September 12, 2013 10:30AM
In April 2009, Barack Obama responded to a journalist's question in Strasbourg with the statement, "I believe in American exceptionalism, just as I suspect that the Brits believe in British exceptionalism and the Greeks believe in Greek exceptionalism."In the same response, Obama noted that "I see no contradiction between believing that America has a continued extraordinary role in leading the world towards peace and prosperity and recognizing that that leadership is incumbent, depends on, our ability to create partnerships because we create partnerships because we can't solve these problems alone."
Mitt Romney attacked Obama's statement, arguing it showed Obama did not believe in American exceptionalism.
Former Arkansas Governor Mike Huckabee said that Obama's "worldview is dramatically different than any president, Republican or Democrat, we've had...He grew up more as a globalist than an American. To deny American exceptionalism is in essence to deny the heart and soul of this nation."
"The New Battle:What It Means to be American," August 20, 2010,
So, Obama gets it right and the Conservative flag waiving Bozos attack him for it.
Now Putin is attacking the Conservative Bozos.
Mitt Romney attacked Obama's statement, arguing it showed Obama did not believe in American exceptionalism.
Former Arkansas Governor Mike Huckabee said that Obama's "worldview is dramatically different than any president, Republican or Democrat, we've had...He grew up more as a globalist than an American. To deny American exceptionalism is in essence to deny the heart and soul of this nation."
"The New Battle:What It Means to be American," August 20, 2010,
So, Obama gets it right and the Conservative flag waiving Bozos attack him for it.
Now Putin is attacking the Conservative Bozos.
Re: Putin trumps Obama again with Op-Ed
Posted by:
Ralph Pootawn
()
Date: September 12, 2013 12:23PM
Weak Link Wrote:
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> Again shows how weak of a leader Obama is. Never
> thought I would say this but props to Putin for
> doing the right thing.
x2
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> Again shows how weak of a leader Obama is. Never
> thought I would say this but props to Putin for
> doing the right thing.
x2
Re: Putin trumps Obama again with Op-Ed
Posted by:
DNcCU
()
Date: September 12, 2013 12:29PM
I love repubs - Obama goes and makes a deal with Putin to make sure we do not get caught up in another war and you idiots think it is bad thing.
The re=st of the world admires Obama for working with Russia to come to a peaceful agreement. But, repubs, think that makes us look weak - LOL........ONLY people who watch FOX would believe such bullshit.
Repubs have been bitching about:
going to war
not going to war
bullying the rest of the world
not bullying the rest of the world
using diplomacy
not using diplomacy
allowing chemical weapons to be used
not allowing chemical weapons to be used
The ONLY people who do not see the obstruction and obvious "ANYTHING Obama does is BAD" republican syndrome, is the repubs. The are consistently the most ignorant people on the planet, no where on earth can you find a group of people who ignore reality and facts as much as these sheep do - amazing.
Here is a perfect example, that is FACT. If "Obamacare" was put up by a conservative they would support it 100% and defend any criticisms that are brought up.
The re=st of the world admires Obama for working with Russia to come to a peaceful agreement. But, repubs, think that makes us look weak - LOL........ONLY people who watch FOX would believe such bullshit.
Repubs have been bitching about:
going to war
not going to war
bullying the rest of the world
not bullying the rest of the world
using diplomacy
not using diplomacy
allowing chemical weapons to be used
not allowing chemical weapons to be used
The ONLY people who do not see the obstruction and obvious "ANYTHING Obama does is BAD" republican syndrome, is the repubs. The are consistently the most ignorant people on the planet, no where on earth can you find a group of people who ignore reality and facts as much as these sheep do - amazing.
Here is a perfect example, that is FACT. If "Obamacare" was put up by a conservative they would support it 100% and defend any criticisms that are brought up.
Re: Putin trumps Obama again with Op-Ed
Posted by:
John Nolte
()
Date: September 12, 2013 12:30PM
Apparently, once again with respect to Syria, the White House was caught off guard by events they are frantically reacting to instead of shaping. Speaking to CNN's Jake Tapper, a White House official publicly responded to Russian President Vladmir Putin's New York Times op-ed with the admission that Putin "now owns" and has "fully asserted ownership" of America's current foreign policy focal point; pushing Syria to surrender its chemical weapons:
“That’s all irrelevant,” the White House official said in response [to Putin's op-ed]. “He put this proposal forward and he’s now invested in it. That’s good. That’s the best possible reaction. He’s fully invested in Syria’s CW disarmament and that’s potentially better than a military strike – which would deter and degrade but wouldn’t get rid of all the chemical weapons. He now owns this. He has fully asserted ownership of it and he needs to deliver.”
On its face, the lack of statesmanship in the language of "owns this" is troubling enough. And while it is apparent that what the White House is trying do here is frame a failure to rid Syria of its chemical weapons as a personal failure for Putin, once again we have a White House playing checkers as Putin plays three-dimensional chess.
