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Saturday Night Live has field day with Palin
Posted by: Lurker. ()
Date: September 15, 2008 11:19AM


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Re: Saturday Night Live has field day with Palin
Posted by: Registered Voter ()
Date: September 15, 2008 11:39AM

That was actually funny as hell. Palin was a bit overdone as a vapid uninformed woman, but Hillary was on the mark.

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Re: Saturday Night Live has field day with Palin
Posted by: Vince(1) ()
Date: September 15, 2008 12:06PM

what a surprise...I was thinking just the opposite. I think we are going to see a lot more partisanship on the part of all the major networks in this election. Between competing for ratings and realizing that even the pretense of unbiasedness doesnt pay off any longer...sides will be drawn. That will in turn call for the return of the fair and balanced on all public airways. Which in turn will hopefully kill right wing radio.

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Re: Saturday Night Live has field day with Palin
Posted by: Registered Voter ()
Date: September 15, 2008 12:44PM

Wishful thinking. At that point public TV will have to get a revamp also - and then the entertainment industry for anything that gets put on tv... slippery slope there.

Radio is not right wing - no one wants to listen to Al Franken and all those other folks evidently. Face it, the message is not something people want to listen to all day long. If NPR didn't get public funding they would have been out of business a long time ago.

There are so many other radio stations out there - people can choose to listen to music or so many other stations/topics. That fact that folks listen to talk radio does not mean it is "unfair" somehow. Change the channel.

An interesting report:
http://www.cultureandmedia.com/specialreports/2008/Fairness_Doctrine/CMI_FairnessDoctrine_Single.pdf

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1. The scarcity argument. Is conservative dominance of commercial talk radio
distorting the national debate about public policy issues?

- Americans have never enjoyed so many professional sources of news and
opinion. Americans can choose from a dozen or more daily network television
news shows, 10 separate 24/7 cable news and public affairs channels, 1,400
daily newspapers, and more than 2,200 radio stations airing news/talk

- The Internet has exponentially increased the availability of news sources.
Thanks to the Internet, Americans are no longer limited to local media. Any
St. Louis resident with a modem can read the Sacramento Bee and listen to
political talk radio stations in Washington, D.C. The World Wide Web has
pushed the number of daily news sources available well into the thousands for
anybody with Internet access, and 70 percent or more of Americans are on line.

- Only 7 percent of American adults consider radio to be their main source for
news and information. Fifty-five percent rely primarily on television news,
a ratio of nearly 8 to 1. The Newspaper Association of America says 57 percent
of American adults read a newspaper every day.

2. The censorship argument. Are Americans hearing both sides of debates about
controversial public policy issues, or are liberal voices being shut out?

- Liberal voices are well represented in talk radio, and are available to anyone
with a modem or an FM radio. Six of the top 25 commercial talk radio hosts
are liberals. The commercial Air America network, created to spread liberal
ideas, has 55 stations broadcasting over the air. Twenty-six of these stations
also stream over the Internet, as do hundreds of public radio stations.
Noncommercial public radio has more than 800 stations with a total weekly
news/talk audience of 14 million. At least 850 of the nation’s 2,200 talk stations
air mostly liberal programming.

- Radio is only one slice of the pie. Major liberal-leaning sources of news and
opinion reach a far greater audience than conservative-leaning sources.
Audience reach and circulation statistics illustrate the liberal domination of the
five major information media, two of which have no conservative sources:

> Broadcast TV news, millions/day Liberal 42.1 Conservative 0
> Top 25 newspapers, millions/day Liberal 11.7 Conservative 1.3
> Cable TV news, millions/month Liberal 182.8 Conservative 61.6
> Top talk radio, millions/week Liberal 24.5 Conservative 87.0
> Newsweeklies, millions/week Liberal 8.5 Conservative 0

3. The public interest argument. Would the Fairness Doctrine increase or reduce
discussion about public policy issues? History says speech would be curtailed.

- When the Fairness Doctrine was in effect, talk radio avoided controversial
topics. Most stations programmed only general talk and advice.

- Politicians repeatedly have used the Fairness Doctrine to chill speech. John
F. Kennedy and Lyndon Johnson both used the Fairness Doctrine to stifle
criticism, suppress the speech of political adversaries, and force radio stations
to provide free air time.

The Wiki Link:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fairness_Doctrine#cite_note-19



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 09/15/2008 12:45PM by Registered Voter.

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Re: Saturday Night Live has field day with Palin
Date: September 15, 2008 01:21PM

Registered Voter Wrote:
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> That was actually funny as hell. Palin was a bit
> overdone as a vapid uninformed woman, but Hillary
> was on the mark.


No. That's pretty much how intelligent people view Palin, because that is essentially what she said.

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Re: Saturday Night Live has field day with Palin
Posted by: Registered Voter ()
Date: September 15, 2008 01:32PM

WashingToneLocian Wrote:
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> Registered Voter Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > That was actually funny as hell. Palin was a
> bit
> > overdone as a vapid uninformed woman, but
> Hillary
> > was on the mark.
>
>
> No. That's pretty much how intelligent people view
> Palin, because that is essentially what she said.

