I'm 45 and love going to bars. I was recently told by a friend I should stop embarrassing myself by hanging out in bars at this age and should just stay home. The person called me a creeper.

I disagree. What do you people think?

They're right dude.

You know the pitiful creepy old dude sitting alone at the bar that you and your friends used to point to and laugh about?

That's you.

lol

I think it's fine as long as you're not the creepy drunk guy at the bar. If you're friendly and not flirtatious, then you shouldn't have anything to worry about.

Creepers should never feel ashamed.


Be yourself.

its not creepy, its cool, the guy who told you to stop probably has erectile problems and is jealous!

you go for it!

I love talking to old creepers in bars, plenty of tips!

I really depends on the length of your combover or, if you done't have a combover, whether your hair implants are very visible or just visible.

Thirty years ago I was one of those 25 year olds who thought guys in their 40s and 50s hanging around bars were creepy losers, but only because they were dressed in jeans and t-shirts and were hitting on young chicks in bars filled with 20-somethings.

Assuming you're not one of those idiots, you should be OK. In fact if you do it right, you should be fine. Bars in Washington DC are filled with 40-70 year old guys, by which I mean businessmen and government employees. If you're wearing dress slacks, a shirt and tie you'll fit in well just about anywhere except Clarendon Ballroom.

Try some of the places where the biz & fed crowds (men & women) hang out: Tyson's Mall (Seasons 52, Gordon Biersch, Brio, Coastal Flats, BUT NOT Norton's Grill, a 20 something hangout); Tyson's Galleria (Legal Seafood, Maggiano's, PF Chiang's); McCormick and Schmick's in Tyson's (Pete the bartender talks sports, especially baseball), Arlington/ Crystal City (Sine's, Champs, Lebanese Taverna); any Ruth's Chris or Morton's bar; and if you're looking for women, of course you need to go to Iris Lounge (formerly eCiti) in Tyson's which is heavily populated by middle age men and women.

If you're finished reading this and you're saying to yourself:

a: "But those places are too expensive, I want a $1 beer" and/or

b: "I don't want to put on nice clothes" and/or

c: "But I am after a 22 year old girl"

Then you're a creepy loser.

Act your age.

There are no bars in Virginia.

You are only a creepy loser if you care what some idiot in his mid-20's thinks of you when you are sitting in a bar.

we know that

Sounds like this guy is a little jealous. There are more creepy guys at young ages.

I'm guessing his wife wears the pants in the family and has him attending her book club every Friday night. On the weekends he probably shuttles the kids in the mini-van from soccer games to ballet practice.

I know guys in their 70's that still go to bars and pick up 20 somethings. Some chicks really get off on older men. Some of the 20 somethings just want a sugar daddy that pays for all her drinks and others just like the maturity level of older gray haired men. It gives them a feeling of security.

It all depends on the bar. Some are meccas for 30-40 year olds, some for 40-50. Others are more for 21-30. If I was in my 40s I would feel like a dick if I was in something like the Clarendon Ballroom. If I was in Kilroys I would feel at home.

@OP - I'm agreeing with those who say yr pal's a little jelly-welly yr getting some nitelife. Eff him and anyone who's got a problem with how you get yr rocks on as long as it's with another (or more - heh heh heh) consenting adult(s), y'know?

adam west Wrote:
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> It all depends on the bar. Some are meccas for
> 30-40 year olds, some for 40-50. Others are more
> for 21-30. If I was in my 40s I would feel like a
> dick if I was in something like the Clarendon
> Ballroom. If I was in Kilroys I would feel at
> home.

Kilroy's and Moe's... don't you mean an unemployed 50-70, plumber or biker on parole. LOL

adam west Wrote:
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> It all depends on the bar. Some are meccas for
> 30-40 year olds, some for 40-50. Others are more
> for 21-30. If I was in my 40s I would feel like a
> dick if I was in something like the Clarendon
> Ballroom. If I was in Kilroys I would feel at
> home.


You're on target. Go the right bar and it doesn't matter what your age is.

cooldude Wrote:
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> I'm 45 and love going to bars. I was recently told
> by a friend I should stop embarrassing myself by
> hanging out in bars at this age and should just
> stay home. The person called me a creeper.
>
> I disagree. What do you people think?


