We are all well aware of Senator Obama creating fictional voters in order to increase registrant numbers and promote double voting by numerous people throughout the state and the country. He does this directly through his campaign and through surrogates like ACORN and organized labor. Now, comes news that his fundraising is just as shady. It has recently been reported that Obama's record breaking fundraising is likely as fraudulent as the registrations his campaign is pumping into the electorate. Consider the cases of Obama donors "Doodad Pro" of Nunda, N.Y., who gave $17,130, and "Good Will" of Austin, Texas, who gave more than $11,000—both in excess of the $2,300-per-person federal limit, all in increments of less than $200. "Good Will" listed his employer as "Loving" and his occupation as "You," while supplying as his address 1015 Norwood Park Boulevard, which is shared by the Austin nonprofit Goodwill Industries. "Doodad Pro" listed no occupation or employer; the contributor's listed address is shared by Lloyd and Lynn's Liquor Store in Nunda. This summer, watchdog groups asked both campaigns to share more information about its small donors. The McCain campaign agreed; the Obama campaign did not. What is Senator Obama hiding? Where is this money coming from?

Mr. Tin Foil Hat Wearer: it's a CONSPIRACY!!!!


lol

TheMeeper Wrote:
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> Mr. Tin Foil Hat Wearer: it's a CONSPIRACY!!!!
>
>
> lol

It is a conspiracy, a criminal conspiracy. The above post is all based on reported articles in reputable publications such as newsweek, reuters, etc. I realize that questioning Senator Obama's campaign crimes is blasphemy to you, but some facts are as certain as the sun setting this evening.

Go cling to religion, you dumbass

TheMeeper Wrote:
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> Go cling to religion, you dumbass

Sounds like somebody has a case of the Mondays.

Where's that strawman pic, Meep? The Republicans are looking to do anything to manufacture news once again.

We all know where his money is coming from the terrorists! LOL..you are one sick bastard Mr CV!

Vince(1) Wrote:
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> We all know where his money is coming from the
> terrorists! LOL..you are one sick bastard Mr CV!

I wasn't originally thinking that was the source of his influx in cash, but it did get me to thinking, and then I stumbled across this:

Libyan leader Moammar Gadhafi gave a public speech praising Obama, claiming foreign nationals were donating to his campaign.

“All the people in the Arab and Islamic world and in Africa applauded this man,” the Libyan leader said. “They welcomed him and prayed for him and for his success, and they may have even been involved in legitimate contribution campaigns to enable him to win the American presidency..."

Though Gadhafi asserted that fundraising from Arab and African nations were “legitimate,” the fact is that U.S. federal law bans any foreigner from donating to a U.S. election campaign.

A pair of Palestinian brothers named Hosam and Monir Edwan contributed more than $31,300 to the Obama campaign in October and November 2007, FEC records show.

Until recently, the Obama Web site allowed a contributor to select the country where he resided from the entire membership of the United Nations, including such friendly places as North Korea and the Islamic Republic of Iran.


Unlike McCain’s or Sen. Hillary Clinton’s online donation pages, the Obama site did not ask for proof of citizenship until just recently. Clinton’s presidential campaign required U.S. citizens living abroad to actually fax a copy of their passport before a donation would be accepted.


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I originally assumed dirty shenanigans domestically which is the usual modus operendi of the Democratic Party. While I still think that is going on, I believe a good portion of the illegal cash is foreign. You can mock this all you want, but it is apparantly newsworth to Newsweek and Reuters.

Oh god! Not Doodad Pro!

I'm going to enjoy the Keating 5 content rolling out this week.

