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Obama cites the "Great one" in speech.
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We need a Reagan type president.
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Date: September 10, 2013 03:33PM
Obama paraphrased Ronald Reagan in a speech before lawmakers today. I think it was a nice touch, Reagan's leagacy lives on.
Re: Obama cites the "Great one" in speech.
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Rolling
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Date: September 10, 2013 03:35PM
Reagan is probably rolling in his grave, being quoted by a bumbling idiot.
Re: Obama cites the "Great one" in speech.
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PaulinaG
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Date: September 10, 2013 03:41PM
Two bumbling idiots.
Re: Obama cites the "Great one" in speech.
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Voodoo Economist
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Date: September 10, 2013 03:50PM
Those idiot teabaggers would've shouted Reagan out of the party if he were alive today.
Re: Obama cites the "Great one" in speech.
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RJR
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Date: September 10, 2013 03:52PM
Bang, zoom! To the moon, Assad!
Re: Obama cites the "Great one" in speech.
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Rollng
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Date: September 10, 2013 03:52PM
Reagan is one of the greatest Presidents ever
Re: Obama cites the "Great one" in speech.
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we need a dictator
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Date: September 10, 2013 03:55PM
mother effers
Re: Obama cites the "Great one" in speech.
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Ha ah
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Date: September 10, 2013 04:09PM
The Syrians would sure think twice. I never saw such fast results as the release of the hostages from Iran, when Reagan was sworn in. The Arab world had a lot of respect for him, they knew he could "talk the talk and walk the walk>'
Re: Obama cites the "Great one" in speech.
Posted by:
ReadingBeFundamental
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Date: September 10, 2013 04:48PM
Ha ah Wrote:
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> The Syrians would sure think twice. I never saw
> such fast results as the release of the hostages
> from Iran, when Reagan was sworn in. The Arab
> world had a lot of respect for him, they knew he
> could "talk the talk and walk the walk>'
Yeah, he really kicked ass in Lebanon.
Oh, wait . . .
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> The Syrians would sure think twice. I never saw
> such fast results as the release of the hostages
> from Iran, when Reagan was sworn in. The Arab
> world had a lot of respect for him, they knew he
> could "talk the talk and walk the walk>'
Yeah, he really kicked ass in Lebanon.
Oh, wait . . .
Re: Obama cites the "Great one" in speech.
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Keeping It Real
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Date: September 10, 2013 04:51PM
Voodoo Economist Wrote:
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> Those idiot teabaggers would've shouted Reagan out
> of the party if he were alive today.
This is not true. Reagan would still be loved and embraced by the Tea Party. However, Kennedy would have been driven out of the Democrat party. He was for low tax rates on the upper income brackets, against affirmative action, was a bit of a hawk on defense and didn't believe in welfare. It was Johnson who implmented affirmative action, welfare and the other Great Society scams that have cost this country almost $25 Trillion.
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> Those idiot teabaggers would've shouted Reagan out
> of the party if he were alive today.
This is not true. Reagan would still be loved and embraced by the Tea Party. However, Kennedy would have been driven out of the Democrat party. He was for low tax rates on the upper income brackets, against affirmative action, was a bit of a hawk on defense and didn't believe in welfare. It was Johnson who implmented affirmative action, welfare and the other Great Society scams that have cost this country almost $25 Trillion.
Re: Obama cites the "Great one" in speech.
Posted by:
Vexxxed
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Date: September 10, 2013 05:06PM
Keeping It Real Wrote:
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> Voodoo Economist Wrote:
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> > Those idiot teabaggers would've shouted Reagan
> out
> > of the party if he were alive today.
>
>
> This is not true. Reagan would still be loved and
> embraced by the Tea Party. However, Kennedy would
> have been driven out of the Democrat party. He
> was for low tax rates on the upper income
> brackets, against affirmative action, was a bit of
> a hawk on defense and didn't believe in welfare.
> It was Johnson who implmented affirmative action,
> welfare and the other Great Society scams that
> have cost this country almost $25 Trillion.
Now you've gone and done it.
Facts have no place on a liberal tea party hating blog such as this one.
Get with the program.
