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Barack Obama: No Accomplishments
Posted by: Reston ()
Date: October 30, 2008 10:18AM


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Re: Barack Obama: No Accomplishments
Posted by: John McCain: Bush Clone ()
Date: October 30, 2008 10:43AM

Bush has been President for almost 8 years and still has no accomplishments. Besides, on the evening of Nov. 4th, Obama will have accomplished more than McCain ever will.

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Re: Barack Obama: No Accomplishments
Posted by: Reston ()
Date: October 30, 2008 10:50AM

Hitler was an inspirational and influential public speaker.............

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Re: Barack Obama: No Accomplishments
Posted by: TheMeeper ()
Date: October 30, 2008 10:56AM

Reston Wrote:
>>> Hitler was an inspirational and influential public speaker.............


Well according to that logic, anyone who speaks well is a murderous dictator. Yeah, that makes sense.

Maybe we should only elect sarcastic old geezers like McCain, or another dunderheaded mushmouth like our current nitwit.

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Re: Barack Obama: No Accomplishments
Posted by: Reston ()
Date: October 30, 2008 11:22AM

TheMeeper Wrote:
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> Reston Wrote:
> >>> Hitler was an inspirational and influential
> public speaker.............
>
>
> Well according to that logic, anyone who speaks
> well is a murderous dictator. Yeah, that makes
> sense.
>
> Maybe we should only elect sarcastic old geezers
> like McCain, or another dunderheaded mushmouth
> like our current nitwit.


Name one political accomplishment of Barrack Obama?

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Re: Barack Obama: No Accomplishments
Posted by: TheMeeper ()
Date: October 30, 2008 12:11PM

>> Name one political accomplishment of Barrack Obama

He was elected to the US Senate based on what he stood for, and not because of his family name, like McCain. Or Bush for that matter. There's no way either of those guys would be where they are today if it weren't for their powerful fathers and grandfathers. Obama didn't need nepotism and family political clout to get where he is today. McCain and Bush both did.

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Re: Barack Obama: No Accomplishments
Posted by: MrMephisto ()
Date: October 30, 2008 01:13PM

TheMeeper Wrote:
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> He was elected to the US Senate

That's really all that needed to be said.

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Re: Barack Obama: No Accomplishments
Posted by: Thanks for the laugh! ()
Date: October 30, 2008 01:16PM

TheMeeper Wrote:
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> >> Name one political accomplishment of Barrack
> Obama
>
> He was elected to the US Senate based on what he
> stood for, and not because of his family name,
> like McCain. Or Bush for that matter. There's no
> way either of those guys would be where they are
> today if it weren't for their powerful fathers and
> grandfathers. Obama didn't need nepotism and
> family political clout to get where he is today.
> McCain and Bush both did.

You really don't know shit about politics do you? He ran against Alan Keyes. That is like running against Hitler. Beating Alan Keyes is NOT an accomplishment. I could have done it, you could have done it, Ralph Nader could fucking beat Alan Keyes.

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Re: Barack Obama: No Accomplishments
Posted by: Reston ()
Date: October 30, 2008 01:20PM

That is not a political accomplishment, that is getting elected. A political accomplishment would occur after getting elected into a political office. Have a look for yourself http://obama.senate.gov/votes/ he just shows up and collects a paycheck.

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Re: Barack Obama: No Accomplishments
Posted by: Wrong ()
Date: October 30, 2008 01:23PM

Reston Wrote:
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> That is not a political accomplishment, that is
> getting elected. A political accomplishment would
> occur after getting elected into a political
> office. Have a look for yourself
> http://obama.senate.gov/votes/ he just shows up
> and collects a paycheck.

WRONG! He doesn't show up. He might have showed up for the first 143 days before he decided to run for President. Since then, he has pretty much AWOL. But, he does continue to collect his paycheck.

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Re: Barack Obama: No Accomplishments
Posted by: TheMeeper ()
Date: October 30, 2008 01:32PM

Reston Wrote:
>>> That is not a political accomplishment,


Neither is using your family's political clout and wife's family fortune to further your political career.

If McCain's father and grandfather weren't who they were, John McCain would have never had things handed to him like they have been. He would've actually had to work to achieve them. And since he only got into Annapolis based on his family credentials, this man really would have probably ended up like Joe The Plumber.

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Re: Barack Obama: No Accomplishments
Posted by: HooDay ()
Date: October 30, 2008 01:37PM

TheMeeper Wrote:
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> Reston Wrote:
> >>> That is not a political accomplishment,
>
>
> Neither is using your family's political clout and
> wife's family fortune to further your political
> career.
>
> If McCain's father and grandfather weren't who
> they were, John McCain would have never had things
> handed to him like they have been. He would've
> actually had to work to achieve them. And since
> he only got into Annapolis based on his family
> credentials, this man really would have probably
> ended up like Joe The Plumber.

You'r right. If McCain wasn't the son and grandson of an Admiral, he probably would not have been a Naval Aviator and wouldn't have had that nice 5 1/2 year vacation in Hanoi. You lose the "family" argument, because McCain actually refused to allow his influential family name to assist him in getting out of prison early. Now, do you have an answer to the original question?

