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Private Vasquez Says.....
Posted by:
eesh
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Date: January 25, 2013 07:13PM
"Women in infantry will do just fine."
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Re: Private Vasquez Says.....
Posted by:
cowardly lion
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Date: January 25, 2013 07:35PM
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Re: Private Vasquez Says.....
Posted by:
MrMephisto
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Date: January 25, 2013 07:55PM
I've always heard that the problem with women in combat is the psychological impact it has on men. Most men, whether through instinct, upbringing, or society's influence, are more inclined to try to protect women or come to their aid. This could lead to a male soldier putting himself at risk to save a female soldier when he shouldn't.
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Re: Private Vasquez Says.....
Posted by:
Olde Farte, II
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Date: January 25, 2013 08:04PM
MrMephisto Wrote:
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> I've always heard that the problem with women in
> combat is the psychological impact it has on men.
> Most men, whether through instinct, upbringing, or
> society's influence, are more inclined to try to
> protect women or come to their aid. This could
> lead to a male soldier putting himself at risk to
> save a female soldier when he shouldn't.
Guys do that for guys all the time; I would not at all be concerned about that (BTW - there are TONS of datapoints from the real world about just this (or not); those might answer this with finality (nee, the Isreali army)).
I'd be more concerned about the physical aspects of frontline duty - and that applies to BOTH sexes, of course - doesn't matter if you have balls between your legs if you can't literally pull your weight, however JUST having those balls between your legs obviously improves the chances you can.
I am TOTALLY against changing any physical requirements to allow females into positions normally restricted to males if the physical requirements really are required.
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> I've always heard that the problem with women in
> combat is the psychological impact it has on men.
> Most men, whether through instinct, upbringing, or
> society's influence, are more inclined to try to
> protect women or come to their aid. This could
> lead to a male soldier putting himself at risk to
> save a female soldier when he shouldn't.
Guys do that for guys all the time; I would not at all be concerned about that (BTW - there are TONS of datapoints from the real world about just this (or not); those might answer this with finality (nee, the Isreali army)).
I'd be more concerned about the physical aspects of frontline duty - and that applies to BOTH sexes, of course - doesn't matter if you have balls between your legs if you can't literally pull your weight, however JUST having those balls between your legs obviously improves the chances you can.
I am TOTALLY against changing any physical requirements to allow females into positions normally restricted to males if the physical requirements really are required.
Re: Private Vasquez Says.....
Posted by:
The Puzzler
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Date: January 25, 2013 08:04PM
MrMephisto Wrote:
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> I've always heard that the problem with women in
> combat is the psychological impact it has on men.
> Most men, whether through instinct, upbringing, or
> society's influence, are more inclined to try to
> protect women or come to their aid. This could
> lead to a male soldier putting himself at risk to
> save a female soldier when he shouldn't.
Hey, Mah-Fizzy...I find your remarks fascinating (in a non-sarcastic way). Please describe for me a scenario where you would not want come to the aid of a fellow soldier male or female. I'm not saying you're wrong because it's simply your opinion but, I'd like you to expand on it a bit, please.
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> I've always heard that the problem with women in
> combat is the psychological impact it has on men.
> Most men, whether through instinct, upbringing, or
> society's influence, are more inclined to try to
> protect women or come to their aid. This could
> lead to a male soldier putting himself at risk to
> save a female soldier when he shouldn't.
Hey, Mah-Fizzy...I find your remarks fascinating (in a non-sarcastic way). Please describe for me a scenario where you would not want come to the aid of a fellow soldier male or female. I'm not saying you're wrong because it's simply your opinion but, I'd like you to expand on it a bit, please.
Re: Private Vasquez Says.....
Posted by:
Numbers
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Date: January 25, 2013 08:05PM
I'll take Private Vasquez on my squad any day. She was balls out in combat.
Re: Private Vasquez Says.....
Posted by:
Olde Farte, II
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Date: January 25, 2013 08:11PM
Numbers Wrote:
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> I'll take Private Vasquez on my squad any day.
Oh sure, and I'd take a full squadron of women in my fighter group - they tend to be smaller and thus (perhaps) much more G tolerant though maybe less aggressive - not sure how aggression plays into fighter pilot requirements these days, BTW - would be interesting to see the most recent study (Wright Pat Tech Report of some type, I'd bet).
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> I'll take Private Vasquez on my squad any day.
Oh sure, and I'd take a full squadron of women in my fighter group - they tend to be smaller and thus (perhaps) much more G tolerant though maybe less aggressive - not sure how aggression plays into fighter pilot requirements these days, BTW - would be interesting to see the most recent study (Wright Pat Tech Report of some type, I'd bet).