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Why are Republikans Anti-Science?
Posted by: Vince(1) ()
Date: October 24, 2008 09:40PM

During her first policy speech Sara riducled valuable fruit fly research...she is apparently unaware that scientific research with fruit flies has led to valuable discoveries that have boosted autism research

http://thinkprogress.org/2008/10/24/palin-fruit-flies/

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Re: Why are Republikans Anti-Science?
Posted by: fruit fly ()
Date: October 24, 2008 10:04PM

Vince, the heck with the flies. You're just a fruit.

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Re: Why are Republikans Anti-Science?
Posted by: Vince(1) ()
Date: October 24, 2008 10:07PM

no..Im afraid it's more then that! The only people denying global warming is man made are republicans...in addition they routinely imbeded politics into the scientific process. Never mind the religious based beliefs regarding creationism held by mainly republikans...

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Re: Why are Republikans Anti-Science?
Date: October 25, 2008 12:17AM

She is an idiot. Anybody who has had Biology 101 in college knows that fruit flies are used for genetic research because their reproduction rate and life-spans allow scientists to follow mutations in a timely manner. It is dumbfounding that Sarah Palin is promoting funding research for children with special needs while at the same time advocating cutting funding that would help research for children with special needs.

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Re: Why are Republikans Anti-Science?
Posted by: Vince(1) ()
Date: October 25, 2008 07:43AM

Im afraid it's bigger then just Sarah..it's a general theme within the republikan party...dont bother us with the facts based on "science" unless it agrees with our political agenda! Speeches like Sarah gave are designed to hit a chord within the republikan party.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 10/25/2008 08:51PM by Vince(1).

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Re: Why are Republikans Anti-Science?
Date: October 25, 2008 09:47AM

If Republicans had their way, Stephen Hawking would be locked away like Galileo.

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Re: Why are Republikans Anti-Science?
Posted by: Radiophile ()
Date: October 25, 2008 04:33PM



John Mccain does. So he picked a running mate who is still on the fence about it.

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Re: Why are Republikans Anti-Science?
Posted by: Vince(1) ()
Date: October 25, 2008 09:00PM

If I counted correctly 3 out of 10 the brightest and best of the republikan party doesnt believe in evolution! Imagine what percentage it is of the "common" republikan party member! Its like dealing with the Arabs we so high handedly call ignorant...living in the 16th century! Absolutely horrifying!



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 10/26/2008 09:38AM by Vince(1).

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Re: Why are Republikans Anti-Science?
Posted by: MrMephisto ()
Date: October 26, 2008 02:22AM

If God and Jesus meant for us to have science, they would have created it 3,000 years ago. You are a goddamned pinko commie and you will burn in hell with the rest of your pinko commie friends.

Or something like that. I'm a republikan. I don't know any better.

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Re: Why are Republikans Anti-Science?
Posted by: Alias ()
Date: October 26, 2008 04:29AM

f u



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 02/15/2012 02:03PM by Alias.

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Re: Why are Republikans Anti-Science?
Posted by: Bob ()
Date: October 26, 2008 04:38AM

Alias Wrote:
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> Vince wrote:
>
> If I counted correctly that 3 out of 10 the
> brightest and best of the republikan party that
> doesnt believe in evolution!
> ________________________
>
> On the eight day, God said, "I think I made the
> demokrats too stupid. My bad"


On the eight day, God said, "I think I made the demokrats too stupid, and alias bad at spelling. My bad"

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Re: Why are Republikans Anti-Science?
Posted by: Alias ()
Date: October 26, 2008 05:33AM

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Re: Why are Republikans Anti-Science?
Posted by: Bob ()
Date: October 26, 2008 05:39AM

Alias Wrote:
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> On the ninth day, God said, "With or without the
> 'h', demokrates are still stupid and maybe so is
> Bob."


what did he say about adding an 'e' to demo'k'rats? does that make you the chosen one?

Did you just wake up from your drunken stupor?

Look, you are fun to spar with, because none of your comments make any sense, but they also don't lead anywhere.