Forget the fact that Putin isn't George W. Bush; someone who will sit quietly as the White House and its media allies attempt to put the blame on anyone other than the man responsible. Let us also forget that Putin's brilliant tactical move of saying "yes," to an offer an off-script Secretary of State was sure would be refused, has nothing to do with the goal of disarming Syria and everything to do with ensuring his BFF Syrian president Bashar Assad stays in power.
No, what is so troubling about the White House's amateurish response to Putin's op-ed is that they are giving Putin exactly what he wants: "ownership" of the tune Barack Obama is currently and feverishly dancing to.
By admitting Putin "owns" and "put this proposal forward," the White house is admitting they had nothing to do with shaping or creating the very proposal that is right now driving American foreign policy. Essentially, the White House is admitting that Putin is in charge and that America is following his lead. In other words, it is the Russian president driving American foreign policy, and America doesn't even have control over whether or not that policy succeeds or fails!
With his off-teleprompter red line remark last year, President Obama blundered himself and this country into a humiliating mess. With his off-script "offer" this week, John Kerry blundered right into the hands of Putin and made Russia the world player it has wanted to be since the fall of the Berlin Wall.
And now the White House has blundered again into Putin's trap because they thought a good way to respond to Putin using the pages of the New York Times to troll Americans and gloat in front of America over his victory, was to admit Putin really is steering the ship of state.
“That’s all irrelevant,” the White House official said in response [to Putin's op-ed]. “He put this proposal forward and he’s now invested in it. That’s good. That’s the best possible reaction. He’s fully invested in Syria’s CW disarmament and that’s potentially better than a military strike – which would deter and degrade but wouldn’t get rid of all the chemical weapons. He now owns this. He has fully asserted ownership of it and he needs to deliver.”
On its face, the lack of statesmanship in the language of "owns this" is troubling enough. And while it is apparent that what the White House is trying do here is frame a failure to rid Syria of its chemical weapons as a personal failure for Putin, once again we have a White House playing checkers as Putin plays three-dimensional chess.
Forget the fact that Putin isn't George W. Bush; someone who will sit quietly as the White House and its media allies attempt to put the blame on anyone other than the man responsible. Let us also forget that Putin's brilliant tactical move of saying "yes," to an offer an off-script Secretary of State was sure would be refused, has nothing to do with the goal of disarming Syria and everything to do with ensuring his BFF Syrian president Bashar Assad stays in power.
No, what is so troubling about the White House's amateurish response to Putin's op-ed is that they are giving Putin exactly what he wants: "ownership" of the tune Barack Obama is currently and feverishly dancing to.
By admitting Putin "owns" and "put this proposal forward," the White house is admitting they had nothing to do with shaping or creating the very proposal that is right now driving American foreign policy. Essentially, the White House is admitting that Putin is in charge and that America is following his lead. In other words, it is the Russian president driving American foreign policy, and America doesn't even have control over whether or not that policy succeeds or fails!
With his off-teleprompter red line remark last year, President Obama blundered himself and this country into a humiliating mess. With his off-script "offer" this week, John Kerry blundered right into the hands of Putin and made Russia the world player it has wanted to be since the fall of the Berlin Wall.
And now the White House has blundered again into Putin's trap because they thought a good way to respond to Putin using the pages of the New York Times to troll Americans and gloat in front of America over his victory, was to admit Putin really is steering the ship of state.
Re: Putin trumps Obama again with Op-Ed
Posted by:
liberal logic 27
()
Date: September 12, 2013 12:39PM
John Nolte Wrote:
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Blah, blah, blah
You forgot the attribution:
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Peace/2013/09/12/White-House-Putin-Owns-worlds-syria-strategy
Breitbart? These clowns are so rabid in their hatred of this administration that they actually make FOX NEWS appear to be 'fair & balanced' by comparison. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
Conservaturds!
LoLz!
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Blah, blah, blah
You forgot the attribution:
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Peace/2013/09/12/White-House-Putin-Owns-worlds-syria-strategy
Breitbart? These clowns are so rabid in their hatred of this administration that they actually make FOX NEWS appear to be 'fair & balanced' by comparison. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
Conservaturds!
LoLz!
Re: Putin trumps Obama again with Op-Ed
Posted by:
NTejD
()
Date: September 12, 2013 12:40PM
“That’s all irrelevant,” the White House official said in response [to Putin's op-ed]. “He put this proposal forward and he’s now invested in it. That’s good. That’s the best possible reaction. He’s fully invested in Syria’s CW disarmament and that’s potentially better than a military strike – which would deter and degrade but wouldn’t get rid of all the chemical weapons. He now owns this. He has fully asserted ownership of it and he needs to deliver.”
EXACTLY!
Obama dealt with a leader no one else could and is putting Russia to task.
ONLY fools think this was a bad thing or that it somehow weakens the USA.
FOX and brain-dead repubs will bitch and moan, while the adults get shit done.
All the repubs yelling "Let other countries take care of this!!!" "We do not have the money or military to do so much, let some other countries take care of Syria!!"
Welllll, Obama just did fuck heads.
EXACTLY!
