Well, since it appears the "Down with the GOP" crowd holds court here, I thought I would post some links for "...the rest of the story..." Seems the mainstream media has been sitting on these stories, and for all they are factual, I have yet to see them air anywhere outside of Chicago...

$100K for a botanical garden never built by an Obama contributor:
http://www.suntimes.com/news/politics/obama/1050869,CST-NWS-garden11.article

Article on Earmarks the "Agent of Change" got for his folks in Chicago:
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/chi-0705030035may03,0,3860794.story

A list of earmarks from 2000-2003:
http://www.suntimes.com/news/politics/obama/1060495,CST-NWS-watchdog17.article

Obama's connection to ACORN:
http://michellemalkin.com/2008/08/22/acorn-watch-pt-ii-obama-hid-800000-payment-to-acorn-through-citizen-services-inc/

Yes, and well know that the folks at ACORN are totally above reproach in how they conduct their business...

An interesting story about millions of dollars to Obama's former Church:
http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/06/02/obamas-ex-church-has-won-15m-in-federal-grant-money/

An article recounting the Howard Kurtz interview on August 28th:
http://www.stoptheaclu.com/archives/2008/08/28/obama-ayers-failed-chicago-schools-under-ethnic-identity-agenda/

That one was interesting in how it came closer to bringing together the threads of the Ayers-Obama connection and how they used $50M in public funds to "reform" the Chicago school system. Also interesting since supposedly Obama was the head of this group - you'd think he would cite this as an example of his executive experience, yet we never hear anything about it....

More Ayers linkage and some information:
http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/07/obama_and_the_woods_fund_of_ch.html

Obama and Annenburg Challenge:
http://www.capitalresearch.org/blog/?p=258

Anyway, just some interesting reading. Yes some of the sites have a bias no doubt, but I figure I will let the articles speak for themselves. There are a lot more of these out there, and yet we hardly ever hear any of these stories on mainstream media. Yet the stories with little or no documentation make it on the air almost daily for Sarah Palin.

Media bias? :)

>> Media bias? :)

Can you blame them after the last 8 yrs?

Well, they got so tired of covering President Clinton, the "first black President" of his time, that now that they have an actual black man running for the office they are not quite sure what to do with themselves.

For all these folks pointing out how bad the "last 8 yrs" were, I can see now why the media has been trying very hard to NOT mention the affect 9/11 has had on our country. It is like the event never happened. All this stuff Bush did was just in a big bubble he created, which is why he got an even larger percentage of the popular vote in 2004. Or wait, was that just because Kerry was a horrible choice?

How many years do you guys need before you stop blaming everyone else? BTW- Remind me with 9/11 had to do with IRAQ again?

another story
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State sponsor of terrorism, as outlined by Bush in the days after 9/11 - which is why Iran suddenly decided to get tough with their nuke program now, they saw the writing on the wall - note that they are now cooperating with the US, so much so that Osama's number 2 guy is calling them out for it (http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D932N1J82&show_article=1)

Saddam's government paid $25000 US to families of suicide bombers in Israel, and was (much like Iran today) attempting to reconstitute WMD work. There are many stories floating out there (again, not covered due to mainstream media bias) that point out that there are documented convoys of trucks, planes and other vehicles that moved much of the WMD Iraq had to Syria just before the war. So Iraq had NOTHING to do with 9/11 (this link has been concocted by Dems and the media based on a couple of statements Cheney made), but everything to do with being a state sponsor of terrorism that had, by the way, flouted 12 years of UN Security Council directives, and also was still shooting at Coalition airplanes enforcing the no fly zones. Bush very clearly stated at the time that they investigated the 9/11 connection and Iraq was not responsible.

9/11 had very little to do with Iraq other than the fact that it made a change in American doctrine on not letting folks attack us, OR our Allies, first. Iraq just happened to be an object lesson of this, and by the way, got Libya to peacefully disarm and come clean on their nuclear and other WMD programs...

Registered Voter Wrote:
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> 9/11 had very little to do with Iraq

Thanks, that's what I thought.

