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READ THIS before Obama starts World War III
Posted by: Native 1962 ()
Date: August 28, 2013 10:24AM

U.S. 'backed plan to launch chemical weapon attack on Syria and blame it on Assad's regime'
Mail Online ^ | 29 January 2013 | Louise Boyle

Posted on Wednesday, August 28, 2013 9:11:40 AM by Count of Monte Fisto

Leaked emails have allegedly proved that the White House gave the green light to a chemical weapons attack in Syria that could be blamed on Assad's regime and in turn, spur international military action in the devastated country.

A report released on Monday contains an email exchange between two senior officials at British-based contractor Britam Defence where a scheme 'approved by Washington' is outlined explaining that Qatar would fund rebel forces in Syria to use chemical weapons.

Barack Obama made it clear to Syrian president Bashar al-Assad last month that the U.S. would not tolerate Syria using chemical weapons against its own people.

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Re: READ THIS before Obama starts World War III
Posted by: HMMMM ()
Date: August 28, 2013 11:10AM

Where might one find these so called emails and report on such.

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Re: READ THIS before Obama starts World War III
Posted by: Batshit Crazy ()
Date: August 28, 2013 12:12PM

Crawl back under your rock, you nitwit.

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Re: READ THIS before Obama starts World War III
Posted by: Friend 2 all ()
Date: August 28, 2013 01:37PM

+1

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Re: READ THIS before Obama starts World War III
Posted by: pVTt9 ()
Date: August 28, 2013 01:44PM


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Re: READ THIS before Obama starts World War III
Posted by: ex-Lester ()
Date: August 28, 2013 02:41PM

The so-called communications chatter evidence looks weak on the surface and may even be exculpatory for Assad. The Ministry of Defense is calling the field commanders for an explanation of the gas attack. Either the WMD units acted independently of standing orders to only use them with approval from the highest officials or the attack was a false flag attack by the 'rebels'.

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Re: READ THIS before Obama starts World War III
Posted by: Cary ()
Date: August 28, 2013 03:49PM

This was a poor forgery. Someone simply changed some words on an existing email without bothering the change the (unique) X-UIDL header. A comparison of the two emails (original, and poor forgery) are available here:
http://pastebin.com/Di2Fwtuj
http://pastebin.com/QkWVJuDC

Pasting an analysis by reddit user 'kahirsch' below:

The "incriminating" email was copied from another email in the archive. All the headers in the two emails were identical except that the subject was changed from "Iranian issue" to "Syrian issue" and all the dates were changed from "Thu, 16 Oct 2012" to "Mon, 24 Dec 2012". Each time of day was identical, which is suspicious enough. But, more importantly, the X-UIDL, Message-ID, Thread-Index, and even the MIME boundary value were identical between the two messages. All of those should be unique. This is not a close call. It was an amateurish forgery.

Headers from "Iranian Issue":

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Headers from "Syrian issue":

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Re: READ THIS before Obama starts World War III
Posted by: Three Cheers ()
Date: August 28, 2013 05:58PM

Winner of the Noble Peace Prize is hard at work planning to attack a sovereign nation that poses no threat to the U S.

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Re: READ THIS before Obama starts World War III
Posted by: wrongg ()
Date: August 28, 2013 06:50PM

Where is Gerry?

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Re: READ THIS before Obama starts World War III
Posted by: 779DH ()
Date: August 28, 2013 07:36PM

Three Cheers Wrote:
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> Winner of the Noble Peace Prize is hard at work
> planning to attack a sovereign nation that poses
> no threat to the U S.


iraq posed no threat
vietnam, serbia, korea, afghanistan, also, posed no threat

so what are you trying to fucking say?

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Re: READ THIS before Obama starts World War III
Posted by: world war 3 is here ()
Date: August 29, 2013 03:38PM

it's hereeeeeeeeeeee

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Re: READ THIS before Obama starts World War III
Date: August 29, 2013 04:59PM

I'm not an Obama fan in the least, but the OP is delusional in this matter.

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Re: READ THIS before Obama starts World War III
Posted by: Native 1962 ()
Date: September 03, 2013 02:18PM

Mike Omeara Pensacola Wrote:
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> I'm not an Obama fan in the least, but the OP is
> delusional in this matter.