Well, I guess you need to tell all those women out there who are suddenly backing her how unintelligent they are - 20 point swing and all that. I guess they were more intelligent when they backed Hillary? Must be something in the water.

EDIT: http://d.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20080915/capt.6f9487e7392a4f5bb8f527fcb8712b63.obama_headquarters_cx204.jpg

These people must be really inspired having this God sized mural on the wall watching over them...



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 09/15/2008 01:58PM by Registered Voter.

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Re: Saturday Night Live has field day with Palin
Posted by: Rod ()
Date: September 15, 2008 03:25PM

I believe soon many women will seek to emulate the Sarah Palin look. Already her distinctive eyeglass are being sought after I read in USA Today. She is not a pantsuit wearer which will improve the appearance of women generally.

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Re: Saturday Night Live has field day with Palin
Posted by: Registered Voter ()
Date: September 15, 2008 03:30PM

Rod Wrote:
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> I believe soon many women will seek to emulate the
> Sarah Palin look. Already her distinctive eyeglass
> are being sought after I read in USA Today. She is
> not a pantsuit wearer which will improve the
> appearance of women generally.

Neither here not there. Plenty of women that look good (or bad) in both pant suits and dresses or skirts.

She definitely is setting a new trend in glasses and hairstyle though...

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Re: Saturday Night Live has field day with Palin
Posted by: Rod ()
Date: September 15, 2008 03:38PM

A lot of women will see a woman who has a career and a family and a love life and seek to emulate.

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Re: Saturday Night Live has field day with Palin
Posted by: Jester ()
Date: September 15, 2008 04:32PM

Rod Wrote:
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> A lot of women will see a woman who has a career
> and a family and a love life and seek to emulate.

LMAO...

And we all thought that was impossible for a woman.

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Re: Saturday Night Live has field day with Palin
Posted by: Vince(1) ()
Date: September 15, 2008 10:48PM

Rod Wrote:
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> A lot of women will see a woman who has a career
> and a family and a love life and seek to emulate.


and what they will get is a women who will drive them back into their homes...in more traditional roles...barefoot and pregnant with their reproductive freedom and most birth control methods gone. The republikan party is truly genious in bait and switch politics. They nominate black members to the Supreme Court that hates blacks...and a women VP who hates women. And all in the name of progress.

There is no magic in politicians misleading a large group of the population ... impearial Japan did..Nazi Germany did it...Soviets wept when Stalin died! It happens all the time! So Amerikan women falling for Palin is perhaps just another example! The only way to counter act is education...but republikans are doing an excellent job of diverting the public away form the issues. Im afraid the debates are the last hope...but even in those..most people just hear what they are programmed to hear.

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Re: Saturday Night Live has field day with Palin
Posted by: pimes ()
Date: September 16, 2008 10:27AM

Vince(1) Wrote:
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> Rod Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > A lot of women will see a woman who has a
> career
> > and a family and a love life and seek to
> emulate.
>
>
> and what they will get is a women who will drive
> them back into their homes...in more traditional
> roles...barefoot and pregnant with their
> reproductive freedom and most birth control
> methods gone. The republikan party is truly
> genious in bait and switch politics. They nominate
> black members to the Supreme Court that hates
> blacks...and a women VP who hates women. And all
> in the name of progress.
>
> There is no magic in politicians misleading a
> large group of the population ... impearial Japan
> did..Nazi Germany did it...Soviets wept when
> Stalin died! It happens all the time! So
> Amerikan women falling for Palin is perhaps just
> another example! The only way to counter act is
> education...but republikans are doing an excellent
> job of diverting the public away form the issues.
> Im afraid the debates are the last hope...but even
> in those..most people just hear what they are
> programmed to hear.

Vince = another bitter liberal clinging to his abortions and atheism.

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Re: Saturday Night Live has field day with Palin
Posted by: Radiophile ()
Date: September 16, 2008 01:14PM

pimes Wrote:
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> Vince = another bitter liberal clinging to his
> abortions and atheism.


and another conservative claiming his God is the true God. Well I got news for you - If there is a God, he or she does not give a hoot about you.

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Re: Saturday Night Live has field day with Palin
Posted by: TheMeeper ()
Date: September 16, 2008 03:17PM

> pimes Wrote:--
>> > Vince = another bitter liberal clinging to his abortions and atheism.


What is Obama's position on the dinosaurs?

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Re: Saturday Night Live has field day with Palin
Posted by: pimes ()
Date: September 16, 2008 05:03PM

Radiophile Wrote:
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> pimes Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Vince = another bitter liberal clinging to his
> > abortions and atheism.
>
>
> and another conservative claiming his God is the
> true God. Well I got news for you - If there is a
> God, he or she does not give a hoot about you.

In no such words did I claim my God is the true God. You obviously need a reading comprehension class. God doesn't care? Can you imagine Presidnet Lincoln's Second Inaugural Address without reference to "the judgments of the Lord." Or King's I Have a Dream speech without references to "all of God's children." Mentioning God helped inspire what had seemed impossible, and move the nation to embrace common goals. Goals that ultimately allowed an African American to be a strong contender for the highest office in the land. God may not care, but he certainly inspires.