Have you ever been married? As a general rule, if you are over 35 and never been married and are not in a serious exclusive relationship, there is something wrong with you.

Every man I know who is over 35 and single has something wrong with him, and in most cases, he doesn't know it, or he refuses to recognize and fix the problem.

Sorry, to be so harsh, but at 45, you should be spending your evenings yelling at the wife for not telling you she wrote a check for $600.00 the other day, or yelling at the kids to do their homework, not hanging at the bar trying to sneak poeaks and 20 somethings' tight ass jeans.

There is so much out there to help you meet single women, online dating, speed dating, group dinner dating, meet ups, etc. Jeez, I wish I could have had a database of single women my age when I was single. It would have saved a lot of time and effort. At your age you should be doing something productive with your free time, like raising kids, or finding a nice women close to your age to marry.

Look at it this way, if a woman at 45 was going out and hanging bars all the time, what would the perception be of her?

Gordon Blvd Wrote:
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> @OP - I'm agreeing with those who say yr pal's a
> little jelly-welly yr getting some nitelife. Eff
> him and anyone who's got a problem with how you
> get yr rocks on as long as it's with another (or
> more - heh heh heh) consenting adult(s), y'know?

+1, Let's be realistic. If your buddy is out drinking beers, watching the baseball game and getting laid by 20-30 year old chics you'd be pissed too!

Especially if you're stuck at home babysitting a bunch of screaming kids, changing diapers and watching Barney.

I man needs some time to hang with the boys and drink some beers.

Once in a while to an age-appropriate kinda place is OK.

But if you're in your mid-40s and going out alone and creepin' on the 20-somethings every weekend, or you're known by name at any bar that's not owned by a friend or relative, then there's about a 99% chance that you've made the transition to creepy old dude. Probably any alcoholic on top.

cooldude Wrote:
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> I'm 45 and love going to bars. I was recently told
> by a friend I should stop embarrassing myself by
> hanging out in bars at this age and should just
> stay home. The person called me a creeper.
>
> I disagree. What do you people think?

As someone already posted, go to a bar or restaurant frequented by older, successful, unattached men since that is what the women in these establishments are looking for.

FUNdamental Wrote:
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> cooldude Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > I'm 45 and love going to bars. I was recently
> told
> > by a friend I should stop embarrassing myself
> by
> > hanging out in bars at this age and should just
> > stay home. The person called me a creeper.
> >
> > I disagree. What do you people think?
>
>
> Have you ever been married? As a general rule, if
> you are over 35 and never been married and are not
> in a serious exclusive relationship, there is
> something wrong with you.
>
> Every man I know who is over 35 and single has
> something wrong with him, and in most cases, he
> doesn't know it, or he refuses to recognize and
> fix the problem.
>
> Sorry, to be so harsh, but at 45, you should be
> spending your evenings yelling at the wife for not
> telling you she wrote a check for $600.00 the
> other day, or yelling at the kids to do their
> homework, not hanging at the bar trying to sneak
> poeaks and 20 somethings' tight ass jeans.
>
> There is so much out there to help you meet single
> women, online dating, speed dating, group dinner
> dating, meet ups, etc. Jeez, I wish I could have
> had a database of single women my age when I was
> single. It would have saved a lot of time and
> effort. At your age you should be doing something
> productive with your free time, like raising kids,
> or finding a nice women close to your age to
> marry.
>
> Look at it this way, if a woman at 45 was going
> out and hanging bars all the time, what would the
> perception be of her?

Thanks grandma. I'll keep following your advice and looking for the girl at the church social.

The difference is there are a lot of "rich kids" who like to travel and DON"T want to be bogged down by a wife and kids. In this area a lot the 40's something are a product of trust funds - "trust fund babies." Or they work in the high tech field and are required to be overseas for periods of time.

> Look at it this way, if a woman at 45 was going
> out and hanging bars all the time, what would the
> perception be of her?

I'd say holy Jesus I've hit the jackpot if it's at one of the upscale DC bars. I know a lot of 40 something business women that have never married. Most have travel around the country and are rich as shit.

