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ONLY OBAMA CAN
Posted by: AN AMERICAN ()
Date: October 28, 2008 08:36PM

Our Country is dying day by day!
George will leave office and leave
our Country in a total mess.
George and the whole klan will
becmome richer each year. AMERICA
NEEDS NOW A FIGHTER THAT WILL FIGHT
FOR AMERICA AND UNITE US ALL.
JOIN US ON ELECTION DAY! LET'S
BECOME ONE UNITED FRONT AND HELP
THE FUTURE OF AMERICA!
GOD BLESS AMERICA!

1 AMERICAN THAT CARES ABOUT OUR FUTURE!

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Re: ONLY OBAMA CAN
Posted by: Take a Stand ()
Date: October 28, 2008 08:55PM

You know, you are not exactly helping the cause with crap like that.

Maybe if you educated yourself, you could extend ideas like Obamas tax code looks to be more beneficial to you since you make $6.95/hr. Maybe how the redistribution of wealth argument by the McCain camp makes no sense at all.

But no , instead you made some unintelligible comment that makes people look at it and think, "jeez, people like that support Obama, maybe I shouldn't."


Oh yeah and Vote for Obama

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Re: ONLY OBAMA CAN
Date: October 28, 2008 10:18PM

So what you Republicans are saying is that George W. Bush is a Socialist. After all, Bush has been "spreading the wealth around" with the same progressive tax plan Obama is proposing (or haven't you ever noticed the brackets in the tax schedule you use when preparing your taxes?). That means Obama is a socialist, George W. Bush is a socialist. Hell, Ronald Reagan was a socialist.

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Re: ONLY OBAMA CAN
Posted by: Bob ()
Date: October 29, 2008 02:26AM

Take a Stand Wrote:
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instead you made some unintelligible
> comment that makes people look at it and think,
> "jeez, people like that support Obama, maybe I
> shouldn't."
>

jeez, people like that support McCain:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8QhJJBfwJME&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aF27ru8egmA (one supporter knows that ACORN propogated low income housing to people that couldn't afford it, in the chicago area, but she only first heard about acorn "today")

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tXOLCR9FHvs&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=itEucdhf4Us&feature=related

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Re: ONLY OBAMA CAN
Posted by: Radiophile ()
Date: October 29, 2008 06:58AM

WashingToneLocian Wrote:
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> So what you Republicans are saying is that George
> W. Bush is a Socialist. After all, Bush has been
> "spreading the wealth around" with the same
> progressive tax plan Obama is proposing (or
> haven't you ever noticed the brackets in the tax
> schedule you use when preparing your taxes?). That
> means Obama is a socialist, George W. Bush is a
> socialist. Hell, Ronald Reagan was a socialist.


As Sarah Palin said, she refuses to label herself as this or that. So let us take the cue from Sarah Palin and NOT label the candidates. Let us talk about the merits and stop throwing labels around.

The American electorate is confused enough. The conservative party has called Obama a socialist, a communist, a Marxist, and a radical. The GOPers probably do not know what any of those labels means and then leaders of the parties change them. No wonder the McCain supporters are confused!

So, as Pro gun, pro life, pro death penalty, pro creationism and frankly "God's Candidate" Sarah Palin suggested - let us not use labels. If you continue to use them, we may have to label you anti God since you are going against her and God's wishes.

Thank you for your support on this matter.

Kind regards,

Radiophile.

PS - Give Alaska back to the Alaskans, Vote McCain Palin!

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Re: ONLY OBAMA CAN
Posted by: Registered Voter ()
Date: October 29, 2008 02:13PM

WashingToneLocian Wrote:
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> So what you Republicans are saying is that George
> W. Bush is a Socialist. After all, Bush has been
> "spreading the wealth around" with the same
> progressive tax plan Obama is proposing (or
> haven't you ever noticed the brackets in the tax
> schedule you use when preparing your taxes?). That
> means Obama is a socialist, George W. Bush is a
> socialist. Hell, Ronald Reagan was a socialist.

Progressive taxation does not equal socialism. You guys keep trying to make this argument, and it is still a failure.

Socialism (from Wiki so Vince will trust it):
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socialism

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Socialism refers to a broad set of economic theories of social organization advocating state or collective ownership and administration of the means of production and distribution of goods, and the creation of an egalitarian society. Modern socialism originated in the late nineteenth-century working class political movement. Karl Marx posited that socialism would be achieved via class struggle and a proletarian revolution which represents the transitional stage between capitalism and communism.

Socialists mainly share the belief that capitalism unfairly concentrates power and wealth among a small segment of society that controls capital and creates an unequal society. All socialists advocate the creation of an egalitarian society, in which wealth and power are distributed more evenly, although there is considerable disagreement among socialists over how, and to what extent this could be achieved.

Socialism is not a discrete philosophy of fixed doctrine and program; its branches advocate a degree of social interventionism and economic rationalization, sometimes opposing each other. Another dividing feature of the socialist movement is the split on how a socialist economy should be established between the reformists and the revolutionaries. Some socialists advocate complete nationalization of the means of production, distribution, and exchange; while others advocate state control of capital within the framework of a market economy. Social democrats propose selective nationalization of key national industries in mixed economies combined with tax-funded welfare programs; Libertarian socialism (which includes Socialist Anarchism and Libertarian Marxism) rejects state control and ownership of the economy altogether and advocates direct collective ownership of the means of production via co-operative workers' councils and workplace democracy.

In the 1970s and the 1980s, Yugoslavian, Hungarian, Polish and Chinese Communists instituted various forms of market socialism combining co-operative and State ownership models with the free market exchange. This is unlike the earlier theoretical market socialist proposal put forth by Oskar Lange in that it allows market forces, rather than central planners to guide production and exchange.[6] Anarcho-syndicalists, Luxemburgists (such as those in the Socialist Party USA) and some elements of the United States New Left favor decentralized collective ownership in the form of cooperatives or workers' councils.

Taxing to pay for government programs (of which there are too many, and too costly already) is not Socialism unless sit is geared toward taking wealth from some people and using that wealth to directly provide benefits to people that make less. Since the Democrats were primarily responsible for setting up most of today's social programs the Government runs, there is always going to be some form of "socialism" in place. Most times the republicans work to remove these programs - as seen under Bill Clinton when the republicans managed to get through a welfare reform bill that he signed. Obama is now proposing to raise taxes directly on those making above a certain income to pay credits to those making less - that is clearly socialism. Period. Under Bush, Congress passed tax CUTS for everyone, while ALSO increasing social (medicare senior program) and military spending. So if you want to call increasing support for Senior Citizens (not a welfare class) socialism, you have a bit of a stretch to make.

Under the current economic crisis, the administration has made it clear that their investment in banks and other institutions is temporary to enable the credit markets to begin working again. Again, you could argue some form of socialism, but since the plan is to get out once these companies are on their feet again, it seems like a far stretch to make still, unless you are trying to use that as a premise to mask the intent of the Democrats under Obama. Pelosi has made it clear she favors these kinds of programs, and Barney Frank has already indicated he has plans to raise taxes even more once Obama is in office.

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Re: ONLY OBAMA CAN
Posted by: MrMephisto ()
Date: October 29, 2008 02:25PM

Prepare for trouble!

And make it double!

To protect the world from devastation!

To unite all peoples within our nation!

To denounce the evils of truth and love!

To extend our reach to the stars above!

Obama!

Biden!

Team Democrat, blast off at the speed of light!

Surrender now, or prepare to fight!

Meowth! That's right!

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