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Why windfall taxes on big oil are stupid
Posted by: Mofo ()
Date: July 16, 2008 01:06AM

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Bill Phillips spent nearly 50 years in the US oil and gas industry; most of his career was with the Phillips Petroleum Company. Bill is a descendant of Frank Phillips. Frank Phillips, along with his brother Lee Eldas (L.E.) Phillips, Sr., founded the original Phillips Petroleum Company in 1917 in Bartlesville , OK . Do you remember Phillips 66 gas stations? Phillips Petroleum Company merged with Conoco, Inc. in 2002 to form the current ConocoPhillips oil company.



So, when Bill talks about oil and gas issues, listen - very closely. You will find Bill's thoughts and facts very revealing, very compelling and very difficult to argue with.



Bill Phillips on "Big" Oil

As you prepare to cast your crucial ballots this Fall, please think long and hard about the far-reaching, cumulative effects of the US political philosophies, policies and legislation that have contributed to the current and future US oil supply situation.

Did you know that the United States does NOT have any big oil companies. It's true: the largest American oil company, Exxon Mobil, is only the 14th largest in the world, and is dwarfed by the really big oil companies--all owned by foreign governments or government-sponsored monopolies--that dominate the world's oil supply.

With 94% of the world's oil supply locked up by foreign governments, most of which are hostile to the United States , the relatively puny American oil companies do not have access to enough crude oil to significantly affect the market and help bring prices down. Thus, ExxonMobil, a "small" oil company, buys 90% of the crude oil that it refines for the U.S. market from the big players, i.e, mostly-hostile foreign governments. The price at the U.S. pump is rising because the price the big oil companies charge ExxonMobil and the other small American companies for crude oil is going up as the value of the American dollar goes down. They will eventually bleed this country into printing even more money and we will go into runway inflation once again as we did under the Carter Democratic reign.

This is obviously a tough situation for the American consumer. The irony is that it doesn't have to be that way. The United States --unlike, say, France --actually has vast petroleum reserves. It would be possible for American oil companies to develop those reserves, play a far bigger role in international markets, and deliver gas at the pump to American consumers at a much lower price, while creating many thousands of jobs for Americans. This would be infinitely preferable to shipping endless billions of dollars to Saudi Arabia , Russia and Venezuela to be used in propping up their economies.

So, why doesn't it happen? Because the Democrat Party--aided, sadly, by a handful of Republicans--deliberately keeps gas prices high and our domestic oil companies small by putting most of our reserves off limits to development. China is now drilling in the Caribbean, off Cuba but our own companies are barred by law from developing large oil fields off the coasts of Florida and California . Enormous oil-shale deposits in the Rocky Mountain states could go a long way toward supplying American consumers' needs, but the Democratic Congress won't allow those resources to be developed. ANWR contains vast petroleum reserves, but we don't know how vast, because Congress, not wanting the American people to know how badly its policies are hurting our economy, has made it illegal to explore and map those reserves, let alone develop them.

In short, all Americans are paying a terrible price for the Democratic Party's perverse energy policies. I own some small interests in tiny, 4 barrel-per-day oil wells in Wyoming . We have 14 agencies that have iron-hand jurisdiction over us. If we drop any oil on the ground when the refinery truck comes to pick up oil from our holding tanks, we are fined. Yet down the road the state will spray thousands of gallons of used oil on a dirt road to control dirt. When it rains that oil runs into rivers and creeks. Yet a cup of oil on the ground at our wellhead is a $50,000 EPA fine plus additional fines from state regulating agencies. They treat oil as if it were plutonium that has the potential to leak into the environment. We are fined if our dirt burms are not high enough around a holding tank, yet the truck that picks up our oil runs down the road at 60 mph with no burm around it. People wonder why there is no more exploration in this country. It's because of the regulators; people who have lived their whole lives doing nothing but imposing fines on small operators like us for doing mostly nothing.

So, America enjoy your $4.00 per gallon gasoline. Your dollar is now worth 0.62 Euro-Cents. The lack of American production of GNP, the massive trade deficit (as labor markets have moved overseas to fight insanely high union imposed labor costs in America ) and the run away printing of money (backed by nothing of value here in America ) has caused the dollar to become more worthless on the international market. And that's where our oil comes from. It's paid for with dollars that become more worthless everyday. If we had just kept par with the Euro we'd be paying $62 dollars per barrel for oil (42 gallons) or about $1.50 instead of $2.50 a gallon for crude oil.