Obama dealt with a leader no one else could and is putting Russia to task.
ONLY fools think this was a bad thing or that it somehow weakens the USA.
FOX and brain-dead repubs will bitch and moan, while the adults get shit done.
All the repubs yelling "Let other countries take care of this!!!" "We do not have the money or military to do so much, let some other countries take care of Syria!!"
Welllll, Obama just did fuck heads.
Re: Putin trumps Obama again with Op-Ed
Posted by:
Peter Baker
()
Date: September 12, 2013 12:52PM
liberal logic 27 Wrote:
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> John Nolte Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> Blah, blah, blah
>
> You forgot the attribution:
>
> http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Peace/2013/09/12/Whit
> e-House-Putin-Owns-worlds-syria-strategy
>
> Breitbart? These clowns are so rabid in their
> hatred of this administration that they actually
> make FOX NEWS appear to be 'fair & balanced' by
> comparison. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
>
> Conservaturds!
>
> LoLz!
Wasn't intended to be fair and balanced. Unfortunately, it is accurate.
If you don't like that one, then you can read effectively the same using different words here:
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/09/12/world/middleeast/Obamas-Pivots-on-Syria-Confrontation.html?pagewanted=all
"But to Mr. Obama’s detractors, including many in his own party, he has shown a certain fecklessness with his decisions first to outsource the decision to lawmakers in the face of bipartisan opposition and then to embrace a Russian diplomatic alternative that even his own advisers consider dubious. Instead of displaying decisive leadership, Mr. Obama, to these critics, has appeared reactive, defensive and profoundly challenged in standing up to a dangerous world.
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> John Nolte Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> Blah, blah, blah
>
> You forgot the attribution:
>
> http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Peace/2013/09/12/Whit
> e-House-Putin-Owns-worlds-syria-strategy
>
> Breitbart? These clowns are so rabid in their
> hatred of this administration that they actually
> make FOX NEWS appear to be 'fair & balanced' by
> comparison. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
>
> Conservaturds!
>
> LoLz!
Wasn't intended to be fair and balanced. Unfortunately, it is accurate.
If you don't like that one, then you can read effectively the same using different words here:
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/09/12/world/middleeast/Obamas-Pivots-on-Syria-Confrontation.html?pagewanted=all
"But to Mr. Obama’s detractors, including many in his own party, he has shown a certain fecklessness with his decisions first to outsource the decision to lawmakers in the face of bipartisan opposition and then to embrace a Russian diplomatic alternative that even his own advisers consider dubious. Instead of displaying decisive leadership, Mr. Obama, to these critics, has appeared reactive, defensive and profoundly challenged in standing up to a dangerous world.
Re: Putin trumps Obama again with Op-Ed
Posted by:
WaPo
()
Date: September 12, 2013 12:56PM
Or here:
The Post’s View
Stumbling toward a solution on Syria
By Editorial Board, Published: September 10
President Obama approached his address to the country Tuesday night in a deep political hole - one largely of his own digging. As the president and his aides have argued for a military response to Syria’s use of chemical weapons, support for a strike among Americans and members of Congress has decreased. That’s largely because Mr. Obama and his administration offered stumbling, improvised and often inconsistent explanations for why military action is needed and what effect it would have. And that was before Monday’s dizzying pivot toward an ad hoc diplomatic initiative to place Syria’s arsenal under international supervision...
http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/the-benefit-of-the-syrian-disarmament-initiative/2013/09/10/1af9db42-1a29-11e3-8685-5021e0c41964_story.html
The Post’s View
Stumbling toward a solution on Syria
By Editorial Board, Published: September 10
President Obama approached his address to the country Tuesday night in a deep political hole - one largely of his own digging. As the president and his aides have argued for a military response to Syria’s use of chemical weapons, support for a strike among Americans and members of Congress has decreased. That’s largely because Mr. Obama and his administration offered stumbling, improvised and often inconsistent explanations for why military action is needed and what effect it would have. And that was before Monday’s dizzying pivot toward an ad hoc diplomatic initiative to place Syria’s arsenal under international supervision...
http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/the-benefit-of-the-syrian-disarmament-initiative/2013/09/10/1af9db42-1a29-11e3-8685-5021e0c41964_story.html
Re: Putin trumps Obama again with Op-Ed
Posted by:
Vexxxed
()
Date: September 12, 2013 12:59PM
NTejD Wrote:
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> “That’s all irrelevant,” the White House
> official said in response [to Putin's op-ed].
> “ and that’s potentially better than a military strike .”
Only a fool would believe this was a win for Obama.
Now that the White House has stated that Putin's deal is 'better than a military strike', why didn't our president simply dial up Kerry's old dinner partner and ask him if he would be willing to give up the chemical weapons?
Further, how is it ever a good idea to arm these "rebels" when everything points to them being Al Qaeda?
Your contention that Obama just scared Putin into acting on our behalf is more than laughable. It's dangerous.
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> “That’s all irrelevant,” the White House
> official said in response [to Putin's op-ed].