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> another story

http://www.cocaine.org/george-bush/index.html

... Yet, as the claims of Sharon Bush, his sister-in-law, show, he could have been subject to jail time himself had he been caught “doing coke” with his brother Marvin at Camp David during his father’s presidency.

In the midst of an unfriendly divorce from Neil, another of the Bush brothers, Sharon told me last year: “He and Marvin did coke at Camp David when their father was president and not just once, either.”

As governor, George W had been very careful not to lie about doing illegal drugs himself, because he knew there were too many people who could testify to the truth. “When I was young and irresponsible,” he would say, “I was young and irresponsible.”

So what was his drugs record? When they were young, both he and Laura used to go down to the island of Tortola in the British Virgin Islands where they attended and enjoyed heavy pot-smoking parties. Smoking pot was hardly a sin but it did not mesh with the strait-laced image the Bushes were now presenting to the voters.

Then there were the allegations about cocaine. When W was at Yale in the mid-1960s, it was the most popular drug on campus. One contemporary, who insists on remaining anonymous, admitted years later to selling cocaine to W at the university.

Another man who was at Yale’s graduate school recalled “doing coke” with George, but he would not allow his recollections to be used on the record. This was not simply through fear of retribution. He said he did not feel right about “blowing George’s cover because I was doing the same thing”. A confirmed Democrat, he also said that although he could not stand George’s Republican politics, he liked him as a person.

Dear registered lunatic...do you just make this stuff up?

"9/11 had very little to do with Iraq other than the fact that it made a change in American doctrine on not letting folks attack us, OR our Allies, first. Iraq just happened to be an object lesson of this, and by the way, got Libya to peacefully disarm and come clean on their nuclear and other WMD programs..."



Iraq was in no position to attack us or any of our allies when we attacked them. Iraq was efectively contained within their boundries..and couldnt even put a military plane in the air or lock their radar on our planes without consequences.

And as far as Libya being a consequence..what a sick interpretation of a sucessful diplomatic action that should/could have been used against Iraq if the Bush Administration hadnt taken their eyes off the Bin laden target!

You are one republikan lap dog! Are you on some republikan payroll?



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> Thanks, that's what I thought.

You act like this is some revelation, which it is not. The only ones that keep thumping that bible so to speak are the democrats who keep trying to say that the administration made a huge case for it being about Saddam supporting 9/11 - which they did not.

Just because liberal media decided to play connect the dots and make that sound like what was being said, paraphrasing what someone else says does not make that a fact. You could have killed a bug on your wife by hitting her, someone else would see that and post a story about you beating your wife, you would say that a bee was on her back that you were killing, and then they would say you are anti-nature because you killed a bee - even though your wife was allergic to them.

That is the kind of BS that goes on with these stories. If you actually watched and listened to what the people being quoted or taken out of context actually said, you would get the real story. Just like folks that say Palin doesn't understand Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac by taking part of quote where she is making a point, and using the first part of the quote to infer something entirely different. It seems like a little liberal media, Obama dis-information club working overtime to smear someone and it is amazing how much grasping for things that aren't even gaffe's get taken out of context and used. It is no wonder they are not having her do interviews yet.

As far as Iraq goes, they were still capable of launching SCUD missiles at Israel and other targets in the region (which they did). All they had to do was get a chemical or bio weapon on top of one of those and we would all be seeing an entirely different issue. They were still a state sponsor of terrorism even though you want to gloss over that part. The fact that Libya came clean is a good thing, and yet you still want to make it something negative.

Who cares about Bin Laden, honestly, other than a bunch of media hype. If the guy wants to run around in mountains, hide in caves, and make videos once in a while... who cares. If you kill him, another will take his place. It is more important to focus on the folks actually attempting to implement his plans then it is worrying about him. If we get him, that will be great, but it won't solve anything.

Keep focusing on those little issues, you might get to then end of the race yet. It must be hard going through life thinking your cup is always half empty.

Half-empty? Hardly. I just filled 'er up. By the way, with your clear disdain for the media, you probably don't watch TV, except for maybe FOX news, which makes you a ton of fun at parties. Oh, and your Reader's Digest book club.