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Trader Joe's To Drop Health Coverage For Part-Time Workers Under Obamacare
Posted by: Say it ain't so Joe ()
Date: September 11, 2013 06:39PM

Trader Joe's To Drop Health Coverage For Part-Time Workers Under Obamacare: Memo

Posted: 09/11/2013 7:35 am EDT Updated: 09/11/2013 4:54 pm EDT

After extending health care coverage to many of its part-time employees for years, Trader Joe's has told workers who log fewer than 30 hours a week that they will need to find insurance on the Obamacare exchanges next year, according to a confidential memo from the grocer's chief executive.

In the memo to staff dated Aug. 30, Trader Joe's CEO Dan Bane said the company will cut part-timers a check for $500 in January and help guide them toward finding a new plan under the Affordable Care Act. The company will continue to offer health coverage to workers who carry 30 hours or more on average.

The law mandates that companies with 50 employees or more offer coverage to such full-time employees, though the Obama administration has chosen to delay that rule for a year.

Trader Joe's has won kudos for offering its health care, dental and vision plans to part-time workers at a reasonable price -- a rarity in an industry known for low pay and scant benefits. But with low-wage workers eligible for tax subsidies to buy health insurance next year, the company has apparently calculated that offering medical coverage to part-timers who work 18 hours or more is no longer worth the cost.

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Re: Trader Joe's To Drop Health Coverage For Part-Time Workers Under Obamacare
Posted by: ywnV6 ()
Date: September 11, 2013 11:57PM

Wow. Anotherday, another company drops health care. I think it will soon become an avalanche of companies as more feel like it's an acceptable thing to do. This thing is a total disaster.


"...we have to pass the bill so that you can find out what is in it!" - Nancy Pelosi

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Re: Trader Joe's To Drop Health Coverage For Part-Time Workers Under Obamacare
Posted by: Rolling ()
Date: September 11, 2013 11:58PM

Smoke and mirrors.............a signaure of the administration.

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Re: Trader Joe's To Drop Health Coverage For Part-Time Workers Under Obamacare
Posted by: 3yJPV ()
Date: September 12, 2013 12:19AM

ywnV6 Wrote:
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> Wow. Anotherday, another company drops health
> care. I think it will soon become an avalanche of
> companies as more feel like it's an acceptable
> thing to do. This thing is a total disaster.
>
>
> "...we have to pass the bill so that you can find
> out what is in it!" - Nancy Pelosi


IBM is moving its retirees to a private exchange also.

Definitely is going to be an avalanche. Companies have been wanting to dump rising health care costs, risk from their pools, and all of the administrative expense and headaches involved for a long time. Now they have the opportunity to do so with a convenient justification and the endorsement of the government. And without it being a competitive disadvantage since most others will be doing the same. The ball has just started rolling and will pick up momentum as the employer mandates start to kick in.

The likely common model which will result is that described above and as IBM is doing - a company will give you $N for health care. You deal with it beyond that.

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Re: Trader Joe's To Drop Health Coverage For Part-Time Workers Under Obamacare
Posted by: TW ()
Date: September 12, 2013 09:31AM

3yJPV Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> ywnV6 Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Wow. Anotherday, another company drops health
> > care. I think it will soon become an avalanche
> of
> > companies as more feel like it's an acceptable
> > thing to do. This thing is a total disaster.
> >
> >
> > "...we have to pass the bill so that you can
> find
> > out what is in it!" - Nancy Pelosi
>
>
> IBM is moving its retirees to a private exchange
> also.
>
> Definitely is going to be an avalanche. Companies
> have been wanting to dump rising health care
> costs, risk from their pools, and all of the
> administrative expense and headaches involved for
> a long time. Now they have the opportunity to do
> so with a convenient justification and the
> endorsement of the government. And without it
> being a competitive disadvantage since most others
> will be doing the same. The ball has just started
> rolling and will pick up momentum as the employer
> mandates start to kick in.
>
> The likely common model which will result is that
> described above and as IBM is doing - a company
> will give you $N for health care. You deal with
> it beyond that.