> “ and that’s potentially better than a military strike .”
Only a fool would believe this was a win for Obama.
Now that the White House has stated that Putin's deal is 'better than a military strike', why didn't our president simply dial up Kerry's old dinner partner and ask him if he would be willing to give up the chemical weapons?
Further, how is it ever a good idea to arm these "rebels" when everything points to them being Al Qaeda?
Your contention that Obama just scared Putin into acting on our behalf is more than laughable. It's dangerous.
Re: Putin trumps Obama again with Op-Ed
Posted by:
cbFVy
()
Date: September 12, 2013 01:02PM
Peter Baker Wrote:
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> Wasn't intended to be fair and balanced.
>
> If you don't like that one, then you can read
> effectively the same using different words.
These 2 statements sum up the repubs 100%.
They are just mad Obama knocked this one out of the park again.
Just think of the shit the repubs would be spewing out if Obama told Putin, "No Thanks" and went ahead with the military strike. They would STILL FIND shit to bitch about.
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> Wasn't intended to be fair and balanced.
>
> If you don't like that one, then you can read
> effectively the same using different words.
These 2 statements sum up the repubs 100%.
They are just mad Obama knocked this one out of the park again.
Just think of the shit the repubs would be spewing out if Obama told Putin, "No Thanks" and went ahead with the military strike. They would STILL FIND shit to bitch about.
Re: Putin trumps Obama again with Op-Ed
Posted by:
Vexxxed
()
Date: September 12, 2013 01:07PM
liberal logic 27 Wrote:
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> John Nolte Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> Blah, blah, blah
>
> You forgot the attribution:
>
> http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Peace/2013/09/12/Whit
> e-House-Putin-Owns-worlds-syria-strategy
>
> Breitbart? These clowns are so rabid in their
> hatred of this administration that they actually
> make FOX NEWS appear to be 'fair & balanced' by
> comparison. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
>
> Conservaturds!
>
> LoLz!
Since Breitbart doesn't subscribe to your idea of sucking up to your god, they can't possibly be right in their conclusions can they?
Too bad they're speaking for and to the majority of the country.
"Only four in ten approve of the job Obama is doing on foreign policy, with 57% of those questioned giving the president a thumbs down. The 40% approval rating on foreign policy is Obama's lowest level ever on that issue in CNN polling."
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2013/09/09/obama-hits-new-low-on-foreign-policy-in-cnn-polling/
Oh wait....Breitbart must have infiltrated CNN's polling division.
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> John Nolte Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> Blah, blah, blah
>
> You forgot the attribution:
>
> http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Peace/2013/09/12/Whit
> e-House-Putin-Owns-worlds-syria-strategy
>
> Breitbart? These clowns are so rabid in their
> hatred of this administration that they actually
> make FOX NEWS appear to be 'fair & balanced' by
> comparison. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
>
> Conservaturds!
>
> LoLz!
Since Breitbart doesn't subscribe to your idea of sucking up to your god, they can't possibly be right in their conclusions can they?
Too bad they're speaking for and to the majority of the country.
"Only four in ten approve of the job Obama is doing on foreign policy, with 57% of those questioned giving the president a thumbs down. The 40% approval rating on foreign policy is Obama's lowest level ever on that issue in CNN polling."
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2013/09/09/obama-hits-new-low-on-foreign-policy-in-cnn-polling/
Oh wait....Breitbart must have infiltrated CNN's polling division.
Re: Putin trumps Obama again with Op-Ed
Posted by:
liberal logic 27
()
Date: September 12, 2013 01:11PM
Vexxxed Wrote:
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> Since Breitbart doesn't subscribe to your idea of
> sucking up to your god, they can't possibly be
> right in their conclusions can they?
Breitbart is staffed by third-rate partisan hacks. Do you work there?
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> Since Breitbart doesn't subscribe to your idea of
> sucking up to your god, they can't possibly be
> right in their conclusions can they?
Breitbart is staffed by third-rate partisan hacks. Do you work there?
Re: Putin trumps Obama again with Op-Ed
Posted by:
Peggy Noonan
()
Date: September 12, 2013 01:17PM
cbFVy Wrote:
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> These 2 statements sum up the repubs 100%.
>
>
>
> They are just mad Obama knocked this one out of
> the park again.
>
> Just think of the shit the repubs would be spewing
> out if Obama told Putin, "No Thanks" and went
> ahead with the military strike. They would STILL
> FIND shit to bitch about.
That 'right-winger' Peggy Noonan had your dumb talking points nailed before they gave them to you. lol
"...The speech will end. Polls will be taken. Maybe a mild uptick, maybe a flatline. Probably more or less the latter—people have made up their mind. They sense the crisis has passed or is passing. They’re not keen for more presidential rhetoric.
Then get ready for the spin job of all spin jobs. It’s already begun: the White House is beginning to repeat that a diplomatic solution only came because the president threatened force. That is going to be followed by something that will grate on Republicans, conservatives, and foreign-policy journalists and professionals. But many Democrats will find it sweet, and some in the political press will go for it, if for no other reason than it’s a new story line.
