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I just voted
Posted by: Proud Indy ()
Date: September 30, 2008 11:48AM

I just ran over to the government center and voted early. I cast my ballot for McCain/Palin, Mark Warner, Gerry Connolly and "No" on the park bonds. What was weird though was the hassle the woman gave me. She wanted to know where I was going to be on election day, when I was leaving, etc. Truth be told, I voted early to avoid the lines on election day, I will probably be in town.

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Re: I just voted
Posted by: Vince(1) ()
Date: September 30, 2008 12:07PM

What a hodge-podge of selections. You vote democratic at the state level but republikan at the top! You must be a bubba voter.

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Re: I just voted
Posted by: USA ()
Date: September 30, 2008 12:12PM

My son has already voted absentee ballot from Iraq. He also choose straight Republican ballot.

God Bless American and Those Who Defend Her.

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Re: I just voted
Posted by: yy ()
Date: September 30, 2008 12:14PM

Connolly is not good for Fairfax or Virginia.

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Re: I just voted
Posted by: Lopter ()
Date: September 30, 2008 12:18PM

First absentee voters I'm heard voting for Republicans. I know about 15 people who have voted early because they want to avoid lines at the polls. Correct you do need to give an excuse as to why you will not bebable to vote on election day.

All 15 people that I know said they have voted Obama\Biden & straight Democratic ticket because they are pissed at the economy and Iraq.

So that makes it 15 Obama 2 McCain

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Re: I just voted
Posted by: you ()
Date: September 30, 2008 12:56PM

Voting for Obama just because you are pissed at the economy and Iraq.
And you think Obama can fix it.
You are a lost soul.
You are the type who want the government to take care of you.
Sad.

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Re: I just voted
Posted by: Vince(1) ()
Date: September 30, 2008 12:57PM

USA Wrote:
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> My son has already voted absentee ballot from
> Iraq. He also choose straight Republican ballot.
>
>
> God Bless American and Those Who Defend Her.


Well.if you want him depolyed for the next 100 years..you should vote republikan too!

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Re: I just voted
Posted by: USA ()
Date: September 30, 2008 01:03PM

I am voting Republican.

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Re: I just voted
Posted by: Vince(1) ()
Date: September 30, 2008 01:16PM

Dear USA...As you sow so shall you reap

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Re: I just voted
Posted by: erik ()
Date: September 30, 2008 01:18PM

you Wrote:
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> Voting for Obama just because you are pissed at
> the economy and Iraq.
> And you think Obama can fix it.

Isn't this the whole fucking point of having elections? That's one dense statement, "you".

> You are a lost soul.
> You are the type who want the government to take
> care of you.
> Sad.

I like how you can judge the status of someone's soul. That's a pretty cool power. It's not blasphemous at all.

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Re: I just voted
Posted by: pgens ()
Date: September 30, 2008 01:26PM

It's fine to voter different parties, in fact it shows a more educated approach then just blindly voting all D's or all R's. I often vote different parties. I may want one for local issues and another for national issues... nothing wrong at all with that.

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Re: I just voted
Posted by: sphinx ()
Date: September 30, 2008 01:33PM

you Wrote:
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> Voting for Obama just because you are pissed at
> the economy and Iraq.
> And you think Obama can fix it.
> You are a lost soul.
> You are the type who want the government to take
> care of you.
> Sad.

I'd rather have the gov't take care of me then f*ck me. Damn, at least buy me dinner for the last 8yrs.

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Re: I just voted
Posted by: Proud Indy ()
Date: September 30, 2008 01:35PM

Vince(1),
I am no bubba. I value experience and judgement. Obama is not ready to lead. He may be in 4 or 8 years, and I could see myself voting for him, but he is not ready now. You may not like Bush, you may not like McCain, and these are your real reasons for voting for Obama. Deep down, you know you are voting more so AGAINST McCain rather than FOR Obama. But, please don't tell me that you think Obama is actually prepared to do the job on day 1. If you tell me that, you are either stupid or lying.

McCain doesn't electrify me, but I know what I am getting. As for my other votes, Fimian is not prepared to be in Congress and Warner was a better governor.

USA,
Thank your son for his service and may God bless him and keep him safe.

Lopter,
I have completely opposite numbers among my freinds, family and colleagues. My family in OH are early voting today and all but 1 are voting straight GOP. I work with one guy who is voting Dem, but another three went with me today to the government center all voted straight party line GOP. They gave me hell for casting the Connolly vote. They live in Wolf's district and I would've voted for him if I lived there.