Time Warner is also.

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Re: Trader Joe's To Drop Health Coverage For Part-Time Workers Under Obamacare
Posted by: liberal logic 27 ()
Date: September 12, 2013 09:40AM

Single-payer healthcare, here we come!

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Re: Trader Joe's To Drop Health Coverage For Part-Time Workers Under Obamacare
Posted by: Alias ()
Date: September 12, 2013 12:57PM

liberal logic 27 Wrote:
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> Single-payer healthcare, here we come!

Well, that was the goal all along.

Sadly, as a result of Obamacare, some of the best medical care in this country will no longer be available to everyone.

The Mayo Clinic has had to re-think its Medicare and Medicaid policies.

http://news.heartland.org/newspaper-article/mayo-clinic-makes-medicare-medicaid-cut

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Re: Trader Joe's To Drop Health Coverage For Part-Time Workers Under Obamacare
Posted by: liberal logic 27 ()
Date: September 12, 2013 01:07PM

Alias Wrote:
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> Sadly, as a result of Obamacare, some of the best
> medical care in this country will no longer be
> available to everyone.

Some of the best medical care in this country has never been available to everyone.

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Re: Trader Joe's To Drop Health Coverage For Part-Time Workers Under Obamacare
Posted by: Now departing... ()
Date: September 12, 2013 01:23PM

liberal logic 27 Wrote:
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> Alias Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Sadly, as a result of Obamacare, some of the
> best
> > medical care in this country will no longer be
> > available to everyone.
>
> Some of the best medical care in this country has
> never been available to everyone.


And this will just make it worse, especially for those at the middle and lower end. You're going to have a more distinct separation between those who can afford to pay for higher-end private care and treatments and those who cannot as the same works elsewhere. First class versus coach. All aboard...

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Re: Trader Joe's To Drop Health Coverage For Part-Time Workers Under Obamacare
Posted by: liberal logic 27 ()
Date: September 12, 2013 01:50PM

Now departing... Wrote:
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> And this will just make it worse, especially for
> those at the middle and lower end. You're going
> to have a more distinct separation between those
> who can afford to pay for higher-end private care
> and treatments and those who cannot as the same
> works elsewhere. First class versus coach. All
> aboard...

'First class versus coach.' That's the system we have now.

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Re: Trader Joe's To Drop Health Coverage For Part-Time Workers Under Obamacare
Posted by: Low IQ ()
Date: September 12, 2013 01:57PM

liberal logic 27 Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Alias Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Sadly, as a result of Obamacare, some of the
> best
> > medical care in this country will no longer be
> > available to everyone.
>
> Some of the best medical care in this country has
> never been available to everyone.


The Mayo Clinic IS one of the best medical facilities in this country, you idiot.

Other top facilities will be doing the same..... dumping or severely cutting services to medicare/medicaid patients.

Are you dense?

The poor will have fewer choices and far less access to good medical care than ever before, thanks to your dumbass president.

The stupidity of you people never ceases to amaze me.

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Re: Trader Joe's To Drop Health Coverage For Part-Time Workers Under Obamacare
Posted by: liberal logic 27 ()
Date: September 12, 2013 02:15PM

Low IQ Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> The Mayo Clinic IS one of the best medical
> facilities in this country, you idiot.
>
> Other top facilities will be doing the same.....
> dumping or severely cutting services to
> medicare/medicaid patients.
>
> Are you dense?
>
> The poor will have fewer choices and far less
> access to good medical care than ever before,
> thanks to your dumbass president.
>
> The stupidity of you people never ceases to amaze
> me.

Incoherent.


