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Stay Classy, Dan Rather
Posted by: melon head ()
Date: March 09, 2010 12:04AM


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Re: Stay Classy, Dan Rather
Posted by: Well..... ()
Date: March 09, 2010 01:55AM

Better than, "he couldn't sell buckets of fried chicken to a negro."

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Re: Stay Classy, Dan Rather
Posted by: conVince ()
Date: March 09, 2010 07:17AM

It is funny how Fox News is blasted for being a teabagger racist platform, but MSNBC lets thing like what Rather said, more racist than anything ever broadcast on Fox News, slide free.

I have always said the most racist people in America are white demokrats. They are as racist as any other white people (especially of that generation) but they trick black America into siding with them. Then you get guys like Jeremiah White on board and they just hate EVERYONE. The demokrats are a party of extreme hate. Clips like that show the true colors of the white racist demokrats and they have no shame in showing it. They are saying to Republicans "hey look, we can say racist shit and totally get away with it. And if you say anything on Fox News that we can twist out of context to argue it is racist we will call you out on it and send Sharpton to beat on you."

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Re: Stay Classy, Dan Rather
Posted by: more over ()
Date: March 09, 2010 07:31AM

conVince Wrote:
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> It is funny how Fox News is blasted for being a
> teabagger racist platform, but MSNBC lets thing
> like what Rather said, more racist than anything
> ever broadcast on Fox News, slide free.
>
> I have always said the most racist people in
> America are white demokrats. They are as racist
> as any other white people (especially of that
> generation) but they trick black America into
> siding with them. Then you get guys like Jeremiah
> White on board and they just hate EVERYONE. The
> demokrats are a party of extreme hate. Clips like
> that show the true colors of the white racist
> demokrats and they have no shame in showing it.
> They are saying to Republicans "hey look, we can
> say racist shit and totally get away with it. And
> if you say anything on Fox News that we can twist
> out of context to argue it is racist we will call
> you out on it and send Sharpton to beat on you."

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Re: Stay Classy, Dan Rather
Posted by: Bobby Byrd ()
Date: March 09, 2010 08:58AM

I've always been fond of Dan Rather.

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Robert C. Byrd Pictures, Images and Photos

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Re: Stay Classy, Dan Rather
Posted by: melon head ()
Date: March 09, 2010 09:03AM

Bobby Byrd Wrote:
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> I've always been fond of Dan Rather.
>
> .
>


Unfortunately, you don't know what he looks like.

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Re: Stay Classy, Dan Rather
Posted by: Elle Diabla ()
Date: March 09, 2010 09:13AM

^^ ahahahaha ^^

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Re: Stay Classy, Dan Rather
Posted by: Bobby Byrd ()
Date: March 09, 2010 09:14AM

melon head Wrote:
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> Bobby Byrd Wrote:
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> > I've always been fond of Dan Rather.
> >
> > .
> >
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>
> Unfortunately, you don't know what he looks like.

WHOA. the term "incredibly stupid" doesn't even begin to describe you. Try googling Robert Byrd and get back to us.

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Re: Stay Classy, Dan Rather
Posted by: melon head ()
Date: March 09, 2010 09:16AM

Bobby Byrd Wrote:
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> melon head Wrote:
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> > Bobby Byrd Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
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> > -----
> > > I've always been fond of Dan Rather.
> > >
> > > .
> > >
> >
> >
> > Unfortunately, you don't know what he looks
> like.
>
> WHOA. the term "incredibly stupid" doesn't even
> begin to describe you. Try googling Robert Byrd
> and get back to us.


So why did you write "Dan Rather" noodle nuts? I prefer "stupidity with extreme prejudice" to describe people like you.

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Re: Stay Classy, Dan Rather
Posted by: Elle Diabla ()
Date: March 09, 2010 09:16AM

Hey, you posted a pic of Byrd man after you mentioned Rather,

Blah

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Re: Stay Classy, Dan Rather
Posted by: pgens ()
Date: March 09, 2010 09:26AM

The joke was he was quoting Byrd as liking Dan Rather. Try to get jokes. And for numbnuts ConVince it is Reverend "Wright", not "Wight." Unless that was a joke too and I need to try harder to understand jokes.



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Re: Stay Classy, Dan Rather
Posted by: melon head ()
Date: March 09, 2010 09:27AM

pgens Wrote:
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> The joke was he was quoting Byrd as liking Dan
> Rather. Try to get jokes.


Jokes are always great when the delivery is confusing.

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Re: Stay Classy, Dan Rather
Posted by: pgens ()
Date: March 09, 2010 09:29AM

Sigh. The anon poster claimed to be Byrd, look at the "from"... does that make it easier? And no I didn't post it, I would have photoshopped the quote.

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Re: Stay Classy, Dan Rather
Date: March 09, 2010 09:32AM

That's what Dan Rather gets for trying to be "folksy." Time for the old dude to hang it up.

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Re: Stay Classy, Dan Rather
Posted by: melon head ()
Date: March 09, 2010 09:36AM

pgens Wrote:
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> Sigh. The anon poster claimed to be Byrd, look at
> the "from"... does that make it easier? And no I
> didn't post it, I would have photoshopped the
> quote.


Yes, it makes sense after your explanation. Perhaps you two can work at it as a team. He delivers, you describe.

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Re: Stay Classy, Dan Rather
Posted by: Chris Matthews ()
Date: March 09, 2010 09:51AM

I love to accuse others of racism when it helps my agenda, but if one of my cronies says something stupid, I let it slide. I'm an old pussy with white guilt and thats how I roll, dig?