It is that Syria was not a self-made mess, an example of historic incompetence. It was Obama’s Cuban Missile Crisis—high-stakes, eyeball-to-eyeball, with weapons of mass destruction and an implacable foe. The steady waiting it out, the inner anguish, the idea that crosses the Telex that seems to soften the situation. A cool, calibrated, chancy decision to go with the idea, to make a measured diplomatic concession. In the end it got us through the crisis.
Really, they’re going to say this. And only in part because this White House is full of people who know nothing—really nothing—about history. They’ve only seen movies."
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> These 2 statements sum up the repubs 100%.
>
>
>
> They are just mad Obama knocked this one out of
> the park again.
>
> Just think of the shit the repubs would be spewing
> out if Obama told Putin, "No Thanks" and went
> ahead with the military strike. They would STILL
> FIND shit to bitch about.
That 'right-winger' Peggy Noonan had your dumb talking points nailed before they gave them to you. lol
"...The speech will end. Polls will be taken. Maybe a mild uptick, maybe a flatline. Probably more or less the latter—people have made up their mind. They sense the crisis has passed or is passing. They’re not keen for more presidential rhetoric.
Then get ready for the spin job of all spin jobs. It’s already begun: the White House is beginning to repeat that a diplomatic solution only came because the president threatened force. That is going to be followed by something that will grate on Republicans, conservatives, and foreign-policy journalists and professionals. But many Democrats will find it sweet, and some in the political press will go for it, if for no other reason than it’s a new story line.
It is that Syria was not a self-made mess, an example of historic incompetence. It was Obama’s Cuban Missile Crisis—high-stakes, eyeball-to-eyeball, with weapons of mass destruction and an implacable foe. The steady waiting it out, the inner anguish, the idea that crosses the Telex that seems to soften the situation. A cool, calibrated, chancy decision to go with the idea, to make a measured diplomatic concession. In the end it got us through the crisis.
Really, they’re going to say this. And only in part because this White House is full of people who know nothing—really nothing—about history. They’ve only seen movies."
Re: Putin trumps Obama again with Op-Ed
Posted by:
Ralph Pootawn
()
Date: September 12, 2013 01:18PM
liberal logic 27 Wrote:
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> Vexxxed Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
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> > Since Breitbart doesn't subscribe to your idea
> of
> > sucking up to your god, they can't possibly be
> > right in their conclusions can they?
>
> Breitbart is staffed by third-rate partisan hacks.
> Do you work there?
Sounds like you meant MSNBC and CNN
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> Vexxxed Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Since Breitbart doesn't subscribe to your idea
> of
> > sucking up to your god, they can't possibly be
> > right in their conclusions can they?
>
> Breitbart is staffed by third-rate partisan hacks.
> Do you work there?
Sounds like you meant MSNBC and CNN
Re: Putin trumps Obama again with Op-Ed
Posted by:
liberal logic 27
()
Date: September 12, 2013 01:20PM
Ralph Pootawn Wrote:
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> Sounds like you meant MSNBC and CNN
Nope. Breitbart.
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> Sounds like you meant MSNBC and CNN
Nope. Breitbart.
Re: Putin trumps Obama again with Op-Ed
Posted by:
liberal logic 27
()
Date: September 12, 2013 01:25PM
Good news: President Obama doesn't have to face election again. Ever.
Even better news: Whatever blowback might come from this Syria crisis will leave Hillary completely untouched.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 09/12/2013 01:48PM by liberal logic 27.
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Even better news: Whatever blowback might come from this Syria crisis will leave Hillary completely untouched.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 09/12/2013 01:48PM by liberal logic 27.
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Re: Putin trumps Obama again with Op-Ed
Posted by:
Mh96v
()
Date: September 12, 2013 01:42PM
When someone has NOTHING to say, they start to cite POLLS.
We all know polls are irrelevant and mean dick in real life.
We all know polls are irrelevant and mean dick in real life.
Re: Putin trumps Obama again with Op-Ed
Posted by:
Errf
()
Date: September 12, 2013 02:07PM
A great Op-ed by Putin.
Putin is correct. The United Nations should handle this. Russia and the US face the same radical Muslims so it makes sense to work together to rid the world of these thugs.
Putin is correct. The United Nations should handle this. Russia and the US face the same radical Muslims so it makes sense to work together to rid the world of these thugs.
Re: Putin trumps Obama again with Op-Ed
Posted by:
Vexxxed
()
Date: September 12, 2013 02:17PM
liberal logic 27 Wrote:
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> Vexxxed Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Since Breitbart doesn't subscribe to your idea
> of
> > sucking up to your god, they can't possibly be
> > right in their conclusions can they?
>
> Breitbart is staffed by third-rate partisan hacks.
> Do you work there?
Wow...did my point leave skid marks when it passed over your head?
While I agree Breitbart is staffed by partisans, I wouldn't call them third-rate nor hacks.
And evidently neither would 60% of the country.
Obama sucks. Breitbart points that out. 60% of the country agrees with them.