Concerned Voter Wrote:
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> Vince(1) Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > We all know where his money is coming from the
> > terrorists! LOL..you are one sick bastard Mr
> CV!
>
> I wasn't originally thinking that was the source
> of his influx in cash, but it did get me to
> thinking, and then I stumbled across this:
>
> Libyan leader Moammar Gadhafi gave a public speech
> praising Obama, claiming foreign nationals were
> donating to his campaign.
>
> “All the people in the Arab and Islamic world and
> in Africa applauded this man,” the Libyan leader
> said. “They welcomed him and prayed for him and
> for his success, and they may have even been
> involved in legitimate contribution campaigns to
> enable him to win the American presidency..."
>
> Though Gadhafi asserted that fundraising from Arab
> and African nations were “legitimate,” the fact is
> that U.S. federal law bans any foreigner from
> donating to a U.S. election campaign.
>
> A pair of Palestinian brothers named Hosam and
> Monir Edwan contributed more than $31,300 to the
> Obama campaign in October and November 2007, FEC
> records show.
>
> Until recently, the Obama Web site allowed a
> contributor to select the country where he resided
> from the entire membership of the United Nations,
> including such friendly places as North Korea and
> the Islamic Republic of Iran.
>
>
> Unlike McCain’s or Sen. Hillary Clinton’s online
> donation pages, the Obama site did not ask for
> proof of citizenship until just recently.
> Clinton’s presidential campaign required U.S.
> citizens living abroad to actually fax a copy of
> their passport before a donation would be
> accepted.
>
>
> ----------------
>
> I originally assumed dirty shenanigans
> domestically which is the usual modus operendi of
> the Democratic Party. While I still think that is
> going on, I believe a good portion of the illegal
> cash is foreign. You can mock this all you want,
> but it is apparantly newsworth to Newsweek and
> Reuters.


Hey..Omar is a great friend of you republikans..you all take great credit in reforming him! This is what we have to look forward to for the next 30 days...republikan garbage on top of more republikan garbage.

Vince(1) Wrote:
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> Hey..Omar is a great friend of you
> republikans..you all take great credit in
> reforming him! This is what we have to look
> forward to for the next 30 days...republikan
> garbage on top of more republikan garbage.

Speaking of garbage, have you been out filling in fake voter registration cards today? What did the Obama campaign set as your quota? 200 or so? You do know that election fraud can lead to jail time, don't you? I hope they catch the whole lot of you and toss you in jail.

are ya scared Fair Election? Afraid you might have to expand your lilly white world a little? Afraid you wont be able to compete in the world? If not you should be!

Vince(1) Wrote:
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> are ya scared Fair Election? Afraid you might
> have to expand your lilly white world a little?
> Afraid you wont be able to compete in the world?
> If not you should be!

So, you do admit to cheating.

Cheating on voter registrations is certainly not as offensive as Republicans lying to the American public. WMDs? Fundamentally strong economy? I would venture to guess the 2000 election would amount to cheating as well.

exacrly where/how did I say that?

Concerned Voter Wrote:
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> We are all well aware of Senator Obama creating
> fictional voters in order to increase registrant
> numbers and promote double voting by numerous
> people throughout the state and the country. He
> does this directly through his campaign and
> through surrogates like ACORN and organized labor.
> Now, comes news that his fundraising is just as
> shady. It has recently been reported that Obama's
> record breaking fundraising is likely as
> fraudulent as the registrations his campaign is
> pumping into the electorate. Consider the cases
> of Obama donors "Doodad Pro" of Nunda, N.Y., who
> gave $17,130, and "Good Will" of Austin, Texas,
> who gave more than $11,000—both in excess of the
> $2,300-per-person federal limit, all in increments
> of less than $200. "Good Will" listed his
> employer as "Loving" and his occupation as "You,"
> while supplying as his address 1015 Norwood Park
> Boulevard, which is shared by the Austin nonprofit
> Goodwill Industries. "Doodad Pro" listed no
> occupation or employer; the contributor's listed
> address is shared by Lloyd and Lynn's Liquor Store
> in Nunda. This summer, watchdog groups asked both
> campaigns to share more information about its
> small donors. The McCain campaign agreed; the
> Obama campaign did not. What is Senator Obama
> hiding? Where is this money coming from?

I guess what Obama should do is have somebody donate to McCain's campaign using false information, and then report it to the FEC.

You do realize that both parties play dirty, don't you? R's slash tires on "get out the vote" vans, D's try to suppress absentee ballots from overseas troops, R's get the police to have police checkpoints in predominantly black areas to scare black people from going out to vote, D's try to purge registration lists, and so do R's.

I wouldn't be surprised if some partisan person, maybe not even connected to McCain's campaign, but who just really wants McCain to win is responsible for those strange, questionable donations. Don't forget, as the newsweek articles states, these are internet donations. And I wouldn't be surprised if some other partisan person who wants Obama to win has done the same, donating to McCain's campaign.

The "palestinians bought a box of Obama 08 shirts", don't forget. That to me sounds more like a dirty trick trying to play up the McCain whisper campaign that Obama is a super secret sleeper cell terrorist who is going to hand the country over to the muslims.