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Re: I just voted
Posted by: Expensive Jeans ()
Date: September 30, 2008 01:38PM

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Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 09/30/2008 05:12PM by Expensive Jeans.

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Re: I just voted
Posted by: jhey ()
Date: September 30, 2008 01:59PM

yy Wrote:
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> Connolly is not good for Fairfax or Virginia.

Connolly is running for Tom Davis's US House seat. If he's so bad for Fairfax, you should be encouraging people to vote for him, since he'll have to vacate his Fairfax County Board Chairman position if he wins.

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Re: I just voted
Posted by: tumor ()
Date: September 30, 2008 02:02PM

Proud Indy Wrote:
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> Vince(1),
> I am no bubba. I value experience and judgement.
> Obama is not ready to lead. He may be in 4 or 8
> years, and I could see myself voting for him, but
> he is not ready now. You may not like Bush, you
> may not like McCain, and these are your real
> reasons for voting for Obama. Deep down, you know
> you are voting more so AGAINST McCain rather than
> FOR Obama. But, please don't tell me that you
> think Obama is actually prepared to do the job on
> day 1. If you tell me that, you are either stupid
> or lying.
>
> McCain doesn't electrify me, but I know what I am
> getting. As for my other votes, Fimian is not
> prepared to be in Congress and Warner was a better
> governor.


Talk about idiocy. Forget about his decisions, just that he's been there a long time. Why bother watching the debates. You can't tell me Palin was a "wise" pick.

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Re: I just voted
Posted by: Proud Indy ()
Date: September 30, 2008 02:08PM

tumor Wrote:
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> Talk about idiocy. Forget about his decisions,
> just that he's been there a long time. Why bother
> watching the debates. You can't tell me Palin was
> a "wise" pick.

tumor,
Thanks, you just proved my point. You cannot point to a single reason you are voting FOR Obama. You are simply voting AGAINST McCain. Idiocy is being an unimformed voter and it appears you fit that bill quite nicely.

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Re: I just voted
Posted by: try ()
Date: September 30, 2008 02:11PM

Posted by: jhey ()
Date: September 30, 2008 01:59PM


yy Wrote:
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> Connolly is not good for Fairfax or Virginia.

Connolly is running for Tom Davis's US House seat. If he's so bad for Fairfax, you should be encouraging people to vote for him, since he'll have to vacate his Fairfax County Board Chairman position if he win.

---That’s how your typical government worker (civil servant) thinks.

Promote the loser to try to get someone qualify in the job.

Fire the government employee’s and contract the jobs out, that way when someone is not carrying their weight; you can fire them and get the right person for the job.

There are some really hard working government workers who know what I’m talking about.

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Re: I just voted
Posted by: F*** Country.....Suburban First ()
Date: September 30, 2008 02:16PM

If Proud Indy knows what he/she was getting, then they must support McCain's well-aligned voting record with Bush. I'm voting for Obama because he's smarter than John McNugget. We saw what happens when an idiot C-student gets elected to office.

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Re: I just voted
Posted by: Lopter ()
Date: September 30, 2008 02:19PM

Proudy Indy,

So you don't care about the debates, how Palin may be President? Everybody around you voting early Republican speaks volumes about the company you keep.

You can't honestly think that McCain and Palin are qualified to make an executive decision. Their campaign has been a complete clown show.

McCain says one thing today and the opposite tomorrow FACT, Palin can barely make her mind up. In one interview she said, "Let me get back to you." The White House is chess, not tic tac toe and I'll check on that later.

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Re: I just voted
Posted by: Radiophile ()
Date: September 30, 2008 02:33PM

USA Wrote:
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> My son has already voted absentee ballot from
> Iraq. He also choose straight Republican ballot.
>
>
> God Bless American and Those Who Defend Her.


FYI - practically every one of these allegations has proved to be false. While I do respect your son's service, what is he defending?

For Immediate Release
Office of the Press Secretary
October 2, 2002

Joint Resolution to Authorize the Use of United States Armed Forces Against Iraq





Whereas in 1990 in response to Iraq's war of aggression against and illegal occupation of Kuwait, the United States forged a coalition of nations to liberate Kuwait and its people in order to defend the national security of the United States and enforce United Nations Security Council resolutions relating to Iraq;

Whereas after the liberation of Kuwait in 1991, Iraq entered into a United Nations sponsored cease-fire agreement pursuant to which Iraq unequivocally agreed, among other things, to eliminate its nuclear, biological, and chemical weapons programs and the means to deliver and develop them, and to end its support for international terrorism;