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Re: Trader Joe's To Drop Health Coverage For Part-Time Workers Under Obamacare
Posted by: wow, you're dumb ()
Date: September 12, 2013 02:19PM

liberal logic 27 Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Low IQ Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > The Mayo Clinic IS one of the best medical
> > facilities in this country, you idiot.
> >
> > Other top facilities will be doing the
> same.....
> > dumping or severely cutting services to
> > medicare/medicaid patients.
> >
> > Are you dense?
> >
> > The poor will have fewer choices and far less
> > access to good medical care than ever before,
> > thanks to your dumbass president.
> >
> > The stupidity of you people never ceases to
> amaze
> > me.
>
> Incoherent.


Actually, if you follow along, it makes sense. By you claiming it is incoherent, you are practically admitting your own stupidity. What is so incoherent about it?

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Re: Trader Joe's To Drop Health Coverage For Part-Time Workers Under Obamacare
Posted by: liberal logic 27 ()
Date: September 12, 2013 02:28PM

wow, you're dumb Wrote:
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> What is so incoherent about it?

> > The Mayo Clinic IS one of the best medical
> > facilities in this country, you idiot.

Where did I say otherwise?

> > Other top facilities will be doing the same.....

Have you a crystal ball? No.

> > dumping or severely cutting services to
> > medicare/medicaid patients.

Dumping what? Is English your native tongue? If so, go punch your high school English teacher in the face.

> > The poor will have fewer choices and far less
> > access to good medical care than ever before,
> > thanks to your dumbass president.

Again, upon what do you base this assertion?

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Re: Trader Joe's To Drop Health Coverage For Part-Time Workers Under Obamacare
Posted by: wow, you're dumb ()
Date: September 12, 2013 02:42PM

liberal logic 27 Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> wow, you're dumb Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > What is so incoherent about it?
>
> > > The Mayo Clinic IS one of the best medical
> > > facilities in this country, you idiot.
>
> Where did I say otherwise?
>
> > > Other top facilities will be doing the
> same.....
>
> Have you a crystal ball? No.
>
> > > dumping or severely cutting services to
> > > medicare/medicaid patients.
>
> Dumping what? Is English your native tongue? If
> so, go punch your high school English teacher in
> the face.
>
> > > The poor will have fewer choices and far less
> > > access to good medical care than ever before,
> > > thanks to your dumbass president.
>
> Again, upon what do you base this assertion?


Again, where is it incoherent? I didn't write the aforementioned post, but I can follow along just fine. Maybe you should consult your HS English teacher about your poor reading comprehension skills.

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Re: Trader Joe's To Drop Health Coverage For Part-Time Workers Under Obamacare
Posted by: 9NVp7 ()
Date: September 12, 2013 02:44PM

liberal logic 27 Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Now departing... Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > And this will just make it worse, especially
> for
> > those at the middle and lower end. You're
> going
> > to have a more distinct separation between
> those
> > who can afford to pay for higher-end private
> care
> > and treatments and those who cannot as the same
> > works elsewhere. First class versus coach.
> All
> > aboard...
>
> 'First class versus coach.' That's the system we
> have now.


No, it's not. A poor/old person who goes to the hospital gets the same treatment as anyone else. They get the same MRIs, radiation treatments, drugs prescribed, etc. That will and is changing to restrict various treatments based on cost/benefit. Such things then will only be available to those who can afford to go outside of the government system. Various expensive treatments and drugs will be kept off of the approved treatment guidelines. Even most honest proponents of the law acknowledge that will and *must* happen.

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Re: Trader Joe's To Drop Health Coverage For Part-Time Workers Under Obamacare
Posted by: you sound rather stupid ()
Date: September 12, 2013 03:14PM

liberal logic 27 Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> wow, you're dumb Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > What is so incoherent about it?
>
> > > The Mayo Clinic IS one of the best medical
> > > facilities in this country, you idiot.
>
> Where did I say otherwise?
>
> > > Other top facilities will be doing the
> same.....
>
> Have you a crystal ball? No.
>
> > > dumping or severely cutting services to
> > > medicare/medicaid patients.
>
> Dumping what? Is English your native tongue? If
> so, go punch your high school English teacher in
> the face.
>
> > > The poor will have fewer choices and far less
> > > access to good medical care than ever before,
> > > thanks to your dumbass president.
>
> Again, upon what do you base this assertion?