I'd use better judgement than to just glom onto any negative thing that hurts the candidate you don't like.

http://www.nypost.com/seven/10062008/news/nationalnews/homeless_driven_to_vote_obama_132395.htm

Quote

Early today, Stadlin's van picked up William Woods, 59, at the soup kitchen of the Bishop Cosgrove Center.

"I never voted before," Woods said, because of a felony conviction that previously barred him from the polls. "Without this service, I would have had no way to get here."

Brilliant.

Question: Is Obama stealing the Election?

Short Answer: No.

Long Answer: Nooooooooooooope.

Chicago politics goes back to a long history of the practice. Just as a note.

Bob Wrote:
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> I guess what Obama should do is have somebody
> donate to McCain's campaign using false
> information, and then report it to the FEC.
>
> You do realize that both parties play dirty, don't
> you? R's slash tires on "get out the vote" vans,
> D's try to suppress absentee ballots from overseas
> troops, R's get the police to have police
> checkpoints in predominantly black areas to scare
> black people from going out to vote, D's try to
> purge registration lists, and so do R's.
>
> I wouldn't be surprised if some partisan person,
> maybe not even connected to McCain's campaign, but
> who just really wants McCain to win is responsible
> for those strange, questionable donations. Don't
> forget, as the newsweek articles states, these are
> internet donations. And I wouldn't be surprised
> if some other partisan person who wants Obama to
> win has done the same, donating to McCain's
> campaign.
>
> The "palestinians bought a box of Obama 08
> shirts", don't forget. That to me sounds more
> like a dirty trick trying to play up the McCain
> whisper campaign that Obama is a super secret
> sleeper cell terrorist who is going to hand the
> country over to the muslims.
>
> I'd use better judgement than to just glom onto
> any negative thing that hurts the candidate you
> don't like.

Bob, I'd use better facts to support your argument. It was the Democrats that slashed the tires of GOP gotv vans.

"Five Kerry-Edwards campaign staffers, including the sons of two prominent Milwaukee Democrats, were charged Monday with the election day tire slashings of 25 get-out-the-vote vehicles rented by Republicans.

Milwaukee County District Attorney E. Michael McCann announced the felony charges – each of which could result in a 3 1/2-year prison sentence and a $10,000 fine - in a rare news conference."

Democheats have a long long history of stealing elections through fraud, intimidation and other illegal activity. Concerned voter has a reason to be concerned.

ACORN investigated. This is probably the first in a series of raids that will unhinge the democheats. What will the DemocRATS do when they can't commit fraud on a national scale? Why are they so afraid that they need to cheat? Vince, you're next.

LAS VEGAS (AP) — Nevada state authorities are raiding the Las Vegas headquarters of an organization that works to get low-income people to vote.

A Nevada secretary of state's office spokesman said Tuesday that investigators are looking for evidence of voter fraud at the office of the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now, also called ACORN.

No one was at the ACORN office when state agents arrived with a search warrant and began carting records and documents away.

Secretary of State spokesman Bob Walsh says ACORN is accused of submitting multiple voter registrations with false and duplicate names.

The raid comes two months after state and federal authorities formed a task force to pursue election-fraud allegations in Nevada.

At exactly 11pm EST, open the window and face in the southern direction. If you're real quiet, you'll hear several thousand wimpering Republicans who have finally understood that their vote won't count as it's a lost cause.

I'm "Shhh. Listen" and I approve this message.

And if yo listen even closer you will hear Sarah sucking John's cock.

Cheating Dems love to cheat and steal Wrote:
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> Bob Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > I guess what Obama should do is have somebody
> > donate to McCain's campaign using false
> > information, and then report it to the FEC.
> >
> > You do realize that both parties play dirty,
> don't
> > you? R's slash tires on "get out the vote"
> vans,
> > D's try to suppress absentee ballots from
> overseas
> > troops, R's get the police to have police
> > checkpoints in predominantly black areas to
> scare
> > black people from going out to vote, D's try to
> > purge registration lists, and so do R's.
> >
> > I wouldn't be surprised if some partisan
> person,
> > maybe not even connected to McCain's campaign,
> but
> > who just really wants McCain to win is
> responsible
> > for those strange, questionable donations.
> Don't
> > forget, as the newsweek articles states, these
> are
> > internet donations. And I wouldn't be
> surprised
> > if some other partisan person who wants Obama
> to
> > win has done the same, donating to McCain's
> > campaign.
> >
> > The "palestinians bought a box of Obama 08
> > shirts", don't forget. That to me sounds more
> > like a dirty trick trying to play up the McCain
> > whisper campaign that Obama is a super secret
> > sleeper cell terrorist who is going to hand the
> > country over to the muslims.
> >
> > I'd use better judgement than to just glom onto
> > any negative thing that hurts the candidate you
> > don't like.
>
> Bob, I'd use better facts to support your
> argument. It was the Democrats that slashed the
> tires of GOP gotv vans.
>
> "Five Kerry-Edwards campaign staffers, including
> the sons of two prominent Milwaukee Democrats,
> were charged Monday with the election day tire
> slashings of 25 get-out-the-vote vehicles rented
> by Republicans.
>
> Milwaukee County District Attorney E. Michael
> McCann announced the felony charges – each of
> which could result in a 3 1/2-year prison sentence
> and a $10,000 fine - in a rare news conference."
>
> Democheats have a long long history of stealing
> elections through fraud, intimidation and other
> illegal activity. Concerned voter has a reason to
> be concerned.