Just give it up. I'm not even sure you know what you're talking about.

No, wait. I'm sure you don't know what you're talking about.

Have a good morning. I'm going to bed as soon as I get this last MySQL server rebuilt that has kept me up all night.

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Re: Why are Republikans Anti-Science?
Posted by: Alias ()
Date: October 26, 2008 03:53PM

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Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 02/15/2012 02:01PM by Alias.

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Re: Why are Republikans Anti-Science?
Posted by: Registered Voter ()
Date: October 27, 2008 01:18PM

Did anyone actually look at the article Vince linked to? It is such a stupid comparison. She said this,

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...
sometimes these dollars go to projects that have little or nothing to do with the public good. Things like fruit fly research in Paris, France
...

They then go on about research at North Carolina that made major breakthroughs.

That is great - why the hell are we earmarking money for research in Paris, France? The French don't have their own money for this?

Get it? The logic here is amazing. I am not saying she is a rocket scientist, but at least if you are going to criticize her, do it for things that actually make sense. This was a stretch, and all of you posting in agreement with it are about as dumb as you say she is if you can't use your brain and actually figure out what was being said. The fact that Vince posted it first should have told you up front that it was suspect.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 10/27/2008 01:18PM by Registered Voter.

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Re: Why are Republikans Anti-Science?
Posted by: Vince(1) ()
Date: October 27, 2008 10:13PM

soooo...fruit fly research in France is stupid..but fruit fly research in the US is ok? I would assume that the research was conducted in France...because they were the best qualified to do that research. You republikans have a difficult concept with seperating science from politics dont you? Her point wasn't anti-french (which is pretty stupid anyway)..it was anti-science



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Re: Why are Republikans Anti-Science?
Posted by: Radiophile ()
Date: October 27, 2008 11:01PM

Vince(1) Wrote:
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> soooo...fruit fly research in France is
> stupid..but fruit fly research in the US is ok? I
> would assume that the research was conducted in
> France...because they were the best qualified to
> do that research. You republikans have a
> difficult concept with seperating science from
> politics dont you? Her point wasn't anti-french
> (which is pretty stupid anyway)..it was
> anti-science

Actually, the comment was both anti science and anti French.

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Re: Why are Republikans Anti-Science?
Posted by: Vince(1) ()
Date: October 28, 2008 08:57AM

god bless the french..one of the few countries in europe who maintained their soverignty after WW II.

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Re: Why are Republikans Anti-Science?
Posted by: MrMephisto ()
Date: October 28, 2008 10:23AM

Vince(1) Wrote:
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> god bless the french..one of the few countries in
> europe who maintained their soverignty after WW
> II.

... after surrendering it to ze Germans and getting it back from America.

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Re: Why are Republikans Anti-Science?
Posted by: Vince(1) ()
Date: October 28, 2008 10:31AM

and your point is they should have shed their german masters for amerikan masters?

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Re: Why are Republikans Anti-Science?
Posted by: Alias the Snot Bubbler ()
Date: October 28, 2008 10:42AM

Alias Wrote:
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> Bob,
>
> "On the eight day, God said, "I think I made the
> demokrats too stupid."
>
> The 'h' was missing from eighth, Bob. The ‘k’ was
> in honor of Vince, Bob. The ‘e’ was then added,
> after the fact, just for you, Bob. That's all it
> was, Bob, but I'll be sure to watch my p's and
> q's around you, Bob.
>
> WAKE UP, BOB.

Don't worry, Bob. It's just Alias and another one of his defeatist rants. Folks, this is what you get when you support a party that fails time and time again.

Have fun on Nov. 4th and don't forget to bring extra tissues with you. I recommend the ones with aloe because you certainly don't want to break out in a sniffle rash.