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Re: Stay Classy, Dan Rather
Date: March 09, 2010 10:24AM

Chris Matthews Wrote:
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> I love to accuse others of racism when it helps my
> agenda, but if one of my cronies says something
> stupid, I let it slide. I'm an old pussy with
> white guilt and thats how I roll, dig?


Didn't Matthews say something borderline racist not too long ago?

Oh, yeah....

http://www.clevelandleader.com/node/12849


Actually, I don't know if I would call it "white guilt" as much as stupidity.

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Re: Stay Classy, Dan Rather
Posted by: Elle Diabla ()
Date: March 09, 2010 10:48AM

pgens Wrote:
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> Sigh. The anon poster claimed to be Byrd, look at
> the "from"... does that make it easier? And no I
> didn't post it, I would have photoshopped the
> quote.


Yea, thanks.
Got it now. :/

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Re: Stay Classy, Dan Rather
Posted by: pgens ()
Date: March 09, 2010 10:56AM

Chris Matthews Wrote:
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> I love to accuse others of racism when it helps my
> agenda, but if one of my cronies says something
> stupid, I let it slide. I'm an old pussy with
> white guilt and thats how I roll, dig?


lol, when I read that in my head it was in the voice of Chris Matthews.

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Re: Stay Classy, Dan Rather
Posted by: Johnny Walker ()
Date: March 09, 2010 11:02AM

The Byrd exchange has just made my morning. Hahahaha!

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Re: Stay Classy, Dan Rather
Posted by: Elle Diabla ()
Date: March 09, 2010 11:21AM

I'm laughing at myself, too!

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Re: Stay Classy, Dan Rather
Posted by: pgens, happy now? ()
Date: March 12, 2010 02:51PM

pgens Wrote:
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> Sigh. The anon poster claimed to be Byrd, look at
> the "from"... does that make it easier? And no I
> didn't post it, I would have photoshopped the
> quote.

All better now?

I LOVE Dan Rather!
moar funny pictures

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Re: Stay Classy, Dan Rather
Posted by: pgens ()
Date: March 12, 2010 04:38PM

Though it is better I wasn't criticizing the post... I was stating I didn't make it.

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Re: Stay Classy, Dan Rather
Posted by: Vince(1) ()
Date: March 12, 2010 04:45PM

conVince Wrote:
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> It is funny how Fox News is blasted for being a
> teabagger racist platform, but MSNBC lets thing
> like what Rather said, more racist than anything
> ever broadcast on Fox News, slide free.
>
> I have always said the most racist people in
> America are white demokrats. They are as racist
> as any other white people (especially of that
> generation) but they trick black America into
> siding with them. Then you get guys like Jeremiah
> White on board and they just hate EVERYONE. The
> demokrats are a party of extreme hate. Clips like
> that show the true colors of the white racist
> demokrats and they have no shame in showing it.
> They are saying to Republicans "hey look, we can
> say racist shit and totally get away with it. And
> if you say anything on Fox News that we can twist
> out of context to argue it is racist we will call
> you out on it and send Sharpton to beat on you."


Well...ever hear the term "fair and balanced"? Listen to the fox bobble heads and all you get is the gospel according to Ruppert Murdock and the republican party. On fox "news" all you wouldve heard during that segment and ever other segment is how terrible Obama and all democrats are. No one is defending what Rather said...but to compare an incident on a MSM channel to the bobble head news on fox...is just wrong.

Registered Voter...a Big talking coward..big man on FFXU...little man in life.

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Re: Stay Classy, Dan Rather
Posted by: Vince(1) ()
Date: March 12, 2010 05:03PM

MURDOCH THE WAR MONGER: Just after the Iraq invasion, the New York Times reported, "The war has illuminated anew the exceptional power in the hands of Murdoch, 72, the chairman of News Corp… In the last several months, the editorial policies of almost all his English-language news organizations have hewn very closely to Murdoch's own stridently hawkish political views, making his voice among the loudest in the Anglophone world in the international debate over the American-led war with Iraq." The Guardian reported before the war Murdoch gave "his full backing to war, praising George Bush as acting 'morally' and 'correctly' and describing Tony Blair as 'full of guts'" for his support of the war. Murdoch said just before the war, "We can't back down now – I think Bush is acting very morally, very correctly." [New York Times, 4/9/03; Guardian, 2/12/03]

MURDOCH THE NEOCONSERVATIVE: Murdoch owns the Weekly Standard, the neoconservative journal that employed key figures who pushed for war in Iraq. As the American Journalism Review noted, the circulation of Murdoch's Weekly Standard "hovers at only around 65,000. But its voice is much louder than those numbers suggest." Editor Bill Kristol "is particularly adept at steering Washington policy debates by inserting himself and his views into the discussion." In the early weeks of the War on Terror, Kristol "shepherded a letter to President Bush, signed by 40 D.c= opinion-makers, urging a wider military engagement." [Source: AJR, 12/01]

MURDOCH THE OIL IMPERIALIST: Murdoch has acknowledged his major rationale for supporting the Iraq invasion: oil. While both American and British politicians strenuously deny the significance of oil in the war, the Guardian of London notes, "Murdoch wasn't so reticent. He believes that deposing the Iraqi leader would lead to cheaper oil." Murdoch said before the war, "The greatest thing to come out of this for the world economy...would be $20 a barrel for oil. That's bigger than any tax cut in any country." He buttressed this statement when he later said, "Once [Iraq] is behind us, the whole world will benefit from cheaper oil which will be a bigger stimulus than anything else." [Guardian, 2/17/03]