Wow. I love your sycophantic beliefs.

"democheats" and "liberal french" and "hater america defeatists". That's great, man, high five, dude!

I feel sorry for you that you still believe in either party, and you are a partisan fool.

If you really love your country, and want what is best to American principles, you would not vote for either party.

If you can't figure that out, I have to pity you. Maybe someday, you'll figure it out, but right now, you just don't have enough intellectual power to work it out.

Shhh. Listen. Wrote:
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> At exactly 11pm EST, open the window and face in
> the southern direction. If you're real quiet,
> you'll hear several thousand wimpering Republicans
> who have finally understood that their vote won't
> count as it's a lost cause.
>
> I'm "Shhh. Listen" and I approve this message.


LOL. Notice how quiet it is here on the GOP front? Perhaps you were right. They cried themselves to sleep and woke up in a haze.

Cheating Dems love to cheat and steal Wrote:
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> Bob, I'd use better facts to support your
> argument. It was the Democrats that slashed the
> tires of GOP gotv vans.
>
> "Five Kerry-Edwards campaign staffers, including
> the sons of two prominent Milwaukee Democrats,
> were charged Monday with the election day tire
> slashings of 25 get-out-the-vote vehicles rented
> by Republicans.
>
> Milwaukee County District Attorney E. Michael
> McCann announced the felony charges – each of
> which could result in a 3 1/2-year prison sentence
> and a $10,000 fine - in a rare news conference."
>
> Democheats have a long long history of stealing
> elections through fraud, intimidation and other
> illegal activity. Concerned voter has a reason to
> be concerned.


Tires have been getting slashed for years. It happened in 2000, and that time it was vans owned by a local democratic party, I forget where. Nobody was ever caught, so all your example proves is that the 4 democratic activists were not goot at not getting caught and whoever did it to the democrats in 2000 was better at not getting caught.

Georgia should be interesting

http://sos.georgia.gov/elections/voter_registration/GA%20VOTER%20REGISTRATION%20%20APP(Fill_2007).pdf

So to be eligible you had to register. The qualifications are:

- Be a citizen of the US
- Be a legal resident of the County
- Be at least 17 1/2 to register, and 18 to vote
- Not serving a sentence fora felony involving moral turptitude
- Not found to be mentally incompetent

Now here are the instructions:

Quote

1. LEGAL NAME. Your full legal name including any suffix such as Sr., Jr., III, is required on this form.
2. ADDRESS. Provide residential address. This information is required.
3. MAILING ADDRESS. If mailing address is different from residential address, complete the mailing address section.
4. PERSONAL INFORMATION. A telephone number is helpful to registration officials if they have a question about your application. Gender and race are requested and are needed to comply with the Voting Rights Act of 1965, but are not mandated by law.
5. VOTER IDENTIFICATION NUMBER. Federal law requires you to provide your full GA Drivers License number or GA State issued ID number. If you do not have a GA Drivers License or GA ID you must provide the last 4 digits of your Social Security number. Providing your full Social Security number is optional. Your Social Security number will be kept confidential and may be used for comparison with other state agency databases for voter registration identification purposes. If you do not possess a GA Drivers License or Social Security number please
check the appropriate box and a unique identifier will be provided for you.
6. OATH. Federal law requires that you answer the citizenship and age questions. Read the oath and sign your name. If you cannot complete this application unassisted because of physical disability or illiteracy, you must either sign or make your mark on the signature line, and the person assisting you MUST sign the signature space for person assisting voter.
7. POLL OFFICER QUESTION. Your willingness to be a poll worker will have no bearing on your application for registration.
8. NAME/ADDRESS CHANGE. Complete these sections to change the name or address of your current voter registration.
9. MAP/DIAGRAM: If you live in an area without house numbers and street names, please include a drawing of your location to assist us in locating your appropriate voting precinct.
10. DELIVERY INSTRUCTIONS: Verify that you have completed and signed the application. Enclose a copy of your ID if you are submitting this form by mail and registering for the first time in Georgia. Fold the application in half, remove the tape at the top, and press the edges together. The application is ready for you to mail (postage is prepaid) or deliver to your county voter registration office.