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> Voodoo Economist Wrote:
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> > Those idiot teabaggers would've shouted Reagan
> out
> > of the party if he were alive today.
>
>
> This is not true. Reagan would still be loved and
> embraced by the Tea Party. However, Kennedy would
> have been driven out of the Democrat party. He
> was for low tax rates on the upper income
> brackets, against affirmative action, was a bit of
> a hawk on defense and didn't believe in welfare.
> It was Johnson who implmented affirmative action,
> welfare and the other Great Society scams that
> have cost this country almost $25 Trillion.
Now you've gone and done it.
Facts have no place on a liberal tea party hating blog such as this one.
Get with the program.
Re: Obama cites the "Great one" in speech.
Posted by:
Handleman
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Date: September 10, 2013 05:18PM
All those guys; Clintons, Obama, Kerry,before they make a move ask themselves: "What would Reagan have done in this situation?". You know it; and I know it!
Re: Obama cites the "Great one" in speech.
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Stabitha
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Date: September 10, 2013 07:19PM
Ronald Reagan exhumed and propped up in a corner would be a better POTUS than Obutthead.
Re: Obama cites the "Great one" in speech.
Posted by:
Super Mario
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Date: September 10, 2013 07:20PM
Wayne Gretzky?
Re: Obama cites the "Great one" in speech.
Posted by:
pervo vaccine needed
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Date: September 10, 2013 07:35PM
Stabitha Wrote:
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> Ronald Reagan exhumed and propped up in a corner
> would be a better POTUS than Obutthead.
Shouldn't you be posting pictures of your neighbors' underage daughters online?
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> Ronald Reagan exhumed and propped up in a corner
> would be a better POTUS than Obutthead.
Shouldn't you be posting pictures of your neighbors' underage daughters online?
Re: Obama cites the "Great one" in speech.
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Stabitha
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Date: September 10, 2013 07:57PM
pervo vaccine needed Wrote:
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> >
> Shouldn't you be posting pictures of your
> neighbors' underage daughters online?
You should have saved it instead of just jerking off right then.
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> >
> Shouldn't you be posting pictures of your
> neighbors' underage daughters online?
You should have saved it instead of just jerking off right then.
Re: Obama cites the "Great one" in speech.
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Obama is no fool
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Date: September 11, 2013 02:49PM
It is just smart speaking skills when you employ a quotation from a great historical president. Quotes from Jefferson, Lincoln, Grant, TR, FDR, Wilson or Reagan will only enhance your speech.
Re: Obama cites the "Great one" in speech.
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Bill.N.
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Date: September 11, 2013 02:53PM
I thought Jackie Gleason was the Great One. Reagan was the Great Communicator.
Re: Obama cites the "Great one" in speech.
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liberal logic 27
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Date: September 11, 2013 02:55PM
Rolling Wrote:
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> Reagan is probably rolling in his grave, being
> quoted by a bumbling idiot.
He's quoted by idiots every day on right-wing talk radio.
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> Reagan is probably rolling in his grave, being
> quoted by a bumbling idiot.
He's quoted by idiots every day on right-wing talk radio.
Re: Obama cites the "Great one" in speech.
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liberal logic 27
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Date: September 11, 2013 02:56PM
Rollng Wrote:
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> Reagan is one of the greatest Presidents ever
As is Obama.
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> Reagan is one of the greatest Presidents ever
As is Obama.
Re: Obama cites the "Great one" in speech.
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liberal logic 27
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Date: September 11, 2013 03:00PM
Ha ah Wrote:
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> The Syrians would sure think twice. I never saw
> such fast results as the release of the hostages
> from Iran, when Reagan was sworn in. The Arab
> world had a lot of respect for him, they knew he
> could "talk the talk and walk the walk>'
Mythology, my friend:
Neither Reagan nor his philosophy played any significant role in freeing the hostages.
"Well before Reagan became president, the deal for releasing the hostages had already been worked out by the Carter administration's State Department and the Iranians, ably assisted by Algerian diplomats," said David Farber, a Temple University historian and author of Taken Hostage: The Iranian Hostage Crisis and America's First Encounter with Radical Islam.