Whereas the efforts of international weapons inspectors, United States intelligence agencies, and Iraqi defectors led to the discovery that Iraq had large stockpiles of chemical weapons and a large scale biological weapons program, and that Iraq had an advanced nuclear weapons development program that was much closer to producing a nuclear weapon than intelligence reporting had previously indicated;

Whereas Iraq, in direct and flagrant violation of the cease-fire, attempted to thwart the efforts of weapons inspectors to identify and destroy Iraq's weapons of mass destruction stockpiles and development capabilities, which finally resulted in the withdrawal of inspectors from Iraq on October 31, 1998;

Whereas in 1998 Congress concluded that Iraq's continuing weapons of mass destruction programs threatened vital United States interests and international peace and security, declared Iraq to be in "material and unacceptable breach of its international obligations" and urged the President "to take appropriate action, in accordance with the Constitution and relevant laws of the United States, to bring Iraq into compliance with its international obligations" (Public Law 105-235);

Whereas Iraq both poses a continuing threat to the national security of the United States and international peace and security in the Persian Gulf region and remains in material and unacceptable breach of its international obligations by, among other things, continuing to possess and develop a significant chemical and biological weapons capability, actively seeking a nuclear weapons capability, and supporting and harboring terrorist organizations;

Whereas Iraq persists in violating resolutions of the United Nations Security Council by continuing to engage in brutal repression of its civilian population thereby threatening international peace and security in the region, by refusing to release, repatriate, or account for non-Iraqi citizens wrongfully detained by Iraq, including an American serviceman, and by failing to return property wrongfully seized by Iraq from Kuwait;

Whereas the current Iraqi regime has demonstrated its capability and willingness to use weapons of mass destruction against other nations and its own people;

Whereas the current Iraqi regime has demonstrated its continuing hostility toward, and willingness to attack, the United States, including by attempting in 1993 to assassinate former President Bush and by firing on many thousands of occasions on United States and Coalition Armed Forces engaged in enforcing the resolutions of the United Nations Security Council;

Whereas members of al Qaida, an organization bearing responsibility for attacks on the United States, its citizens, and interests, including the attacks that occurred on September 11, 2001, are known to be in Iraq;

Whereas Iraq continues to aid and harbor other international terrorist organizations, including organizations that threaten the lives and safety of American citizens;

Whereas the attacks on the United States of September 11, 2001 underscored the gravity of the threat posed by the acquisition of weapons of mass destruction by international terrorist organizations;

Whereas Iraq's demonstrated capability and willingness to use weapons of mass destruction, the risk that the current Iraqi regime will either employ those weapons to launch a surprise attack against the United States or its Armed Forces or provide them to international terrorists who would do so, and the extreme magnitude of harm that would result to the United States and its citizens from such an attack, combine to justify action by the United States to defend itself;

Whereas United Nations Security Council Resolution 678 authorizes the use of all necessary means to enforce United Nations Security Council Resolution 660 and subsequent relevant resolutions and to compel Iraq to cease certain activities that threaten international peace and security, including the development of weapons of mass destruction and refusal or obstruction of United Nations weapons inspections in violation of United Nations Security Council Resolution 687, repression of its civilian population in violation of United Nations Security Council Resolution 688, and threatening its neighbors or United Nations operations in Iraq in violation of United Nations Security Council Resolution 949;

Whereas Congress in the Authorization for Use of Military Force Against Iraq Resolution (Public Law 102-1) has authorized the President "to use United States Armed Forces pursuant to United Nations Security Council Resolution 678 (1990) in order to achieve implementation of Security Council Resolutions 660, 661, 662, 664, 665, 666, 667, 669, 670, 674, and 677";

Whereas in December 1991, Congress expressed its sense that it "supports the use of all necessary means to achieve the goals of United Nations Security Council Resolution 687 as being consistent with the Authorization of Use of Military Force Against Iraq Resolution (Public Law 102-1)," that Iraq's repression of its civilian population violates United Nations Security Council Resolution 688 and "constitutes a continuing threat to the peace, security, and stability of the Persian Gulf region," and that Congress, "supports the use of all necessary means to achieve the goals of United Nations Security Council Resolution 688";

Whereas the Iraq Liberation Act (Public Law 105-338) expressed the sense of Congress that it should be the policy of the United States to support efforts to remove from power the current Iraqi regime and promote the emergence of a democratic government to replace that regime;

Whereas on September 12, 2002, President Bush committed the United States to "work with the United Nations Security Council to meet our common challenge" posed by Iraq and to "work for the necessary resolutions," while also making clear that "the Security Council resolutions will be enforced, and the just demands of peace and security will be met, or action will be unavoidable";