O.K. I’m supposed to believe the lying ass clown who said a dozen times our fellow Americans were killed over a video. You truly are the delusional one. Obama called me and about 50 million Americans the enemy during the last senate and congressional election or did you forget that? You are one of the many SHEEPEOPLE.

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Re: READ THIS before Obama starts World War III
Posted by: Obama Derangement Syndrome ()
Date: September 03, 2013 02:27PM

Native 1962 Wrote:
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> Mike Omeara Pensacola Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > I'm not an Obama fan in the least, but the OP
> is
> > delusional in this matter.
>
>
> O.K. I’m supposed to believe the lying ass clown
> who said a dozen times our fellow Americans were
> killed over a video. You truly are the delusional
> one. Obama called me and about 50 million
> Americans the enemy during the last senate and
> congressional election or did you forget that? You
> are one of the many SHEEPEOPLE.

And there you have it, folks.

Blinding, seething hatred of our beloved, dear leader, President Obama, eclipses all reason. Poor, demented fellow (or lady, or ladyboy).

So very sad.


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Re: READ THIS before Obama starts World War III
Posted by: Barryland ()
Date: September 03, 2013 03:19PM

779DH Wrote:
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> Three Cheers Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Winner of the Noble Peace Prize is hard at work
> > planning to attack a sovereign nation that
> poses
> > no threat to the U S.
>
>
> iraq posed no threat
> vietnam, serbia, korea, afghanistan, also, posed
> no threat
>
> so what are you trying to fucking say?

Trying to say when it is your hero obama doing the invasion then its cool right? Given the four nations you cited I suppose you are defending obama by saying others made stupid mistakes so he is entitled to his own.

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Re: READ THIS before Obama starts World War III
Posted by: Obama Derangement Syndrome ()
Date: September 03, 2013 03:27PM

Barryland Wrote:
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> Trying to say when it is your hero obama doing the
> invasion then its cool right?

Whoa there, Sparky! No one has said anything about any invasion. We're just gonna lob a couplafew bombs & missles at Assad. Maybe hunt his punk ass down w/a drone or three.

Invading the enemy is so Bush administration.

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Re: READ THIS before Obama starts World War III
Posted by: mighty mite ()
Date: September 03, 2013 03:30PM

:)
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Re: READ THIS before Obama starts World War III
Posted by: NOPE YOU DOPE ()
Date: September 03, 2013 06:34PM

Ha!
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Re: READ THIS before Obama starts World War III
Posted by: eesh ()
Date: September 03, 2013 06:44PM

Obama is the second coming of Jesus, if you speak against him, you speak against the Messiah.

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Re: READ THIS before Obama starts World War III
Posted by: read and learn ()
Date: September 03, 2013 06:49PM

Obama Derangement Syndrome Wrote:
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> Barryland Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Trying to say when it is your hero obama doing
> the
> > invasion then its cool right?
>
> Whoa there, Sparky! No one has said anything
> about any invasion. We're just gonna lob a
> couplafew bombs & missles at Assad. Maybe hunt
> his punk ass down w/a drone or three.
>
> Invading the enemy is so Bush administration.

You go dropping bombs on another country yeah I call that an invasion.

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Re: READ THIS before Obama starts World War III
Posted by: LCtdW ()
Date: September 03, 2013 07:41PM

So if we drop bombs on Syria, are they allowed to retaliate? No one has given us permission to drop bombs on Syria. If the police use tear gas on our citizens (say some the 99%'ers occupying Wall Street) should Syria be allowed to bomb us? Tear gas is a banned chemical weapon according to the Geneva Protocol of which we are a signee.

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Re: READ THIS before Obama starts World War III
Posted by: he aint learnt yet ()
Date: September 03, 2013 08:31PM

read and learn Wrote:
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> You go dropping bombs on another country yeah I
> call that an invasion.


in·va·sion (n-vzhn)
n.
1. The act of invading, especially the entrance of an armed force into a territory to conquer.
2. A large-scale onset of something injurious or harmful, such as a disease.
3. An intrusion or encroachment

"Read and what?"