What the US government also does not tell you is that it is the leaseholder and royalty recipient of most oil production and receives 25% of the gross oil sales before we pay for electricity to lift the oil, propane to keep the oil-water separators from freezing in the winters. We pay a pumper to visit each well everyday plus we have equipment failures all the time. We pay for that out of our 75% of gross sales. The government does not share in any expenses to run any production well. So, if the Big Oil Companies are making record profits, then so is the federal government from it's 25% tax on every molecule of oil sold to a refinery in this country. Why isn't the government on the stand for "Record" profits? What you don't see is this 25% of the sales price of crude oil being siphoned away by the government. That money plus the road taxes, state taxes, etc. amounts to over $1 per gallon of gasoline you are buying while the governments only admit to about 50 cents per gallon.

To all you Democrats, when you go vote for your candidate's, a blazing liberal like Barrack Obama or others in Congress , just keep in mind that their liberal spending habits will further decrease the value of the American dollar on the world market and your gasoline costs will hike even higher. As they introduce more give-away programs, raise taxes on everyone to pay people not to produce or work, your dollar will continue to dwindle on the world market and you will be paying $10.00 per gallon at the next election. Cheap hydrocarbon fuel is all over. Enjoy! Enjoy the fruits of your decision to elect these folks when you are there in that voting booth and you stab your pin through a Democrat's name.

William "Bill" Phillips

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Re: Why windfall taxes on big oil are stupid
Posted by: Just a pointer ()
Date: July 16, 2008 01:13AM

I don't disagree with everything above, but you might want to try snopes sometimes. Snopes even dispelled the rumor that The Meeper has friends and is straight.

http://www.snopes.com/politics/gasoline/bigoil.asp

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Re: Why windfall taxes on big oil are stupid
Posted by: Eastsider ()
Date: July 16, 2008 05:12AM

Bush and friends have done a pretty good job of spending money and driving down the dollar.


> To all you Democrats, when you go vote for your
> candidate's, a blazing liberal like Barrack Obama
> or others in Congress , just keep in mind that
> their liberal spending habits will further
> decrease the value of the American dollar on the
> world market and your gasoline costs will hike
> even higher. As they introduce more give-away
> programs, raise taxes on everyone to pay people
> not to produce or work, your dollar will continue
> to dwindle on the world market and you will be
> paying $10.00 per gallon at the next election.
> Cheap hydrocarbon fuel is all over. Enjoy! Enjoy
> the fruits of your decision to elect these folks
> when you are there in that voting booth and you
> stab your pin through a Democrat's name.
>
> William "Bill" Phillips

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Re: Why windfall taxes on big oil are stupid
Posted by: TheMeeper ()
Date: July 16, 2008 07:35AM

What's the matter Alias? Did you forget the password to your "Moderator"/"CrazedMod" accounts?



Just a pointer Wrote:
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> I don't disagree with everything above, but you
> might want to try snopes sometimes. Snopes even
> dispelled the rumor that The Meeper has friends
> and is straight.
>
> http://www.snopes.com/politics/gasoline/bigoil.asp

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Re: Why windfall taxes on big oil are stupid
Posted by: Just a pointer ()
Date: July 16, 2008 08:09AM

TheMeeper Wrote:
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> What's the matter Alias? Did you forget the
> password to your "Moderator"/"CrazedMod"
> accounts?
>

I know you won't believe this, but I am not Alias. Does your ego prevent you from allowing yourself to believe more than one person find you to be a little bitch ass bone smuggler?

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Re: Why windfall taxes on big oil are stupid
Posted by: TheMeeper ()
Date: July 16, 2008 08:44AM

Sorry to confuse you with the other complete lamer that trolls the forum with retarded "gay" remarks.

My sincerest apologies.

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Re: Why windfall taxes on big oil are stupid
Posted by: WashingToneLocian ()
Date: July 16, 2008 09:27AM

It should be pretty obvious to everyone now that this whole thing is part of an organized campaign by Big Oil to not only open up ANWR, but also national parks in the U.S. before Bush leaves office. Just 18 months ago, oil was trading at $50 a barrel. There is no way worldwide demand has tripled in that time. Big Oil is creating this situation the way Enron manipulated the energy market in California to drive Gray Davis out of office and gouge California consumers.

Don't be fooled.

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Re: Why windfall taxes on big oil are stupid
Posted by: Radiophile ()
Date: July 16, 2008 04:58PM

Fine, let them drill in ANWR as soon as they drill in the Gulf which they are allowed to do and have leases for.

Why is everybody willing to hand over everything to big oil? Gulf of Mexico is ready to guys, go for it.