Whereas the United States is determined to prosecute the war on terrorism and Iraq's ongoing support for international terrorist groups combined with its development of weapons of mass destruction in direct violation of its obligations under the 1991 cease-fire and other United Nations Security Council resolutions make clear that it is in the national security interests of the United States and in furtherance of the war on terrorism that all relevant United Nations Security Council resolutions be enforced, including through the use of force if necessary;

Whereas Congress has taken steps to pursue vigorously the war on terrorism through the provision of authorities and funding requested by the President to take the necessary actions against international terrorists and terrorist organizations, including those nations, organizations or persons who planned, authorized, committed or aided the terrorist attacks that occurred on September 11, 2001 or harbored such persons or organizations;

Whereas the President and Congress are determined to continue to take all appropriate actions against international terrorists and terrorist organizations, including those nations, organizations or persons who planned, authorized, committed or aided the terrorist attacks that occurred on September 11, 2001, or harbored such persons or organizations;

Whereas the President has authority under the Constitution to take action in order to deter and prevent acts of international terrorism against the United States, as Congress recognized in the joint resolution on Authorization for Use of Military Force (Public Law 107-40); and

Whereas it is in the national security of the United States to restore international peace and security to the Persian Gulf region;

Now, therefore, be it resolved by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled,

SEC. 1. SHORT TITLE.

This joint resolution may be cited as the "Authorization for the Use of Military Force Against Iraq".

SEC. 2. SUPPORT FOR UNITED STATES DIPLOMATIC EFFORTS

The Congress of the United States supports the efforts by the President to--

(a) strictly enforce through the United Nations Security Council all relevant Security Council resolutions applicable to Iraq and encourages him in those efforts; and

(b) obtain prompt and decisive action by the Security Council to ensure that Iraq abandons its strategy of delay, evasion and noncompliance and promptly and strictly complies with all relevant Security Council resolutions.

SEC. 3. AUTHORIZATION FOR USE OF UNITED STATES ARMED FORCES.

(a) AUTHORIZATION. The President is authorized to use the Armed Forces of the United States as he determines to be necessary and appropriate in order to


(1) defend the national security of the United States against the continuing threat posed by Iraq; and
(2) enforce all relevant United Nations Security Council Resolutions regarding Iraq.

(b) PRESIDENTIAL DETERMINATION.

In connection with the exercise of the authority granted in subsection (a) to use force the President shall, prior to such exercise or as soon there after as may be feasible, but no later than 48 hours after exercising such authority, make available to the Speaker of the House of Representatives and the President pro tempore of the Senate his determination that

(1) reliance by the United States on further diplomatic or other peaceful means alone either (A) will not adequately protect the national security of the United States against the continuing threat posed by Iraq or (B) is not likely to lead to enforcement of all relevant United Nations Security Council resolutions regarding Iraq, and

(2) acting pursuant to this resolution is consistent with the United States and other countries continuing to take the necessary actions against international terrorists and terrorist organizations, including those nations, organizations or persons who planned, authorized, committed or aided the terrorists attacks that occurred on September 11, 2001.

(c) WAR POWERS RESOLUTION REQUIREMENTS. --


(1) SPECIFIC STATUTORY AUTHORIZATION. -- Consistent with section 8(a)(1) of the War Powers Resolution, the Congress declares that this section is intended to constitute specific statutory authorization within the meaning of section 5(b) of the War Powers Resolution.
(2) APPLICABILITY OF OTHER REQUIREMENTS. -- Nothing in this resolution supersedes any requirement of the War Powers Resolution.

SEC. 4. REPORTS TO CONGRESS

(a) The President shall, at least once every 60 days, submit to the Congress a report on matters relevant to this joint resolution, including actions taken pursuant to the exercise of authority granted in section 2 and the status of planning for efforts that are expected to be required after such actions are completed, including those actions described in section 7 of Public Law 105-338 (the Iraq Liberation Act of 1998).

(b) To the extent that the submission of any report described in subsection (a) coincides with the submission of any other report on matters relevant to this joint resolution otherwise required to be submitted to Congress pursuant to the reporting requirements of Public Law 93-148 (the War Powers Resolution), all such reports may be submitted as a single consolidated report to the Congress.

(c) To the extent that the information required by section 3 of Public Law 102-1 is included in the report required by this section, such report shall be considered as meeting the requirements of section 3 of Public Law 102-1.