"No Reagan administration officials participated in the successful negotiations," Farber added. "The Iranian government waited to officially release the Americans until Carter had left the presidency as a final insult to Carter, whom they despised. They believed Carter had betrayed the Iranian revolution by allowing the self-exiled Shah to receive medical attention in the United States and then had threatened their new government by attempting, unsuccessfully, to use military force in April 1980 to free the hostages."
"By doing this, Iran thought they were showing the world that they could meddle in our affairs, just as we had done to them in 1953," added Dave Houghton, a political scientist at the University of Central Florida and author of U.S. Foreign Policy and the Iran Hostage Crisis. Houghton suggested that Iran had a relatively unsophisticated grasp of U.S. politics, and said he thinks it’s possible that the Iranians "didn’t even know what Reagan had said on the campaign trail."
"I don't think they were scared into the release," Houghton said. "In all likelihood, they released the hostages because they needed the sanctions we'd placed on them lifted so they could finance their war with Iraq."
The one scholar who entertained the possibility that Iran was taking heed of the future president’s philosophy was Michael Gunter, a political scientist at Tennessee Tech University and the author of several papers about the crisis. Still, Gunter added, the "main reason for the release" was that "the mileage the Iranians had gained by holding the hostages had been used for everything it was worth and there was no further advantage in continuing."
Several other experts agreed that the Iranians’ focus was on Carter, not Reagan.
"If it was related to the occupant of the White House, it certainly had more to do with Carter than Reagan," said Stephen Kinzer, a former New York Times reporter who now teaches at Boston University and authored the book, Reset: Iran, Turkey, and America’s Future. "My guess is that the hostages would have been released even if someone else had been inaugurated -- anyone but Carter. The Iranians had come to hate Carter and didn't want to give him a triumph. Giving it to someone else was fine with them."
Sick, the Columbia University professor, said that "those who wish to believe that the final flurry of activity was out of fear of Reagan have a right to their opinion. Those closer to the events believed that the Iranians, who had clearly decided months earlier that the hostages were a wasting asset, feared that they would have to start the whole laborious process of negotiation over from scratch with a new administration, which obviously had no great appeal."
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> The Syrians would sure think twice. I never saw
> such fast results as the release of the hostages
> from Iran, when Reagan was sworn in. The Arab
> world had a lot of respect for him, they knew he
> could "talk the talk and walk the walk>'
Mythology, my friend:
Neither Reagan nor his philosophy played any significant role in freeing the hostages.
"Well before Reagan became president, the deal for releasing the hostages had already been worked out by the Carter administration's State Department and the Iranians, ably assisted by Algerian diplomats," said David Farber, a Temple University historian and author of Taken Hostage: The Iranian Hostage Crisis and America's First Encounter with Radical Islam.
"No Reagan administration officials participated in the successful negotiations," Farber added. "The Iranian government waited to officially release the Americans until Carter had left the presidency as a final insult to Carter, whom they despised. They believed Carter had betrayed the Iranian revolution by allowing the self-exiled Shah to receive medical attention in the United States and then had threatened their new government by attempting, unsuccessfully, to use military force in April 1980 to free the hostages."
"By doing this, Iran thought they were showing the world that they could meddle in our affairs, just as we had done to them in 1953," added Dave Houghton, a political scientist at the University of Central Florida and author of U.S. Foreign Policy and the Iran Hostage Crisis. Houghton suggested that Iran had a relatively unsophisticated grasp of U.S. politics, and said he thinks it’s possible that the Iranians "didn’t even know what Reagan had said on the campaign trail."
"I don't think they were scared into the release," Houghton said. "In all likelihood, they released the hostages because they needed the sanctions we'd placed on them lifted so they could finance their war with Iraq."
The one scholar who entertained the possibility that Iran was taking heed of the future president’s philosophy was Michael Gunter, a political scientist at Tennessee Tech University and the author of several papers about the crisis. Still, Gunter added, the "main reason for the release" was that "the mileage the Iranians had gained by holding the hostages had been used for everything it was worth and there was no further advantage in continuing."
Several other experts agreed that the Iranians’ focus was on Carter, not Reagan.