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Re: Saturday Night Live has field day with Palin
Posted by: TheMeeper ()
Date: September 16, 2008 05:16PM

pimes Wrote:
>>>God may not care, but he certainly inspires.


"God" also inspires the ignorant to strap bombs on themselves and blow up innocent people.

Get it?

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Re: Saturday Night Live has field day with Palin
Posted by: Registered Voter ()
Date: September 16, 2008 05:31PM

You know, much as I am not a super religious person, I still find it offensive when people try to compare Radical Muslim terrorists to Christians.

The most "radical" time for Christians was when the Catholic Church (See Rome and other related "seats") called Crusades every few hundred years to help deal with political turmoil in Europe. Most Christians have moved well past that, and today the only folks that seem to be threatening violence in the streets is the oppressed minorities in our horrible country - exhorted to go ballistic by such well meaning pastors as Reverend Wright and others. Or Radical Islamic terrorists who have also been exhorted to violence by their Imams. Spreading messages of violence and hate will do that to folks, regardless of their race. The only message of God supporting violence is being distorted is by a bunch of people that want to keep the power they control over the masses, and has little, if anything to do with God.

And what exactly was William Ayers excuse? Seems God didn't enter into his equation at all.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 09/16/2008 05:32PM by Registered Voter.

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Re: Saturday Night Live has field day with Palin
Posted by: Vince(1) ()
Date: September 16, 2008 05:55PM

I wouldnt place a bet on which religion has killed more people in the name of god! In many areas of th world religion and government have blurred to the point where one cannot be diiferentiated from the other. Take this country for instense...many wish to proclaim us as a kristian country...and the violence against native americans...black slavery...the experimenting on blacks with venerial diseases our never ending..never questioning support of Israel against an indigenous population...our dropping the bomb on Japan (would we have dropped it on Italy...Germany?) as violence against humanity.

In Europe many believe the catholic church looked the other way during Hitler's final solution.

All are more modern "sterilized" hatred for others.


Its never a good idea for one religious group to look down the nose of another!

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Re: Saturday Night Live has field day with Palin
Posted by: TheMeeper ()
Date: September 16, 2008 06:04PM

Registered Voter Wrote:
>> The only message of God supporting violence is being distorted is by a bunch of people that want to keep the power they control over the masses,



"Iraq is a task from God."

- Sarah Palin

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Re: Saturday Night Live has field day with Palin
Posted by: Registered Voter ()
Date: September 16, 2008 06:54PM

Here's the quote:

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Palin asked the students to pray for the troops in Iraq, and noted that her eldest son, Track, was expected to be deployed there.
"Our national leaders are sending them out on a task that is from God," she said. "That's what we have to make sure that we're praying for, that there is a plan and that plan is God's plan."

A video of the speech was posted at the Wasilla Assembly of God's Web site before finding its way on to other sites on the Internet.

Palin told graduating students of the church's School of Ministry, "What I need to do is strike a deal with you guys." As they preached the love of Jesus throughout Alaska, she said, she'd work to implement God's will from the governor's office, including creating jobs by building a pipeline to bring North Slope natural gas to North American markets.

"God's will has to be done in unifying people and companies to get that gas line built, so pray for that," she said.

"I can do my job there in developing our natural resources and doing things like getting the roads paved and making sure our troopers have their cop cars and their uniforms and their guns, and making sure our public schools are funded," she added. "But really all of that stuff doesn't do any good if the people of Alaska's heart isn't right with God."

Lots of violence in that message, hmm?

http://news.aol.com/elections/conventions/republicans/article/iraq-war-a-task-from-god-palin-said/159686

A little bit different than saying "destroy the infidels!!" "Death to all who oppose the will of Allah!!"

You have some serious issues if you can equate the two belief systems. Keep trying.

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Re: Saturday Night Live has field day with Palin
Posted by: Lopter ()
Date: September 16, 2008 07:09PM

"Palinisms" are so much fun

Do you have experience in foreign policy?

"I been to Canada and Mexico and I can see Russia from my house."

- Sarah Palin

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Re: Saturday Night Live has field day with Palin
Posted by: TheMeeper ()
Date: September 16, 2008 07:36PM

Registered Voter Wrote:
>>> Lots of violence in that message, hmm?


Yeah there's nothing violent at all about the war in Iraq. That makes sense.

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Re: Saturday Night Live has field day with Palin
Posted by: Voter ()
Date: September 16, 2008 08:33PM

I know I certainly plan to bring up my trips to Cancun if I ever decide to run for VP. I mean, if diplomacy can't be achieved over a few tequila shots than I think we're all in serious trouble.


Lopter Wrote:
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> "Palinisms" are so much fun
>
> Do you have experience in foreign policy?
>
> "I been to Canada and Mexico and I can see Russia
> from my house."
>
> - Sarah Palin

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Re: Saturday Night Live has field day with Palin
Posted by: pimes ()
Date: September 18, 2008 12:09AM

Vince(1) Wrote:
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> Its never a good idea for one religious group to
> look down the nose of another!

Nor is it good for nonbelievers to look down their noses on believers. We should never forget that God granted us the power to reason so that we would do His work here on Earth.

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