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Re: I just voted
Posted by: tumor ()
Date: September 30, 2008 02:34PM

Proud Indy Wrote:

>
> tumor,
> Thanks, you just proved my point. You cannot
> point to a single reason you are voting FOR Obama.
> You are simply voting AGAINST McCain. Idiocy is
> being an unimformed voter and it appears you fit
> that bill quite nicely.


Here's one: He actually picked a VP that could take over the presidency if called upon.

Here's another: He's mobilized the most successful call-to-vote/donation campaign in HISTORY.

More: Has sufficiently impressed enough people in the US (over the course of almost 2yrs) to beat out a slew of very talented candidates (biden/clinton/richardson/etc) to win the Democratic nomination.

Hell, give me one thing Bush has done to qualify him to serve as president (forget about McCain).

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Re: I just voted
Posted by: Proud Indy ()
Date: September 30, 2008 02:47PM

Lopter Wrote:
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> Proudy Indy,
>
> So you don't care about the debates, how Palin may
> be President? Everybody around you voting early
> Republican speaks volumes about the company you
> keep.
>
> You can't honestly think that McCain and Palin are
> qualified to make an executive decision. Their
> campaign has been a complete clown show.
>
> McCain says one thing today and the opposite
> tomorrow FACT, Palin can barely make her mind up.
> In one interview she said, "Let me get back to
> you." The White House is chess, not tic tac toe
> and I'll check on that later.

Lopter,
No, I don't really care about the debates. My mind was made up after the conventions. Do you care about the debates? Are you telling me your mind is not made up and the debates may change the way you vote? It sounds as if your mind is made up, so the debates are pretty meaningless to you as well. I doubt the debates will pull you off your Obama vote.

Your childish personal attacks about the company I keep indicates that you have no real argument to make and simply decided to make ad hominem attacks. I suppose in your next post you will compare me to Hitler. For what it is worth, I know and am friends with many ardent liberals. They are just not early voting.

I believe that McCain is more qualified and has exercised better judgment than Barack Obama has. A comparative analysis of plans and ideas as well as conversations with supporters of both candidates lead me to my vote. I am not going to say I agree with McCain 100% or disagree with Obama 100%. I agreed with McCain on more issues of greater importance to me. As I said before, Obama may be ready in a few years, just not today.

Obama's campaign is nothing to write home about either. If you think it is run well, you have serious blinders on. In a year when the Democrats should be winning in landslides from coast to coast, Obama has taken too long to generate any traction. Why is that? Is it the man or his ideas? I think it is both.

Again, you, and many like you, can only go negative about McCain. I have yet to find an Obama supporter explain to me why they are voting FOR him. I had kept a pretty open mind up to the conventions. But, honestly, the thing that sealed the deal was the fact that whenever I talked to an Obama supporter they immediately go negative on McCain without even attempting to sing the praises of their own candidate. It tells me that the absolute hate in these people is at an all time high and/or that there is nothing positive to say about Obama. If he wanted my vote, he needed to have hsi surrogates do more than rattle off words like McSame, 4 more years of Bush, etc. Look it is easy to spell out all of the shortcomings of Obama and Biden. There are hundreds of posts devoted to that on this site. There are hundreds more devoted to trashing McCain and Palin. What is interesting though is how few, if any, of you even know what your candidate stands for and why you are voting FOR him.

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Re: I just voted
Posted by: what ()
Date: September 30, 2008 02:48PM

He didn't beat Hillary. They didn't count all the states that voted.

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Re: I just voted
Posted by: Lopter ()
Date: September 30, 2008 02:52PM

Proud Indy wrote:

"I had kept a pretty open mind up to the conventions. But, honestly, the thing that sealed the deal was the fact that whenever I talked to an Obama supporter they immediately go negative on McCain without even attempting to sing the praises of their own candidate."



Glad to hear you are voting based on the current issues facing the US.

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Re: I just voted
Posted by: richerrich ()
Date: September 30, 2008 02:55PM

Lopter Wrote:
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> Proud Indy wrote:
>
> "I had kept a pretty open mind up to the
> conventions. But, honestly, the thing that sealed
> the deal was the fact that whenever I talked to an
> Obama supporter they immediately go negative on
> McCain without even attempting to sing the praises
> of their own candidate."
>
>
>
> Glad to hear you are voting based on the current
> issues facing the US.

He would have voted against the bailout because Pelosi was too negative in her speech.