"If it was related to the occupant of the White House, it certainly had more to do with Carter than Reagan," said Stephen Kinzer, a former New York Times reporter who now teaches at Boston University and authored the book, Reset: Iran, Turkey, and America’s Future. "My guess is that the hostages would have been released even if someone else had been inaugurated -- anyone but Carter. The Iranians had come to hate Carter and didn't want to give him a triumph. Giving it to someone else was fine with them."
Sick, the Columbia University professor, said that "those who wish to believe that the final flurry of activity was out of fear of Reagan have a right to their opinion. Those closer to the events believed that the Iranians, who had clearly decided months earlier that the hostages were a wasting asset, feared that they would have to start the whole laborious process of negotiation over from scratch with a new administration, which obviously had no great appeal."
Re: Obama cites the "Great one" in speech.
Posted by:
Wait
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Date: September 11, 2013 03:11PM
Ha ah Wrote:
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> The Syrians would sure think twice. I never saw
> such fast results as the release of the hostages
> from Iran, when Reagan was sworn in. The Arab
> world had a lot of respect for him, they knew he
> could "talk the talk and walk the walk>'
Who was President when Iraq used chemical weapons?
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> The Syrians would sure think twice. I never saw
> such fast results as the release of the hostages
> from Iran, when Reagan was sworn in. The Arab
> world had a lot of respect for him, they knew he
> could "talk the talk and walk the walk>'
Who was President when Iraq used chemical weapons?
Re: Obama cites the "Great one" in speech.
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liberal logic 28
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Date: September 11, 2013 05:28PM
liberal logic 27 Wrote:
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> Rollng Wrote:
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> > Reagan is one of the greatest Presidents ever
>
> As is Obama.
LOL i coudnt even read that without laughing.
I will give Obama credit in the sense hes still in the top 50 best US presidents.
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> Rollng Wrote:
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> > Reagan is one of the greatest Presidents ever
>
> As is Obama.
LOL i coudnt even read that without laughing.
I will give Obama credit in the sense hes still in the top 50 best US presidents.
Re: Obama cites the "Great one" in speech.
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liberal logic is a troll
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Date: September 11, 2013 05:58PM
liberal logic 28 Wrote:
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> I will give Obama credit in the sense hes still in
> the top 50 best US presidents.
Obama could not possible care any less about what you think.
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> I will give Obama credit in the sense hes still in
> the top 50 best US presidents.
Obama could not possible care any less about what you think.
Re: Obama cites the "Great one" in speech.
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liberal logic 28
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Date: September 11, 2013 06:02PM
liberal logic is a troll Wrote:
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> liberal logic 28 Wrote:
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> > I will give Obama credit in the sense hes still
> in
> > the top 50 best US presidents.
>
> Obama could not possible care any less about what
> you think.
Just like no one cares what people who think hes one of the greatest presidents ever think.
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> liberal logic 28 Wrote:
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> > I will give Obama credit in the sense hes still
> in
> > the top 50 best US presidents.
>
> Obama could not possible care any less about what
> you think.
Just like no one cares what people who think hes one of the greatest presidents ever think.
Re: Obama cites the "Great one" in speech.
Posted by:
WingNut
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Date: September 11, 2013 06:06PM
Obama isn't really any good at all.
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Re: Obama cites the "Great one" in speech.
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liberal logic 27
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Date: September 11, 2013 06:07PM
WingNut Wrote:
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> Obama isn't really any good at all.
Obama could not possible care any less about what you think.
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> Obama isn't really any good at all.
Obama could not possible care any less about what you think.
Re: Obama cites the "Great one" in speech.
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liberal logic 28
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Date: September 11, 2013 06:11PM
liberal logic 27 Wrote:
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> WingNut Wrote:
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> > Obama isn't really any good at all.
>
> Obama could not possible care any less about what
> you think.
Pick a screen name already. How many different names are you going to use to post the same mindless bs?
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> WingNut Wrote:
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> > Obama isn't really any good at all.
>
> Obama could not possible care any less about what
> you think.
Pick a screen name already. How many different names are you going to use to post the same mindless bs?