MURDOCH THE INTIMIDATOR: According to Agence France-Press, "Rupert Murdoch's Fox News Channel threatened to sue the makers of 'The Simpsons' over a parody of the channel's right-wing political stance…In an interview this week with National Public Radio, Matt Groening recalled how the news channel had considered legal action, despite the fact that 'The Simpsons' is broadcast on sister network, Fox Entertainment. According to Groening, Fox took exception took a Simpsons' version of the Fox News rolling news ticker which parodied the channel's anti-Democrat stance with headlines like 'Do Democrats Cause Cancer?'" [Source: Agence France-Press, 10/29/03]

MURDOCH THE NEWS EDITOR: "When The New York Post tore up its front page on Monday night to trumpet an apparent exclusive that Representative Richard A. Gephardt would be Senator John Kerry's running mate, the newspaper based its decision on a very high-ranking source: Rupert Murdoch, the man who controls the company that owns The Post, an employee said yesterday. The Post employee demanded anonymity, saying senior editors had warned that those who discussed the Gephardt gaffe with other news organizations would lose their jobs." [NY Times, 7/9/04]

Just as Fox claims to be "fair and balanced," Rupert Murdoch claims to stay out of partisan politics. But he has made his views quite clear – and used his media empire to implement his wishes. As a former News Corp. executive told Fortune Magazine, Murdoch "hungered for the kind of influence in the United States that he had in England and Australia" and that meant "part of our political strategy [in the U.S.] was the New York Post and the creation of Fox News and the Weekly Standard."

MURDOCH THE BUSH SUPPORTER: Murdoch told Newsweek before the war, Bush "will either go down in history as a very great president or he'll crash and burn. I'm optimistic it will be the former by a ratio of 2 to 1…One senses he is a man of great character and deep humility." [Newsweek, 2/17/03]

MURDOCH THE BUSH FAMILY EMPLOYER: As Slate reports, Murdoch "put George W. Bush cousin John Ellis in charge of [Fox's] Election Night vote-counting operation: Ellis made Fox the first network to declare Bush the victor" even as the New Yorker reported that Ellis spent the evening discussing the election with George W. and Jeb Bush. After the election, Fox bragged that it attracted 6.8 million viewers on Election Night, meaning Ellis was in a key position to tilt the election for President Bush. [Source: Slate, 11/22/00; New Yorker, 11/20/00]

MURDOCH THE MIXER OF BUSINESS AND POLITICS: James Fallows of the Atlantic Monthly points out that most of Murdoch's actions "are consistent with the use of political influence for corporate advantage." In other words, he uses his publications to advance a political agenda that will make him money. The New York Times reports that in 2001, for example, The Sun, Britain's most widely read newspaper, followed Murdoch's lead in dropping its traditional conservative affiliation to endorse Tony Blair, the New Labor candidate. News Corp.'s other British papers, The Times of London, The Sunday Times and the tabloid News of the World, all concurred. The papers account for about 35% of the newspaper market in Britain. Blair backed "a communications bill in the British Parliament that would loosen restrictions on foreign media ownership and allow a major newspaper publisher to own a broadcast television station as well a provision its critics call the 'Murdoch clause' because it seems to apply mainly to News Corp." [Atlantic Monthly, 9/03; New York Times, 4/9/03]

MURDOCH THE NEW YORK CITY POLITICAL BOSS: The Columbia Journalism Review reported that during New York Mayor Rudolph Giuliani's first term "News Corp. received a $20.7 million tax break for the mid-Manhattan office building that houses the Post, Fox News Channel, TV Guide and other operations. During Giuliani's 1997 reelection campaign, News Corp. was also angling for hefty city tax breaks and other incentives to set up a new printing plant in New York City. Most dramatically, Giuliani jumped in to aggressively champion News Corp. when it battled Time Warner over a slot for the Fox News Channel on Time Warner's local cable system…Three years into Giuliani's first term, veteran Village Voice political reporter Wayne Barrett asked Post editorial page editor Eric Breindel if the paper had run a single editorial critical of the administration; Breindel, he says, admitted it had not. According to Barrett, the paper pulled off a perfect four-year streak" of not one critical editorial. [Columbia Journalism Review, 6/98]

Rupert Murdoch thinks of himself as a staunch anti-communist. But a look at the record shows that when his own profits are on the line, he is willing to do favors for the most repressive regimes on the planet.

MURDOCH THE DEFENDER OF REPRESSIVE REGIMES: The last governor of Hong Kong before it was handed back to China, Chris Patten, signed a contract to write his memoirs with Murdoch's publishing company, HarperCollins. But according to the Evening Standard, when "Murdoch heard that the book, East and West, would say unflattering things about the Chinese leadership, with whom he was doing satellite TV business, the contract was cancelled. It caused a furor in the press - except, of course, in the Murdoch papers, which barely mentioned the story." According to BusinessWeek, internal memos surfaced suggesting the canceling of the contract was motivated by "corporate worries about friction with China, where HarperCollins' boss, Rupert Murdoch, has many business interests." [Evening Standard, 8/13/03; BusinessWeek, 9/15/98]

MURDOCH THE APOLOGIST FOR DICTATORSHIPS: Time Magazine reported that while Murdoch is supposedly "a devout anti-Soviet and anti-communist" he "became bewitched by China in the early '90s." In an effort to persuade Chinese dictators that he would never challenge their behavior, Murdoch "threw the BBC off Star TV" (his satellite network operating in China) after BBC aired reports about Chinese human rights violations. Murdoch argued the BBC "was gratuitously attacking the regime, playing film of the massacre in Tiananmen Square over and over again." In 1998 Chinese President Jiang Zemin praised Murdoch for the "objective" way in which his papers and television covered China. [Source: Time Magazine, 10/25/99]