You lose.
No one has to take the blame for what Obama has become. No one but Obama anyway. But you really should stop sucking his dick like this, people are going to start rumors.
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> Vexxxed Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Since Breitbart doesn't subscribe to your idea
> of
> > sucking up to your god, they can't possibly be
> > right in their conclusions can they?
>
> Breitbart is staffed by third-rate partisan hacks.
> Do you work there?
Wow...did my point leave skid marks when it passed over your head?
While I agree Breitbart is staffed by partisans, I wouldn't call them third-rate nor hacks.
And evidently neither would 60% of the country.
Obama sucks. Breitbart points that out. 60% of the country agrees with them.
You lose.
No one has to take the blame for what Obama has become. No one but Obama anyway. But you really should stop sucking his dick like this, people are going to start rumors.
Re: Putin trumps Obama again with Op-Ed
Posted by:
liberal logic 27
()
Date: September 12, 2013 02:21PM
Vexxxed Wrote:
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> While I agree Breitbart is staffed by partisans, I
> wouldn't call them third-rate nor hacks.
>
> And evidently neither would 60% of the country.
60% of the country has never heard of Breitbart.
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> While I agree Breitbart is staffed by partisans, I
> wouldn't call them third-rate nor hacks.
>
> And evidently neither would 60% of the country.
60% of the country has never heard of Breitbart.
Re: Putin trumps Obama again with Op-Ed
Posted by:
ePyVG
()
Date: September 12, 2013 02:34PM
liberal logic 27 Wrote:
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> Vexxxed Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > While I agree Breitbart is staffed by partisans,
> I
> > wouldn't call them third-rate nor hacks.
> >
> > And evidently neither would 60% of the country.
>
> 60% of the country has never heard of Breitbart.
Which makes it even more on point that they'd agree with it independently.
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> Vexxxed Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > While I agree Breitbart is staffed by partisans,
> I
> > wouldn't call them third-rate nor hacks.
> >
> > And evidently neither would 60% of the country.
>
> 60% of the country has never heard of Breitbart.
Which makes it even more on point that they'd agree with it independently.
Re: Putin trumps Obama again with Op-Ed
Posted by:
liberal logic 27
()
Date: September 12, 2013 02:40PM
Huh? People cannot agree with something of which the know not.
60% of the country does not agree with Breitbart.
60% of the country does not agree with Breitbart.
Re: Putin trumps Obama again with Op-Ed
Posted by:
Barack Obama1
()
Date: September 12, 2013 02:44PM
Imagine my surprise when I opened the New York Times and read Vladimir Putin's Op-ed. I didn't know what I was reading for a few minutes. Sometime's my Chief of Staff will put The Onion in front of me just to shake things up so it took me a moment to realize this was not a joke.
First off, let me say I had a very nice time at the G20. The food was good, although a bit heavy for my taste, and the weather was pleasant. Certainly you can see the sky sometimes, which you can never do in China.
As I continued to read the Op-ed, I really couldn't understand whether we were being insulted or praised. Mr. Putin seemed to respect the United States for one paragraph, and then blast us in another. Now understand, I admire Mr. Putin. For his age he seems to be in great physical shape and even though I could kick his ass in basketball I do believe that if a bear were to attack the both of us, he would be the one to shoo it away.
But let's make one thing perfectly clear: this is written by a man who is the head of Russia. Russia, where the air conditioning in the room conked out even though I was in the Presidential Suite. Russia, where no one smiles and where people actually look disappointed that they are white.
Mr. Putin, we put a man on the moon and you barely got a monkey home safely. We invented the computer and you invented the way to steal it. Your country is filled with our fast food businesses and yet there is not one Russian take out place in the whole United States.
You are known for Siberia, we are known for Big Sur. We make Cadillacs and Lincolns and God knows what you call those little square deathtraps. It's one thing to put down exceptionalism, but before you do that, you at least have to produce one Broadway show, or make one commercial airliner, or invent one type of salad.
Having said that, your people are wonderful and I know that you care about them deeply, except, of course, for the gay ones. As a matter of fact, you care about them so much that you hate to see them argue, especially with you, so you graciously offer them the solace of prison.
In any case, I enjoyed your editorial and I am very impressed that it was printed in The New York Times. If only there was a newspaper in your country that would print this.
My very best wishes,
Barack Obama.
First off, let me say I had a very nice time at the G20. The food was good, although a bit heavy for my taste, and the weather was pleasant. Certainly you can see the sky sometimes, which you can never do in China.
As I continued to read the Op-ed, I really couldn't understand whether we were being insulted or praised. Mr. Putin seemed to respect the United States for one paragraph, and then blast us in another. Now understand, I admire Mr. Putin. For his age he seems to be in great physical shape and even though I could kick his ass in basketball I do believe that if a bear were to attack the both of us, he would be the one to shoo it away.
But let's make one thing perfectly clear: this is written by a man who is the head of Russia. Russia, where the air conditioning in the room conked out even though I was in the Presidential Suite. Russia, where no one smiles and where people actually look disappointed that they are white.
