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A plea for McCain to drop out
Posted by: eiffle ()
Date: September 29, 2008 04:59PM

Given the market, it's time for the country to Unite. By many accounts, Obama will sweep the presidency in some 35+ days. It's time for McCain to throw in the towel and clear away the uncertainty that's currently adding to the jitters of the market. This will propel his "country before politics" byline like nothing else.

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Re: A plea for McCain to drop out
Posted by: just curious ()
Date: September 29, 2008 05:54PM

So what will happen when some 22 yo Alabama guy with no brains decides that he doesnt want a black president? Not that I am supporing McCan but lets not forget the aftermath after Martin Luther Kind got killed.

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Re: A plea for McCain to drop out
Posted by: Registered Voter ()
Date: September 29, 2008 05:55PM

That isn't even worth joking about. We all better hope that if Obama gets elected that never happens.

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Re: A plea for McCain to drop out
Posted by: allivant ()
Date: September 29, 2008 07:26PM

as i see it, we're screwed either way

vaburbia.com

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Re: A plea for McCain to drop out
Posted by: Jester ()
Date: September 29, 2008 07:48PM

Registered Voter Wrote:
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> That isn't even worth joking about. We all better
> hope that if Obama gets elected that never
> happens.


If Obama gets elected? McCain and Palin have already set the stage for Obama getting elected. McCain has totally screwed the Republican party!

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Re: A plea for McCain to drop out
Posted by: TJ ()
Date: September 29, 2008 08:35PM

eiffle Wrote:
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> Given the market, it's time for the country to
> Unite. By many accounts, Obama will sweep the
> presidency in some 35+ days. It's time for McCain
> to throw in the towel and clear away the
> uncertainty that's currently adding to the jitters
> of the market. This will propel his "country
> before politics" byline like nothing else.


In your wildest imagination. I take it you're about 15 years old and
haven't been through many elections. If you think McCain is going to
drop out, I have a bridge for sale. When you say, "Given the market,
it's time for the country to Unite" it makes me think you may have
slept through HS Government.

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Re: A plea for McCain to drop out
Posted by: tormek ()
Date: September 29, 2008 09:38PM

TJ Wrote:
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>
> In your wildest imagination. I take it you're
> about 15 years old and
> haven't been through many elections. If you think
> McCain is going to
> drop out, I have a bridge for sale. When you say,
> "Given the market,
> it's time for the country to Unite" it makes me
> think you may have
> slept through HS Government.

I take it you're about 95 and on the verge of senility to understand that s/he is a troll. Stay off the computer gramps.

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Re: A plea for McCain to drop out
Posted by: Bob ()
Date: September 29, 2008 10:33PM

TJ Wrote:
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> In your wildest imagination. I take it you're
> about 15 years old and
> haven't been through many elections. If you think
> McCain is going to
> drop out, I have a bridge for sale. When you say,
> "Given the market,
> it's time for the country to Unite" it makes me
> think you may have
> slept through HS Government.

They still teach Government class in High School? It must be an elective, or something, if they still even offer it.

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Re: A plea for McCain to drop out
Posted by: Bob ()
Date: September 29, 2008 10:36PM

just curious Wrote:
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> So what will happen when some 22 yo Alabama guy
> with no brains decides that he doesnt want a black
> president? Not that I am supporing McCan but lets
> not forget the aftermath after Martin Luther Kind
> got killed.


I know a lot of people are using the excuse that "some other racist" will assassinate Obama, and then there will be riots, as an excuse to not vote for Obama.

But have you ever seen a Presidential motorcade and the secret service detail? The chances of Obama being assassinated are less than you or I being the victim of any sort of violent crime. It just isn't going to happen.

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Re: A plea for McCain to drop out
Posted by: SS ()
Date: September 29, 2008 10:48PM

People seem to think that Obama won the nomination by a land slide.
If they would have counted the two states that voted early. Hillary may have been the candidate running for Pres.

Do you think all the Hillary fans are going to vote for Obama?


Hell No!

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Re: A plea for McCain to drop out
Posted by: Bob ()
Date: September 29, 2008 11:01PM

SS Wrote:
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> People seem to think that Obama won the nomination
> by a land slide.
> If they would have counted the two states that
> voted early. Hillary may have been the candidate
> running for Pres.
>
> Do you think all the Hillary fans are going to
> vote for Obama?
>
>
> Hell No!


I understand the radicalized ultra-right gets worked up by watching Fox News, but where do the Hillary supporters who would actually vote for McCain because Hillary didn't win the nomination get their ideological message from? I haven't seen any media outlet that fills Hillary supporters with hyperbole, vitriol and hatred like Fox News does for the neocon supporters.

I'm pretty sure most Hillary supporters are going to vote for Obama, unless for some reason they actually agree more with McCain's positions.