MURDOCH THE PROPAGANDIST FOR DICTATORS: While Murdoch justifies his global media empire as a threat to "totalitarian regimes everywhere," according to Time Magazine, Murdoch actually pays the salary of a top TV consultant working to improve the Chinese government's communist state-run television CCTV. As Time notes, "nowadays, News Corp. and CCTV International are partners of sorts," exchanging agreements to air each other's content, even though CCTV is "a key propaganda arm of the Communist Party." [Source: Time Magazine, 7/6/04]

MURDOCH THE ENABLER OF HUMAN RIGHTS VIOLATORS: According to the LA Times, Murdoch had his son James, now in charge of News Corp.'s China initiative, attack the Falun Gong, the spiritual movement banned by the Chinese government after 10,000 of its followers protested in Tiananmen Square. With Rupert in attendance, James Murdoch called the movement a "dangerous" and "apocalyptic cult" and lambasted the Western press for its negative portrayal of China's awful human rights record. Murdoch "startled even China's supporters with his zealous defense of that government's harsh crackdown on Falun Gong and criticism of Hong Kong democracy supporters." Murdoch also "said Hong Kong democracy advocates should accept the reality of life under a strong-willed 'absolutist' government." It "appeared to some to be a blatant effort to curry favor" with the China's repressive government. [LA Times, 3/23/01]

MURDOCH THE HIDER OF MONEY IN COMMUNIST CUBA: Despite a U.S. embargo of communist Cuba, the Washington Post reports, "News Corp.'s organizational chart consists of no less than 789 business units incorporated in 52 countries, including Mauritius, Fiji and even Cuba." [Washington Post, 12/7/97]

From union busting to tax evading, Rupert Murdoch has established a shady business record that raises serious questions about his corporate ethics.

MURDOCH THE UNION BUSTER: The Economist reported that in 1986 Murdoch "helped smash the British print unions by transferring the production of his newspapers to a non-union plant at Wapping in East London." The move "proved to be a turning-point in Britain's dreadful industrial relations." AP reported Murdoch specifically "slashed employment levels" at the union plant and said he would "dismiss the 6,000 striking workers" who were trying to force concessions out of the media baron. The London Evening Standard called the tactics "the biggest union-busting operation in history." [Sources: The Economist, 4/18/98; AP, 1/27/86; Evening Standard, 11/12/98]

MURDOCH THE CORPORATE TAX EVADER: The BBC reported that "Mr. Murdoch's die-hard loyalty to the tax loophole has drawn wide criticism" after a report found that in the four years prior to June 30, 1998, "Murdoch's News Corporation and its subsidiaries paid only $325 million in corporate taxes worldwide. That translates as 6% of the $5.4 billion consolidated pre-tax profits for the same period…By comparison another multi-national media empire, Disney, paid 31%. The corporate tax rates for the three main countries in which News Corp. operates - Australia, the United States and the UK - are 36%, 35% and 30% respectively. Further research reveals that Mr. Murdoch's main British holding company, News Corp. Investments, has paid no net corporation tax within these shores over the past 11 years. This is despite accumulated pre-tax profits of nearly $3 billion." [Source: BBC, 3/25/99]

MURDOCH THE LOVER OF OFFSHORE TAX HAVENS: When a congressional panel asked if he was hiding money in tax havens, including communist Cuba, Murdoch responded "we might have in the past, I'm not denying that." The Washington Post reports, "through the deft use of international accounting loopholes and offshore tax havens, Murdoch has paid corporate income taxes at one-fifth the rate of his chief U.S. rivals throughout the 1990s, according to corporate documents and company officials." Murdoch "has mastered the use of the offshore tax haven." His company "reduces its annual tax bill by channeling profits through dozens of subsidiaries in low-tax or no-tax places such as the Cayman Islands and Bermuda. The overseas profits from movies made by 20th Century Fox, for instance, flow into a News Corp.-controlled company in the Caymans, where they are not taxed." [Source: Congressional Testimony, 5/8/03; Washington Post, 12/7/97]

MURDOCH THE ABUSER OF TAX LOOPHOLES: Even though Murdoch changed his citizenship in order to comply with U.S. media ownership rules, many of his companies have remained Australian, allowing them "to utilize arcane accounting rules that have pumped up reported profits and greatly aided Murdoch's periodic acquisition sprees." IRS officials point out that "U.S.-based companies face U.S. taxes on their offshore subsidiaries in the Caymans and elsewhere if more than 50 percent of the subsidiary is controlled by American shareholders. But that doesn't apply to News Corp., an Australian company." [Source: Congressional Testimony, 5/8/03; Washington Post, 12/7/97]

Registered Voter...a Big talking coward..big man on FFXU...little man in life.

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Re: Stay Classy, Dan Rather
Posted by: MrMephisto ()
Date: March 12, 2010 05:11PM

I can't tell whether or not that's another of your spam posts.

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Re: Stay Classy, Dan Rather
Posted by: Harry Tuttle ()
Date: March 12, 2010 05:19PM

MATHEMATICAL EXPRESSION REPRESENTING AGREEMENT

MrMephisto Wrote:
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> I can't tell whether or not that's another of your
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Re: Stay Classy, Dan Rather
Posted by: Registered Voter ()
Date: March 12, 2010 05:32PM

Well, he decided to post the same, non-sourced BS in two threads, so it is pretty close.