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Re: Why are Republikans Anti-Science?
Posted by: Registered Voter ()
Date: October 28, 2008 11:18AM

Vince(1) Wrote:
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> soooo...fruit fly research in France is
> stupid..but fruit fly research in the US is ok? I
> would assume that the research was conducted in
> France...because they were the best qualified to
> do that research. You republikans have a
> difficult concept with seperating science from
> politics dont you? Her point wasn't anti-french
> (which is pretty stupid anyway)..it was
> anti-science

No Vince, as usual you miss the point. Why are US voters paying earmarks to the French to conduct fruit fly research. France pays their own socialist taxes, they can do their own research. If you love France so much, then feel free to go over and support them with your money. Oh right, they have very strict immigration and citizenship laws don't they - so you would still be shit out of luck.

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Re: Why are Republikans Anti-Science?
Posted by: Registered Voter ()
Date: October 28, 2008 11:19AM

MrMephisto Wrote:
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> Vince(1) Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > god bless the french..one of the few countries
> in
> > europe who maintained their soverignty after WW
> > II.
>
> ... after surrendering it to ze Germans and
> getting it back from America.

"French rifle for sale, never used, only dropped once"

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Re: Why are Republikans Anti-Science?
Posted by: MrMephisto ()
Date: October 28, 2008 11:59AM

Vince(1) Wrote:
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> and your point is they should have shed their
> german masters for amerikan masters?

*snicker*

Nah, you're right, Vince. They were much better off under the Nazis instead of us evil amerikkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkans.

We probably should have told Japan we were sorry about that whole Pearl Harbor thing, too. I mean, we totally had it coming, being the imperialistic pigs that we amerikkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkans are.

I've made up my mind. I WAS going to vote for Obama, but now I'm going to vote for McCain out of spite. I hope that his first day in office is spent outlawing abortion, issuing free hand guns, banning scientific research of any kind, and killing newborn babies. I hope he justifies it by saying that it's what Jesus wants him to do. Then, I hope he has a heart attack three days later, and Palin becomes president. God willing, she'll get an amendment added to the constitution that lets the president stay in office indefinitely, and we have 30 glorious years of holy war and tax breaks for the wealthy.

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Re: Why are Republikans Anti-Science?
Posted by: Registered Voter ()
Date: October 28, 2008 12:02PM

Oh lord MM, now you've done it.

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Re: Why are Republikans Anti-Science?
Posted by: MrMephisto ()
Date: October 28, 2008 12:09PM

Registered Voter Wrote:
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> Oh lord MM, now you've done it.

If Palin becomes president, I will start a grassroots campaign to get you appointed as the new VP.

I will also lobby to have all members of the House and Senate replaced with clones of Strom Thurmand, Sean Hannity, Rush Limbaugh, and Ann Coulter. This will be the only time that human cloning is not only ethical, but morally justified and necessary.

I get a boner just thinking about how awesome that would be.

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Re: Why are Republikans Anti-Science?
Posted by: Fact machine ()
Date: October 28, 2008 02:25PM

Actually, you are all missing the point. The fruit fly research in France had NOTHING, ZERO, ZILCH to do with medical research. The comparison is absurd. The appropriation earmark in question was done at the request of one single industry located in CA. The research does absolutely nothing to improve the lives of most Americans. It has everything to do with catering to the interests of CA olive farmers. If the olive farmers wanted the research done, they should have paid for it themselves. Good job at once again being intellectually dishonest.

I will give the Democrats credit though, they have successfully waged a war on this Administration and Republicans over science. The unfounded and misrepresented attacks by the left have been taken at face value and reported as truths. The fact is that this Administration has spendt more on S&T R&D than any previous administration (even if you take out DoD). If you look at the basic research field, this administration has doubled funding for it.