To liberal logic 27,

1. Are you this stupid in real life or do you just play the idiot on the internet?

2. Forget about English for the time being and take a few classes in economics and logic.

3. It's time to remove your head from Obama's ass and clean the shit off your face.

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Re: Trader Joe's To Drop Health Coverage For Part-Time Workers Under Obamacare
Posted by: From Da Hood ()
Date: September 12, 2013 08:35PM

you sound rather stupid Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
>
> To liberal logic 27,
>
> 1. Are you this stupid in real life or do you just
> play the idiot on the internet?
>
> 2. Forget about English for the time being and
> take a few classes in economics and logic.
>
> 3. It's time to remove your head from Obama's ass
> and clean the shit off your face.

Well said. However, Liberal Logic 27 will still come back and indicate your post was incoherent. "liberal logic" has to to be about the biggest oxymoron that I've ever heard.

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Re: Trader Joe's To Drop Health Coverage For Part-Time Workers Under Obamacare
Posted by: Liberal Logic 28 ()
Date: September 12, 2013 08:42PM

you sound rather stupid Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------

> To liberal logic 27,
>
> 1. Are you this stupid in real life or do you just
> play the idiot on the internet?
>
> 2. Forget about English for the time being and
> take a few classes in economics and logic.
>
> 3. It's time to remove your head from Obama's ass
> and clean the shit off your face.

Ferfux is in fact that stupid. Give it a few days and hell move onto a new screen just like always as he embarrasses himself over and over and over. Its why hes on his 50th screen name of the summer

Trying to reason with him would be like trying to convince Heavens Gate that Hail Bop wasnt there to save them. He will literally defend anything as the greatest thing ever as long as a liberal did it.

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Re: Trader Joe's To Drop Health Coverage For Part-Time Workers Under Obamacare
Posted by: liberal logic 27 ()
Date: September 12, 2013 09:27PM

Single-payer healthcare, here we come!

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Re: Trader Joe's To Drop Health Coverage For Part-Time Workers Under Obamacare
Posted by: V9Hpn ()
Date: September 12, 2013 09:30PM

From Da Hood Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------

> "liberal logic" has to to be about the biggest
> oxymoron that I've ever heard.


He was too dumb to realize that it was intentionally so when he stole it to register. Which kind of makes him a guy walking around all proud of himself for stealing that cool "I'm a dumbfuck" hat that he's wearing.

lmao

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Re: Trader Joe's To Drop Health Coverage For Part-Time Workers Under Obamacare
Posted by: liberal logic 27 ()
Date: September 12, 2013 10:39PM

V9Hpn Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> From Da Hood Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
>
> > "liberal logic" has to to be about the biggest
> > oxymoron that I've ever heard.
>
>
> He was too dumb to realize that it was
> intentionally so when he stole it to register.
> Which kind of makes him a guy walking around all
> proud of himself for stealing that cool "I'm a
> dumbfuck" hat that he's wearing.
>
> lmao


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Re: Trader Joe's To Drop Health Coverage For Part-Time Workers Under Obamacare
Posted by: v9vtF ()
Date: September 12, 2013 10:50PM

liberal logic 27 Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> V9Hpn Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > From Da Hood Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> >
> > > "liberal logic" has to to be about the
> biggest
> > > oxymoron that I've ever heard.
> >
> >
> > He was too dumb to realize that it was
> > intentionally so when he stole it to register.
> > Which kind of makes him a guy walking around
> all
> > proud of himself for stealing that cool "I'm a
> > dumbfuck" hat that he's wearing.
> >
> > lmao
>
>


uh no, it wasn't mine and I could care less.

If you want to walk around wearing an "I'm a dumbfuck" hat then that's just more entertainment for me in laughing at your idiot ass. lol

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