So, other than name and address, nothing else is required. If you don't have a driver's license in GA, or don't want to provide your SSN, they will assign you a unique ID. All you have to provide is the last 4 digits of your SSN. Note, this is a MAIL IN registration form.

Quote

5. VOTER IDENTIFICATION NUMBER. Federal law requires you to provide your full GA Drivers License number or GA State issued ID number. If you do not have a GA Drivers License or GA ID you must provide the last 4 digits of your Social Security number. Providing your full Social Security number is optional. Your Social Security number will be kept confidential and may be used for comparison with other state agency databases for voter registration identification purposes. If you do not possess a GA Drivers License or Social Security number please
check the appropriate box and a unique identifier will be provided for you.

It would be interesting to know what their verification process is, and if that information is provided to local election boards, or how it is used to process early voting ballots.

Georgia NEWLY ADDED VOTERS BY RACE AND GENDER 2004 VS 2008
http://sos.georgia.gov/elections/voter_registration/Newly_Registered_04_08.pdf

I wonder if they will put out how many registrations they disqualified.

Obama is stealing this election by getting 2 to 1 more votes from voters!

Regardless of whether they are a legal voter or not. Very good.

RV - A side order of wah to go?

Again, you deride my comment - and refuse to even acknowledge there might be a problem. So it is OK to do anything to win the election? Why would you think it is ok to let anyone vote when you can't even verify their identity? They don't even ask for a date of birth - so how do you know which particular John Q Public is voting on an early registration? Also, do you know how many TIMES that person has voted? I don't see how they can possibly verify that on early votes in this volume.

ACORN is starting to get put under the light now, and all their defenders (the SOS of Ohio comes to mind) are starting to get a bit defensive. Including you all here - you avoid the issue and just toss out meaningless BS responses when anyone points out more facts about the problem. I guess the cockroaches are running for cover on this one.

Ah yes, Murtha...

http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D93R4AS82&show_article=1

Quote

PITTSBURGH (AP) - U.S. Rep. John Murtha says his home base of western Pennsylvania is racist and that could reduce Barack Obama's victory margin in the state by 4 percentage points.

The 17-term Democratic congressman tells the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette in a story posted Wednesday on its Web site that, as he put it: "There is no question that western Pennsylvania is a racist area."

He says it's taken time for many Pennsylvania voters to come around to liking Obama, but he should still win the state, though not in a runaway.

In a separate interview posted Wednesday on the Pittsburgh Tribune-Review's Web site, Murtha says Obama has a problem with the race issue in western Pennsylvania that could shave 4 points off his lead in the state.

17 terms. What a voice of reason he is.

As expected, now Republicans are trying to call the election a complete sham.

Now that is desperate!

Look, I don't know what the hell is going on here, but I am not seeing any of these acorns you keep blabbing on and on about.

Absent term limits, would you repeat your vote for GW Bush again vs. Obama knowing what you know today. Think about that one.

But then again, what do I know? I'm just a squirrel trying to get a nut.

What are you talking about?

I am just pointing out factual issues with this, and you then pull a Vince and make it something I never said.

Speak for yourself. If you can point out why the issue I brought up is baseless I would be glad to see it. Other than some troll - which seems to be all you are good at here.

Mr. Squirrel Wrote:
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> Look, I don't know what the hell is going on here,
> but I am not seeing any of these acorns you keep
> blabbing on and on about.
>
> Absent term limits, would you repeat your vote for
> GW Bush again vs. Obama knowing what you know
> today. Think about that one.
>
> But then again, what do I know? I'm just a
> squirrel trying to get a nut.

I think you found all your nuts here already squirrel. They are over on the left.

The question on Bush vs Obama is pointless. He would have most likely acted differently in his second term if he thought he was going to have to get re-elected. Much like Obama making promises now he will probably not keep if he is elected.