Oh yeah:

http://www.americanprogress.org/issues/2004/07/b122948.html

Like these guys don't have an agenda. May as well lump them with mediamatters and you have a pair of winners. I guess we should just take it that these sites represent verbatim what passes for an opinion in Vs head.

If you can’t model the past, where you know the answer pretty well, how can you model the future? - William Happer Cyrus Fogg Brackett Professor of Physics Princeton University

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Re: Stay Classy, Dan Rather
Posted by: correction ()
Date: March 12, 2010 05:54PM

What Registered Voter meant:

Like I don't have an agenda. May as well lump me with FoxNews and you have a pair of losers. I guess we should just take it that these sites represent verbatim what passes for an opinion in Vs head. (huh? wtf?)

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Re: Stay Classy, Dan Rather
Posted by: correction ()
Date: March 12, 2010 06:52PM

Vince(1),
Want some pictures of me modeling my thong? If you are into bananas you'll love them! Hit me up and I will give them to you in person. Do you have any banana hammock pics to share?

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Re: Stay Classy, Dan Rather
Posted by: Vince(1) ()
Date: March 12, 2010 08:13PM

MrMephisto Wrote:
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> I can't tell whether or not that's another of your
> spam posts.


Of course you cant..you are blinded from having your face deep into the RV/Gravis/JR ass for so long..that's all you can see...and smell.

Registered Voter...a Big talking coward..big man on FFXU...little man in life.

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Re: Stay Classy, Dan Rather
Posted by: Vince(1) ()
Date: March 12, 2010 08:15PM

Registered Voter Wrote:
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> Well, he decided to post the same, non-sourced BS
> in two threads, so it is pretty close.
>
> Oh yeah:
>
> http://www.americanprogress.org/issues/2004/07/b12
> 2948.html
>
> Like these guys don't have an agenda. May as well
> lump them with mediamatters and you have a pair of
> winners. I guess we should just take it that these
> sites represent verbatim what passes for an
> opinion in Vs head.


When you cant refute the facts....attack..attack..attack...but whats new!

Rupert is the master mind of yellow journalism...a chicken hawk ready to send others to their deaths.

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Re: Stay Classy, Dan Rather
Posted by: Registered Voter ()
Date: March 12, 2010 11:47PM

You posted a "fact" Vince? Because honestly that just looked like a summary from some other site that pulled bits of BS out of their ass and strung it all together for folks like you to run off and play with. Now if you had actually verified the BS you plagiarized from their web site, and then gave your own thoughts on it I might have more respect for it. Well, ok that is probably not true.

In any case, you plagiarize so much here, if I ever find out what government agency you worked for, I may have to go back and ask them to do a review of any documentation you produced there to be sure you didn't rip off someone's copyright.

Here's a list - I won't vouch for it. It is about as informative as the one you listed.

CLINTON BODY COUNT
By: Ether Zone Staff
http://www.etherzone.com/body.html
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Here is the latest body count that we have. All of these people have been connected with the Clintons in some form or another. We have not included any deaths that could not be verified or connected to the Clinton scandals. All deaths are listed chronologically by date. This list is current and accurate to the best of our knowledge as of January 13, 1999 August 1, 2000.

Susan Coleman: Rumors were circulating in Arkansas of an affair with Bill Clinton. She was found dead with a gunshot wound to the head at 7 1/2 months pregnant. Death was an apparent suicide.

Larry Guerrin: Was killed in February 1987 while investigating the INSLAW case.

Kevin Ives & Don Henry: Initial cause of death was reported to be the result of falling asleep on a railroad track in Arkansas on August 23, 1987. This ruling was reported by the State medical examiner Fahmy Malak. Later it was determined that Kevin died from a crushed skull prior to being placed on the tracks. Don had been stabbed in the back. Rumors indicate that they might have stumbled upon a Mena drug operation.

Keith Coney: Keith had information on the Ives/Henry deaths. Died in a motorcycle accident in July 1988 with unconfirmed reports of a high speed car chase.

Keith McKaskle: McKaskle has information on the Ives/Henry deaths. He was stabbed to death in November 1988.

Gregory Collins: Greg had information on the Ives/Henry deaths. He died from a gunshot wound to the face in January 1989.

Jeff Rhodes: He had information on the deaths of Ives, Henry & McKaskle. His burned body was found in a trash dump in April 1989. He died of a gunshot wound to the head and there was some body mutilation, leading to the probably speculation that he was tortured prior to being killed.

James Milam: Milam had information on the Ives & Henry deaths. He was decapitated. The state Medical examiner, Fahmy Malak, initially ruled death due to natural causes.

Richard Winters: Winters was a suspect in the deaths of Ives & Henry. He was killed in a "robbery" in July 1989 which was subsequently proven to be a setup.

Jordan Kettleson: Kettleson had information on the Ives & Henry deaths. He was found shot to death in the front seat of his pickup in June 1990.

Alan Standorf: An employee of the National Security Agency in electronic intelligence. Standorf was a source of information for Danny Casalaro who was investigating INSLAW, BCCI, etc. Standorf's body was found in the backseat of a car at Washington National Airport on Jan 31, 1991.

Dennis Eisman: An attorney with information on INSLAW. Eisman was found shot to death on April 5, 1991.

Danny Casalaro: Danny was a free-lance reporter and writer who was investigating the "October Surprise", INSLAW and BCCI. Danny was found dead in a bathtub in a Sheraton Hotel room in Martinsburg, West Virginia. Danny was staying at the hotel while keeping appointments in the DC area pertinent to his investigation. He was found with his wrists slashed. At least one, and possibly both of his wrists were cut 10 times. All of his research materials were missing and have never been recovered.