Re: Obama cites the "Great one" in speech.
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liberal logic 27
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Date: September 11, 2013 06:15PM
liberal logic 28 Wrote:
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> Pick a screen name already. How many different
> names are you going to use to post the same
> mindless bs?
Was that a note to yourself?
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> Pick a screen name already. How many different
> names are you going to use to post the same
> mindless bs?
Was that a note to yourself?
Re: Obama cites the "Great one" in speech.
Posted by:
Rolling
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Date: September 11, 2013 07:18PM
Obama is #1
#1 at Spending
#1 at Lying
#1 at Flip Flopping
#1 at Looknig Weak
and on and on and on
#1 at Spending
#1 at Lying
#1 at Flip Flopping
#1 at Looknig Weak
and on and on and on
Re: Obama cites the "Great one" in speech.
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Rent is too damn high
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Date: September 11, 2013 07:51PM
Put this guy in charge. The muslims and commies wont dare mess with him, he is too unpredictable. He might launch a nuke or shake their hands, no way of telling so they will leave him alone.
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Re: Obama cites the "Great one" in speech.
Posted by:
tomahawk
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Date: September 11, 2013 08:00PM
We need a Reagan type president. Wrote:
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> Obama paraphrased Ronald Reagan in a speech before
> lawmakers today. I think it was a nice touch,
> Reagan's leagacy lives on.
Reagan was not "The Great One" in the 80s, that title belongs to Number 99: Wayne Gretzky.
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> Obama paraphrased Ronald Reagan in a speech before
> lawmakers today. I think it was a nice touch,
> Reagan's leagacy lives on.
Reagan was not "The Great One" in the 80s, that title belongs to Number 99: Wayne Gretzky.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 09/11/2013 08:01PM by tomahawk.
Re: Obama cites the "Great one" in speech.
Posted by:
hulk
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Date: September 11, 2013 11:32PM
Wait Wrote:
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> Ha ah Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > The Syrians would sure think twice. I never
> saw
> > such fast results as the release of the
> hostages
> > from Iran, when Reagan was sworn in. The Arab
> > world had a lot of respect for him, they knew
> he
> > could "talk the talk and walk the walk>'
>
>
> Who was President when Iraq used chemical weapons?
Who was President when we were run out of Lebanon by terrorists?
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> Ha ah Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > The Syrians would sure think twice. I never
> saw
> > such fast results as the release of the
> hostages
> > from Iran, when Reagan was sworn in. The Arab
> > world had a lot of respect for him, they knew
> he
> > could "talk the talk and walk the walk>'
>
>
> Who was President when Iraq used chemical weapons?
Who was President when we were run out of Lebanon by terrorists?
Re: Obama cites the "Great one" in speech.
Posted by:
Opea
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Date: September 12, 2013 10:36AM
tomahawk Wrote:
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> We need a Reagan type president. Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Obama paraphrased Ronald Reagan in a speech
> before
> > lawmakers today. I think it was a nice touch,
> > Reagan's leagacy lives on.
>
>
> Reagan was not "The Great One" in the 80s, that
> title belongs to Number 99: Wayne Gretzky.
>
>
Was he Polish?
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> We need a Reagan type president. Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Obama paraphrased Ronald Reagan in a speech
> before
> > lawmakers today. I think it was a nice touch,
> > Reagan's leagacy lives on.
>
>
> Reagan was not "The Great One" in the 80s, that
> title belongs to Number 99: Wayne Gretzky.
>
>
Was he Polish?
Re: Obama cites the "Great one" in speech.
Posted by:
BEH
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Date: September 12, 2013 12:09PM
You’re only allowed three great women in your lifetime.
They come along like the great fighters, every ten years.
Rocky Marciano. Sugar Ray Robinson. Joe Louis.
Sometimes you get ‘em all at once. Me? I had my three when I was 16. That happens. What are you gonna do? That’s the way it goes, you know?
They come along like the great fighters, every ten years.
Rocky Marciano. Sugar Ray Robinson. Joe Louis.
Sometimes you get ‘em all at once. Me? I had my three when I was 16. That happens. What are you gonna do? That’s the way it goes, you know?