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Re: Barack Obama: No Accomplishments
Posted by: TheMeeper ()
Date: October 30, 2008 02:10PM

Oh you are correct, if anyone fucked up as much as McCain did, their career as a pilot would've been over. But daddy made a few phone calls and worked things out for young John. And don't give me this Hanoi Hilton nonsense- getting captured by the enemy is not an accoplishment, in any sense of the word. It's the antithesis of accomplishment. What's even more laughable is that you somehow see his refusal to be released early as some sort of achievement. It isn't. He was doing his duty as a soldier- can you imagine the level of outrage had he walked out of there first and left others behind? Following protocol is not an accomplishment.

So to answer the orignal qestion, Obama has accomplished more than McCain or Bush. Both were complete fuckups that got the silver spoon treatment their whole lives and have predicated their entire political careers by using their family names and having things handed to them. In fact, both of their pasts are eerily similar in this sense.

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Re: Barack Obama: No Accomplishments
Posted by: Typically Dull Meeper ()
Date: October 30, 2008 02:18PM

TheMeeper Wrote:
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> Oh you are correct, if anyone fucked up as much as
> McCain did, their career as a pilot would've been
> over. But daddy made a few phone calls and worked
> things out for young John. And don't give me
> this Hanoi Hilton nonsense- getting captured by
> the enemy is not an accoplishment, in any sense of
> the word. It's the antithesis of accomplishment.
> What's even more laughable is that you somehow see
> his refusal to be released early as some sort of
> achievement. It isn't. He was doing his duty as
> a soldier- can you imagine the level of outrage
> had he walked out of there first and left others
> behind? Following protocol is not an
> accomplishment.
>
> So to answer the orignal qestion, Obama has
> accomplished more than McCain or Bush. Both were
> complete fuckups that got the silver spoon
> treatment their whole lives and have predicated
> their entire political careers by using their
> family names and having things handed to them. In
> fact, both of their pasts are eerily similar in
> this sense.

Still having trouble nailing down an "accomplishment." Typical.

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Re: Barack Obama: No Accomplishments
Posted by: MrMephisto ()
Date: October 30, 2008 02:36PM

I still don't see how it's not a political accomplishment to get elected to the US Senate. I heard somewhere that they make laws and do other stuff; I'm not really sure.

Can you provide a link to McCain's voting history, so we can see how many votes he's participated in while campaigning?

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Re: Barack Obama: No Accomplishments
Posted by: Rewind, Not Fast Forward ()
Date: October 30, 2008 02:37PM

Bush has been President for almost 8 years and still has no accomplishments. Besides, on the evening of Nov. 4th, Obama will have accomplished more than McCain ever will.

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Re: Barack Obama: No Accomplishments
Posted by: Pause ()
Date: October 30, 2008 02:40PM

Rewind, Not Fast Forward Wrote:
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> Bush has been President for almost 8 years and
> still has no accomplishments. Besides, on the
> evening of Nov. 4th, Obama will have accomplished
> more than McCain ever will.

What's that? Getting a consolation BJ from a black chick?

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Re: Barack Obama: No Accomplishments
Posted by: TheMeeper ()
Date: October 30, 2008 02:51PM

>>> Still having trouble nailing down an "accomplishment"

No, I actually explained it twice.

But, I guess I could sit here and rattle off a bunch of mundane legislative matters, because that's really all you could do for McCain, too. Except McCain's list would have that shiny McCain-Feingold Reform Act star pinned on it, the crowning jewel of his 23 year senate tenure.

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Re: Barack Obama: No Accomplishments
Posted by: dgriff ()
Date: October 30, 2008 02:54PM

I'm voting for a black Democrat that accomplished many things while he was in office: Marion Barry. Hell, he even got re-elected after the Bitch set him up!

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Re: Barack Obama: No Accomplishments
Posted by: nicetry ()
Date: October 30, 2008 03:05PM

TheMeeper Wrote:
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> >>> Still having trouble nailing down an
> "accomplishment"
>
> No, I actually explained it twice.
>
> But, I guess I could sit here and rattle off a
> bunch of mundane legislative matters, because
> that's really all you could do for McCain, too.
> Except McCain's list would have that shiny
> McCain-Feingold Reform Act star pinned on it, the
> crowning jewel of his 23 year senate tenure.

Yeah, you still got nothing. Sucks to be you.

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Re: Barack Obama: No Accomplishments
Posted by: Reston ()
Date: October 30, 2008 03:24PM

Today on my way to lunch I passed a homeless guy with a sign the read "Vote Obama, I need the money." I laughed.
Once in the restaurant my server had on a "Obama 08" tie, again I laughed--just imagine the coincidence.
When the bill came I decided not to tip the server and explained to him that I was exploring the Obama redistribution of wealth
concept. He stood there in disbelief while I told him that I was going to redistribute his tip to someone who I deemed more in
need--the homeless guy outside. The server angrily stormed from my sight.
I went outside, gave the homeless guy $10 and told him to thank the server inside as I decided he could use the money more. The homeless guy was grateful.
At the end of my rather unscientific redistribution experiment I realized the homeless guy was grateful for the money he did not
earn, but the waiter was pretty angry that I gave away the money he did earn even though the actual recipient deserved money more.
I guess redistribution of wealth is an easier thing to swallow in concept than in practical application.