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 10/15/2008 05:15PM by Registered Voter.

This is good from Texas also regarding an audit they held:
http://www.click2houston.com/download/2008/1009/17671256.pdf

Quote

Auditors compared data in the TEAM system to data obtained from the Department of Criminal Justice and the Bureau of Vital Statistics using criteria developed by the Secretary of State’s Office. As a result, auditors identified 49,049 (0.4 percent) of 12,374,114 registered voters for the May 12, 2007, special election who may have been ineligible to vote. These included the following:

- Voter records for 23,114 possible felons.
- Records for 23,576 voters who may be deceased.
- Duplicate records for 2,359 voters.

...

County voter registration offices are ultimately responsible for determining voter eligibility, which limits the Secretary of State’s Office’s ability to ensure that voter registration records are accurate and that ineligible voters are removed, as required by HAVA.

The Secretary of State’s Office does not monitor county voter registration offices that investigate potentially ineligible voters. Once potentially ineligible voters are identified by the TEAM system, the Secretary of State’s Office does not have processes to ensure that county voter registration offices investigate these voters and cancel registrations for ineligible voters in a timely manner. The Secretary of State’s Office’s policies and Texas Election Code require county voter registration offices to investigate each voter and to cancel the registrations of voters who are deemed ineligible. However, the Secretary of State’s Office does not monitor the county voter registration offices to ensure that the registrations of potentially ineligible voters are consistently investigated and resolved. The Secretary of State’s Office’s management stated that some county voter registration offices cause delays because they do not promptly investigate and resolve the registrations of potentially ineligible voters. As a result, a risk exists that voters flagged by the TEAM system as potentially ineligible could retain the ability to vote if county voter registration offices do not verify their eligibility.
...

It is amazing that we have been holding votes in this country for as many years as we have, and still the system hasn't been established that other states can model where a statewide office exists to verify voter eligibility. This applies to all voters, not any particular group.

Registered Voter Wrote:
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> Ah yes, Murtha...
>
> http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D93R4AS82&;
> show_article=1
>
>
> PITTSBURGH (AP) - U.S. Rep. John Murtha says his
> home base of western Pennsylvania is racist and
> that could reduce Barack Obama's victory margin in
> the state by 4 percentage points.
>
> The 17-term Democratic congressman tells the
> Pittsburgh Post-Gazette in a story posted
> Wednesday on its Web site that, as he put it:
> "There is no question that western Pennsylvania is
> a racist area."
>
> He says it's taken time for many Pennsylvania
> voters to come around to liking Obama, but he
> should still win the state, though not in a
> runaway.
>
> In a separate interview posted Wednesday on the
> Pittsburgh Tribune-Review's Web site, Murtha says
> Obama has a problem with the race issue in western
> Pennsylvania that could shave 4 points off his
> lead in the state.

I can vouch for this. Eastern PA is Pennsylvania. Western PA is Pennsyltucky. I was actually kind of surprised by the lack of racism when I moved to "The South".

MrMephisto Wrote:
>>> I can vouch for this. Eastern PA is Pennsylvania. Western PA is Pennsyltucky. I was actually kind of surprised by the lack of racism when I moved to "The South".

I'm from the eastern side of the state, and can vouch that Eastern PA has more than it's fair share of idiot racist rednecks. The KKK actually had rallies in the county where I grew up. But yeah, Western PA is pretty backwards. I know some people from out that way that are seemingly obsessed with saying the n-word, and think it's hilarious that I live down here and have friends from foreign countries that I don't refer to as some kind of ethnic slur. Parts of PA are more "southern" than NoVA, it's pretty scary.

I went to high school with a guy that drove a baby-shit-yellow pickup truck, jacked up an additional three feet, with two full-sized confederate flags flying off the bed of the truck.

He also showed up to school on Halloween dressed in full KKK garb, and chased the only black kid in school around the halls. When the principal stopped him, he gave the explanation, "I'm Casper, the Friendly Ghost." They both shared a laugh, and nothing was done about it.

Compared to where I'm coming from, NOVA is a utopia of tolerance and understanding.

Seattle joins the club:

http://www.kirotv.com/news/17714516/detail.html

Quote

An exclusive KIRO Team 7 Investigation discovers the state will send ballots to thousands of convicted felons in the next week, even though many can't legally vote.

The Secretary of State’s Office fired up a new multimillion-dollar computer in 2006. Its job was to catch, and then cancel, illegal voters.