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Re: I just voted
Posted by: Proud Indy ()
Date: September 30, 2008 03:07PM

Lopter Wrote:
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> Proud Indy wrote:
>
> "I had kept a pretty open mind up to the
> conventions. But, honestly, the thing that sealed
> the deal was the fact that whenever I talked to an
> Obama supporter they immediately go negative on
> McCain without even attempting to sing the praises
> of their own candidate."
>
>
>
> Glad to hear you are voting based on the current
> issues facing the US.

I am, what has happened in the 5 hours since I voted that would change my mind. Again, are you telling me that your vote is uncertain? Your combative style here indicates you probably have some connection to the campaign. You completely ignored the rest of my statement and focused on one sentence to support your attack line. It is very similar to most Obama surrogates I have come across. A complete distortion of my statement will not win you any credibility points. With every post you make, you are completely proving my point - Obama supporters only know how to go negative. Look, I'll be fine no matter who wins, I am not a rabid McCain supporter, so if you think you are really getting to me by continually bashing McCain you're not. The only thing you are accomplishing by that is looking pretty childish and stupid.

In case you missed it, I wrote above: "A comparative analysis of plans and ideas as well as conversations with supporters of both candidates lead me to my vote. I am not going to say I agree with McCain 100% or disagree with Obama 100%. I agreed with McCain on more issues of greater importance to me. As I said before, Obama may be ready in a few years, just not today."

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Re: I just voted
Posted by: forgone ()
Date: September 30, 2008 04:58PM

Proud Indy Wrote:
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> Lopter Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Proud Indy wrote:
> >
> > "I had kept a pretty open mind up to the
> > conventions. But, honestly, the thing that
> sealed
> > the deal was the fact that whenever I talked to
> an
> > Obama supporter they immediately go negative on
> > McCain without even attempting to sing the
> praises
> > of their own candidate."
> >
> >
> >
> > Glad to hear you are voting based on the
> current
> > issues facing the US.
>
> I am, what has happened in the 5 hours since I
> voted that would change my mind. Again, are you
> telling me that your vote is uncertain? Your
> combative style here indicates you probably have
> some connection to the campaign. You completely
> ignored the rest of my statement and focused on
> one sentence to support your attack line. It is
> very similar to most Obama surrogates I have come
> across. A complete distortion of my statement
> will not win you any credibility points. With
> every post you make, you are completely proving my
> point - Obama supporters only know how to go
> negative. Look, I'll be fine no matter who wins,
> I am not a rabid McCain supporter, so if you think
> you are really getting to me by continually
> bashing McCain you're not. The only thing you are
> accomplishing by that is looking pretty childish
> and stupid.
>
> In case you missed it, I wrote above: "A
> comparative analysis of plans and ideas as well as
> conversations with supporters of both candidates
> lead me to my vote. I am not going to say I agree
> with McCain 100% or disagree with Obama 100%. I
> agreed with McCain on more issues of greater
> importance to me. As I said before, Obama may be
> ready in a few years, just not today."


Actually, the thing I'm pissed off about is people not using their heads in an election. To wit: GW. How this guy won 2x is beyond my comprehension. I actually liked McCain before this election. He's proven every bit capable of caving into his party to win votes. Speaking of negative, go back to his first several tv ads; they were all negative.

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Re: I just voted
Posted by: I just sharted ()
Date: September 30, 2008 05:21PM

...and the debate was equally as negative.

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Re: I just voted
Posted by: dgriff ()
Date: September 30, 2008 05:34PM

Barak Obama is all talk. If he is elected, he will hurt the middle class, not help them. The lesser of the two evils is McCain. I would vote for Marion Barry before I vote for Obama.

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Re: I just voted
Posted by: Radiophile ()
Date: September 30, 2008 05:46PM

Do I need to remind you?

Yes, I believe I do.
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Re: I just voted
Posted by: Radiophile ()
Date: September 30, 2008 05:54PM

dgriff Wrote:
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> Barak Obama is all talk. If he is elected, he
> will hurt the middle class, not help them. The
> lesser of the two evils is McCain. I would vote
> for Marion Barry before I vote for Obama.


GWB hurt the middle class in more ways than can be counted. Did you hear about his presidentioal Library. It will employ 3 full time historians who will defend the Bush policies and actions. Historians re-writing history - it has been done before, but not so blatantly to my knowledge.

And waht is the Marion Barry comment? Does the former Mayor and Obama have a relationship? Have they been photogroaphed together?

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Re: I just voted
Posted by: rated ()
Date: September 30, 2008 06:13PM

dgriff Wrote:
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> Barak Obama is all talk. If he is elected, he
> will hurt the middle class, not help them. The
> lesser of the two evils is McCain. I would vote
> for Marion Barry before I vote for Obama.