Victor Raiser: The National Finance Co-Chair for "Clinton for President." He died in a airplane crash on July 30, 1992.

R. Montgomery Raiser: Also involved in the Clinton presidential campaign. He died in the same plane crash as Victor.

Paul Tully: Tulley was on the Democratic National Committee. He was found dead of unknown causes in his hotel room on September 24, 1992. No autopsy was ever allowed.

Ian Spiro: Spiro had supporting documentation for grand jury proceedings on the INSLAW case. His wife and 3 children were found murdered on November 1, 1992 in their home. They all died of gunshot wounds to the head. Ian's body was found several days later in a parked car in the Borego Desert. Cause of death? The ingestion of cyanide. FBI report indicated that Ian had murdered his family and then committed suicide.

Paula Gober: A Clinton speech writer. She died in a car accident on December 9, 1992 with no known witnesses.

Jim Wilhite: Wilhite was an associate of Mack McClarty's former firm. Wilhite died in a skiing accident on December 21, 1992. He also had extensive ties to Clinton with whom he visited by telephone just hours before his death.

Steve Willis, Robert Williams, Todd McKeahan & Conway LeBleu: Died Feburary 28, 1993 by gunfire at Waco. All four were examined by a pathologist and died from identical wounds to the left temple. All four had been body guards for Bill Clinton, three while campaigning for President and when he was Governor of Arkansas.They also were the ONLY 4 BATF agents killed at Waco.

Sgt. Brian Haney, Sgt. Tim Sabel, Maj. William Barkley, Capt. Scott Reynolds: Died: May 19, 1993 - All four men died when their helicopter crashed in the woods near Quantico, Va. - Reporters were barred from the site, and the head of the fire department responding to the crash described it by saying, "Security was tight," with "lots of Marines with guns." A videotape made by a firefighter was seized by the Marines. All four men had escorted Clinton on his flight to the carrier Roosevelt shortly before their deaths.

John Crawford: An attorney with information on INSLAW. He died from a heart attack in Tacoma in April of 1993.

John Wilson: Found dead from an apparent hanging suicide on May 18, 1993. He was a former Washington DC council member and claimed to have info on Whitewater.

Paul Wilcher: A lawyer who was investigating drug running out of Mena, Arkansas and who also sought to expose the "October Surprise", BCCI and INSLAW. He was found in his Washington DC apartment dead of unknown causes on June 22, 1993.

Vincent Foster: A White House deputy counsel and long-time personal friend of Bill and Hillary's. Found on July 20, 1993, dead of a gunshot wound to the mouth -- a death ruled suicide. Many different theories on this case! Readers are encouraged to read our report in Strange Deaths.

Jon Parnell Walker: An investigator for the RTC who was looking into the linkage between the Whitewater and Madison S&L bankruptcy. Walker "fell" from the top of the Lincoln Towers Building.

Stanley Heard & Steven Dickson: They were members of the Clinton health care advisory committee. They died in a plane crash on September 10, 1993.

Jerry Luther Parks: Parks was the Chief of Security for Clinton's national campaign headquarters in Little Rock. Gunned down in his car on September 26, 1993 near the intersection of Chenal Parkway and Highway 10 west of Little Rock. Parks was shot through the rear window of his car. The assailant then pulled around to the driver's side of Park's car and shot him three more times with a 9mm pistol. His family reported that shortly before his death, they were being followed by unknown persons, and their home had been broken into (despite a top quality alarm system). Parks had been compiling a dossier on Clinton's illicit activities. The dossier was stolen.

Ed Willey: A Clinton fundraiser. He died of a self-inflicted gunshot wound on November 30, 1993. His death came the same day his wife, Kathleen, was sexually assaulted in the White House by Bill Clinton.

Gandy Baugh: Baugh was Lasater's attorney and committed suicide on January 8, 1994. Baugh's partner committed suicide exactly one month later on February 8, 1994.

Herschell Friday: A member of the presidential campaign finance committee. He died in an airplane explosion on March 1, 1994.

Ronald Rogers: Rogers died on March 3, 1994 just prior to releasing sensitive information to a London newspaper. Cause of death? Undetermined.

Kathy Furguson: A 38 year old hospital worker whose ex-husband is a co- defendant in the Paula Jones sexual harassment law suit. She had information supporting Paula Jone's allegations. She died of an apparent suicide on May 11, 1994 from a gunshot wound to the head.

Bill Shelton: Shelton was an Arkansas police officer and was found dead as an apparent suicide on kathy Ferguson's grave (Kathy was his girl friend), on June 12, 1994. This "suicide" was the result of a gunshot wound to the back of the head.

Stanley Huggins: Huggins, 46, was a principal in a Memphis law firm which headed a 1987 investigation into the loan practices of Madison Guaranty S&L. Stanley died in Delaware in July 1994 -- reported cause of death was viral pneumonia.

Paul Olson: A Federal witness in investigations to drug money corruption in Chicago politics, Paul had just finished 2 days of FBI interviews when his plane ride home crashed, killing Paul and 130 others on Sept 8 1994. The Sept. 15, 1994 Tempe Tribune newspaper reported that the FBI suspected that a bomb had brought down the airplane.

Calvin Walraven: 24 year on Walraven was a key witness against Jocelyn Elder's son's drug case. Walraven was found dead in his apartment with a gunshot wound to the head. Tim Hover, a Little Rock police spokesman says no foul play is suspected.

Alan G. Whicher: Oversaw Clinton's Secret Service detail. In October 1994 Whicher was transferred to the Secret Service field office in the Murrah Building in Oklahoma City. Whatever warning was given to the BATF agents in that building did not reach Alan Whicher, who died in the bomb blast of April 19th 1995.