Mr. Putin, we put a man on the moon and you barely got a monkey home safely. We invented the computer and you invented the way to steal it. Your country is filled with our fast food businesses and yet there is not one Russian take out place in the whole United States.
You are known for Siberia, we are known for Big Sur. We make Cadillacs and Lincolns and God knows what you call those little square deathtraps. It's one thing to put down exceptionalism, but before you do that, you at least have to produce one Broadway show, or make one commercial airliner, or invent one type of salad.
Having said that, your people are wonderful and I know that you care about them deeply, except, of course, for the gay ones. As a matter of fact, you care about them so much that you hate to see them argue, especially with you, so you graciously offer them the solace of prison.
In any case, I enjoyed your editorial and I am very impressed that it was printed in The New York Times. If only there was a newspaper in your country that would print this.
My very best wishes,
Barack Obama.
Re: Putin trumps Obama again with Op-Ed
Posted by:
7J64V
()
Date: September 12, 2013 02:48PM
liberal logic 27 Wrote:
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> Huh? People cannot agree with something of which
> the know not.
>
> 60% of the country does not agree with Breitbart.
Even you aren't that stupid.
Nobody said nor cares whether they say they specifically 'agree with Breitbart.' They do agree with the same position as stated. That they would reach the same opinion independently even more makes the point.
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> Huh? People cannot agree with something of which
> the know not.
>
> 60% of the country does not agree with Breitbart.
Even you aren't that stupid.
Nobody said nor cares whether they say they specifically 'agree with Breitbart.' They do agree with the same position as stated. That they would reach the same opinion independently even more makes the point.
Re: Putin trumps Obama again with Op-Ed
Posted by:
liberal logic 27
()
Date: September 12, 2013 02:55PM
7J64V Wrote:
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> Nobody said nor cares whether they say they
> specifically 'agree with Breitbart.
Vexxxed said it, @ 02:17PM.
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> Nobody said nor cares whether they say they
> specifically 'agree with Breitbart.
Vexxxed said it, @ 02:17PM.
Re: Putin trumps Obama again with Op-Ed
Posted by:
Vexxxed
()
Date: September 12, 2013 03:01PM
liberal logic 27 Wrote:
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> 7J64V Wrote:
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> > Nobody said nor cares whether they say they
> > specifically 'agree with Breitbart.
>
> Vexxxed said it, @ 02:17PM.
Ferfux, you'd be amazed at how often you agree with Breitbart yet you're too stubborn to admit it.
And it doesn't fit your agenda.
Which one of these people are you?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z-sdO6pwVHQ
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> 7J64V Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
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> > Nobody said nor cares whether they say they
> > specifically 'agree with Breitbart.
>
> Vexxxed said it, @ 02:17PM.
Ferfux, you'd be amazed at how often you agree with Breitbart yet you're too stubborn to admit it.
And it doesn't fit your agenda.
Which one of these people are you?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z-sdO6pwVHQ
Re: Putin trumps Obama again with Op-Ed
Posted by:
liberal logic 27
()
Date: September 12, 2013 03:12PM
Vexxxed Wrote:
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> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z-sdO6pwVHQ
That was some funny shit.
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> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z-sdO6pwVHQ
That was some funny shit.
Re: Putin trumps Obama again with Op-Ed
Posted by:
Puhlease
()
Date: September 12, 2013 03:19PM
The people on this board trashing the President and supporting Putin are bitter, loser, Americans.
The day I listen to a guy that throws women in cages who muff dive, about ethics is the day I die.
The day I listen to a guy that throws women in cages who muff dive, about ethics is the day I die.
Re: Putin trumps Obama again with Op-Ed
Posted by:
CjyKu
()
Date: September 12, 2013 03:21PM
liberal logic 27 Wrote:
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> 7J64V Wrote:
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> > Nobody said nor cares whether they say they
> > specifically 'agree with Breitbart.
>
> Vexxxed said it, @ 02:17PM.
I take it back... apparently you ARE that stupid. lol
His point was clear to anyone else.
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> 7J64V Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
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> > Nobody said nor cares whether they say they
> > specifically 'agree with Breitbart.
>
> Vexxxed said it, @ 02:17PM.
I take it back... apparently you ARE that stupid. lol
His point was clear to anyone else.
Re: Putin trumps Obama again with Op-Ed
Posted by:
Vlad the Peacemaker
()
Date: September 12, 2013 03:48PM
Putin is now the most conservative writer at the New York Times.
Re: Putin trumps Obama again with Op-Ed
Posted by:
C3mUU
()
Date: September 12, 2013 04:24PM
Vlad the Peacemaker Wrote:
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> Putin is now the most conservative writer at the
> New York Times.
And makes more sense than most.
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> Putin is now the most conservative writer at the
> New York Times.
And makes more sense than most.
Re: Putin trumps Obama again with Op-Ed
Posted by:
Keeping It Real
()
Date: September 12, 2013 04:42PM
Clog Wrote:
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> WingNut Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Clog Wrote:
> >
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>
>....