Well, not all illegal voters.

KIRO-TV recently ran its own data to double check the state's work. Investigative Reporter Chris Halsne found out the system was set up to ignore the existence of approximately 24,000 convicted felons.

The State of Washington never stopped sending Tracy Wilkinson ballots in the mail, even though it appears she's not eligible to vote.

In 2002, she pleaded guilty to a felony prescription drug charge, then, according to court files, failed to pay all her fines.

A Snohomish County judge ruled "the defendant is not entitled to restoration of civil rights or discharge" - legal speak for "you can't vote!"

Wilkinson admitted to Halsne that she is a felon, but thought she could still legally vote.

Halsne: "You're a convicted felon?"

Wilkinson: "Yeah. I am. I fought it, but they said no jail. So, then, it really never bothered me because I thought, well, I'm never going to be president, so I don't care. Really. Then, when you brought up that I'm not supposed to vote, they send me my ballots. I've been voting for the last 10 years. "

An extensive computer analysis, independently conducted by KIRO Team 7 Investigators, found that Wilkinson is just one of 23,927 criminals on the active voter database.

6,812 of them are considered "very likely voters" because they already cast a ballot in other elections this year.

Unless something changes soon, every one of the felons will get a ballot for the November election, even though the state admits it has no idea if they are eligible.

Brilliant. Led by the best educated minds money can buy.

All anecdotal bull shit. Seems rather eletist to think that felons will all vote democratic anyway!



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 10/16/2008 02:03PM by Vince(1).

I don't care who they would vote for. I am one of these people that believes when you commit a felony that you should not be allowed to vote unless you petition to get your right to vote re-instated. And that should only be allowed for certain crimes if ever.

Similarly I only want citizens of the US to vote in elections. If they are not a citizen they should not be voting in national or state-wide elections. For local city/town/counties, if they want to allow non-citizens to vote, more power to them.

There are so many LEGAL, and NORMAL ways for people to register to vote - and it is a right and a privilege. If people chose not to vote, that is their loss as far as I am concerned. All BS aside, at a minimum there should be a State registration and a National registration so that you can only vote ONCE in your state for state-wide or national offices. I don't care how each state tallies and reports their the vote results, just that you vote where you live (either in person or verified absentee), and only once. It seems to me that the minimum information required for that would be a picture ID issued by the State, your name, DOB, and SSN (which all citizens should have). Not too hard to mandate that is it?

Well, this should make you all happy...

High court rejects GOP bid in Ohio voting dispute:
http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D93SBR781&show_article=1

On a technicality.

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In a brief unsigned opinion, the justices said they were not commenting on whether Ohio is complying with a provision of the Help America Vote Act of 2002 that lays out requirements for verifying voter eligibility.

Instead, they said they were granting Brunner's request because it appears that the law does not allow private entities, like the Ohio GOP, to file suit to enforce the provision of the law at issue.

Gotta love the Supreme Court cop out. This is pretty typical for them - a question is asked they don't necessarily want to answer, and they then use the "You didn't pose the question properly" argument to dismiss the entire argument.

Somehow I am guessing this issue will be brought up again by a party that is allowed to bring the suit forward. Of course now it will be too late to make any difference. Instead we will most likely get suits like the last election that will hold up certifying the results for months. Not happy about that either.

We'll see.

Hell RV..it's a republikan court..that was the kindest way they could say that the case had no basis in fact...you're familiar with that..and it seems the entire republikan party has no need for facts for anything...whether it's voting..or going to war...you all just make up the facts and charge ahead.

McCain campaign paid Republican operative accused of voter fraud


http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/us_and_americas/us_elections/article4992730.ece


Well, so much for the ACORN nonsense. McCain's really a dumbass.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 10/22/2008 03:53PM by TheMeeper.

The link didn't work, but I assume this was about the single white guy in California that was charged with registering multiple times?

hardly compares, but keep trying.

Registered Voter Wrote:
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>
> hardly compares, but keep trying.

You're right. McCain hardly compares to Obama, which is why he's winning every poll and prediction market. But keep trying.

You know, you all are the ones that keep posting the Obama stuff. I find it hilarious that when someone responds to your troll posts (I use "your" collectively) you then turn around and act like I was trying to post something in the first place. Either post something factual to respond to that actually has relevance or kindly, "Mr troll who has no name", STFU. Registering bother you that much - you think someone is going to reveal your dirty secrets? Or is it just that the only witty thing you can do is change your name to suit the continued irrelevance of your posts?