Duane Garrett: Died July 26, 1995-A lawyer and a talk show host for KGO-AM in San Fransisco, Duane was the campaign finance chairman for Diane Fienstien's run for the senate, and was a friend and fundraiser for Al Gore. Garrett was under investigation for defrauding investors in Garrett's failed sports memorabilia venture. There was talk of a deal to evade prosecution. On July 26th, Garrett canceled an afternoon meeting with his lawyer because he had to meet some people at the San Fransisco airport. Three hours later he was found floating in the bay under the Golden Gate Bridge.

Ron Brown:. The Commerce Secretary died on April 3, 1996, in an Air Force jet carrying Brown and 34 others, including 14 business executives on a trade mission to Croatia, crashed into a mountainside. The Air Force, in a 22-volume report issued in June of 1996, confirmed its initial judgment that the crash resulted from pilot errors and faulty navigation equipment At the time of Brown's death, Independent Counsel Daniel Pearson was seeking to determine whether Brown had engaged in several sham financial transactions with longtime business partner Nolanda Hill shortly before he became secretary of commerce.

Charles Meissner: died: UNK - Following Ron Brown's death, John Huang was placed on a Commerce Department contract that allowed him to retain his security clearance
by Charles Meissner. Shortly thereafter, Meissner died in the crash of a small plane. He was an Assistant Secretary of Commerce for International Economic Policy.

William Colby: Retired CIA director was found dead on May 6,1996 after his wife reported him missing on April 27,1996. Apparently, Colby decided to go on a impromptu canoeing excursion and never returned. Colby who had just started writing for Strategic Investment newsletter, worried many in the intelligent community. Colby's past history of divulging CIA secrets in the past were well known. Strategic Investor had covered the Vince Foster suicide and had hired handwriting experts to review Foster's suicide note.

Admiral Jeremy Boorda: Died on May 16,1996 after he went home for lunch and decided to shoot himself in the chest (by one report, twice) rather than be interviewed by Newsweek magazine that afternoon. Explanations for Boorda's suicide focused on a claim that he was embarrassed over two "Valor" pins he was not authorized to wear.

Lance Herndon: Herndon a 41 year old computer specialist and a prominent entrepreneur who received a presidential appointment in 1995 died August 10, 1996 under suspicious circumstances. He appeared to have died from a blow to the head. Police said no weapons were found at his mansion, adding that Mr. Herndon had not been shot or stabbed and there was no evidence of forced entry or theft.

Neil Moody: Died -August 25, 1996 Following Vincent Foster's murder, Lisa Foster married James Moody, a judge in Arkansas, on Jan 1, 1996. Near the time Susan McDougal first went to jail for contempt, Judge Moor's son, Neil died in a car crash. There were other reports that Neil Moody had discovered something very unsettling among his stepmother's private papers and was threatening to go public with it just prior to the beginning of the Democratic National Convention. He was alleged to have been talking to Bob Woodward of the Washington Post about a blockbuster story. Witnesses said they saw Neil Moody sitting in his car arguing with another person just prior to His car suddenly speeding off out of control and hitting a brick wall.

Barbara Wise: Wise a 14-year Commerce Department employee found dead and partially naked in her office following a long weekend. She worked in the same section as John Huang. Officially, she is said to have died of natural causes.

Doug Adams: Died January 7, 1997- A lawyer in Arkansas who got involved trying to help the people who were being swindled out of their life savings. Adams was found in his vehicle with a gunshot wound to his head in a Springfield Mo. hospital parking lot.

Mary C. Mahoney: 25, murdered at the Georgetown Starbuck's coffee bar over the 4th of July '97 weekend. She was a former White House intern who worked with John Huang. Apparently she knew Monica Lewinsky and her sexual encounters with Bill Clinton. Although not verified, it has been said that Lewinsky told Linda Tripp that she did not want to end up like Mahoney.

Ronald Miller: Suddenly took ill on October 3rd,1997 and steadily worsened until his death 9 days later. (This pattern fits Ricin poisoning.) Owing to the strangeness of the illness, doctors at the Integris Baptist Medical Center referred the matter to the Oklahoma State Medical Examiner's Office. The Oklahoma State Medical Examiner's Office promptly ran tests on samples of Ron Miller's blood, but has refused to release the results or even to confirm that the tests were ever completed.

Had been investigated by authorities over the sale of his company, Gage Corp. to Dynamic Energy Resources, Inc. was the man who tape recorded Gene and Nora Lum and turned those tapes (and other records) over to congressional oversight investigators. The Lums were sentenced to prison for campaign finance violations, using "straw donors" to conceal the size of their contributions to various candidates. Indeed, Dynamic Energy Resources, Inc. had hired Ron Brown's son Michael solely for the purpose of funneling $60,000 through him to the Commerce Secretary, according to Nolanda Hill's testimony.

Sandy Hume: On Sunday, February 22nd, 1998, Sandy Hume, the 28 year old son of journalist Britt Hume, was reportedly found dead in his Arlington, Virginia home. Aside from the statement that this was an "apparent" suicide, there remains in place a total media blackout on this story, possibly out of concern that the actual facts will not withstand public scrutiny. Worked for Hill magazine, about Congress for Congress.