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Re: A plea for McCain to drop out
Posted by: Saw Hillary Speak today ()
Date: September 29, 2008 11:05PM

no mention of Obama

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Re: A plea for McCain to drop out
Posted by: Jester ()
Date: September 29, 2008 11:35PM

Originally some women Hillary supporters I know were thinking about voting for Palin, but not now after the interviews. They think she is an embarrassment and are going to vote for Obama.

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Re: A plea for McCain to drop out
Posted by: Carley ()
Date: September 30, 2008 12:01AM

Jester - The Republican party has "screwed" themselves - McCain did not do it - Palin hasn't done it. They are a bunch of Greedy white men that can only think about how everything is supposed to revolve around them. By not voting for the bill today, they have even screwed the American people more! Shame on them and on anyone that choses to vote for the Republican party....The Republican Party lost sight of what it was to be a Republican a long time ago! (FYI I am a registered Republican)

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Re: A plea for McCain to drop out
Posted by: Bob ()
Date: September 30, 2008 12:16AM

Carley Wrote:
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> Jester - The Republican party has "screwed"
> themselves - McCain did not do it - Palin hasn't
> done it. They are a bunch of Greedy white men
> that can only think about how everything is
> supposed to revolve around them. By not voting
> for the bill today, they have even screwed the
> American people more! Shame on them and on anyone
> that choses to vote for the Republican
> party....The Republican Party lost sight of what
> it was to be a Republican a long time ago! (FYI I
> am a registered Republican)


Me too. Well, since there's no actual "registration", I am a republican because I've voted republican since I was able to vote, up to 2004 when I just chose to stay home, and because I was active in Tom Davis's campaigns.

The problem with the Republican Party is not that Republicans have lost sight of what it is to be a republican, it is because they have allowed the Neoconservatives to take over and drive the party.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neoconservatism

"The term neoconservative was originally used as a criticism against liberals who had "moved to the right".[1][2] Michael Harrington, a democratic socialist, coined the usage of neoconservative in a 1973 Dissent magazine article concerning welfare policy.[3] According to E. J. Dionne, the nascent neoconservatives were driven by "the notion that liberalism" had failed and "no longer knew what it was talking about."[4]

The first major neoconservative to embrace the term and considered its founder is Irving Kristol, an American Jew from an orthodox Jewish family,[5] and father of William Kristol who became the founder of the neoconservative Project for the New American Century. Irving Kristol had been an active supporter of Trotskyism, but wrote of his neoconservative views in the 1979 article "Confessions of a True, Self-Confessed 'Neoconservative.'"[1] Kristol's ideas had been influential since the 1950s, when he co-founded and edited Encounter magazine.[6] Another source was Norman Podhoretz, editor of Commentary magazine from 1960 to 1995. By 1982 Podhoretz was calling himself a neoconservative, in a New York Times Magazine article titled "The Neoconservative Anguish over Reagan's Foreign Policy".[7][8] The Reagan Doctrine was considered anti-Communist and in opposition to Soviet Union global influence and considered central to American foreign policy until the end of the Cold War, shortly before Bill Clinton became president of the United States. Neoconservative influence on American foreign policy later became central with the Bush Doctrine.

Prominent neoconservative periodicals are Commentary and The Weekly Standard. Neoconservatives are associated with foreign policy initiatives of think tanks such as the American Enterprise Institute (AEI), the Project for the New American Century (PNAC), The Heritage Foundation, and the Jewish Institute for National Security Affairs (JINSA)."

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Re: A plea for McCain to drop out
Posted by: Bonfire ()
Date: October 01, 2008 09:08AM

I understand this is a free forum and there is a right to free speech there Bob, However,, I would refrain from using words such as "assassinate" when we are this close to an election or really,,, anytime when talking about Presidential Hopefuls of any sort. Not a sermon, Just a thought

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Re: A plea for McCain to drop out
Posted by: Bob ()
Date: October 02, 2008 12:13AM

Bonfire Wrote:
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> I understand this is a free forum and there is a
> right to free speech there Bob, However,, I would
> refrain from using words such as "assassinate"
> when we are this close to an election or really,,,
> anytime when talking about Presidential Hopefuls
> of any sort. Not a sermon, Just a thought


"I know a lot of people are using the excuse that "some other racist" will assassinate Obama, and then there will be riots, as an excuse to not vote for Obama.

But have you ever seen a Presidential motorcade and the secret service detail? The chances of Obama being assassinated are less than you or I being the victim of any sort of violent crime. It just isn't going to happen."

ummm, ooookay. Obviously you have contextual difficulties.

I was talking about how UNLIKELY assassination is. In fact, knowing how well the secret service agents do their job, it is NEXT TO IMPOSSIBLE.

I doubt I'm going to get a visit from the secret service for making a statement like that. Like I said about the odds of Obama being assassinated.... It just isn't going to happen.

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