> > American voters look?
>
> You sir are incapable of adult conversation.
> Putin is a 21st century communist...in the model
> of Communist china. His interests are 100%
> contrary to US interests. Your support of him
> puts you 100% against US interests. Traitor!
So disagreeing with you means one is not capable of adult conversation? Seems kinda shallow.
I don't think Wingie is supporting Putin, just dissing Obama. You know. like when the left was dissing Bush during Iraq. I'd like to think that those on the right have learned their lessons from how badly Bush's policies turned out. Sadly, it appears that many on the left have learned the exact opposite.
Either way, it's a good thing that we had to stand down from yet another follie in the Middle East. Russia has their only warm water port in Sryia. They aren't going to let it fall and a confrontation with the them isn't in our best interest since they are successfully creating a new oil hemegony with Iran, Iraq, Brazil, Venezuela and Northern Africa to go along with their own massive reserves. They have us over a barrel (no pun intended) since our own green energy programs have produced nothing but waste, fraud and pocket lining for POTUS friends and supporters. We've gone from the lone world superpower to a second rate country with a powerful military in 8 years. Sad.
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> WingNut Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Clog Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
>....
> > American voters look?
>
> You sir are incapable of adult conversation.
> Putin is a 21st century communist...in the model
> of Communist china. His interests are 100%
> contrary to US interests. Your support of him
> puts you 100% against US interests. Traitor!
So disagreeing with you means one is not capable of adult conversation? Seems kinda shallow.
I don't think Wingie is supporting Putin, just dissing Obama. You know. like when the left was dissing Bush during Iraq. I'd like to think that those on the right have learned their lessons from how badly Bush's policies turned out. Sadly, it appears that many on the left have learned the exact opposite.
Either way, it's a good thing that we had to stand down from yet another follie in the Middle East. Russia has their only warm water port in Sryia. They aren't going to let it fall and a confrontation with the them isn't in our best interest since they are successfully creating a new oil hemegony with Iran, Iraq, Brazil, Venezuela and Northern Africa to go along with their own massive reserves. They have us over a barrel (no pun intended) since our own green energy programs have produced nothing but waste, fraud and pocket lining for POTUS friends and supporters. We've gone from the lone world superpower to a second rate country with a powerful military in 8 years. Sad.
Re: Putin trumps Obama again with Op-Ed
Posted by:
Liberal Logic 28
()
Date: September 12, 2013 08:33PM
Clog Wrote:
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> You sir are incapable of adult conversation.
> Putin is a 21st century communist...in the model
> of Communist china. His interests are 100%
> contrary to US interests. Your support of him
> puts you 100% against US interests. Traitor!
Apparently you arent capable of one since you go right to the childish tactics. No ones supporting Putin. Obama and the left have been the ones all along telling us the cold war is over.
No matter what crap you try and pull it doesnt change the fact that Putin is the one dictating the situation. He has no respect for Obama and never has. Hes been making Obama look like a fool much like the nerd who does homework for the cool kid hoping theyll become friends.
Putin embarrassing Obama makes the country look bad which no one wants, but until we have someone who knows how to lead get used to it. The Saudis had to step in for negotiations with Russia to try and let us save a shred of dignity from the matter. Only the leftist American press is trying to play this off as anything but the complete embarrassment that it is
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> You sir are incapable of adult conversation.
> Putin is a 21st century communist...in the model
> of Communist china. His interests are 100%
> contrary to US interests. Your support of him
> puts you 100% against US interests. Traitor!
Apparently you arent capable of one since you go right to the childish tactics. No ones supporting Putin. Obama and the left have been the ones all along telling us the cold war is over.
No matter what crap you try and pull it doesnt change the fact that Putin is the one dictating the situation. He has no respect for Obama and never has. Hes been making Obama look like a fool much like the nerd who does homework for the cool kid hoping theyll become friends.
Putin embarrassing Obama makes the country look bad which no one wants, but until we have someone who knows how to lead get used to it. The Saudis had to step in for negotiations with Russia to try and let us save a shred of dignity from the matter. Only the leftist American press is trying to play this off as anything but the complete embarrassment that it is
Re: Putin trumps Obama again with Op-Ed
Posted by:
Liberal Logic 28
()
Date: September 12, 2013 08:36PM
liberal logic 27 Wrote:
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> Vexxxed Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Since Breitbart doesn't subscribe to your idea
> of
> > sucking up to your god, they can't possibly be
> > right in their conclusions can they?
>
> Breitbart is staffed by third-rate partisan hacks.
> Do you work there?
Thats the best response you have ferfux? Thats humors.
Can you post some more talkingpointsmemo links?
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> Vexxxed Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Since Breitbart doesn't subscribe to your idea
> of
> > sucking up to your god, they can't possibly be
> > right in their conclusions can they?
>
> Breitbart is staffed by third-rate partisan hacks.
> Do you work there?
Thats the best response you have ferfux? Thats humors.
Can you post some more talkingpointsmemo links?