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Re: READ THIS before Obama starts World War III
Posted by: Native 1962 ()
Date: September 03, 2013 08:44PM

Nice shirt looks like a ladies size small shuould fit you well. How do you like my photo duche. Yea this is the new Hitler dining with Kerry for the fifth time in two years. Now Kerry wants his head on a plate. Why are you so stupid?
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Re: READ THIS before Obama starts World War III
Posted by: Obama Derangement Syndrome ()
Date: September 03, 2013 09:45PM

Native 1962 Wrote:
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> How do you like my photo duche. Yea
> this is the new Hitler dining with Kerry for the
> fifth time in two years. Now Kerry wants his head
> on a plate. Why are you so stupid?

A diplomat (Kerry) practicing diplomacy? Say it ain't so.

Do you ever tire of being a tool?

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Re: READ THIS before Obama starts World War III
Posted by: Hillary liked him too ()
Date: September 03, 2013 09:52PM

Obama Derangement Syndrome Wrote:
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> Native 1962 Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > How do you like my photo duche. Yea
> > this is the new Hitler dining with Kerry for
> the
> > fifth time in two years. Now Kerry wants his
> head
> > on a plate. Why are you so stupid?
>
> A diplomat (Kerry) practicing diplomacy? Say it
> ain't so.
>
> Do you ever tire of being a tool?


You mean the same diplomatic John Kerry arguing that we need to bomb the fuck out of them today? lol

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Re: READ THIS before Obama starts World War III
Posted by: Bill.N. ()
Date: September 03, 2013 10:27PM

Native 1962 Wrote:
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> Nice shirt looks like a ladies size small shuould
> fit you well. How do you like my photo duche. Yea
> this is the new Hitler dining with Kerry for the
> fifth time in two years. Now Kerry wants his head
> on a plate. Why are you so stupid?

I seem to recall both Reagan and GHW Bush were cool with Saddam Hussein when he was taking on the Iranians.

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Re: READ THIS before Obama starts World War III
Posted by: Perspectives ()
Date: September 03, 2013 10:33PM

read and learn Wrote:
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> Obama Derangement Syndrome Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Barryland Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Trying to say when it is your hero obama
> doing
> > the
> > > invasion then its cool right?
> >
> > Whoa there, Sparky! No one has said anything
> > about any invasion. We're just gonna lob a
> > couplafew bombs & missles at Assad. Maybe hunt
> > his punk ass down w/a drone or three.
> >
> > Invading the enemy is so Bush administration.
>
> You go dropping bombs on another country yeah I
> call that an invasion.


What would we call it if somebody shot 200 cruise missiles into our country?

Doubtful we'd view it as a 'limited, narrow act.'

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Re: READ THIS before Obama starts World War III
Posted by: This Can't Be True ()
Date: September 04, 2013 12:01AM

I don't think Obama has ever told a lie. LOL! stated to me that Obama is the most honest president ever in history. Then again, we have to remember that is LOL! speaking.


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Re: READ THIS before Obama starts World War III
Posted by: Obama Derangement Syndrome ()
Date: September 04, 2013 08:06AM

Perspectives Wrote:
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> What would we call it if somebody shot 200 cruise
> missiles into our country?

A missile attack.

> Doubtful we'd view it as a 'limited, narrow act.'

No, but we'd certainly not view a missile attack as an 'invasion'.

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Re: READ THIS before Obama starts World War III
Posted by: Baby Warbucks ()
Date: September 04, 2013 10:16AM

Obama Derangement Syndrome Wrote:
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> Perspectives Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > What would we call it if somebody shot 200
> cruise
> > missiles into our country?
>
> A missile attack.
>
> > Doubtful we'd view it as a 'limited, narrow
> act.'
>
> No, but we'd certainly not view a missile attack
> as an 'invasion'.


How about when they send in troops after to make sure that our WMDs are secured?

You can try to play word games all you want as politicians,diplomats and followers are inclined to do in order to justify war, but in the end it doesn't really matter what you call it and that doesn't change what it is.

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Re: READ THIS before Obama starts World War III
Posted by: ex-Lester ()
Date: September 04, 2013 10:54AM

The US has been at war with Syria, probably 2 o3 3 years now. Le Figaro is reporting that a 300-strong CIA-trained guerrlia had just been sent into Ghouta at the time of the disputed gas attack. Were they the target of the attack or were they involved in staging it? It is strange that there are no reported casualties among the rebels despite the claim this was a rebel-held area.