Econ 101 Wrote:
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> > Look at it this way, if a woman at 45 was going
> > out and hanging bars all the time, what would
> the
> > perception be of her?
>
> I'd say holy Jesus I've hit the jackpot if it's at
> one of the upscale DC bars. I know a lot of 40
> something business women that have never married.
> Most have travel around the country and are rich
> as shit.


Those business women are not constantly hanging around bars. Trust me, they're not. You are 1,000 times more likely to find them at an asian restaurant with a girlfriend, than at a bar.

FUNdamental Wrote:
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> Have you ever been married? As a general rule, if
> you are over 35 and never been married and are not
> in a serious exclusive relationship, there is
> something wrong with you.


Any man who gets married - regardless of age - is just engineering his entire life to center around his sexual urges.

In other words, a perv.

MoreInfo Wrote:
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> There are no bars in Virginia.


OK kids, let's not get overly technical about the definition of a "bar" in Northern Virginia. When you walk into Morton's or Brio, there is a long horizontal structure attached to the floor that has seats on one side and a "bartender" on the other. In additional to the bartender, behind this structure are bottles of beer, wine, and liquor. There's also glasses ice, mixers.

We call this setup a "bar" even though under local laws it's may simply be a long horizontal structure inside of a restaurant.

> Have you ever been married? As a general rule, if
> you are over 35 and never been married and are not
> in a serious exclusive relationship, there is
> something wrong with you.


Some of the most interesting people I have ever met were over 40 and never married. They also don't have to deal with kids, a wife who gets fat and all of the bullshit that goes with getting married.
Hell, most people who got married under the age of 30 are divorced by 40.

FUNdamental Wrote:
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> Econ 101 Wrote:
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> > > Look at it this way, if a woman at 45 was
> going
> > > out and hanging bars all the time, what would
> > the
> > > perception be of her?
> >
> > I'd say holy Jesus I've hit the jackpot if it's
> at
> > one of the upscale DC bars. I know a lot of 40
> > something business women that have never
> married.
> > Most have travel around the country and are
> rich
> > as shit.
>
>
> Those business women are not constantly hanging
> around bars. Trust me, they're not. You are
> 1,000 times more likely to find them at an asian
> restaurant with a girlfriend, than at a bar.

I can just tell you about the three 40's something women that come to mind right away.

#1 She frequents rich bars in DC; POV, Capital Lounge, Sage when she is in DC.(She travels a lot for work) She works for a marketing firm as a director of a department. Her facebook page is loaded with "At the Effiel tower" "At the Regly Field" "At Miami Stars Red Carpet." You're right she does also hang out with a group of 40 something yuppies girlfriends that most are single. They do go a lot of nice restaurants together also.

#2 Works on Capital Hill and is country girl from Arkansas. Her last boyfriend lasted 12 years, they broke up??? I'm not sure why...? Her father was a previous Senator.

#3 Owns a large house\Mansion out in Gainsville. Has two kids from a previous relationships, never married. The kids are now on their own.

I forgot to mention that #3 recently posted some pictures from Mexico of her and her friends on the beach. OM F'm G! She looked like a 20 year old.

Econ 101 Wrote:
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> I forgot to mention that #3 recently posted some
> pictures from Mexico of her and her friends on the
> beach. OM F'm G! She looked like a 20 year old.


Again, I doubt any of them are hanging out at bars, on a frequent basis. They may go to a bar a few times a year, but they don't hang.

just a thought Wrote:
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>
>
>
> Some of the most interesting people I have ever
> met were over 40 and never married. They also
> don't have to deal with kids, a wife who gets fat
> and all of the bullshit that goes with getting
> married.
>

Guess what, they are gay!



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@FUNdamental sounds like the type of guy who got married because his parents pushed him into it.

The only other possibility is if he got married to deflect suspicion away from his faggotry.

Or both.

FUNdamental Wrote:
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> Econ 101 Wrote:
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> > I forgot to mention that #3 recently posted
> some
> > pictures from Mexico of her and her friends on
> the
> > beach. OM F'm G! She looked like a 20 year old.
>
>
> Again, I doubt any of them are hanging out at
> bars, on a frequent basis. They may go to a bar a
> few times a year, but they don't hang.

At least once a week. A lot of times for a happy hour after work with co-workers, or a client visiting and dinner. I don't blame them. Why go home to an empty house and sit home watching TV. Plus, a lot them get inside details on what's going on in the office. Some drinks with somebody from accounting or department X can mean big payouts. Other times they go for "Girls night out" and to blow off steam.