The collective stroking continues, for whatever mystery reason no one here cares to admit.

Lol.

Registered Voter Wrote:
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> You know, you all are the ones that keep posting
> the Obama stuff. I find it hilarious that when
> someone responds to your troll posts (I use "your"
> collectively) you then turn around and act like I
> was trying to post something in the first place.
> Either post something factual to respond to that
> actually has relevance or kindly, "Mr troll who
> has no name", STFU. Registering bother you that
> much - you think someone is going to reveal your
> dirty secrets? Or is it just that the only witty
> thing you can do is change your name to suit the
> continued irrelevance of your posts?
>
> The collective stroking continues, for whatever
> mystery reason no one here cares to admit.
>
> Lol.

You've registered, yet remain anonymous. What's the difference?

I post a troll post, yet you respond. That means you're a hypocrite.

I will not engage in this "collective stroking" as this seems like a code word for some act of group pedophilia that we all know Republicans like to engage in. It's well documented, I know. But please keep your fantasies to yourself. Thank you.

No, it's not about a "guy from California registering more than once". It's about the McCain campaign paying $175,000 to a man who has been accused by the government of conducting mass voter fraud. Stuff like destroying registration applications. It's dumb enough that McCain has to pal around with people who subvert democracy, but to put this guy on the McCain payroll shows terrible judgment.

The link works now.

Voter rolls stuffed with dead and absent registrants
http://www.wlbt.com/global/story.asp?s=9248483

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JACKSON, MS (WLBT) - Mississippi's voter situation is hard to believe. Places like Madison County have over 123% more registered voters than people over the age of 18.

Your post = without merit.

You just have no good answer to ACORN and false registrations that they promote. It would be interesting to do an after tally of the voters in Miss. And not to push voter suppression because that would not be the intent, but they should photograph everyone that votes, along with their ID for later analysis to see whether there is any kind of rampant fraud going on - on either side of the electorate.

I didn't fail at all. Merely pointing out inconvenient facts.

Your follow-up post = without merit and overly burdensome to my eyes.

Please go away and begin blogging on Rush Limbaugh's website. Thank you.

Yes, I will leave you your white space to self-stroke each others phallic egos.

One day. In the meantime, I will continue to terrorize you. Don't be sad.

The connection has been made.

Republicans = Registered Voter = Terrorist. Thank you for clarifying.

Exactly. Wouldn't want you to be misinformed by me - you get enough of that from your DailyKOS injections.

I guess that beats getting injected daily by your favorite rag, the Washington Blade.

Again, I don't know why you keep saying such negative things about these things you turned me on to. Did you remember to wipe this morning? You know how you hate it when you stain your pants.

Well, you told me you like it muddy. Call me a people pleaser.

All that matters is that you were happy in the morning :) But, as I said, no more, you scared me straight. I am forever in your debt. Take your 2 inch long monster elsewhere.

PS - you might want to stop calling "it" beefeater. It is hard not to break out in laughter when you say it so fondly to yourself.

Like I said in an earlier post, it's not my fault if I'm not attracted to men. The minute I walk in your bedroom, your penis starts to dance. Scary dancing too. Like some African tribal shit.

Don't Shaka My Zulu Wrote:
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> Like I said in an earlier post, it's not my fault
> if I'm not attracted to men. The minute I walk in
> your bedroom, your penis starts to dance. Scary
> dancing too. Like some African tribal shit.

I'm not gay, but I would be interested in seeing that.

RV, please make a clip and put it on YouTube.

Yes well, at least you can see mine dance around. Yours just does this little shimmy and looks a bit like chocolate covered cherry that got smashed.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 10/28/2008 12:04PM by Registered Voter.

Huh? What a weak comeback.

It's really amazing how the October before a Presidential election is the only time these registrars in largely Republican areas seem to want to flush the voter rolls.

I mean, can't they do some of this stuff in January, when it's probably a little less busy?

Consider someone in Vienna that has their address as S.W. in one database and SW in another. That's the grounds for some of these purges, such as the ones in FL and GA.

Is there like any evidence that these false voters actually attempted to vote?

I mean, it's as if ACORN doesn't try to flag suspicious-looking registration applications. Oh wait, they do.

http://oxdown.firedoglake.com/diary/1202

ACORN: Legal Latino Voter, Illegally Targeted by the GOP, Speaks Out (VIDEO)