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Re: Why are Republikans Anti-Science?
Posted by: Vince(1) ()
Date: October 28, 2008 06:07PM

MrMephisto Wrote:
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> Vince(1) Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > and your point is they should have shed their
> > german masters for amerikan masters?
>
> *snicker*
>
> Nah, you're right, Vince. They were much better
> off under the Nazis instead of us evil
> amerikkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk
> kkkkkkkkkkkkkkans.
>
> We probably should have told Japan we were sorry
> about that whole Pearl Harbor thing, too. I mean,
> we totally had it coming, being the imperialistic
> pigs that we
> amerikkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk
> kkkkkkkkkans are.
>
> I've made up my mind. I WAS going to vote for
> Obama, but now I'm going to vote for McCain out of
> spite. I hope that his first day in office is
> spent outlawing abortion, issuing free hand guns,
> banning scientific research of any kind, and
> killing newborn babies. I hope he justifies it by
> saying that it's what Jesus wants him to do.
> Then, I hope he has a heart attack three days
> later, and Palin becomes president. God willing,
> she'll get an amendment added to the constitution
> that lets the president stay in office
> indefinitely, and we have 30 glorious years of
> holy war and tax breaks for the wealthy.


Did I say that? I dont think so! But I do respect them for not bending to the almighty dollar and kicking our ass out of france..and actually maintaining an independent foreign policy.

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Re: Why are Republikans Anti-Science?
Posted by: MrMephisto ()
Date: October 28, 2008 06:17PM

I... it... what?

Nevermind. You just did 3d6 damage to my Intelligence score. I yield, lest the damage become permanent.

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Re: Why are Republikans Anti-Science?
Posted by: Vince(1) ()
Date: October 28, 2008 06:19PM

Fact machine Wrote:
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> Actually, you are all missing the point. The
> fruit fly research in France had NOTHING, ZERO,
> ZILCH to do with medical research. The comparison
> is absurd. The appropriation earmark in question
> was done at the request of one single industry
> located in CA. The research does absolutely
> nothing to improve the lives of most Americans.
> It has everything to do with catering to the
> interests of CA olive farmers. If the olive
> farmers wanted the research done, they should have
> paid for it themselves. Good job at once again
> being intellectually dishonest.
>
> I will give the Democrats credit though, they have
> successfully waged a war on this Administration
> and Republicans over science. The unfounded and
> misrepresented attacks by the left have been taken
> at face value and reported as truths. The fact is
> that this Administration has spendt more on S&T
> R&D than any previous administration (even if you
> take out DoD). If you look at the basic research
> field, this administration has doubled funding for
> it.

OMg...I think you may have done more research on the subject then she did! Congratulations! Now maybe that earmark for olive farmers was wasted..maybe not...maybe it didnt apply to the public in general....maybe it did. Farmers in general arean important constituency in this country..and focusing a little money on those who feed us to solve a problem they deem important is worth serious consideration...at least as much consideration as the earmark for bridges to no where that Palin supported before she didnt...and then she took the money anyway!

I'll take your word on Bush Adm funding....I wish throwing money on any topic was sufficient to say they supported it...but the facts are contrary to that. Here's a couple of examples

http://oversight.house.gov/features/politics_and_science/index.htm

http://www.csicop.org/doubtandabout/sciencewars/

http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/02/19/scientists.bush.ap/

But of course this all part of the left wing plot to make republikans look stupid.

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Re: Why are Republikans Anti-Science?
Posted by: formerhick76 ()
Date: October 29, 2008 11:19AM

And all earmarks add up to about three months' worth of Iraq War spending.

As for evolution, I honestly don't care. I don't understand why Christians are up in arms about it -- why get so fussy about the exact mechanism by which God placed things?

Is teaching evolution truly cause for the world's decline when there are those hungry, cold, and hurting?

God's pretty awesome. He could have created the world in 7 days some 6,000 years ago and put dinosaur bones in there, or He could have created laws and processes which came together in the way that they have. I don't claim a monopoly on Scriptural interpretation, as greater minds than my own have debated these things for millennia. I'd like to think that God is forgiving of minor differences in that arena, provided we love God and love our neighbors as we love ourselves.

Frankly, I don't know the answer, but the evidence I possess now indicates the latter (that God created laws and processes which took billions of years to fall into place in the manner they have.)

Further evidence may continue to support current theories, support young-earth creationism, or support some theory of which we are all unaware.

All I know is that God guided this.

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