Now are they out every night in a bar, staying till close and getting shit face drunk? No, of course not. They are out of the bar by 9pm usually after a couple of drinks.

FUNdamental Wrote:
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> Those business women are not constantly hanging
> around bars. Trust me, they're not. You are
> 1,000 times more likely to find them at an asian
> restaurant with a girlfriend, than at a bar.


What makes you think that these business women don't have certain needs and desires that are unlikely to be filled in a won-ton restaurant with their girlfriends?

Because they are smart and they don't put themselves in positions that put them in possible danger.

FUNdamental Wrote:
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> Because they are smart and they don't put
> themselves in positions that put them in possible
> danger.


Oh God yes, you wouldn't believe how many women enjoying a cocktail at Morton's have been drugged, kidnapped and raped at gunpoint.

**Sarcasm**


FUNdamental?

Fundamental idiot, judging by your posts.

do what makes you happy

FUNdamental Wrote:
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> Have you ever been married? As a general rule, if
> you are over 35 and never been married and are not
> in a serious exclusive relationship, there is
> something wrong with you.
> Every man I know who is over 35 and single has
> something wrong with him, and in most cases, he
> doesn't know it, or he refuses to recognize and
> fix the problem.

Nice blanket assumption. Perhaps some men prefer being alone or just don't generally like women and their controling ways. The men I know who are married are brow beaten and miserable for the most part.

FUNdamental Wrote:
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> Because they are smart and they don't put
> themselves in positions that put them in possible
> danger.


Where do you think we are? Iraq?

FUNdamental Wrote:
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> cooldude Wrote:
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Sorry, to be so harsh, but at 45, you should be
> spending your evenings yelling at the wife for not
> telling you she wrote a check for $600.00 the
> other day, or yelling at the kids to do their
> homework, not hanging at the bar trying to sneak
> poeaks and 20 somethings' tight ass jeans.

And I would want those headaches why? NOPE!

I certainly don't want to conference with a wife about what I can and can not do. I also don't want to be stuck driving a mini-van full of kids for 18 years. Give my money to a wife a kids to spend, no thank you.

The guys I know that got married and had kids are mostly "following what everybody else does." Everyone of the married guys I know are constantly complaining about his wife or kids.

Marriage and kids are nothing but a big hassle and boat anchor. Plus I can get laid by different women and not stuck with the same old hag.

Reality Wrote:
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> FUNdamental Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > cooldude Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> Sorry, to be so harsh, but at 45, you should be
> > spending your evenings yelling at the wife for
> not
> > telling you she wrote a check for $600.00 the
> > other day, or yelling at the kids to do their
> > homework, not hanging at the bar trying to
> sneak
> > poeaks and 20 somethings' tight ass jeans.
>
> And I would want those headaches why? NOPE!
>
> I certainly don't want to conference with a wife
> about what I can and can not do. I also don't
> want to be stuck driving a mini-van full of kids
> for 18 years. Give my money to a wife a kids to
> spend, no thank you.
>
> The guys I know that got married and had kids are
> mostly "following what everybody else does."
> Everyone of the married guys I know are constantly
> complaining about his wife or kids.
>
> Marriage and kids are nothing but a big hassle and
> boat anchor. Plus I can get laid by different
> women and not stuck with the same old hag.


AMEN!!!!!

Hell, I'm 50 and my friends are jealous as hell that I go to a bar and occasionally end up lucky by banging the shit out of some tight little 22 year old girl while they go home to their bitchy old wife complete with saggy titties and a gut.

If you are over 50 and can still get lucky picking up chicks twenty years or more younger, go for it.

I can still remember scoring a 19 y.o. and it was great being with a firm well toned body. Women in their fortys and beyond are well out of their prime. Their saggy skin just doesn't compare to the vigor of a twenty year old. Look what the young chicks have done for Hugh Hefner. He should have died years ago, but being around youthful partners has kept him here; for good reason.

Pics or didn't happpen.

50 Stud Wrote:
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> Hell, I'm 50 and my friends are jealous as hell
> that I go to a bar and occasionally end up lucky
> by banging the shit out of some tight little 22
> year old girl while they go home to their bitchy
> old wife complete with saggy titties and a gut.