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Re: Why windfall taxes on big oil are stupid
Posted by: Mofo ()
Date: July 16, 2008 06:43PM

Just a pointer Wrote:
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> I don't disagree with everything above, but you
> might want to try snopes sometimes. Snopes even
> dispelled the rumor that The Meeper has friends
> and is straight.
>
> http://www.snopes.com/politics/gasoline/bigoil.asp


Ah, that's what I get for posting a forwarded email that looked like it had some good points.

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Re: Why windfall taxes on big oil are stupid
Posted by: Mofo ()
Date: July 16, 2008 06:46PM

Radiophile Wrote:
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> Fine, let them drill in ANWR as soon as they drill
> in the Gulf which they are allowed to do and have
> leases for.
>
> Why is everybody willing to hand over everything
> to big oil? Gulf of Mexico is ready to guys, go
> for it.


I hope you are being sarcastic.


----------

US drilling rig count at 23-year high

By OGJ editors
HOUSTON, July 2 -- US drilling continued to climb, up by 8 rotary rigs to 1,921 working this week, said Baker Hughes Inc. on July 2.

That's the largest number of rigs drilling in the US and its waters since late December 1985, when 1,995 units were working. It compares with 1,752 rigs at work in this same period in 2007.

As usual, land operations accounted for the weekly increase, up by 9 rigs to 1,836 drilling. Inland waters were unchanged with 22 rigs working. Offshore activity declined by 1 to 63 rigs in the Gulf of Mexico, the only waters in which federal leases are being drilled.

Of the rigs working, 373 were drilling for oil, down 2 from the previous week. There were 1,539 rigs drilling for natural gas, 9 more than the previous week, and 9 units were unclassified. Horizontal drilling decreased by 9 to 555. Directional drilling increased by 7 to 387.

Among major producing states, Oklahoma reported the largest increase in activity, up 9 rigs to 209 working. Texas increased by 8 to 923, and New Mexico was up 1 to 81. Rig counts in Wyoming and California were unchanged at 76 and 43, respectively. Louisiana, Colorado, and Alaska were down 2 rigs each to 176, 111, and 4 respectively.

Canada's rig count jumped by 32 to 388 this week. That's up from 286 in the same period last year.

Baker Hughes reported the rig count early this week because of the US Independence holiday on July



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 07/16/2008 06:47PM by Mofo.

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Re: Why windfall taxes on big oil are stupid
Posted by: Alias ()
Date: July 16, 2008 06:56PM

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Re: Why windfall taxes on big oil are stupid
Posted by: TheMeeper ()
Date: July 16, 2008 07:15PM

Alias Wrote:
>>Maybe we should all spend the lousy 30 bucks for a proxy server, just to
> fuck with you, gaytard. Just a pointer:

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Re: Why windfall taxes on big oil are stupid
Posted by: Alias ()
Date: July 16, 2008 08:27PM

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Re: Why windfall taxes on big oil are stupid
Posted by: TheMeeper ()
Date: July 16, 2008 08:38PM


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Re: Why windfall taxes on big oil are stupid
Posted by: Alias ()
Date: July 16, 2008 08:43PM

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Re: Why windfall taxes on big oil are stupid
Posted by: TheMeeper ()
Date: July 16, 2008 08:46PM

The concept of getting it versus not getting it.

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Re: Why windfall taxes on big oil are stupid
Posted by: Alias ()
Date: July 16, 2008 08:51PM

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Re: Why windfall taxes on big oil are stupid
Posted by: Chinaman/Cuban/Venezualan ()
Date: July 16, 2008 11:52PM

Radiophile Wrote:
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> Fine, let them drill in ANWR as soon as they drill
> in the Gulf which they are allowed to do and have
> leases for.
>
> Why is everybody willing to hand over everything
> to big oil? Gulf of Mexico is ready to guys, go
> for it.

I drank your milkshake -- look it up.....

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Re: Why windfall taxes on big oil are stupid
Posted by: Radiophile ()
Date: July 17, 2008 05:45PM

Mofo Wrote:
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> Radiophile Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Fine, let them drill in ANWR as soon as they
> drill
> > in the Gulf which they are allowed to do and
> have
> > leases for.
> >
> > Why is everybody willing to hand over
> everything
> > to big oil? Gulf of Mexico is ready to guys, go
> > for it.
>
>
> I hope you are being sarcastic.
>
> Offshore activity declined by 1 to 63 rigs in the
> Gulf of Mexico, the only waters in which federal
> leases are being drilled.


And these 63 rigs are located on how many of the HUNDREDS of leases the oil companies paid for and ARE NOT USING.

You dont get it. It is a big Gulf. Many leases for drilling are not being - and probably wont be used in the near future.