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Re: READ THIS before Obama starts World War III
Posted by: ex-Lester ()
Date: September 04, 2013 01:43PM

The shells may have been those used by the rebels. Russian expert says shells were makeshift devices (IEDs).

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Re: READ THIS before Obama starts World War III
Posted by: Vexxxed ()
Date: September 04, 2013 09:35PM

ex-Lester Wrote:
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> The shells may have been those used by the rebels.
> Russian expert says shells were makeshift devices
> (IEDs).


http://www.globalresearch.ca/jabhat-al-nusra-rebels-admit-responsibility-for-chemical-weapons-attack/5347485

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Re: READ THIS before Obama starts World War III
Posted by: Gerrymanderer2 ()
Date: September 04, 2013 09:57PM

Gerrymanderer will make one statement and one statement only on this alleged conspiracy theory. I don't begrudge conspiracy theory because conspiracies occur.

Why the fuck would a president gas over a thousand people as a false flag with the power to initiate a conflict and turn to congress for approval? For what reason would he send the issue to congress. What if congress says no? What if a congressional investigation reveals his motives?

It's fucking stupid, it doesn't make any sense and there's no evidence.

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Re: READ THIS before Obama starts World War III
Posted by: Gerrymanderer2 ()
Date: September 04, 2013 10:00PM

Two emails between a British based contractor? Really, two idiots at some no name contractor in Britain said something in an email? This is the source. I will no longer be commenting until further solid evidence is present. What a dumb topic right now.

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Re: READ THIS before Obama starts World War III
Posted by: wPmPH ()
Date: September 04, 2013 10:14PM

Gerrymanderer2 Wrote:
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> Gerrymanderer will make one statement and one
> statement only on this alleged conspiracy theory.
> I don't begrudge conspiracy theory because
> conspiracies occur.
>
> Why the fuck would a president gas over a thousand
> people as a false flag with the power to initiate
> a conflict and turn to congress for approval? For
> what reason would he send the issue to congress.
> What if congress says no? What if a congressional
> investigation reveals his motives?
>
> It's fucking stupid, it doesn't make any sense and
> there's no evidence.


He wouldn't. But the rebels working with people on the inside of the Syrian army might.

I don't really buy into the conspiracy stuff but I will agree that this does seem almost too easy. And the push to do something on the part of the US seems kind of odd given past behavior.

There isn't much that happens in that area of the world which gets out to media which isn't very well scripted one way or another.

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Re: READ THIS before Obama starts World War III
Posted by: native 1960 ()
Date: September 11, 2013 09:37PM

Russia’s ‘carrier-killer’ Moskva enters Mediterranean Russia’s Moskva missile cruiser, dubbed a “carrier-killer” by NATO, has passed through the Straits of Gibraltar and is now heading toward the eastern Mediterranean to assume command of the Russian naval force there. OP was right.
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Re: READ THIS before Obama starts World War III
Posted by: ex-Lester ()
Date: September 11, 2013 10:42PM

Independent investigative group Human Rights Watch found that 54 rebel fighters were among those killed in the chemical weapon attack. It appears that one or more Syrian units disobeyed orders and fired the chemical rockets.

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Re: READ THIS before Obama starts World War III
Posted by: native 1960 ()
Date: September 13, 2013 10:15AM

Oliar was about to start WWIII. Now the ass clown will settle for Asaid's chemical weapons. Well ass clown doesn’t know that will take seven years and a few thousand men on the ground to accomplish. Putan has played Oliar for a fool (easy). Putin does not like bi sexual deviants like Oliar. This is what you get when your president is a sperm burper.

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Re: READ THIS before Obama starts World War III
Posted by: native 1960 ()
Date: September 17, 2013 10:56AM

The real truth is OBAMA is a PUSSY. It's a fact some men are pussies and Obama is one. 134 days as a US senator and you fools voted him for president. He then fixes the next election using IRS. You don't know obama you really don't.....You have f_cked America for life.

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Re: READ THIS before Obama starts World War III
Posted by: ex-Lester ()
Date: September 17, 2013 11:26AM

He's probably going to try to pull a Bush. He's going to use the chemical weapons inspection agreement at a later time to set up a 'crisis' where US military action is sanctioned. That's the only thing he's missing right now. He has no legal proceeding from Congress or the UN that he can bend or distort to somehow justify a hot war like Bush did with Iraq.

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