How do we know you are not some young 20 something chic just trying to entice older men to hang out in bars so you can get laid by a real man with experience?

Probably just looking for a little DILF action!

Let's fuck some Whores!!!!!

Ronnie Mund Wrote:
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> Let's fuck some Whores!!!!!

Why pay for it when college girls are dying to fuck older guys. Just buy alcohol and you're good to go!

I asked this question to a bunch of college girls this weekend at the bar. The consensus was old guys are creepy if they give unwanted advances, try to grope the girls or on some drug that makes them crazy eyed.

They also added that "old guys" dressed in nice clothing were a turn on "for some reason" and they thought those guys were "cool and fun."

The girls thought more guys in their 20's were creeper because they try to act cool.

So basically, if your over 30 dress it up because chics dig that.

Never. Hit on anyone you want friend. Why care what anyone else thinks this is your life so, as long as you are being friendly and not hurting anyone do what you want.

Rule of sales is every rejection is one more closer to getting a 'yes.' Fuck em all and have fun, smile, laugh and see what happens...

never Wrote:
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> Rule of sales is every rejection is one more
> closer to getting a 'yes.' Fuck em all and have
> fun, smile, laugh and see what happens...

Agreed, it's like the lottery. You've got to play to win.

Answer Man Wrote:
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> I asked this question to a bunch of college girls
> this weekend at the bar. The consensus was old
> guys are creepy if they give unwanted advances,
> try to grope the girls or on some drug that makes
> them crazy eyed.
>
> They also added that "old guys" dressed in nice
> clothing were a turn on "for some reason" and they
> thought those guys were "cool and fun."

Translated:
Are you John Slattery? Then flirt away.
Are you not John Slattery? Then you're a creep.

I'M A FIVE-STAR MAN!!

FUNdamental Wrote:
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>
> Every man I know who is over 35 and single has
> something wrong with him, and in most cases, he
> doesn't know it, or he refuses to recognize and
> fix the problem.
>


Reading your other threads/posts, they're probably liberal flamers.

You are clearly paying for sex if you are over 40 and going home with under 25 year old women, do not lie to yourself, you buy them a shitload of drinks and takeing them home, it's called paying for sex.

losers Wrote:
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> You are clearly paying for sex if you are over 40
> and going home with under 25 year old women, do
> not lie to yourself, you buy them a shitload of
> drinks and takeing them home, it's called paying
> for sex.


We all pay one way or another. You just have not figured that out yet.Fuck Face

Girls actually buy me drinks, and then I take them home with me, I have never paid for a drink once in my life, I guess that's what being a 25 year old business professional with rock hard abs will do for you.

jhey Wrote:
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> Answer Man Wrote:
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> > I asked this question to a bunch of college
> girls
> > this weekend at the bar. The consensus was old
> > guys are creepy if they give unwanted advances,
> > try to grope the girls or on some drug that
> makes
> > them crazy eyed.
> >
> > They also added that "old guys" dressed in nice
> > clothing were a turn on "for some reason" and
> they
> > thought those guys were "cool and fun."
>
> Translated:
> Are you John Slattery? Then flirt away.
> Are you not John Slattery? Then you're a creep.

Artie Lang thought this chick he met at a bar went back to his Las Vegas hotel room with him because he was "Artie Lang from the Howard Stern Show." The next morning she demanded $2,000.00 cash from him.

FUNdamental Wrote:
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> cooldude Wrote:
>
>
> Look at it this way, if a woman at 45 was going
> out and hanging bars all the time, what would the
> perception be of her?


Adam Lanza's Mom

cooldude Wrote:
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> I'm 45 and love going to bars. I was recently told
> by a friend I should stop embarrassing myself by
> hanging out in bars at this age and should just
> stay home. The person called me a creeper.
>
> I disagree. What do you people think?

I think you have a problem. I stopped going to bars after I hit 30. Yes, you are the creepy pathetic old guy at the end of the bar that still thinks he can score a 20 something babe if she gets drunk enough.

your friends are jealous. Considering the rate of divorce in this area I think it's safe to say you aren't the only 45 yr old out cruising the bar scene.