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Re: Why windfall taxes on big oil are stupid
Posted by: Radiophile ()
Date: July 17, 2008 10:52PM

Mofo Wrote:
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> Ah, that's what I get for posting a forwarded
> email that looked like it had some good points.

No problem. Always feel free to post any email you recieve which you feel has valid points. Clearly you are too busy to check your facts, so it only makes sense that you should inconvienance a hundred people or more to check and dispell what you feel are valid points.

FYI - any notice about the Postal Service wanting to tax emails is false. I am Mentioning this just in case you were considering posting that and your outrage to the proposed bill.

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Re: Why windfall taxes on big oil are stupid
Posted by: Avid Fan ()
Date: July 17, 2008 11:18PM

Radiophile Wrote:
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> so it only
> makes sense that you should inconvienance a
> hundred people or more to check and dispell what
> you feel are valid points.

My God, that is the funniest post ever. Seriously, "inconvenience"? What the hell is wrong with you? This message board is filled with nonsense. If you find it an inconvenience, stay off of it.

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Re: Why windfall taxes on big oil are stupid
Posted by: Radiophile ()
Date: July 18, 2008 01:30PM

Avid Fan Wrote:
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> Radiophile Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
>
> > so it only
> > makes sense that you should inconvienance a
> > hundred people or more to check and dispell
> what
> > you feel are valid points.
>
> My God, that is the funniest post ever.
> Seriously, "inconvenience"? What the hell is
> wrong with you? This message board is filled with
> nonsense. If you find it an inconvenience, stay
> off of it.

Sorry, I thought the stated pupose was "Use this board to post anything you think Fairfax County residents would find interesting".

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Re: Why windfall taxes on big oil are stupid
Posted by: Avid Fan ()
Date: July 18, 2008 11:22PM

Radiophile Wrote:
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> Sorry, I thought the stated pupose was "Use this
> board to post anything you think Fairfax County
> residents would find interesting".

And do you think that FFX county residents are immune from forwarded emails? If the emails weren't so popular, they wouldn't be forwarded a thousand times over and a topic of conversation. Just because the email was factually wrong doesn't mean it wasn't "interesting." You, are the only thing in this conversation that is NOT interesting.

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Re: Why windfall taxes on big oil are stupid
Posted by: Radiophile ()
Date: July 19, 2008 12:14AM

Avid Fan Wrote:
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> Radiophile Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> And do you think that FFX county residents are
> immune from forwarded emails?

No, Fairfax residents are not immune from forwarded emails. Just because you get a flu virus doesn't mean you are obligated to spread it.


> If the emails weren't so popular, they wouldn't be forwarded a
> thousand times over and a topic of conversation.

People are strange. But what I have found if you send them the snopes response 2 or 3 times, the smarter ones stop sending them.

> Just because the email was factually wrong doesn't
> mean it wasn't "interesting."

Alot of things that are factually wrong are interesting, porn is one example (when was the last time you banged the top heavy blonde pizza delivery chick and got a free pizza to boot? I know you have Gravis, but it is not factual for most of us). So no need to post porn here either.

You, are the only
> thing in this conversation that is NOT
> interesting.

Register, and stop hiding behind your anonymous user name if you have a problem with me. Or better yet, just go down to the Golden Triangle in DC and have a drink or two.

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Re: Why windfall taxes on big oil are stupid
Posted by: Avid Fan ()
Date: July 19, 2008 01:39AM

No thanks homo, I try and shy away from Gay Bermuda Triangles. Is that where you met your life partner?

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Re: Why windfall taxes on big oil are stupid
Posted by: Radiophile ()
Date: July 19, 2008 08:30AM

Avid Fan Wrote:
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> No thanks homo, I try and shy away from Gay
> Bermuda Triangles. Is that where you met your life
> partnr?

Name calling... How intelligent.

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Re: Why windfall taxes on big oil are stupid
Posted by: Not an Avid fan ()
Date: July 19, 2008 12:17PM

Avid Fan Wrote:
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> No thanks homo, I try and shy away from Gay
> Bermuda Triangles. Is that where you met your life
> partner?


LOL! It's funny how Radiophile portrays himself as an ultra conservative who believes marriage is only meant for a man and woman. Non homophobic men wouldn't give a fuck if men married men. More gay men means more available women for us! I think Radiophile is this anti gay conservative freak show, because he really wants to be with a man sometimes, and sneaks off down to Dupont Circle on weekend nights after his wife goes to sleep!!!