Jim McDougal: Bill and Hillary Clinton friend, banker, and political ally, sent to prison for eighteen felony convictions. A key whitewater witness, dies of a heart attack on March, 8 1998. As of this writing allegations that he was given an injection of the diuretic lasix has not been denied or confirmed.
Died on March 8, 1998

Johnny Lawhon: 29, died March 29, 1998- The Arkansas transmission specialist who discovered a pile of Whitewater documents in the trunk of an abandoned car on his property and turned them over to Starr, was killed in a car wreck two weeks after the McDougal death.. Details of the "accident" have been sketchy -- even from the local Little Rock newspaper.

Charles Wilbourne Miller: 63, was found dead of a gunshot wound to the head on November 17, 1998 in a shallow pit about 300 yards from his ranch house near Little Rock. Police found a .410 gauge shotgun near Miller's body and a Ruger .357-caliber revolver submerged in water. Investigators concluded the Ruger was the weapon used by Miller to kill himself. Yet, two rounds in the handgun's cylinder had been spent.

He had long served as executive vice president and member of the board of directors for a company called Alltel and was deeply involved in his own software engineering company until the day he died. Alltel is the successor to Jackson Stephens' Systematics, the company that provided the software for the White House's "Big Brother" data base system and that was behind the administration's plan to develop the secret computer "Clipper" chip to bug every phone, fax and email transmission in America.

Carlos Ghigliotti: 42, was found dead in his home just outside of Washington D.C. on April 28, 2000. There was no sign of a break-in or struggle at the firm of Infrared Technology where the badly decomposed body of Ghigliotti was found. Ghigliotti had not been seen for several weeks.

Ghigliotti, a thermal imaging analyst hired by the House Government Reform Committee to review tape of the siege, said he determined the FBI fired shots on April 19, 1993. The FBI has explained the light bursts on infrared footage as reflections of sun rays on shards of glass or other debris that littered the scene.

"I conclude this based on the groundview videotapes taken from several different angles simultaneously and based on the overhead thermal tape," Ghigliotti told The Washington Post last October. "The gunfire from the ground is there, without a doubt."

Ghigliotti said the tapes also confirm the Davidians fired repeatedly at FBI agents during the assault, which ended when flames raced through the compound. About 80 Branch Davidians perished that day, some from the fire, others from gunshot wounds.

Mark Corallo, a spokesman for the congressional committee chaired by Rep. Dan Burton, R-Ind., said that police found the business cards of a committee investigator in Ghigliotti's office. Corallo said Ghigliotti's work for the committee ended some time ago.

Tony Moser: 41, was killed as he crossed a street in Pine Bluff, Ark on on June 10, 2000. Killed 10 days after being named a columnist for the Democrat-Gazette newspaper and two days after penning a stinging indictment of political corruption in Little Rock.

Police have concluded that no charges will be filed against the unnamed driver of a 1995 Chevrolet pickup, which hit Moser as he was walking alone in the middle of unlit Rhinehart Road about 10:10 p.m

Police say they have ruled out foul play and will file no charges against the driver because he was not intoxicated and there was no sign of excessive speed.

If you can’t model the past, where you know the answer pretty well, how can you model the future? - William Happer Cyrus Fogg Brackett Professor of Physics Princeton University



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Re: Stay Classy, Dan Rather
Posted by: Vince(1) ()
Date: March 13, 2010 08:58AM

I love it when the king of cut and paste accuses me of cutting and pasting! All you do is post endless articles from bobble head web sites! So..here's a suggestion...drop dead!

Registered Voter...a Big talking coward..big man on FFXU...little man in life.

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Re: Stay Classy, Dan Rather
Posted by: Registered Voter ()
Date: March 13, 2010 09:07AM

Vince(1) Wrote:
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> I love it when the king of cut and paste accuses
> me of cutting and pasting! All you do is post
> endless articles from bobble head web sites!
> So..here's a suggestion...drop dead!

I was merely emulating you. Although I did actually post the link to the source - unlike your plagiarized BS.

If you can’t model the past, where you know the answer pretty well, how can you model the future? - William Happer Cyrus Fogg Brackett Professor of Physics Princeton University

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Re: Stay Classy, Dan Rather
Posted by: Vince(1) ()
Date: March 13, 2010 09:12AM

Registered Voter Wrote:
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> Vince(1) Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > I love it when the king of cut and paste
> accuses
> > me of cutting and pasting! All you do is post
> > endless articles from bobble head web sites!
> > So..here's a suggestion...drop dead!
>
> I was merely emulating you. Although I did
> actually post the link to the source - unlike your
> plagiarized BS.


Oh please....get fucking real...every topic on here has a deluge of RV cut and pastes...just look at your global warming thread....endless cut and paste. As far as me plagerizing..I think it's pretty obvious when Ive cut and pasted and when I havent...even an idiot like you can tell. If you or anyone cared about the original source a simple google search can find it....so...bobble head...find a new cut and paste to bore us with.

Registered Voter...a Big talking coward..big man on FFXU...little man in life.

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Re: Stay Classy, Dan Rather
Posted by: sagasdgsag ()
Date: March 16, 2010 02:47PM

It is funny how Fox News is blasted for being a teabagger rakist platform, but MSNBk lets thing like what Rather said, more rakist than anything ever broadkast on Fox News, slide free.

I have always said the most rakist people in Amerika are white demokrats. They are as rakist as any other white people (espekially of that generation) but they trikk blakk Amerika into siding with them. Then you get guys like Jeremiah White on board and they just hate EVERYONE. The demokrats are a party of extreme hate. klips like that show the true kolors of the white rakist demokrats and they have no shame in showing it. They are saying to Republikans "hey look, we kan say rakist shit and totally get away with it. And if you say anything on Fox News that we kan twist out of kontext to argue it is rakist we will kall you out on it and send Sharpton to beat on you."

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