OR IS IT.........REDISTRIBUTION OF SOMEONE ELSE'S WEALTH IS A GREAT IDEA..............or just a fool's political game!!

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Re: Barack Obama: No Accomplishments
Posted by: MrMephisto ()
Date: October 30, 2008 03:26PM

So, basically, you're an asshole.

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Re: Barack Obama: No Accomplishments
Posted by: Vince(1) ()
Date: October 30, 2008 03:32PM

no he's just a liar trying to make a lame point. our society would be in quite a vicious state of affairs if we didnt redistribute wealth on a regular basis. whoever recieved a high school or college education at a public institution was the recipient of a transfer of wealth...there are many more examples.

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Re: Barack Obama: No Accomplishments
Posted by: TheMeeper ()
Date: October 30, 2008 03:39PM

The fictional server in your fantasy-world would have been equally dismayed if you redistributed that money to a large multi-billion company like ExxonMobil (i.e. what Bush has done for 8 years and what McCain wants to do more of).

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Re: Barack Obama: No Accomplishments
Date: October 30, 2008 03:44PM

No accomplishments, eh? He's managed to defeat Hillary Clinton and probably John McCain in one year. Sounds like an accomplishment to me.

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Re: Barack Obama: No Accomplishments
Posted by: Jeez Louise ()
Date: October 30, 2008 03:47PM

TheMeeper Wrote:
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> The fictional server in your fantasy-world would
> have been equally dismayed if you redistributed
> that money to a large multi-billion company like
> ExxonMobil (i.e. what Bush has done for 8 years
> and what McCain wants to do more of).


How so? Oil companies pay taxes. The more profit they make, the more taxes they pay. Do you not understand this concept? Did you take your stupid pill today? Under no circumstances do the oil companies receive a greater benefit from the government than what they pay. Once again, you have been proven stupid.

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Re: Barack Obama: No Accomplishments
Posted by: Reston ()
Date: October 30, 2008 04:16PM

Oil companies pay $.43 on the dollar in taxes.

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Re: Barack Obama: No Accomplishments
Posted by: Orange Julius ()
Date: October 30, 2008 04:33PM

It's $0.04289 on the dollar.

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Re: Barack Obama: No Accomplishments
Posted by: TheMeeper ()
Date: October 30, 2008 07:39PM

Jeez Louise Wrote:
>> Oil companies pay taxes. The more profit they make, the more taxes they pay. Do you not understand this concept?

LOL, like I ever even said anything like that, jackass.



>> Under no circumstances do the oil companies receive a greater benefit from the government than what they pay.

"I cannot in good conscience support a tax cut in which so many of the benefits
go to the most fortunate among us, at the expense of middle class Americans
who most need tax relief."

- John McCain, 2001


"I voted against the tax cuts because of the disproportionate amount that
went to the wealthy Americans."

- John McCain, April 11, 2004




So McCain was a critic of the tax cuts, but he suddenly found religion a few months ago and now is a huge fan of those tax cuts.

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Re: Barack Obama: No Accomplishments
Posted by: Reston ()
Date: October 30, 2008 09:30PM

Hoover raised the tax on people making over $100,000 from 20% to 55%, this triggered "The Great Depression".

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Re: Barack Obama: No Accomplishments
Posted by: TheMeeper ()
Date: October 30, 2008 09:59PM

Reston Wrote:
>>> Hoover raised the tax on people making over $100,000 from 20% to 55%

Just face the fact that neither candidate proposes anything like that. I'm not even sure what you're saying is 100% accurate.


>> this triggered "The Great Depression".

No historian would ever claim that Hoover triggered the depression. That's an absurd notion.

Crazy right-wing fearmongering isn't going to help the GOP one bit.

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Re: Barack Obama: No Accomplishments
Posted by: Reston ()
Date: October 30, 2008 10:15PM

TheMeeper Wrote:
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> Crazy right-wing fearmongering isn't going to help
> the GOP one bit.

FYI, Herbert Hoover was a Republican.

I'm not a Republican. Neither McCain or Obama are good choices. Most voters listen to the B.S. of an inspirational and influential public speaker and make their choice. Very few voters educate themselves.................

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Re: Barack Obama: No Accomplishments
Posted by: TheMeeper ()
Date: October 30, 2008 10:20PM

Reston Wrote:
>>> I'm not a Republican. Neither McCain or Obama are good choices.

Well then go vote for Nader or I'll kick your ass, hippy

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Re: Barack Obama: No Accomplishments
Posted by: Reston ()
Date: October 30, 2008 10:24PM

TheMeeper Wrote:
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> Reston Wrote:
> >>> I'm not a Republican. Neither McCain or Obama
> are good choices.
>
> Well then go vote for Nader or I'll kick your ass,
> hippy


Hippy not! T. Boone Pickens has a brain and a plan.

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