Speaking of empty rhetoric.

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Re: I just voted
Posted by: Registered Voter ()
Date: September 30, 2008 07:11PM

forgone Wrote:

> Actually, the thing I'm pissed off about is people
> not using their heads in an election. To wit: GW.
> How this guy won 2x is beyond my comprehension.
> I actually liked McCain before this election.
> He's proven every bit capable of caving into his
> party to win votes. Speaking of negative, go back
> to his first several tv ads; they were all
> negative.

Goes hand in hand as to why Marion Barry won over and over again as Mayor of DC. Made no sense, he was corrupt as a they come and a heavy drug user.

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Re: I just voted
Posted by: Vince(1) ()
Date: September 30, 2008 07:17PM

well now...finally we have Bush/McSame pegged right in their influence and legacy....right up there with Marion Barry!! By the way...finally we agree on something...Bush..McSame...Barry...birds of the same flock together!



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 09/30/2008 07:19PM by Vince(1).

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Re: I just voted
Posted by: Registered Voter ()
Date: September 30, 2008 07:22PM

Vince, really.. if you are so sure of winning, why do you keep coming back here to post? Need to feel like you are relevant or something? Not happening here.

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Re: I just voted
Posted by: Vince(1) ()
Date: September 30, 2008 07:25PM

Like I give a f..k what a dreg like you thinks or says!

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Re: I just voted
Posted by: Registered Voter ()
Date: September 30, 2008 07:26PM

Obviously you do lol. You make a point of making a point.

Pretty funny.

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Re: I just voted
Posted by: Vince(1) ()
Date: September 30, 2008 07:32PM

yeah...it is funny...I mean you are funny...all I want you to do is to go away...short of that...i could give a damn.

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Re: I just voted
Posted by: forgone ()
Date: September 30, 2008 07:55PM

Registered Voter Wrote:
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> forgone Wrote:
>
> > Actually, the thing I'm pissed off about is
> people
> > not using their heads in an election. To wit:
> GW.
> > How this guy won 2x is beyond my comprehension.
>
> > I actually liked McCain before this election.
> > He's proven every bit capable of caving into
> his
> > party to win votes. Speaking of negative, go
> back
> > to his first several tv ads; they were all
> > negative.
>
> Goes hand in hand as to why Marion Barry won over
> and over again as Mayor of DC. Made no sense, he
> was corrupt as a they come and a heavy drug user.

Amen. This country can do some stupid s*it some times

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Re: I just voted
Posted by: formerhick76 ()
Date: September 30, 2008 10:04PM

I remember the Washington Times and other conservative sources all but predicting a second Depression in 1993 after Clinton's win and the passage of that tax increase. I also remember them predicting a massive spike in unemployment in 1996 after the minimum wage hike.

Neither happened. That, and growing annoyance at those who are pro-life from the moment of conception to the moment of birth (my wife calls them pro-birth and not pro-life), has led me to where I am today, a fairly solid Democrat.

But, under Bush, I have seen wages stagnate, income distributions become more skewed, and employment stagnate (more jobs were created during Carter's FOUR years than Bush's EIGHT years.)

I have seen the SAME people who complained about military overstretch in the 1990s gleefully embrace wars of choice against Iraq and (potentially) Iran that have surely overtaxed our military forces many times more than Clinton.

From what I've heard, there are those in their 40s that saw Carter failure and Reagan success -- they are Republicans for much the same reason.

Democratic Presidents have overseen higher GDP growth, higher wage growth among ALL socio-economic classes, and a more balanced budget.

In the absence of complete incompetence a la Carter 1980, anyone who makes less than $200,000 a year that votes Republican is akin to a chicken voting for Colonel Sanders.

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Re: I just voted
Posted by: Bob ()
Date: October 01, 2008 03:45AM

USA Wrote:
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> My son has already voted absentee ballot from
> Iraq. He also choose straight Republican ballot.
>
>
> God Bless American and Those Who Defend Her.


Yeah, I know. How dare thos people who don't love america vote democrat. I think we should not only boycott France, but we should boycott anyone who doesn't agree with the party in power! All HAIL THE PARTY!

I wish you could understand why I pity you, "usa". I'm sure you don't, I'm sure you think I'm anti-american. But then again, your children are the ones that are going to be paying for this bailout, and you are probably totally baffled about how it could happen, unless you've been watching a certain news channel, in which case you think it's Clinton's fault, from 16 years ago, even though your hero has been so powerful and protecting us from harm for the past 7 years.

"usa", if you have the intellectually honesty to want to know the truth, look up "cognitive dissonance".