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Re: Why windfall taxes on big oil are stupid
Posted by: Radiophile ()
Date: July 19, 2008 04:12PM

Not an Avid fan Wrote:
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> Avid Fan Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > No thanks homo, I try and shy away from Gay
> > Bermuda Triangles. Is that where you met your
> life
> > partner?
>
>
> LOL! It's funny how Radiophile portrays himself as
> an ultra conservative who believes marriage is
> only meant for a man and woman. Non homophobic men
> wouldn't give a fuck if men married men. More gay
> men means more available women for us! I think
> Radiophile is this anti gay conservative freak
> show, because he really wants to be with a man
> sometimes, and sneaks off down to Dupont Circle on
> weekend nights after his wife goes to sleep!!!


I have never said such a thing. That was the other person who resorted to name calling when a logical argument was presented.

Who cares if the gays get married legally. It will not affect my life. And if you check my previous coments on the subject, you will have I said that the gays would probably keeps their yards neater than any hetero couple in the community.

And we have discussed this. There are far more young pretty women in Dupont than there are gays. Get out of Fairfax County and see the world.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 07/19/2008 04:15PM by Radiophile.

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Re: Why windfall taxes on big oil are stupid
Posted by: RadioRedneckPedophile ()
Date: July 19, 2008 04:56PM

Radiophile Wrote:
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> Not an Avid fan Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Avid Fan Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > No thanks homo, I try and shy away from Gay
> > > Bermuda Triangles. Is that where you met your
> > life
> > > partner?
> >
> >
> > LOL! It's funny how Radiophile portrays himself
> as
> > an ultra conservative who believes marriage is
> > only meant for a man and woman. Non homophobic
> men
> > wouldn't give a fuck if men married men. More
> gay
> > men means more available women for us! I think
> > Radiophile is this anti gay conservative freak
> > show, because he really wants to be with a man
> > sometimes, and sneaks off down to Dupont Circle
> on weekend nights after his wife goes to sleep!!!
>
>
> I have never said such a thing.

ORLY???

"I am a conservative who believes marriage is a between a man and a woman. God made Adam and Eve"- Radiophile


> Who cares if the gays get married legally. It will
> not affect my life. And if you check my previous
> coments on the subject, you will have I said that
> the gays would probably keeps their yards neater
> than any hetero couple in the community.


Once again, "I am a conservative who believes marriage is a between a man and a woman. God made Adam and Eve"-Radiophile


And we have discussed this. There are far more
> young pretty women in Dupont than there are gays.
> Get out of Fairfax County and see the world.


Do you really consider going down to Gaypont as seeing the world! Damn you are the typical ignorant American, so encapsulated, you consider going downtown as seeing the world. What about Walmart, is that on your cosmopolitan tour as well?
Fucking ignorant, homophobic, piece of white trash!

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Re: Why windfall taxes on big oil are stupid
Posted by: Radiophile ()
Date: July 19, 2008 10:54PM

Orly, YES. If you are going to quote me, quote me correctly. The point was not about gay marriage but polygamy in general.

I said "The point is John McCain is a bigomist, I am a conservative who believes marriage is a between a man and a woman. God made Adam and Eve, not Adam Eve and Betty." Check it yourself - here is the link http://www.fairfaxunderground.com/forum/read/40/106714/107897.html#msg-107897

And as far as Dupont beig Gaypont - I agree you should stay away. Those women there are youmg, energetic, ambitous. intelligent and pretty. They would have no use for a person like you.

And as far as going downtown is seeing the world, baby steps for you is all I was suggesting.

So what is with you and homos? The lady {or you in this instance} doth protest too much, methinks. Skakespeare quoted correctly.



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Re: Why windfall taxes on big oil are stupid
Posted by: Radiofag ()
Date: July 20, 2008 05:04AM

Radiophile Wrote:
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> Orly, YES. If you are going to quote me, quote me
> correctly. The point was not about gay marriage
> but polygamy in general.
>
> I said "The point is John McCain is a bigomist, I
> am a conservative who believes marriage is a
> between a man and a woman. God made Adam and Eve,
> not Adam Eve and Betty." Check it yourself - here
> is the link
> http://www.fairfaxunderground.com/forum/read/40/10
> 6714/107897.html#msg-107897
>
> And as far as Dupont beig Gaypont - I agree you
> should stay away. Those women there are youmg,
> energetic, ambitous. intelligent and pretty. They
> would have no use for a person like you.
>
> And as far as going downtown is seeing the world,
> baby steps for you is all I was suggesting.
>
> So what is with you and homos? The lady {or you in
> this instance} doth protest too much, methinks.
> Skakespeare quoted correctly.


You're still a sanctimonious holier than thou closet homo!

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