Man, I pity you. You don't know how lost you really are.

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Re: I just voted
Posted by: Registered Voter ()
Date: October 02, 2008 01:01PM

Cognitive Dissonance..
http://www.answers.com/topic/cognitive-dissonance

Now we have the Obama Channel. This speaks all on its own...
http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/1008/The_Obama_channel.html

Then we have the glory children...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0LsrtppY2Dc

With these kinds of actions, it makes it hard to believe how this get's rationalized as "normal". The kids in particular are very disturbing to watch - the way folks are adulating over Obama is really very scary.

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Re: I just voted
Posted by: Certified Genius ()
Date: October 02, 2008 01:33PM

So here's what we're working with:

McCain - Old and unpredictable. If he gets elected, the vast majority of the world who understands our politics as much as we understand theirs will say, "great, another republican." So, no progress made on the "tarnished image" front. He's going to continue the War on Terrrrrr, and being a self-proclaimed maverick, he will probably end up bombing the shit out of yet another country of pissed-off muslims, hastening the process of the Middle East banding together against America and Israel (on principle). Venezuala, Russia, China, and North Korea stroke themselves lewdly and provide weapons and support to capitalize on the shift of power. France surrenders immediately. We are fucked.

Palin - Living, breathing, 100%, scientific fact that Americans are total idiots. She governed ALASKA, and kept herself busy passing legislation to help her husband snow machine race, hunting moose, and making sure the polar bears don't kill all the snow, or whatever the fuck goes on in Alaska. But, she's a total MILF, so who cares about the fact that we would be one bad flu away from having an inexperienced, bible-thumping female president that thinks abortion is wrong even in cases of rape and incest, and would probably view things like stem-cell research as blasphemous? She's hot!

Obama - A country that still thinks gay marriage is wrong is going to elect a (half) black president? If he was white, I would say he'd have it clinched, but don't underestimate the ignorance of the American people. The fact that there are still people that flinch over his middle name should be indicative of something. His message of change is really the same tired message that John Kerry so uneloquently pushed: "You should vote for me, because voting Republican is like voting for George Bush again, and as you can plainly see with your intelligent, well-informed eyes, I am not George Bush, and will do really good because he did really bad, and I am not George Bush, which is why you should vote for me."

Biden - Who? I guess he did some stuff in Congress, and then did some other stuff, then got chosen as vice president as a response to the whole "inexperienced" thing they keep saying about Obama. I hear he's got a great singing voice, though.

Basically, we are fucked either way. A new republican will continue business as usual, and a new democrat won't be able to wave a wand and fix everything in a week the way people seem to think he will. Remember how excited everyone was when democrats took the majority in congress? Remember how they still haven't got shit done?

Besides, all of this voting nonsense is pointless. The people don't elect the president, the electoral college does, and last time I checked, they can vote for whoever they feel like, to hell with the popular vote. In fact, one person in the electoral college offered to sell his vote to whoever donated money to some charity he was involved in.

So on election day, write in Mickey Mouse, because he's probably the most qualified to run the country at this point. Plus, Donald Duck as Secretary of Defense would be AWESOME.

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Re: I just voted
Posted by: BUND DEUTSCHER MÄDEL ()
Date: October 02, 2008 01:37PM

Registered Voter Wrote:
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> With these kinds of actions, it makes it hard to
> believe how this get's rationalized as "normal".
> The kids in particular are very disturbing to
> watch - the way folks are adulating over Obama is
> really very scary.

I thought I had seen that video somewhere before, and I did! Here it is --

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x_wMYqgG378&feature=related

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Re: I just voted
Posted by: Far-FAG-nugen ()
Date: October 02, 2008 02:12PM

That's similar to the yee-haws in Alabama and other deep south state riding around with confederate flags. As if McSame or any other Republican will overturn the outcome of the civil war.

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Re: I just voted
Posted by: Heil Obama ()
Date: October 02, 2008 02:17PM

Far-FAG-nugen Wrote:
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> That's similar to the yee-haws in Alabama and
> other deep south state riding around with
> confederate flags. As if McSame or any other
> Republican will overturn the outcome of the civil
> war.

Exactly, but the goals of the Hitler, I mean Obama youth through their own brand of national socialism is pretty f-ing frightening.

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Re: I just voted
Posted by: Das Boot ()
Date: October 02, 2008 03:29PM

You're scared. It's ok. Break out your binky and blanket and I'll read you to sleep. How does the Constitution sound? No? You'd rather go with something simple, like Dr. Suess. I guess we understand.

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